politicsnation. tonight's lead, unfinished business. ♪ ♪ ♪ right now, some unfinished business is heaven over washington as a drones for thanksgiving. congress haven't passed a short term government funding bill, just days before last night's deadline, a version the shutdown. but leaving president biden's request for emergency aid to israel unfulfilled. six weeks into its war against hamas. the president firing back in a washington post editorial late this afternoon. meanwhile, even republicans appear to be losing patience with alabama gop senator tommy tuberville's blockade of hundreds of top ranking military nominees. some submitting that may actually join democrats to confirm the picks in one swoop, ahead of the christmas break. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand joined us tonight, with her views on things from the senate armed services committee. that's in just a minute. and later, the family of dexter wade is preparing to give him a proper funeral, almost nine months after he was struck by a police of a search car and buried without notice in an unmarked grave with his identification still on him. i'll be in jackson, mississippi on monday to deliver wades eulogy ahead of the national action network civil trips -- civil rights attorney representing the wade family, ben crump, joins me later as a cold for a federal investigation growth letter. joining me now is senator kirsten gillibrand, democrat of new york. my good senator, my friend. let me go right to it. first of all, always great to have you with us. and i want to start at six weeks into israel hamas war and the emergency aid package to israel that has yet to pass congress. not even dealing with the casualties on the other side. even after the senate has passed the house stop kept spending bill this week before adjourning for thanksgiving. house republicans want to separate israel aid from ukraine. late this afternoon, the washington post published an op-ed from president biden explicitly lincoln pete wars and israel and ukraine, occupant that u.s. must lead in the fight to preserve democracy. what's been done to address this pressing, pressing issue right now? >> our goal right now is to make sure that ukraine has the aid they need to defend itself, and it's real has the eight it needs to defend itself from hamas. these are hugely important priorities for a national security and long term well-being of the enough states, both israel and ukraine our staunch allies of the united states. ukraine's trying to push back russia and russia cannot win that war. that will destabilize the entire world order if they do. and israel needs support because it has, potentially, three fronts. they have hamas running terrorist missions into israel. they have decapitated children. they have taken hostages of children and older people. they're unwilling to negotiate and bring the hostages home. and so we have to make sure they can defeat terrorism within their borders. and it's hard. defeating terrorism is hard. we are going to work with them to help them do what they can to defeat hamas and protect as many innocent palestinians as possible. and to prevent the bloodshed hamas is closing by using people as human shields. >> i'm glad you said it. we are concerned. you know, i came out early against what happened in israel but also don't want to say the same and gaza. we want to deal with what is, in my opinion, egregious on either side. whether your palestinian or israeli, i should say. we have seen a surge of antisemitic and islamophobia incidents since the war in israel began. this week, companies including ivm, apple, and comcast, the parent company of nbc universal, suspended advertising on elon musk's x platform, after studies found their ads were being placed next to content or hitler and the nazis. you've spoken about the need for more social media regulation. what should be done in your view? >> i just want to share your concern in the growing violence across this country. the rising antisemitism on college campuses as well. a lot of jewish students feel attacked, marginalized, and unable to protect themselves. we have seen a rise and anti islamic hate for years, especially during the trump administration. and that continued. >> he had the muslim ban. >> with had the muslim ban, that child murdered. so you've seen the rise in violence over a long period of time. but really, acutely right now there is enormously intense antisemitism on college campuses and communities. we're also seeing antisemitic attacks worldwide. we're seeing swastikas placed on flags, on buildings. it's very, very worrisome. and so one of the problems we have is that social media platforms are so easily used by our adversaries. they're used by china, but russia, by iran to spread hate and misinformation. a report which i have not had verified yet, but i've seen reporting that shows up to 70% of the traffic on social media, particularly tiktok, instagram, our being fed by our adversaries. and it's misinforming the national narrative about lots at stake and what's happening. and we should all be gravely concerned. we need oversight and accountability of these platforms. i have legislation to create a data protection agency, to put a definition of what a prophecy harm's, and give this agency the authority to make sure that platforms aren't using your personal information to use against children, who are going down rabbit holes and becoming mick or heaven challenges with their self esteem or young men go up to rabbit holes to become shooters and these extraordinarily high increase in gun crimes. this is real and these social media platforms have to be held accountable. and yes, they always say, we are not in charge of the content. you know what? if your platforms being used to harm kids or to misinform our nation, on an issue as important as how we fight against hamas and terrorism and how we protect innocent israelis and innocent palestinians, that's a problem. so they do need to be brought to bear and we should be having hearings and we should actually be passing legislation to protect our children. >> you sit on these an armed services committee, we are frustration is building over alabama senator tommy tuberville's refusal to confirm hundreds, literally hundreds, ofigh-ranking military nominees. some senate republicans saying that may break ranks and vote with democrats to bring those nominations to the floor and one bogey call before christmas. tuberville doesn't think it will happen. do you, senator? >> i'm hopeful. we know have republicans taking a leadership stand on this issue. both senator joni ernst, senator dan sullivan, both are on the armed services committee and have seen in realtime how this has harmed our military readiness. when you can't replace commanders all across the globe, sit for retirement or set to take on another command, you aren't able to maintain that chain of command and military greatness for conflicts across the globe. it's very destabilizing for our national security, especially when i have two wars going on that we have direct and forests. and we cannot turn up a lot of to what's happening around the globe. so they were trying to hold senator tomorrow accountable. we have tried to call for unanimous consent of these nominations over and over again, through the wee hours of the night, many of my colleagues have done it. hopefully they'll reach a resolution. eight or we have a rules change that says you cannot hold up nominations in this way, or some other mechanism to allow all these nominations to go through. >> before you go, an issue that both of a concerned about. three years ago, virginia became the 38th andinal state getting to ratify the equal rights amendment, establishment that equality of rights under the lookout based not on the basis of sex. despite meeting the requirements, they ar a is yet to be officially recognized and ratified as the 28th amendment to the u.s. constitution. tell us about your joint resolution with missouri congresswoman cori bush to change that immediately. we are out of time, but i have to ask about. >> we have done the two things you have to pass a two thirds were defecation and all the states and three quarters of the house and senate. they've both been done. well the constitution requires no is the archivists sign and publish it. during the trump administration, right after 2020, when virginia was the lost state to ratify, they issued an office of legal counsels memorandum saying, no, you can't do it. there is a timeline. in the preface and material before the law which, as any lawyer knows, preamble's -- profit route language, it's not just positive. it doesn't count. and in fact, the law that was ratified all the states didn't have the timeline and. it so that office of legal counsel memo should be withdrawn by the biden white house. they should issue a new memorandum of their office of legal counsel and the president should direct the archivist to shine and publish it. with so this bible the requirements. it doesn't matter how long it takes. it's not even conferences purview to put a time limit on it. that not provided by article five in the competition. so we are ready to go. and michael on the president. michael on the archivist. sign and publish and will have an equal rights amendment. which has been successfully used in red states already to restore republican freedoms, restore bodily autonomy, and restore a quote army -- autonomy and the states. >> i know as though that was it. but i need to ask you one more question. this week, your state's governor kathy hochul signed clean slate legislation, select the criminal records of new yorkers have served your time for less serious crimes and are staying above. trouble yes that, that you called for the defector reclassify marijuana as a schedule three substance. move that wi reduce the number of drug related convictions that is disproportionately target communities of color. tilt a little about's efforts to reform our justice system, making it more fair without sacrificing public safety. >> on the cannabis legislation, we are using cannabis all across the country for medical use, now. it's one of the best drugs you can take for ptsd, for koepka, for people undergoing cancer treatments. for anxiety. and if it's a schedule three drug, it allows drug companies to research it, study it, to create pills, create drugs, to actually do the work that we want drug companies to be doing to make sure this is available for medical use and is regulated properly. it also allows all businesses we created in new york to not be taxed at a higher rate. there are text absolutely because it's a schedule one substances still. the fact it's schedule one means it also can't be offered to veterans at the va's because it's a federal crime. it considered and illicit drug. so we need to de-schedule it entirely, which is my first choice. because it should be entirely available to everyone for all uses. but if the president isn't ready to do, that he should at least direct his dea to schedule it as three, where it should be. that's where other medicines are scheduled at. that the simple answer. it's going to address the businesses struggling in new york, and it's going to begin to address the -- would need a safe banking act -- and when it exits them to the markets. if we do those things, we would have your play for our businesses in new york who are selling cannabis and her trying to go up against illicit businesses. it's hard. the other issue that, lull our governor just signed, it's a very thoughtful law. it is, is if you've done your time and you stay clean for, hears that you deserve to be able to get an apartment. that you should be able to hold a job. be eligible for a job. and we know, that if you're working you are not likely to be a recidivist. so if you want to make our communities safer, and mentor criminals don't commit another crime, make sure they can get a job. make sure they can get housing. >> we'll have to leave it there. thank you, new york senator kirsten gillibrand. let's continue our discussion of criminal justice, that lawyer michael the attorney general for black america. ben crump, you just heard senator gillibrand talk about clean slate laws and some long overdue changes of marijuana regulations. what kind of reforms would these have on inequities you see every day in our justice system? >> reverend al, if we can get that law passed and states across america, especially states like florida, where you and i had to go thoughtful and 81 year old black woman who was convicted felon, who they came and arrested at 3:00 in the morning because she had exercised her constitutional right to vote. it's almost as if once you have this brand, this solid letter of being a convicted felon, this disproportionately affects communities of color. it's almost as if they were trying to treat you like a second class citizen. so i applaud governor hochul and the state of new york have said we see the best in you. we won't keep dwelling on when you made your worst mistake. and that is what we need to do, all over america. >> attorney crump, this week, independent autopsy was conducted for dexter wade, the black man who was struck and killed by an off-duty jackson, mississippi police officer. and was buried without his family's knowledge. the autopsy found, and you are behind this, and you have been on the show with us. the autopsy found wade had completely run over, it was completely run over by a vehicle. his left leg had been amputated and he had identifying items and his pocket at the time of death. and my capacity as president of the national action network, i'll be delivering the eulogy for dexter on monday in mississippi, a lot with you and the call for justice. what are your thoughts about this latest development and the case? i remember, we were told he had a prescription of medicine in his pocket. now we find from the autopsy, he actually had state i.d., credit cards in his front pocket. >> reverend al, this underscores the fact that as miss bennison said when she came on your show, and she thank you profoundly for breaking attention to this. because for almost seven months, her son was missing, she was just by herself. saying, where is my son? what happened to him? and what we have found out now, we had to exhume him, and we have the contents of his clothes still in the bag they put in the whole, behind the jail. were they put unknown people. they have known from day one, they knew who he was. he had a state issued drivers permit. they had his address, where he lived with his mother. so if that wanted to notify her, they simply only had to look at the permit and go to the house, and say we regret to inform you but one of our officers killed your son. and in fact, ran him over. and he's dead. they didn't do that, reverend al sharpton. they dropped him in the back of the jail, and the paupers graveyard. 672, reverend al. that means there is 672 author on identified black people in jackson, mississippi. it's catching the attention of america. people are saying, one, what did you notify this young man's mother. is it because you had killed who were brought up? she was the person burning a wrongful death lawsuit. so it begs the question, was this a cover-up as miss bennison has said from day one and that's what we need you, reverend al, and that national action network and everyone to call on the federal department of justice. because without that, she does not believe she is going to get any justice or accountability. >> and they had no point and for the mother, even though that young man had i.d. on him and a policeman, off-duty, but a policeman was the driver of the car. that never informed that mother and the communities saying, because she had this lawsuit about her brother being killed by police, -- is that the reason -- we are going to deal with that -- also this week, the federal trial of brett hankinson. a former louisville, kentucky police tective hurricane bullets through breonna taylor's apartment during her fatal 2020 raid ended a mistrial. the jury could not reach a animus verdict on civil rights charges against him. federal charges. do you think the prosecutor said decide to return this case? >> i certainly hope so, the cars it would speak to the value of black women and american society. as we know, breonna taylor, huawei for four months just to get people to recognize her life mattered, to say her name. for nobody to be held accountable for this innocent black woman being killed in her own apartment, it begs the question, where can our children be safe? not even and the sanctity of her own apartment. but christine court, hit of the civil rights department and this department of justice under the biden administration has done more to fight for social justice than any other administration that i have ever known. and if there would be a second prosecution, to talk about justice and accountability for breonna taylor, it will be done by this administration. and i have to say this, mentor. the fact that you have a black person on that jury. that excessive fights how important it is to serve on jury duty. i mean, if that young male would not have been there, i don't know if we would have been a hung jury. it might have been an outright acquittal. and that's why we have got to keep preaching and saying, when you get that jury notice, you might be the juror for trayvon martin. you might be the juror four michael brown, for george floyd, for breonna taylor -- and so many others. we've got to encourage people and communities of color to serve on jury duty. >> they must serve on jury duty and that must register to vote at a can even get a jury notice. that's among the things we must keep pushing. attorney general of black america, benjamin crump. were both on our way to mississippi and thanks for coming on the show tonight. and this week's gotcha, i have an urgent warning for republicans. time is running out for avoiding a makeup meltdown. but first my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. >> good afternoon. we start with patients and medical staff leaving the al-shifa hospital in gaza today. there have been conflict reports from health officials and the israeli defense force regarding an evacuation order. the idf denied it tried to first patients and medical staff to evacuate. there does authorities, meanwhile, saying the death toll in the first 12,000. more than 1.6 million people are displaced. there are 239 people still being held hostage in gaza, as well. and a spacex star ship launched in texas this morning. it right into trouble about eight minutes into the flight. the faa is investigating why operatives intentionally blew up the spacecraft over the ocean. space x called this a record launch and as success as a 4 to 3 raptor engines ignited and it raged by 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>> i think the most buttons on was trump's lack of participation, absence at this evangelical event on friday. right? he's blowing off a lot of campaign activities associated with 2024. and this was another one. i think it shows he recognizes to a degree, evangelicals are somewhat split on him. at least that's the message they have been standing. i'm looking at that yellow part of the graph, as you have shown, that shows desantis as a second choice. because you know he's chomping at the bit to try to gain traction on trump. doing so, but even getting governor kim reynolds endorsement, which we know trump blasted her in his speech today, for doing that. and i think we are going to continue to see desantis and nikki haley and the ramaswamy on the ground and iowa, trying to peel away support from trump. but the true reality is, trump still has a very commanding, strong lead in iowa and across the country. so it's a question of how much of an impact those splits among the evangelical voters will have. >> shermichael, tim scott dropped out of the presidential race this week. he's the latest republican to suspend the campaign from a primary field that started with a dozen candidates, now down to seven. what does thames got's candidacy ultimately say about whether a black man can run for the gop nomination in 2023 and basic says? full or are his failings mostly unique to him as a candidate, or was there some right system and play there as well? >> i think it was unique to him as a candidate. i think with only had one black person ever ascend to the presidency, and that was barack obama who happens to be a democrat. i think one can clearly make the argument, both political parties perhaps need to do more in terms of trying to elevate or -- i shouldn't say. try to help an african american to the nomination for both parties. with that said, i don't think if it's tim scott or it's mike pence, nikki haley, ramaswamy, ron desantis. none of those individuals will become the nominee of the republican party. it's going to be donald trump, whether people like it or not. or whether donald trump wins the iowa caucus, i think that matters. in 2016, he didn't. when ted cruz. where is ted cruz? he's still in the united states senate. i think we're going to see a rematch between president biden and donald trump, and the american people are going to have to decide, do they want? do they want to give for additional years to the current president or do they want to give the former president second opportunity? i think that's ultimately going to come down to margins. it's going to be very close and i think it will be critical for both parties to really get up turnout. >> juanita, this week senator joe manchin says he absolutely is considering a presidential run. in an interview with make the price. however, biden advisers believe manchin ultimately won't run given his own comments about not wanting to be a spoiler. and his state opposition to donald trump. meantime, the no labels party, which could potentially nominate manchin, reportedly considered a 100 dollar donation requirement just to vote at their convention. although they now say, they won't go through with the plan. if a third party candidate something democrats need to be worried about, juanita? >> absolutely. shermichael just, said 2024 will be decided at the margins. and so, absolutely a third party candidate would have an impact. and if joe manchin claims he doesn't want to be a spoiler, to that, i say, prove it. stop playing games. step aside. because we know the impact of a third party candidate. here's the thing, though, right i doubt he's not going to stop playing because she plans to continue this type of chatter all the way through super tuesday, according to an interview with kristen volker. and so i think that is something that i think that biden administration and of us are looking, at the biden campaign is looking at as, okay, visibility might not be viable. he's got to sit on this until super tuesday. >> shermichael, let's turn to the batt over donald trump's alleged ability to run for president next year. a group of voters filed a legal challenge in colorado, they sit there appealing that verdict after last night. a judge rejected an effort to disqualify the former president from the states appellate based on the 14th amendment ban on insurrectionists running fo public office. this comes as speaker johnson dumped all of the january 6th videos on to the antenna, yesterday. why do republicans want to keep litigating january 6th when it would seem to hurt them politically to remind to the public, briefly and for that for me. >> i'll say what the governor of georgia, brian can't, has continued to say all year long. any person who's focused on the past will more than likely lose. voters want to know how you will address the problems of today. the 14th amendment has only been applied twice since 1919. two states -- have also filed. i'm not surprised this lawsuit didn't pass. and if it does go to the supreme court, i'm almost certain a conservative lenient court will not rule in favor of the plaintiffs. >> all right, juanita tolliver, shermichael singleton. thank you both for being on. coming up. black services service members. from the red tiles in buffalo soldiers were forced to fight on two fronts. war of road and racism at home. after the break, i'm speaking with one of these brave men about keeping his legacy alive. you'll want to watch this. you'll want to watch this. about what comes next in life. for her. i may not be in perfect health, but i want to stay in my home, where my family visits often and where my memories are. i can do it with help from a prep cook, wardrobe assistant and stylist, someone to help me live right at home. life's good. when you have a plan. ♪ ♪ lowering bad cholesterol can be hard, even with a statin. diets and exercise add to the struggle. today, it's possible to go from struggle to cholesterol success with leqvio. with a statin, leqvio is proven to lower bad cholesterol by 50% and keep it low with 2 doses a year. common side effects were injection site reaction, joint pain, and chest cold. ask your doctor about twice-yearly leqvio. lower. longer. leqvio® have you ever thought of getting a walk-in tub for you or someone you love? 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>> my life, growing up, i grew up originally in harlem. from harlem i moved to queens. that's where i stayed, in queens, until i was drafted into the army. my life was like every other black life was. we were told where we could live, where we couldn't live. where we could, eight where we couldn't eat. all that kind of stuff. that's about the way it was. >> now, the 92nd infantry division was the only black infantry unit to seek combat in world war ii. use your action in the italian camp. and what was your most memorable experience in or out of combat while you are overseas? >> okay, i had a lieutenant who, no matter what i suggested to him, he would always say okay. he hit a bad habit. one particular time, that last time, it was 1945, early may. it was a medic. weyburn in the mountains. walking into a mountain village. the lieutenant told the villagers, they would not be allowed to go any place from their village and to remain in the village. they didn't like that. tight said that were hungry, they needed to go to, tete needed to buy food -- three times, he told them no, no, no, no, no. i sit lieutenant, what if i and two of our other soldiers, we escort that woman into town. the legion as usual, said, okay. in the morning, may and two other soldiers and let women handed out into town. i let that woman lead that way. it was their home, they knew the best way to get there. i had no idea that these women could walk us to the most dangerous road anyplace. the gunman controlled that road. they killed all of our soldiers trying to walk on that road. it was so bad, they gave that wrote a name. the hard stretch. on that road, you got died or badly injured or whatever. i knew the germans were looking down on us. there was nothing i could do. so maybe they'll say where she military and, that won't kill us. i kept walking. i woke to the town, we got to the town. they couldn't get enough food, there was no food there at all -- we turned around and hit it. back midway back, that germans dropped a motor in front of us. we stopped walking. they dropped more mortars. many motors fell. i realized that we're not trying to kill us. that we're trying to talk to us with these motors. so i listened. i believe, they said they saw us when we first put our foot on that stretch of ground. and they said, why are these soldiers committing suicide? so they dispatched a team to go to the village to find out why our those three soldiers walking with your people. and they were told, that they were humanitarians. they were astounded. >> wow. >> that changed everything. that changed everything in their life. they had planned to sought to the death, they said no more. no more. now we have hope. we have a possible future because of those three brave courageous guys that we almost killed. >> and you were one of them, one of those three. let me ask you this. after serving your country with distinction, you can pick to the u.s. and eventually went to work in that new york city present system, we were euros to the rank of assistant deputy warden at rikers island. i read that you are known for your efforts to trade prisoners with humanity. can't you speak about that? >> yes. when i joined corrections, i thought all these inmates needed was discipline. and i would give him discipline. it wasn't until i became program director, that warden made me program director, that everything for me changed. that warren gave me authority to do everything i wanted to do. any power he had, anything he could do, i could do. i found out what the inmates wanted most, i listened. if they wanted an inch, not go to the warden and say he wanted a foot. and he would say okay. he always said okay. and so he trusted me. he appreciated everything i did. and they did that by practicing self discipline. they were great. >> now, talking about self discipline, diane, let me go to you. some people say that i'm a pretty good dancer and my young guys and if it now. but i must say, i saw this video of your father dancing at a veterans recognition event aboard a yacht in tampa. he has not lost a step, 121 years old. what's the secret? >> you know, i wish i also -- i was trying to find a. i'll tell you. my mission is trying to keep up with him. what was going to some book losses and one day, he said to me, diane, i need a personal trainer. you are not the only person who should be go to the gym. so, he has a trainer. he does more than 25 pushups a day. >> 25 pushups a day! i work out every day. 25 pushups a day at 101? >> i don't know where he gets it from. but we are truly blessed. he's amazing. i'm just enjoying that ride. i'm here, still learning. >> i'm glad he shared his time with us. mr. roy caldwood, thank you for your service and diane royer, thank you for joining us so that as we go into this thanksgiving season we can thank god for men that served as country lycra father. thank you very much to the both of you. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. stay with us as a police administrator. i oversee approximately 20 people and my memory just has to be sharp. i always hear people say, you know, when you get older, you know, people lose memory. i didn't want to be that person. i decided to give prevagen a try. my memory became much sharper. i remembered more! i've been taking prevagen for four years now. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. my skin has been so much smoother so much more hydrated. it's olay! with olay hyaluronic body wash 95% of women had visibly-better skin. and my skin is so much more moisturized. see the difference with olay. the subway series is getting an upgrade. the new #33. the teriyaki blitz. with double cheese and teriyaki-marinated meat. it's like a perfect steak spiral in the double cheese coverage. if you say so, peyton. who knew the subway series could get even better? 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