but, did call it a sacred mission to do so. these new comments are coming, as we are seeing a whole lot unfold on the ground there as well, over the last 24 hours or so, including residents fleeing parts of southern gaza today, under a warning to do so from israel, as the idf strikes on the southern city of -- in announces what they call expanding operational activities. we're going to have a live report from jay gray in tel aviv, in just a moment. we want to start first though, with ambassador dennis roth, counselor at the washington institute for near east policy. msnbc foreign affairs analyst, he was the -- on the peace process in the clinton administration, and was instrumental in assisting israelis and palestinians to reach an interim agreement in 1995. ambassador, thanks for joining us on, this inflation. i have wanted to speak to you, ambassador, throughout this entire conflict. i'm so happy that you are joining us this hour. i want to talk first about this new op-ed out from the president. we know last weekend, prime minister benjamin netanyahu essentially said indefinitely, israel will control the security of gaza. the president now has a new op-ed, out in the washington post, that says the epa should have governing power over gaza. what do you make of this step being made by the president and his administration, to speak out about the future of gaza, and who will govern? >> well i think the president is focused on the reality that the israelis don't want to stay in gaza, and they don't want to stay in gaza, so someone has to be responsible for governing it. and there's a simple reality, the palestinian authority at this one has a hard enough time governing the west bank, it is highly discredited, it is very corrupt. there needs to be reform, and revitalization. and the president talks about ultimately, the epa being more responsible back in gaza. in a sense, i would underscore the word ultimately. in time, the p.a. should come back. they are not going to come back right, now they are not going to come back on the back of israeli attacks, that would completely discredit them. there does need to be some kind of intermitted ministration, so that when israel withdraws from gaza, you don't leave it like a rack. and that interministerial have to have an international mandate so that it has credibility, no one's going in at a point where hamas is still in control, or where hamas is in a position to resist. and so, israel will i think continue to act to ensure that gaza, hamas is weakened to the point where it is no longer in control of gaza, and it is not in a position where can can prevent others from coming in and managing it. i think the point of the palestinian authority coming back in time, is fully legitimate. and part of the reason being i, think part of the reason why the administration, the president was saying that the p.a. must be there, is that the arab states want to know that at some point, there will be a two-state outcome, and for there to be a two-state outcome, politically, the west bank and gaza have to be reunited. they have been divided since june of 2007, when hamas carried out a coup against fattah and the p.a.. so at some point, you bring back the p.a.. anyone who says you can bring the epa back now is kidding themselves, because they wouldn't come in even if they could. and secondly, they are not strong enough at this point. there needs to be thorough going reform. we have seen such reform before when -- was brought in in 2007. and, i think we can see that again. what's different i believe, is that arab states are much more open to helping to create that reform, and revitalization process of the palestinian authority in the west bank. seeing that as necessary, and really as a precursor for being at some point able to come back into gaza. >> what do you mean by international mandate? what does that look like? who leads, and who institutes it? >> excellent question. my preference would be to have a u.n. mandate. there is no way if the u.s. were to suggest a u.n. mandate for, the administration and peacekeeping presidents. and we have done that in other places -- after the cameras in cambodia, that's precisely what was done. but if the u.s. were to present to the security council, you have the security council, an initiative for a u.n. mandate, and a u.n. shaped administration, the russians would veto it. if the arab states or to present this as an initiative from them, the russians would not veto it. so what i would like to see is an international umbrella, some kind of u.n. mandate. i would like to see palestinian technocrats be the ones who have day today responsibility for the establishment of an administration in gaza, free of hamas. i'd like to see international forces, and they could be from the region as well like morocco, maybe kenya. i'd like to see a major attempt at reconstruction in gaza, tied to not only demilitarization, but primarily demilitarization. i think a country like canada, that has a lot of experience in post conflict situations could help manage that reconstruction process, and ensure that the materials go for that intended aims. i think there is a way to do this, i think there is a way to put together a very intensive act of diplomacy. but it also depends on israel i think succeeding to the point where hamas is weakened enough, where they can't resist anybody from the outside coming in and managing what amounts to a new administration. >> so if canada manages the reconstruction, who pays for it? >> i think you're going to see the gulf states. i think you're going to find the saudis, the emiratis, the countries who have provided so much material support to hamas, and hamas is so heavily responsible for what's happened in gaza. the countries ought to be prepared to help rebuild a gaza without hamas in control. given how much money they have given to hamas in the past, which has produced which is a very significant military infrastructure, which the israelis are going about right now in dismantling. >> prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been unwilling to accept a future of a two state solution up until this point, we know historically since he's been in power over the last two plus decades. what do you do with that? at first i think there is going to be a political reckoning for israel. you had the worst day in israel's history, on october 7th. and this was a strategic collapse, a colossal intelligence failure. the military was unprepared as well. the reality is there will be a reckoning within israel, as to responsibility. it will effect obviously the security and intelligence, but there will be a political upheaval as well. the political reality as we have seen today in, israel are likely to be the reality is we will see cisse, 6 to 9 months from now. i just think, even i would say with prime minister netanyahu, people forget that in the spring of 2000 and, nine he gave a speech at -- where he said he would accept a two state outcome, a palestinian state. he wanted it to be demilitarized. you know, it seems to me a, it will have to have the political reckoning in israel. and be, i would also say we've never really seen a systematic debate in israel, over what the relationship of the palestinians should be. that debate, i think is going to come, precisely because of what we have seen, what's happened in gaza the shock of october 7th. this is still a country that is suffering a trauma, from october 7th. we have 150,000 israelis who are not able to move back to their houses. so, this is not, we see everything going on in gaza, and it is a human catastrophe there. but there's a tendency to forget, we have 150,000 israelis who are not able to go back, and live in their homes. and they won't, until there is not only security, but a sense of security as well. >> ambassador dennis roth, thank you so much for talking to us, we appreciate it. >> when. >> all right, i want to get the latest on this news conference as well going on right now from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and other officials. -- live for us on the ground in tel aviv. j if you, will walk us through we have been hearing from? yeah and jasmine, it's interesting pulling off what we just heard from the ambassador about the politics here. prime minister netanyahu was pushed several times on the politics of what's happening, and if he feels like he should step down, or if he feels that there should be changes within his cabinet, and he refused to talk about it. he said that they were engaged in war right now, and that the time for those politics and the reckoning would come. but it wouldn't be at this point, they are focused on the ongoing war. he continued to say what he said for really the better part of the month now, that they are focused on three things, and three things in this order. eliminating hamas, finding and returning the hostages, and making sure that hamas is never a threat again. saying at one point that they are going to ni a late hamas. he did talk a bit about the hostages, the negotiations are ongoing, and he says any rumors that are out there about the number of people that are going to be released, any type of deal that may be in the works, are just that, rumors. but, that they continue to negotiate. and we have been told that those negotiations are going on continuously. and so, that is something that they continue to work on here. and he talked about having constant contact with the u.s., and how important the support of the u.s. is, as they continue to move forward. so, that is something that he has said repeatedly. it is something that he is counting on, as this now extends, and has a movement on the ground begins to translate as well. >> jay gray for, us thank you jay, appreciate it. coming up in just 60 seconds, an explosive end to elon musk's latest spacex launch, we will be right back. be right back. the subway series is getting an upgrade. the new #33. the teriyaki blitz. with double cheese and teriyaki-marinated meat. it's like a perfect steak spiral in the double cheese coverage. if you say so, peyton. who knew the subway series could get even better? 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and, why the second flight test it failed? >> yeah well, that is what we are hoping to learn. spacex is going to be conducting an investigation overseen by the faa to get to the bottom of this. but i will tell you that spacex is not calling this a failure, they are calling it a success, because this launch went even much better than the first one, which barely made it off of the ground, before they had issues, and they had to detonated. but we saw a similar situation we saw play out today. the rocket went up, it separated, so that part did get fixed. but ultimately, they lost contact with the starship, about ten minutes into the flight. and they believe that both the upper part of the starship and the lower part experienced a rapid, and scheduled disassembly. so basically, it exploded mid air. and that is the question that we are trying to get to the bottom of. but spacex has said that they are going to be looking at the data and the information, that they will then collect from this. and, that that will help to inform the future flights. and this is so important, because nasa wants to use this spacecraft as part of its 2025 moon missions. and that was certainly felt, the importance of this moment, even though it didn't go the way it did, by the folks who came out very early in the morning to see this actually take off. it was quite an experience with the ground rumbling, as that rocket launched into the air. i want to play a little bit about what the folks who sought here in person had to say. >> it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. it was amazing. >> what do you think? >> i like the explosion. >> so, starship is one of my favorite rock, it's because it's a rocket going to mars, and i think it's the future of space and everything. and so, i think if they can really get that, i feel like it will be cool. and they are launching a lot of starlinks, which are satellites elevate, and they can carry like two times more than the falcon can. >> future astronaut there, the last little boy that you heard from. but, an exciting day for spacex and for all of the folks here. but also, an important day, as they continue to work on this rocket. just to give you a sense, it is massive, it is nearly 400 feet high, the largest, most powerful rocket with some 39 engines on it, that all have to be working in sync for an order for this to work. and so no doubt, spacex will be working on, this and potentially scheduling a another launch to see if they can make it through that 90 minute flight. and this is going to be important, because right now these flights are -- but as i mentioned, the goal is to have astronauts on a flight, including the first woman astronaut slated for 2025. and so, it is a very big deal what is happening here, yasmin. >> priscilla thompson for us, thank you priscilla, appreciate it. still ahead, what is the biggest danger to the world in 2024? 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appreciated. so there were four new york republicans who did not vote to expel santos the first time. to now say they will, in fact vote to expel them. what are the other two saying? especially at least stefanik here, and the odds that in fact he will be expelled this time around? >> right so, we should also add that the -- also there is a fifth, and that would be george santos himself, who did not vote to oust him from congress. but the two that have said, committed publicly to voting to expel him are andrew -- who was on the ethics committee, so he has been holding his -- and then congresswoman nikole -- who basically says him committing to not running for reelection just doesn't cut it, you need to go, and he needs to go now. this is a bit of a one 80 from her, who previously was basically saying this will play itself out. at the same time as you mentioned, we have not heard from congresswoman elise tonic. i reach out to our team sometimes, she of course endorsed him. she of course also is the gop conference chair, so she has a lot of clout and influence on capitol hill within the republican caucus. she is not publicly commenting, at least not yet. i have not seen any of the reporters be able to get her on the record on this either. and the other one is congresswoman claudia tenney, who did put out a statement basically saying that he is undermining back the house, because of the conduct that is alleged in this report. but, not yet outright committing to getting rid of him through an expulsion vote, she wants him to just resign. so we will see if that dynamic changes, if he opts not to take that -- . >> if he were to be expelled, what would that do to republican house majority? they gained three, they had a three net gain from new york specifically. they have a five seat majority. what would happen if they lose this seat here? >> you look i mean, the pathway to control of the house was not secured through new york state in 2022, but it certainly, the road was paved for the house gop majority. and so, this is one of those districts, there are six in total across new york, that biden won in 2020, and a republican came in and won in 2022. this is a plus eight district for biden, it's become of plus a district for george santos in 2022. so, some republicans, perhaps they're just putting on a brave face, like -- suggesting we might be able to hold on to this. but, think of the dynamics of this seat. this will, it certainly leads to a political report for example, leaving it as a lean democrat right now -- . -- putting it as a toss-up. so there is a decent chance that this flips back into -- the which only heightens the -- slim majority they have a capital. and they've been struggling just to get rules and procedural votes through the house floor, let alone passing legislation. and you know the dynamics of this race, were there to be a special election, will only be intensified by the fact that people like congressman -- who lives not too far away, are going to be tagging the republicans as the party of george santos and marjorie taylor green, as he has been. and the elephant in the room, part of my plan, because he's a democrat, is thomas suozzi, the former congressman for that district. he is likely to be one of the candidates, if not the democratic candidate if there was a special election, he is the former congressman, their former county executive. so he has clout in that district, and certainly a lot of name recognition. >> kevin -- thank you kevin, appreciate it, we're going to be watching what happens here with george santos. coming up everybody, a donald trump shaped shadow looms over 2024. that's how the economist describes the threat they say the former president poses, if he becomes commander-in-chief again. and, tiktok is pulling content, after videos promoting osama bin laden's letter to america gain momentum and support on the platform. >> oh my god. >> i need you to stop what you are doing, and go read a 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medication? astrazeneca may be able to help. ask your doctor about breztri. welcome back. the economist gave a stark new warning this week, about what they believe to be thbiggest global danger in 2024. and that ier president donald trump. in his -- annual 2024 world ahead addition, they say no single person has ever eclipsed their analysis as much as donald trump eclipsed his 2024. they write this. the greatest threat mr. trump poses to his own country. having won back power because of his election denial in 2020, he would surely be affirmed if his gut feeling, but only losers allow themselves to be bound by the norms customs, and self sacrifice that make a nation. an pursuing his enemies, mr. trouble wage war on any institution that stands in his way, including the courts, and the doj. joining me now is a messy nbc national security and intelligence analyst, and former cia officer mark -- to talk more about this. mark, what do you make of this assertion, this prediction, if in fact the former president is reelected as president of the united states from the economist? >> well yasmin, it's really a remarkable piece from the economist, which is frankly one of the most reliable and respected policy magazines in the world. you know, i call it radically centrist. and so, this piece was not republican versus democrat, this was not endorsing biden. this, in essence, is a call from europe, and economists is published in london, a call for sanity. because donald trump is saying very clearly what he would do, which would be to pull the u.s. out of, nato to reduce aid to ukraine, to put forth a much more pro-russian foreign policy. and so the europeans are generally alarmed. and, so this is far before our next presidential election, but is pretty extraordinary that they put this out. and again, i think it is, it is to send a wake up call to american voters. >> i would argue though, that the folks are actually voting for former president donald trump, in a reelection bid in 2024, are likely not reading a publication like the economist. i want to read for you more from this piece here and get your take. knowing that america would abandon here, mr. putin would have an accent of to fight on in ukraine and, to pick up the former soviet countries such as moldova or the baltic states. without american pressure, israel is unlikely to generate an internal consensus or peace talks with the palestinians. calculating that mr. trump does not stand by his allies, japan and south korea could acquire nuclear weapons. and, he is surrounded by china hawks, who believe confrontation is the only way to preserve american dominance. come between a deal making president, and his warmongering officials, china could easily miscalculate over taiwan, with catastrophic consequences. mark? >> well right, and so one other notion that i think is, it is inherent in this piece is that. and actually, it was in the piece was that the first trump presidency, in terms of foreign policy, according to the economist, was actually not that good. they really fear for the second trump presidency, because you will not have those adults in the room, who would be a buffer to some of trump's worst impulses. and so, i think that is one of the great fears. you know, there is no more general like mattis and kelly. you know, there are no mark milley, there is no one who is going to say hold on a second, we can't do, that we have to remain in the accord. you know, we have to treat china as an adversary to deal with, not necessarily an enemy. and so, that's the real concern here. and let me just add one thing, yasmin. my old -- work intelligence. we actually have tremendous liaison relationships. these are intelligence relationship with the british, the, french the germans and others. and i worry that a second trump administration, which would again have this pro-russian foreign policy, that they are going to restrict intelligence sharing. which again, just puts america at risk. >> you also can't forget what the former president did and said about, as he put it, his intelligence agencies, when he was president of the united states. i will say, i believe it was just in the last week or so in which a republican congressman attacked fbi director chris wray, and looked at him and said you bust in members of the fbi, to january 6th to look at like insurrectionists, and rally goers, and protesters. and we know the former president has stood up and called out, as he put, it his intelligence agencies, for not doing the right thing, asieh sought. what would that look like in, a trump presidency to point? oh >> well look you know, when i entered -- duty in the cia in 1993, i swore an oath to the constitution, certainly not to an individual. and what trump and again, the campaign is saying is that they want to institute loyalty tests. you know, this is more akin to what a dictator asks, for rather than a democracy with a true constitution. so, i think you will have national security professionals really fearing him, in terms of objectivity. what do they tell the, president what to do they not? and i think you will see some serious resignations under a trump team. because, again loyalty tests is something that you would expect in a third world dictatorship, certainly not in the united states. >> mark, i want you to stay with, because i know you have some strong feelings about the next story, that we are about to talk about. so, after an angry response, tiktok is pulling content related to a 2002 letter from osama bin laden, in the wake of the israel-hamas war. those sympathetic to palestinians have been drawn to the infamous terrorist claim, that u.s. support for israel was justification for the 9/11 tax. and -- has more on this controversy. >> tiktok pulling content off of its platform, after videos promoting osama bin laden's letter to america started gaining momentum. >> this morning i read letter to america. >> the letter, written in 2002, one year after 9/11 by the al-qaeda leader, justifies one of the worst terrorist attacks in the u.s., that left nearly 3000 dead. >> i just. read >> a letter to. america >> go read. it >> users, at times reading the letter. while others, noting how the letter resonated with them. in particular, portions criticizing u.s. support for israel, accusing americans of financing oppression of the palestinians. >> the tax dollars are given to israel, to help them kill other people in palestine. >> the videos adding to an already contentious and heated debate online, over the israel hamas conflict. >> i literally read it last night. >> everything he said was valid. >> this man didn't care about us. >> all it took was reading one pair up in the letter, that mentions palestine. >> -- a video montage of these tiktok 's, some which garnered millions of views, getting the attention of the social media platform. today, publishing a statement on x, formerly known as twitter. writing that the content promoting this letter clearly violates our rules on supporting any form of terrorism. we are proactively, and aggressively removing this content. and, investigating how it gone on to our platform. >> the guardian that originally published a transcript of the letter in 2002, has now pulled the text from their site, saying the letter has quote, been lot widely shared on social media, without the full context. >> i can't believe i have to say this, but you all need to stop schilling for osama bin laden's letter for america. >> u.s. lawmakers, now using these videos as reasons to renew calls to ban the chinese owned app. the concern, reaching the white house. releasing a statement on the alarming trend, saying in part, quote, there is never a justification for spreading the repugnant, evil, and antisemitic lies that the leader of al-qaeda issued, just after committing the worst terrorist attack in american history. no one should ever insult 2000 and 907 american families, still mourning loved ones, by associating themselves with the vile words of osama bin laden. >> while tiktok has taken down bin laden's letter to america, that may not end the controversy, over stop social media users from accessing other platforms, to share the letter. >> i'm mark -- back with me. you had a pretty strong reaction, i've got to say, as did i. but you, for a better reason, because you are part of the team that actually went after bin laden, when hearing about how this was going viral on tiktok. talk to me about that. >> well look, first of all there are people who did far much more than i did, in terms of the fight against al-qaeda. you know, this was certainly an effort that lasted ten years. you know, my role in counterterrorism, and i was on the joint terrorism task force at newark in 9/11, and that when then to afghanistan earlier to, and i went back to afghanistan for a year of deployments, you know in 2011 and 2012. and so, this whole tiktok issue was appalling to me, because having gone face to face with al-qaeda members, it was pretty clear to me that any al-qaeda member who would come to that it's and kill every man woman and child in america, that they could find. and so, the idea that somehow bin laden is turning into the new shape of iran for generation z, is something almost beyond the pale. yasmin, i think back to a famous ap photo called the fallen man, and that was from a photograph of someone jumping from the north tower. and it is chilling. and in fact, at first it wasn't even out all that much. it became famous later on. but the idea that somehow, bin laden should be celebrated is something that it puts it into question, what are we doing with our education system? how is this actually happening. and i guess you have to go back to the notion that it's been a long time since 9/11, and we have to just go with the idea of never forgetting, and keep educating the youth. because the idea that this went viral on tiktok, it is truly extraordinary. >> it's incredible to me also, thinking about it in a way that many of these uses of tiktok that are likely engaged, and making this letter essentially go viral, and having the reaction that they're having, we're not even necessarily born when 9/11 happened. and or, were one, two maybe three years old. you can certainly criticize u.s. policy and decisions that are made overseas, and the funding of israel, and the way in which the president has continued to support, israel and or what has been said about the palestinians. but using the justification of a letter by osama bin laden, who killed almost 3000 americans in the worst attack in this nation's history, is really unbelievable. >> there is an enormous difference, between worrying and being concerned about the civilian casualties in gaza, and then jumping all the way to promoting osama bin laden, my goodness. i mean, in one sense you actually discredit any kind of debate on what's happening in israel, and the way israel has carried out its counterterrorism campaign. and, so if people start just all of the sudden using bin laden as the hero, that invalidates anything that they present, and it ends up being actually violently counterproductive. >> let me ask you this real quick mark. do you think the polling of the letter was the right thing to do? or do you think people should use this letter as part of the education and understanding how evil minds like osama bin laden actually think? >> yasmin, that's a great question. i actually have no problem if the letter was taught in universities. i mean, that is part of history. we shouldn't restrict that. but you have to put it into context. and, so the problem with tiktok is, this is how everybody in this generation is getting their news. and they are not getting them, apparently in a university classroom. they should learn about what al-qaeda was about, including all of the doctrines. you know, that is that we actually learn about what happened in history. but the problem is tiktok is kind of the fundamental source foreign generation z. my own kids, my daughters 23, she gets all of her information from tiktok. and, i think that is something where our society and our education system has certainly failed. >> mark -- your daughter is lucky to have you in the house though. thank, you appreciate it. after the break everybody, the israeli military saying it is expanding its operation in gaza, as prime minister netanyahu blames hamas for not being able to, quote, minimize civilian casualties. congresswoman and veteran and armed service chairman member chrissy who and joins me with her thoughts on the humanitarian crisis in gaza. and, if the president is doing enough. that's coming up next. >> next. >> help prevent covid-19 from breaking your momentum. you may have already been vaccinated against the flu, but don't forget this season's updated covid-19 shot too. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're building a better postal service. for more on-time deliveries. and easier, affordable ways 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revitalized palestinian authority, as we all worked hard toward a two-state solution. join me now is democratic representative -- of pennsylvania. she is a member of the house armed services committee to talk more about this. congresswoman, thanks for joining us on this, appreciate it. if you would, give me your reaction. i'm not sure if you've had a chance to read this op-ed, i think it was just released in the last hour or so, to what the president here is proposing about a post war gaza. really a direct contrast to what we have heard from prime minister benjamin netanyahu, when it comes to the day after. >> so, thank you for having me. and i did have the chance to read what is a rather long opinion piece, and i would encourage people to read it. what struck me with the vision that president biden is outlining for all of us. first of all, the connectivity that he makes, the connection that he makes with ukraine and with israel, and with palestine. and second of all, the vision that he has, which is a place where we can shed the hate, and release the sort of tension that exist between islamophobia and antisemitism, and all of the phobias and isms that we have, and work really hard towards a difference, to something that looks different of what we are seeing right now, which is a hate filled world. and so, i think it is a really good opinion piece, or op-ed, and i would very much encourage people to see the vision that president biden is outlining. he has done a terrific job over the last, over his administration in unifying allies and non-allies alike, and trying to see this vision. and i hope that people have a chance to read it. >> what did you make of the president, essentially putting russian president vladimir putin on the same plane, comparing him to hamas? >> so you know, i honestly feel like these are not dissimilar threats. back in my past, my father was actually born in what is now ukraine, and it is not a coincidence that he left ukraine after world war ii, as a survivor of the holocaust, and now evil exists still in the ukrainian area, and also in israel. and frankly also, in the indo-pacific as well, potentially. so, i don't think i would go as far as to say that putin is a terrorist, but i wouldn't say that he is undermining democracies and freewill across the world, much the same as hamas is. >> well, and he is certainly benefiting from the israel hamas war right now, as he sits back and continues his incursion into ukraine, with more attention obviously on the israel-hamas war, and what is happening with the humanitarian crisis in gaza. i want to talk about that for a moment, because you cosigned a letter, i should say, with fellow congressional veterans -- seth moulton as well, to secretary of state tony blinken saying in part this. as the conflict in gaza continues to take shape, it is imperative that the united states, and your department, work to uphold our commitment to preventing the humanitarian situation from deteriorating farther. this was signed a month ago, what is your view, your position on the humanitarian crisis that is unfolding in gaza? and, what the united states is or is not doing enough to help? >> so what my fellow veterans and i were trying to communicate through that letter, and still are trying to communicate is, we learned a lot of really hard lessons during the 20 years of the war on terror, lessons that i hope israel is taking advantage of, and listening and learning from. we really need to make sure that we as the united states are asking of israel, if they are fighting a film similar battle as we follow the last 20 years, to really adhere to the democratic principles, and also to the international war law, to make sure that they are not creating, frankly more terrorists than they are annihilating. >> i want to talk about aid to israel as well. obviously with this continuing resolution that was recently passed by the new speaker of the house, that did not include aid to ukraine and or aid to israel either. how imperative do you think it is to get both this aid passed? and, when do you think it will happen? >> very imperative. and one of the reasons why i voted no against that particular piece of legislation, going back all of the way to the way we started this conversation, with the connection between ukraine and israel. i very much believe that ukraine is connected to israel, as it is to connected to taiwan, as it is connected to southern border security. we need to see an aid package, or a package delivered that addresses all of those issues. i hope that when we come back to congress after the thanksgiving break, that we have the opportunity to get to this, and to get serious about the connectivity between all these. i believe it will probably come out in the senate first, and i hope to have the opportunity to vote on it in the house as well. >> representative chrissy julián, thank you, appreciate it. the carter center everybody, announcing that 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this year. migrant families, volunteers, they're going to make pies to deliver to those dealing with homelessness in the big apple. i want to bring in nbc -- 's from new york city to tell us all about it. if you will george, walk us through what's happening here. >> i asked man. it was a pretty sweet assignment, not so much because of the pie -- but really because of what was happening in this room. right now, it is empty, that is because these volunteers, these migrant families are actually out delivering these pies to those that are unhoused here in the city, including that influx of migrants that we know are here in new york city. in this year, alone hundred 20,000 migrants were out in the city, by new york city assessment, about 60,000 are still in shelters right now. so what was happening here, today they are baking the, spies really transcending the meaning of thanksgiving, breaking bread and all around tables with families from, really all over the globe, to make these pies, so that they can distribute them. migrants feeding migrants, during this time of year. i had a brief conversation with 17-year-old who is from afghanistan, she is here with her family. she has never had thanksgiving before, she is never even had a pipe force, so this was her opportunity to do both of those things. i want you to listen to what she said about what this, day this upcoming holiday means to her and her family. >> i feel that i am really -- because i was the luckiest person -- afghan woman, who had the opportunity to -- in all follow my dreams. i know that this opportunity cannot be given to everyone. so it. and i have seen how it -- in the situation -- but for me right now, i have more opportunities. >> i'm yasmin, that's just one of the many stories i heard. i spoke to a father who was front from columbia, here they came to the united states seeking asylum. they fled prosecution, persecution excuse me, in their native columbia. and again, they are just doing, this and they want to continue doing it year after year, many of the people who are part of project russo, some of them probably end up working here to benefit other families going through similar, either be homeless or just arriving here trying to seek asylum. and it is really just a beautiful thing that they are doing. again here, as we approach the thanksgiving holiday, yasmin. >> what are many of these migrants hoping for in this thanksgiving holiday, seeing that is not part of their own traditions, but being here in the united states now to celebrate it? >> yeah, many of them are so thankful that they were able to get their families out of harm's way. as you, know some of these families go through such trials in, tribulations, others making friends here in the city, seeing their children flourish, making friends at new schools, opportunities, job opportunities that they otherwise wouldn't have had. yeah, a lot to be thankful for and the community here, obviously very -- they are here, helping them, helping themselves as well, yasmin. >> george -- thank you for us. george, -- that wraps up for me, everybody i'm yasmin vossoughian, i'll be back in the chair tomorrow at two pm eastern. simone starts right now.