we discussed the need for hem to be incredibly careful. a startling clash on capitol hill. protesters calling for a cease-fire clashing with capitol police outside the dnc headquarters. some democratic congressional leaders trapped inside for a while. the u.s. and china lowering the temperature, agreeing to resume military contacts. china promising to begin combating fentanyl production. >> look, do i trust -- trust but verify is an old saying. that's where i am. george santos announcing he will not seek re-election after the house ethics committee releases a report unanimously finding santos violated federal criminal laws and referring its findings to the justice department. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the idf now telling nbc news that israel's special forces are still inside gaza's al-shifa hospital searching every floor of every building as hundreds of patients and medical staff remain in the complex while the u.n. negotiates for a full medical evacuation. >> we still have grave concerns for the patients and the staff in the hospital. there are a lot of security concerns. there are a lot of logistics constraints. our options are rather limited. but we hope to have better news in the next 24 hours. >> there are conflicting versions of what is happening inside. the hamas-run gaza health ministry releasing a video of what it says is smoke pouring into the icu as doctors wheeled patients to safety. nbc news is unable to independently confirm that video or one released by the idf showing guns, grenades and computers israel says it found inside. we showed that to you on a split screen. >> there are cartridges and ammo. grenades in here, uniforms. it was hidden secretly behind the mri machine. when our troops opened this closet here, which is in the main part of the clinic, this is what they found. these weapons have absolutely no business being inside a hospital. standard ak-47. inside the hospital, hidden in a secluded area. look at this door here. blast-proof door, part of the clinic. >> after a week of not saying this, president biden now says that u.s. intelligence stands by what israel says about al-shifa and is accusing hamas of war crimes by having terrorists under the hospital. >> the first war crimes being committed by hamas by having their headquarters, their military hidden under a hospital. that's a fact. that's what's happened. israel did not go in with a large number of troops, did not raid. let me be precise. we discussed the need for them to be incredibly careful. >> with this shift in the u.s. position, we start with nbc's raf sanchez in tel aviv and "new york times" diplomatic correspondent michael crowley. raf, what is the latest? there are claims by the idf about our hospitals we have not confirmed and we are getting strong denials, including the pediatric hospital. >> reporter: that's right. israeli commandos going floor by floor inside the al-shifa hospital, continuing operations for a second day there. they say they are looking for evidence of hamas' presence inside of the hospital. it's very difficult for us at this point to confirm exactly what is going on, because all telecommunications in gaza are down at this point. the two big palestinian phone companies say they have simply run out of fuel. they cannot keep the services up. all week, we have been able to call doctors, surgeons at al-shifa hospital. now it's ominous silence coming from the largest medical facility inside of gaza. the israeli military is aware that they are facing a major test of credibility at this point. israel has been telling the world for weeks and the u.s. has been confirming that hamas is operating out of this medical facility. when israel showed the world its evidence yesterday, it was pretty sparse. it was a number of assault rifles, some ammunition, some grenades, literature from hamas. a lot of people are asking whether that is enough to justify a military operation inside of a hospital the size of al-shifa. israel is saying, hamas knew we were coming. we were closing in on the hospital for weeks. we were giving people time to leave. it's no surprise that they were able to hide most of the evidence. what israel has not yet shown the world is any proof of this tunnel system or this command center underneath the hospital. they say it's going to take them days, maybe weeks to search what is a pretty big campus. when they do find the tunnels, they say it will take time to clear them, to drive out hamas fighters, to clear away booby traps. humanitarian organizations, human rights groups all around the world are looking very, very closely at what is happening at al-shifa. they are asking tough questions about whether the military gains israel says it's making by taking over the facility outweigh the enormous humanitarian cost. >> such a complicated situation. raf, thanks for starting us off. michael, let's talk about this. when i interview israeli officials, they say they have given them plenty of warning. i talked to palestinians who say, we were called. where are these people supposed to go? the so-called escape routes don't necessarily work. the corridors are interrupted. there was another firing in the south, which is supposedly a safe zone. there's no way out. >> you are right. it's a problem from hell. the hospital is a microcosm of the larger problem the israelis say they face, which is that they have an enemy that has attacked them, which is embedded and marbled into the population of the very densely populated city. there's no way to wipe out hamas leaders and fighters without killing civilians around them. now, there are people who might argue that the cost is too high and that israel has to find other ways to do this, not to do a major military operation. ask the world to apply diplomatic pressure. who knows what? the israelis will say none of that has worked. now we zoom in on the hospital. we see this all in microcosm. israelis are saying, this is impossible. hamas put us in this impossible position by operating out of a hospital. we have to disrupt and dislocate and possibly kill innocent people to get in there. the palestinians in gaza are saying, this is an outrageous violation of international law. i think it will be helpful to see -- give the israelis more time, let's see what they come up with. my understanding of the main video going around is that that was a radiology building that was one small part of a larger hospital complex. i don't think that that is everything the israelis are going to find, if there are, in fact -- if hamas has, in fact, been conducting major operations in and under the hospital. let's see what emerges in the next couple few days. >> michael, there are disagreements between the administration and the israeli government over what happens next, over israel's proposal for a buffer zone, which would displace more palestinians, take more of their land, over who would be or stay in gaza. there's stuff happening in the west bank with settlers, which is really very incendiary. >> maybe the only problem as difficult as how israel can go after hamas at minimum cost to civilian life is what you do when this operation is finished. who is going to come in and control this devastated territory with a traumatized and probably in some -- to some degree radicalized population? i don't think that the neighboring arab states want to take this problem on to their hands. it's likely whoever comes to control gaza will face insurgency and terrorism. the israelis may think they need to do it. that's going to create increasing friction with the biden administration and the international community. >> thank you so much, michael. we will have more on this and on the hostage situation. is there a deal or no deal? that's coming up later in the program. thanks to michael crowley. the protesters that clashed with capitol police officers outside the democratic party headquarters right here. pepper spray, injuries, assault and arrests. new details coming next. this is "andrea mitchell reports." we will be back in 60 seconds right here on msnbc. 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>> i do. i'm hoping that george does the right thing and resigns and leaves congress. thanksgiving break is a great time to do that, clean out his office. i did not vote in the past to expel george because i didn't believe there was due process. he had been charged criminally with felonies, very serious matters. but he had not been found guilty. the ethics committee really, i think, gave him the opportunity. he did not avail himself of that opportunity. the ethics committee found he did not cooperate with the investigation. i think he has been given the fair due process now. >> if he does not resign within a reasonable amount of time, thanksgiving, as you point out would be a good time or over the other holidays, would you then favor the resolution for expulsion? >> i would favor it. i believe speaker johnson will bring it between thanksgiving and christmas. >> speaking of speaker johnson, he has gotten an identical vote in terms of how many democrats are voting for a continuing resolution without deep budget cuts. it's what they would call a clean bill. not israel funding, not ukraine funding. is he at risk? why isn't he at risk the way mccarthy was? mccarthy lost his job by going to democrats to keep the government open. >> i think there's a big difference between where kevin mccarthy was when he was vacated and where speaker johnson is right now. >> what's the difference? >> kevin mccarthy started with a clean slate. he started in january. he did not bring the bills -- the appropriations bills to the floor in may, june, one in july. there was no time by the end of september to pass those bills. mike has inherited a mess right now and is trying to clean up that mess. needs to do it in a bipartisan way. >> what about what happened the other day on the hill? there were charges from one congressman that he was pushed by speaker mccarthy. they were mixing it up. what about congressional behavior? the so-called dignity of the united states congress. >> yeah. the civility is gone. we were there ten weeks in a row. i think people really -- this thanksgiving break is well timed. people had reached their -- the end of their rope, so to speak. i think the joy of going home and realizing all that we have to be thankful for and being with family and friends and in our community will be really helpful to come back and get a lot of work done. >> can i just say, we expect children in kindergarten to behave better than that. >> yes. >> congress members aren't prisoners during a session. they get to go home on weekends. they have a lot of perks. you would expect better behavior. >> i do expect better behavior. he has police protection. tim doesn't have police protection. it was a bizarre activity. then senator mullin standing up and challenging a witness to a fight. it was nonsense. there have been other things, other just uncivil rhetoric among different people. it's unfortunate. i think that the tension will decrease when we get back from the thanksgiving break. >> need a good schoolteacher to send them to their rooms. thank you very much. >> thank you. i can't wait to go to time-out. >> exactly. the report card, speaking of school. some progress out of president biden's meetings with china's president xi. some nes on panda diplomacy. the top democrat on the select committee on china will join me next. we will be right back right here on "andrea mitchell reports." hea baby grand piano. you're replacing me? 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there was a lot of fuss made over -- especially in chinese media back in beijing, over president biden, who we know is a car junky, not junk cars but loves great cars, corvettes, american cars making a big fuss over the armored limo that president xi was riding in, which may be a first. >> sure. i'm glad that they made agreements with regard to establishing military-to-military communication channels, fentanyl ending up in the united states. i'm glad about the pandas coming back to the u.s. i love that. i think what i wanted to hear a little more -- perhaps it was discussed -- was the issue of the ccp's crackdown on human rights, especially the uyghur genocide, as well as repression. i wanted to hear about the chinese communist party taking steps to low its economic aggression, including the incessant cyber hacking and theft of intellectual property, among other things. >> there was little mention of that. not a lot delivered, it seems, on china agreeing to pressure iran, which supplies so much oil to china, to try to contain the middle east war. >> i think they probably talked about it. based on what i read in the press, they had very extensive discussions about iran. i think they talked about russia as well. especially with regard to iran, i think xi jinping was more listening than talking. he has tremendous leverage with regard to iran. he should use that leverage to reduce their nefarious activities, especially with regard to hezbollah and hamas. >> the president, in trying to be as upbeat and positive about the summit as he was, and xi also was pretty much during the public comments, might have slipped a little bit when he was asked again how he would describe president xi. let's watch. >> mr. president, after today, would you still refer to president xi as a dictator as a term that you used earlier this year? 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>> that's right. the president and others in the administration have said they think this is going to happen. it could happen very quickly. i think it's important to remember that these negotiations, it's not a bunch of guys sitting around a table hammering out a deal. it's an incredibly laborious process. all these responses have to then filter back down. you have got changes of situations on the ground that change the responses. then they have to go back to zero and start again. i think there was a proposal last week for about 20 hostages to be released. that changed. there have been differences of opinion on how long a pause would be. right now, my understanding is that hamas has agreed to let go at least 50. president biden said last night 50 to 100. so we don't know exactly how many we are talking about. the decision apparently now rests with israel, which is not particularly interested in having a pause at the moment. they are still conducting operations at al-shifa hospital. they now have said this morning they want to move into southern gaza and have warned people to get out of there. it's not clear what their answer is going to be. i think they are under pressure from the americans and other supporters to move ahead with this. we're all just waiting to see what the answer is. >> presumably, since the u.s. is so deeply involved in this, the ten americans, approximately ten remaining americans, would probably be in this group, because they included women, those who were women and children. we also are hearing independently that the idf prisoners, women and men, would be the last to be released. they would be held back in reserve as bargaining chips for terror suspects or terror prisoners. >> it's not clear in terms of the ones that will be released, we hope, whether they are going to be foreigners, israelis, a mix of both. that, again, is not clear. i think there's some -- it's a bit of a bone of contention in israel, certainly among the hostage families. why should the foreigners be released first? as you said, hamas said they will keep the israeli military prisoners hopefully for some kind of more substantive trade sometime in the future. >> karen, extraordinary reporting, as always. thank you very much for sharing it. we appreciate it. >> thanks. you are welcome. joining us now is ambassador pinkus, former israeli consular. what you can tell us about the possible hostage deal? the president said he was mildly hopeful last night. >> the president's point man on this is apparently the director of the cia, bill burns. the president is apprised to the last detail. as karen very precisely, very accurately described, this is not a negotiating table. as she said, and i'm paraphrasing, hamas is talking to the qataris who are talking to the americans who are talking to the israelis who divulge some information to the egyptians who go back to the americans and so on and so forth. what i do know is based on the -- sort of a synthesizing all the reports, we are looking at a partial deal. not a general all for all. all israeli hostages and prisoners in exchange for all palestinians, hamas members held in jails in israel. that was an idea that was entertained a few weeks ago. that's not on the table. we are looking at 50, 60, maybe up to 100 people that would include people with dual citizenships, several dozen of foreign workers. there were many thai agriculture laborers who were working in those towns that were ransacked and carnaged by hamas. they were taken hostages. women and children, i don't know if all -- karen was right, it probably does not include idf soldiers, whether male or female. in exchange for that, hamas is asking for a five-day cease-fire to which israel has not agreed. israel was saying three days maximum. even the three days are meeting some opposition in the idf, which thinks we should -- israel should not agree to such a lengthy cease-fire. >> at this stage, women and children from israel, palestinian women and children would be released in exchange. presumably, this would be an escort through the international red cross, which is the way it has happened in the past. through the north. >> yes, absolutely. either through the international red cross or through a collaboration between international red cross and the egyptians who control the southern tip or the southern border, if you will, of the gaza enclave of the gaza strip with egypt. probably, as you -- it's going to be one to one. if there are 80, an arbitrary number, if there are 80 israelis being released, there will be 80 palestinians being released. i think the big question now is not the number of people -- that's obviously the most important and troubling thing. but the length of the cease-fire. >> ambassador, it's fascinating and hopeful. although, it will be a huge disappointment to the remaining hostage families who are still grieving and don't even know. one thing i want to add, we are still waiting for hamas and maybe jihad and others to comply with international law under geneva conventions that the red cross get information immediately to the hostages, get food to them, get information to their families, because these families don't know whether they are alive or dead. >> that's right. nor their medical condition. i would not place any hopes on hamas abiding by international law or the geneva convention. >> that's an understatement. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. political punching. flirting with a 2024 run, senator joe manchin road tests criticism of the biden administration and the president himself as he appeals to the middle. whatever the middle is these days. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ae overcoming challenges. ♪ when better money habits® content first started coming out, it expanded what i could do for special olympics athletes with developmental needs. thousands of bank of america employees like scott spend countless hours volunteering to teach people how to reach their financial goals. it felt good. it felt like i could take on the whole world. are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? 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and that's not the middle. >> in the interview he was very clear in his decision admonition for donald trump, right? that he's a threat to democracy, that he would not be good for america, but then he's being very coy about this front. yes, he criticized biden, but we're really comparing apples to oranges in terms of his criticism of trump and criticism of biden. so we have that, but then this is a man who for decades has been the ultimate pragmatist, and he knows that if he were to run, he would set up a very likely scenario where a donald trump could come back into power, so his actions as a pragmatist just do not match up with this rhetoric that he has about, you know, wanting to move to the middle and maybe he's going to consider a run, so i'm dealing with a lot of cognitive dissonance when i'm listening to joe manchin. >> and brendan, look at the new hampshire, nikki haley is in second place in a new cnn poll. it's still very early in the process, but how does that change the dynamics? you can see that christie is in third place, desantis fourth, and then ramaswamy is in last place. but trump is way ahead. >> yeah, you know, we've been trying to squint and make a race out of this primary for a long time, and the polls just haven't really backed it up. this is the first poll that we've seen in a long time where if you squint a little bit, you may be able to see something. obviously donald trump at 42 has a commanding lead, but he's effectively the incumbent, and in politics when the incumbent is below 50%, that's not good, and haley, obviously surging here, and you've got chris christie who is sort of a proxy for an anti-trump vote. you add those two together and get pretty close to him. i'm not necessarily saying that trump is in danger here. the problem remains there's too many people and it's what we saw in 2016, while the field has narrow add bit, it needs to narrow further if there's going to be any chance to stop him. i do think this adds momentum to nikki haley's case that she is the best person to take him on. and if a ron desantis and chris christie were to drop out, maybe there's something there in new hampshire. donald trump is still the overwhelming favorite to win this. this is definitely the first interesting poll we've seen in a while. >> victoria, i want to ask you also about this war and the fact that there are so many protests, especially among the president's base and especially among young people against his position, which is being perceived as being balanced more towards israel than towards the palestinians largely because hamas started the war and the massacre started the war, but certainly the pictures are telling a different story in terms of just the political impact of what the rest of the world is seeing and a lot of young people. i also wanted to show you some pictures we just received of the idf apparently bulldozing the arafat statue in the west bank, which is certainly a fairly provocative gesture. there are also a lot of provocative non-visual elements of the settlers expanding their reach, israeli settlers in the west bank in the last couple of weeks just since the war started. to see that statue coming down, i've been there many times, is quite remarkable, and certainly offensive to a lot of palestinians. >> and it's the symbolism of the deep division that this conflict has caused, and the division within the democratic party is particularly stark, and this is a problem when we're looking at the 2024 because the president and former president donald trump are so close in the polls, and in addition to that is when we look at enthusiasm for joe biden, we're looking at the numbers and we're not seeing the enthusiasm that you would want to see. on the flip side, donald trump has a lot more enthusiasm than the folk who is do approve of him. this is something that would not maybe have a democrat vote republican, but may make them stay home. >> victoria defrancesco soto and brendan buck, some alarm bells there for both paies. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. 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