continue this travesty and darkness and i want sunlight. that's a nice way of saying it. isn't that pretty. i want sunlight. i want everything exposed to the public. and let's let the public decide because i want cameras at every inch of that courthouse. >> careful what you wish for? >> no, he doesn't. >> we got a lot to cover from that speech on saturday, including some frightening comments from the front-runner in the republican primary. meanwhile, donald trump's defense team will present its case in the civil fraud trial. we'll tell you who is taking the stand later today in new york. also ahead, it appears the new house speaker is not ready to move forward with the impeachment inquiry into president biden. we'll go through that new reporting. plus, we'll play for you the surprise announcement from republican senator tim scott, one of the five candidates who was just on the debate stage last week. we'll also bring to you the very latest out of israel and gaza. good monday morning to you. it is november 13th. with us we have the host of "way too early" jonathan lemire, former aide to the george w. bush white house and state department elise jordan. president emeritus on foreign relation, richard haass is here, host of "politics nation" rev land al sharpton, founder of the conservative website the bullwork, charlie psychs and jim vandehei is here this morning. a lot to talk about in a jam-packed, scary stuff speech by former president trump over the weekend. >> well, i mean, there's a lot to talk about. he just reveals more about himself. "the washington post," of course, reported a few last week that donald trump basically was making an enemy's list and said if he were elected president of the united states he would use his position as president and start going after democrats, start going after political enemies, start going after -- it sounded like arresting even his former lawyers who no longer defend him. so you have all that talk, but you always had this fascist talk coming from him. and it was just a week or two ago that the anti-defamation league and many others were concerned when he was talking about immigrants, quote, poisoning the blood of america. and, of course, that's again just sort of calls for racial purity, which of course i find absolutely fascinating since we are a nation of immigrants. >> yeah. >> donald trump -- as donald trump himself knows, what were they called the drumpfs? what was his last name. >> drumpfs came here from germany when -- just having a name drumpf and being from germany was seen as anti-american and seen as poisoning the bloodstream. and now we're going -- we're just going full on hitler talking about vermin. and of course it's so interesting. i don't know who his spokesperson is, but you know, one of these fat white boys that likes to talk tough. oh, they're triggered. they're triggered. we will crush them. yours is they will be crushed. their lives will be crushed. so you have a bunch of weak people, a bunch of fat white boys a bunch of phony populist going around talking tough and unfortunately making threats that we, those of us who love democracy, those of us who actually believe in the american experiment all these years later, have to be worried about. >> yeah. >> and you look again. you look at the language of donald trump. you look at what donald trump says he's going to do. and you go back to maya angelou's saying, when somebody tells you who they are, believe them the first time. we have to believe him. and we also have to believe that this is the most important election probably since 1864. >> we try to call him out on the lies that he puts out there or not cover frivolous stuff that he says that is lies. but in this case, you have to look. amid a rise in anti-semitism across the united states, donald trump echoed the dangerous language of infamous fascist leaders in a social media post on saturday veterans day. and then again at a rally later in the day, trump vowed to root out the, quote, vermin within the country. take a look. >> in honor of our great veterans on veterans day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communist, marxist, fascist and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. >> i mean, it's really unbelievable what he says. and carlos lozata "the new york times" this weekend wrote, trump is running as an overtly authoritarian candidate. the illusion of pivots of adults in the rooms of a man molded by the office long gone. he is dismissive of the law except when he can harness it for his own benefit. of open expression except when it fawns of free elections except when it produces the results that he liked. he has called for the termination of the constitution based on his persistent claims of a 2020 electoral fraud and in a new term, would use the justice department as an instrument of vengeance against political opponents. we know who trump is. and what he offs. jim vandehei, that's a pretty good summary of a guy who is running as an authoritarian. >> no doubt. i think what you talked about earlier is the most important point. we always get sidetracked by the rhetoric that trump use. he is being very, very specific with us about what he's going to do. "the new york times" has done a fabulous series detailing that and everybody watching this should look at it because it's using his words to show what a second term would look like. we have reporting this morning that what's different if he wins is that he's going to come into office with an army of 40 to 50,000 people, ready to staff the government. he's not going to have the restraints of cabinet officials who disagree with him. he's going to do everything he can to purge anybody who's professional staff who has been there a long time and have a year's worth of vetting. they're asking people about their ideology, books they've re,ame one figure who you believe captures your spirit, your political philosophy. i think the obvious answer there for a lot of them is going to be trump. and if you answer trump, you pass this loyalty test. then they can put you into the bowels of government where the action happens. it's one thing to have rhetoric. it's another thing to take the department of homeland security, the department of defense, the department of justice and put in there people who believe what trump believes so that you can do the things that he says he's going to do. so i won't assume he's saying these things and bombast. he'll come in hell bent on doing it and this time it will be a much more organized government to be able to do it which is why i think this is the most important election of our life time because the contrast is massive and both sides would come in with teams ready to do what they want to do. >> wow. >> richard haass, i mean, you've seen this around the world. you've seen this from people like orbon what he's done where he has run off any press that opposes him. he's started by doing attacks, whether it's going after them for bogus tax reasons. he's regulated them out of business. he's run them out of hungary. they've taken over and the state runs media. so he doesn't have opponents. he's done the same to his political opponents. and so you've seen this threat before. but again with donald trump, you even take the fcc. he said he's going to bring all of that power into the white house. so he can decide what newspapers, what tv shows, what networks he likes, what networks he doesn't like. and then, you know, take him off the air if he doesn't want to take him off the air. this along with terminating the constitution, this is what he is promising already. >> yeah. we have seen it in places like hungary and turkey. it's interesting, joe, we're living at a time where the big foreign policy stories are what, invasion of democracies russia against ukraine and hamas against israel. the history of democracy are the greatest threats to democracy. donald trump said the greatest threats to democracy are not external invasion they're internal erosion of democratic restraints, of institutions, of norms, of laws. that's what donald trump represents great of threat we have from china, russia, you name it. the real threat to this country is from within and i think you just heard it. >> so speaking of orbon also at that new hampshire rally, donald trump praised hungary's authoritarian president, something that's become a staple of trump's recent speeches. and then went off teleprompter, again suggested barack obama is still the president of the united states. >> the head of hungary, very tough, strong guy, victor organize orben. probably considered very powerful, very powerful. they were interviewing him two weeks ago. they said what would you advise president obama, the whole world seems to be exploding and imploding. he said it's very simple, he should immediately resign and they should replace him with president trump. >> yeah. >> okay. >> charlie, i don't know how to break this to donald. but he keeps getting confused about who's the president of the united states. in fact, "the washington post" and "the new york times" both have had articles out over the past couple days about how now republican opponents are starting to take all of the times that donald trump has gotten lost on stage, all of his gaffes, all of his confusions, the fact that the poor guy still doesn't know who the president of the united states is, keeps going to a guy who was last elected president over a decade ago. and we're hearing it more and more. and now republicans are going after all the gaffes and all of the confusion that this poor old guy is having. >> yeah. i mean, there have been a series of gaffes but it's a mistake to focus on the gaffes. i think we ought to focus on what he is telling us he intends to do. i mean, to jim's point, on a daily basis, donald trump is laying out what trump 2.0 would be. and praise of orbon. he may have gotten the presidents wrong. the significance of that is not the gaffe, it's really his admiration, his deep admiration, on going admiration for the world's authoritarian thugs. admiration of president xi and vladimir putin his intent to turn the government into a weapon of revenge and retribution. the plans, the detailed plans for massive deportations and concentration camps, i mean, this is one of those moments where we have to distinguish between the white noise and the blinking red flairs that are going up every time this man speaks. so, donald trump is, in fact -- i mean, we can regard him as the orange clown, but he is deadly serious here. the clown with a flame thrower still has a flame thrower. and donald trump is escalating his rhetoric on a regular basis. you would think that having wrapped up the nomination he might try to be a little more reasonable, move toward the center. in fact, what he's saying is, no, what i really want to do is, i am an election denier, authoritarian and this is what i plan to do to the federal government of the constitutional norms. i think we need to take him deadly seriously about that. >> absolutely. and we have already seen what he has tried to do at the end of the last election, still thinks he won that. the biggest news, of course, out of all of this overarching are trump's plans to create an authoritarian government, to change -- to really change this democracy out of a democracy. there is good reporting on those plans and the people he plans to bring in. the data he's putting together. but, rev, i'm just curious if you noticed this obsession with obama and wonder if there's something there. president obama has promised president biden any support that he needs in the campaign. and we know where it all began with obama and donald trump. and everything about the birth certificate and ore things he tried to float out there if there's a subtle obsession with obama here coming out? this is the fifth time maybe he's -- >> i don't think it's subtle. i think it is an obsession. it's a clear obsession. >> what is it? >> let's remember, donald trump went from a failed tv reality star into politics as the face of the birther moment. >> racism. >> this whole trying to anti-obama with real race tinged applications is what brought him to the party. i think that obsession has never left him. he sees biden as immaterial, it's us against them. with all the racial implications of that and i think subconsciously he's playing to that with his audience and we're really running against them but we're running against obama. he doesn't have the mental discipline to hold back and remember that it's biden he's running against because he's really focussed on them. that's where the vermin thing comes from. that's where everything he's saying running as awe autocrat comes from. we have to stop them. i'm going to line them up. i'm going to mow them down. i'm going to lock them up. it's them against us and obama, that black president, is exactly what the problem is. i don't think it's a subtle or obsession at all, i think that's who he is. >> on the gaffes, it's probably in the category of too little too late, governor desantis has tried to amplify trump's misstatements. aren't many things biden and desantis's tweets about that, biden campaign retweets it. they're trying to negate any concerns about the current president's age. let's shift back to the policy here and jim's point earlier. if you haven't read "the new york times" piece, please do what trump is saying he'll outline for a second term of immigration. it's building kamps. it's raids. it is sweeps. it is trying to change the definition of citizenship in the united states. for birthright citizenship saying children born to immigrants are here illegally shouldn't be considered united states citizens. and also, there's not many people in place to stop him. there's no guardrail anymore. there's no mattis, kelly, just pure loyalists. >> well, that's what scares me because it's effective this go around. we really got lucky as democracy last go around that he was so ineffective and had so many blundering people appointed and he didn't have the real hard core people in place to tear open the bureaucracy. but this go around, i'm not so sure. you look how the heritage foundation is so involved in this push and they're adding their institutional heft to it. that's really concerning. and if anyone wants to consider heritage mainstream, if they're processing this kind of federal personnel system, that's really called into question. >> oh my god, the heritage foundation used to be mainstream for conservatives after ronald reagan got elected, that's really where so much of those ideas got elected. there is nothing reaganesque about this heritage foundation. i'm sure charlie could go on about that for quite some time and we'll talk about that in a little bit. but jim vandehei, i want to go back to you and just say, he is -- donald trump is planning it all out. when he starts talking about these camps for illegal immigrants, starts talking about all these other things he's preying upon something that middle class voters that swing voters, independent voters are actually worried about and that is the chaos at the southern border. >> yeah. i mean, you listen to this conversation and then you look at the polls. there's a lot of people who are very susceptible to this. a lot of people out there who feel like the immigration laws are way too loose and that the effects of that are bad for society. you look at the polls on who do you trust on immigration. he crushes joe biden. who do you trust on crime? he crushes joe biden. so we should make no mistake that there is 50% plus of the country that's very, very open to this message. and i think the reason to listen to what he says and to understand that he's going to be way more ready is that there's at least a 50/50 chance he can win the presidency, no matter how ludicrous some people may think that is, the numbers are unmistakable. and i think that's why the work that the heritage foundation, yes, this is not the ronald reagan heritage foundation, but this isn't the ronald reagan party anymore. the party is very much steve miller and donald trump. at least the apparatus. and that's what's different this time around. you'll have think tanks. you'll have manpower. you're going to have ideas. you're going to have lawyers. you're going to have bureaucrats that one of the things they talked about doing that's alarming people at dod, they want to go through and scrub the generals and the flag officers and figure out, are they sufficiently loyal? why do they want to do that? because some of the greatest handcuffs that were imposed on trump in the latter days were by general milley and the dod saying we're not going to do that. we will not do these things. what happens when you have 40, 50,000 people in the positions that actually make things happen in government say, hell yeah i'm with you on that. then things actually get done. it's not just rhetoric, it's action. and that would be a pretty radical shift in the direction of the country. doing things with government, viewing laws in ways that have not been done and not been viewed under the previous presidents of the united states. >> you know, we're going to play for you one more moment from that speech in new hampshire where trump again mocked the husband of nancy pelosi for being savagely beaten. and breaking news out of the uk, a reshuffling of the current prime minister's cabinet. he has a former prime minister returning to the government. major news that broke just before the show started. we'll tell you what that is. we're back in one minute. ted. we'll tell you what that is. we're back in one minute with the money i saved, i started a dog walking business. i was a bit nervous at first but then i figured it's just walking, right? 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of mussolini actually rose to power when what did they do? they charged government buildings. what did mussolini talk about, poisoning the blood of italy with jews and with immigrants and with gypsies. i mean, you can go down the list. and here you have the glorification, the mocking, the ridiculing of a man in his 80s being almost beaten to death. and donald trump is laughing about it. and we know who he is. but who are the people in the audience who are laughing who are cheering, who are applauding the brutal assault and almost killing of a man in his 80s? who are those people? >> yeah. this is the scary part, isn't it? in fact, jim points out this taps into something. look, this is sick stuff. but it is consistent. donald trump has a fetish for violence. he's encouraging the fetish for violence. one of the themes that runs through some of the things we have been talking about is his real appetite for brutality and to cruelty. during that speech, he talked about his enthusiasm for the immediate death penalty. this is something that he is cultivated. and the fact that it gives millions of americans a dopamine hit. maybe what america needs is a strong man, a strong man that will punch our enemies in the face and what's interesting the is self contradiction. donald trump says during his presidency there were no acts of terror. well, of course there were. and they were domestic acts of terror. so earlier in the show you played the clip, the greatest threat of america doesn't come from abroad, it comes with within. and that's true. and he is pouring care seen on the fire, telling americans the real enemy is not abroad, the real enemy is your fellow americans. look around you. those are the people that are the vermin. those are the people that we must attack. those are the people that we must -- that we must fight against. and that is dangerous. but it is this cultivation of brutality and this fetish for violence that is really alarming. but it's really central to what he is selling right now. >> yes, it is. >> jonathan, talk about that, if you will. he has for some time. after the hellacious terror attack against israel and the taking of hostages he started calling the thugs that beat cops up on january 6th, started calling them hostages, but he used violent language throughout his presidency and throughout his post presidency. and it continues. and again, as jim says, charlie says, it's only intensifying. it's almost like he's saying, okay, i'm going to run on this. i'm going to run being an open authoritarian who praises orban, who praises putin, who calls putin brilliant, who praises xi, who praises hezbollah, saying they're very smart. again it's almost like he's -- not almost like -- he is. he's tearing down all boundaries between good and bad, right and wrong, democracy and authoritarianism and it's intensifying by the day. >> and we should take him at his word. this is what he will do in a second term. of course we can trace this back to the 2016 campaign, the violent rhetoric where he would urge his supporters to beat up protesters at his events. we know that he considered unleashing the military on protesters during -- in george floyd in 2020, uprising during the black lives matter movement. we know in terms what he would do next time around, we touched upon the immigration policy, but his aides openly mused about invoking the insurrection act on inauguration test people trying to stand up against him. all those dictators you mentioned, kim jong-un as well, he uses them as role models here. his rhetoric has grown increasingly more erratic but also increasingly more violent. and when he does, he gets cheers from the crowd and he has stood with the january 6th rye rotters. he has said and appeared with their choir of convicts and he has said he would pardon them. almost all of them. and deem them hostages, mika. it's very clear where a trump presidency would go were he to win again. >> and he's using all these trials and these serious 91 counts against him, serious charges, using them to gain more traction with his following as the victim. much was made of last week's see yen that poll found donald trump leading joe biden in fiv of six battleground states won by then candidate biden in the last election, it's worth noting another take away from that poll, the effect one independent candidate is having. when the poll included robert f. kennedy jr. as an option, nearly one quarter said they would support him. according to an analysis by "the new rkimes." voters who dislike both major party candidates, group known to pollsters and political campaigns as double haters, have beennsumental in the outcomes of the last two presidential elections. and there are now more than tries as many of them as there were four years ago. jim vandehei, i think the way this is leaning seems to be surprising some. >> yeah. i mean, i think it's maybe less to do with kennedy himself and much more to do with the double hatred. the flip side of trump having this really solid base is that 60% plus don't want him to run, don't want him to win. it's very much i think -- remember, people aren't data points. people are humans. and when you're scared, some people respond to strength. and that's probably the play that he has. but there's just a lot of unhappy people out there, both with joe biden and donald trump. they want something else. so when somebody like kennedy comes along, who is articulate, controversial but articulate, you can see people gravitating towards him. and probably cuts i think at the end of the day more against biden than it does trump. but i think it speaks to the uncertainty out there. i think it really speaks to this hunger, my belief we talked about it a lot of times out there, i still think we spend a little too much time on kind of the crazies on both sides. i think 70% of most people out there are normal. and i think normal people would like a normal president. they would like something different. they would like something with a different tone and maybe different policies. and that's what kennedy will try to tap into. the fact he's at 24, something is happening. >> i know bobby. there's nothing normal about his positions. >> we're all sitting here going, that's not normal. >> his positions border on lunacy on so many things. he is a master conspiracy theorist. the difference between him and donald trump is trump really doesn't believe it. donald knows he got shellacked. he knows this. he knows joe biden beat him. it's what drives him everyday. it's what -- it's what makes him a snow flake everyday. it's what triggers donald trump everyday. he knows joe biden just whipped him at the polls. rfk jr., he believes it. he believes his conspiracy theories. again, i know bobby and i've known him for a while and i like him, but that's some crazy -- i won't say it at 6:30. that's some crazy stuff that even his family agrees with, even his close friends agree with it, that is some kind of crazy on those conspiracy theories. and what's so interesting about it is the more i think, rev, the more people know rfk jr., the more it cuts against donald trump because they're both preaching from the same crazy testament of one conspiracy theory after another conspiracy theory after another. i mean, it's whacko. so you go in and listen to what he says about these conspiracy theories. gets the middle of the campaign, he's going to suddenly make ross perot look like a very sane, stable, calm, cool headed independent candidate. that ain't coming from joe biden's voters. that's going to come straight from donald's voters. >> no doubt about it. i mean, we thought it was bizarre when ross perot thought about what happened at his daughter's wedding in his own mind. that is mild compared to what robert kennedy -- >> let's remind viewers, let's remind viewers, he thought the black panthers had scaled the walls of his estate to try to stop his daughter's wedding. he still got 19%. but go ahead. >> 19% of the vote. so, the difference, though, between donald trump and robert kennedy is using your and my annoy of show business, donald trump doesn't believe it. he'll get on stage and go through the act and smile at you while he's going through the wings back to the dressing room. robert will get on stage and give you the wildest conspiracy theories and then get in the dressing room and try to convince you that he's right about the conspiracy theories. he really believes this which makes it more dangerous. the only good news is he takes away from the conspiracy theory crowd and voters because they will go to him. they clearly don't want anyone sane and balanced as -- in joe biden. so i think clearly it is the -- the polls are right in this case, i believe. robert kennedy hurts trump. >> and elise, that's one of the reasons why the trump campaign at first was saying nice things about bobby jr., now they're going after him. >> yeah, it will take away from his crazy percent. you know, joe, i think we cannot dismiss the crazy percent of the vote because it's what is going to fuel these primaries, the iowa caucus. i remember back in 2016 when i was working on senator rand paul's bid, you know, it looked like iowa -- iowa should go for rand. i mean, ron paul in 2012 and very libertarian leaning. then it gets down to that iowa caucus voter and they want to go for someone a little crazy and it's the crazy one that wins. so that is what's driving and fueling our political scene right now and we need to -- we can't ignore it. we have to pay attention to it and look at it for what it is. >> in a big way. jim vandehei and charlie sykes, thank you both very much for being on this morning. coming up, we'll get to israel. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu signals a potential deal to free more hostages from hamas. we'll show you what he had to say on "meet the press" and get reaction from richard haass. 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and wrote all that for an op-ed for the times of london last week. cameron, served 2010 to 2016 as current foreign secretary will move into braverman's role, of course, fleet street as well as the paper of record for "morning joe," the new york post, crushed that the former prime minister selected was not boris johnson. more on that later. first, to richard haass, richard, fascinating developments for a party right now and a prime minister ship that certainly has read the polls. they're going to get crushed in the next election. so, we're starting to see pretty dramatic reshuffling of the cabinet. this is as dramatic as it gets. >> to get rid of the former home secretary -- she was if you will going back to our previous conversation, she's the tory crazy. she's positioning -- she wrote that op-ed, she knew she was going to get booted. she's positioning herself for a leadership bid in the conservative party and bringing cameron in is bringing the grown-ups back in. this is a way for the torys to staunch the bleeding as they head into an election as you say the polls are heavily against them. i just remind people that david cameron is the guy who also lit the fuse on brexit. nobody in today's conservative party many britain like today's republican party here who hasn't had to adjust given the politics. >> all right. >> the difference of it is, of course, mika, the labor party right now. is light years ahead in polls of the torys if there were an election tomorrow there would be a massive, massive landslide. getting back to the last conversation, braverman would be more like the steven miller of britain. >> exactly. >> i wasn't saying that to be funny. that's what she's trying to be. >> that's the parallel. >> and now here is another parallel that, you know, conservatives in britain duck because she's going to run most likely to be the next party leader. and if she wins that, what's happened to the united states, where the republican party is lost in 2017, '18, 19, 21, 22 and 23 that will start happening to conservatives in britain. we'll see if they can learn from the mistakes of conservatives, so-called conservatives in america. i seriously doubt it. >> all right. we'll be following that. to israel now, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu discussed a possible deal yesterday to free the hostages taken by hamas on october 7th. speaking on "meet the press" netanyahu attributed any movement toward an agreement to israel's ground offensive in gaza. take a listen. >> so is there a potential deal, mr. prime minister? is there a potential deal? >> there could be, but i think the less i say about it the more i'll increase the chances that it materializes. and it's a result of pressure. military pressure. the extraordinary work that the idf is doing, putting pressure on hamas leadership, that's the one thing that might create a deal. and if a deal is available, well, we'll talk about it when it's there. we'll announce it if it's achieved. >> do you know where all of the hostages are being held right now, mr. prime minister? >> we know a great deal, but i won't go beyond that. >> biden administration official confirmed to nbc news a potential deal would release about 80 women and children in exchange for the release of palestinian women and teenagers held by israel. however, the prime minister cautioned that any deal would not include a cease fire on the part of israel. he said, quote, different authority must govern gaza once the war is over but did not say whether he would accept an international force to do so. richard haass, on a number of levels, how is benjamin netanyahu managing this given what some would say is a bit of a crisis in leadership with them. >> everyone would say that. >> okay. trying to be -- trying to be careful with my words. >> he's trying to attribute the possibility of a hostage deal to israel's use of force. i think would be more attributable to an exchange. i think there's that. second of all, we have seen some slight adjustment, emphasize the word slight, to israeli military behavior. the idea that openness to these short pauses and so forth. >> yeah. >> but we're still seeing obviously harm done to civilians. the most interesting thing what the prime minister had to say over the weekend is how far apart he and president biden are on what comes after. >> exactly. >> he is talking about a prolonged israeli occupation, open ended. and he dismissed the possibility of the palestinian authority, the one potentially, potentially one would have thought acceptable palestinian leadership to play a role not just in the west bank but in gaza. and what's so interesting about that, mika, it shows in israel, both in his government zero interest in a two-state solution. >> that's right. >> and increasingly in israel. i think what we're seeing is -- and i underestimated this myself, the impact of october 7. to put it bluntly, there's no doves in israel right now. so it's not just that the government is extreme. indeed they're now talking about having settlements in gaza, just to give you an idea. they had to get rid of a minister who talked about using a nuclear weapon. it's not just the extremism of the government, but i think what we're seeing in israel is real disillusionment and maybe that's not strong enough word. >> no. visceral reaction to october 7th. >> right. the idea that there's no palestinian leadership you could ever trust to live alongside israel. they don't have an alternative. >> that's not long term. >> there's zero alternative that's been articulated. the israelis say we know what we don't like and don't want. we haven't figured out what it is we want and we haven't figured out how to bring it about. >> and of course, you can -- again, we have had context to this and perspective to it to say that you look what was being said in the united states after september 11th. you know, israel equivalent of 40, 50,000 people were slaughtered, tortured, raped -- >> kidnapped. >> burned. >> kidnapped, their children, their babies executed, riddled with bullet holes while lying in their cribs. so right now, again, right now may not be the time that all israelis are going to run together and say, let's figure out a two-state solution. especially where the palestinian authority that is old, that is corrupt, that is despised by most palestinians anyone. you can't have free elections in the west bank because hamas would win there today. hamas would win there today. you have an old, corrupt decayed palestinian authority that's got to be replaced. i must say, though, and let me sound like an arrogant american and i will, if the united states of america is doing what we're doing, jonathan lemire, to help israel right now who -- because clowns that he brought in to his government, israel couldn't do for themselves on october 7th. and we have to say, we have a big say down the road whether if there are israelis there. and i believe there will be again down the road after hamas is rooted out and destroyed, that will move towards a two-state solution again. we have no other option. we have no other option. and if we're looking at a united nations-led arab peace keeping force in gaza, we're talking down the road, then that's something that the united states is still looking over the horizon saying this is what needs to happen. now, of course, people can editorialize, oh that will never happen. >> well, no. it's september 12th right now for israel. it may take a little while for things to move forward. but, of course, i've just got to say, based on what i hear from you and your reporting inside the white house, benjamin netanyahu is probably -- if the white house is right, probably not going to be around to be making these decisions that he's talking about on sunday talk shows right now because the biden administration and the rest of the world, including israel, is planning for a post-netanyahu israel that many believe will come sooner rather than later. >> yeah. netanyahu himself is very fond of making the september 12th analogy when he's pressed about what happens next. very like we're still at september 12th and therefore our focus is simply to strike back. but you're right, joe. those in the white house, they recognize this could be weeks or months. this will not be overnight but they do think bibi netanyahu's time in office is probably limited because of his polling numbers and being blamed for what happened on october 7th. >> for good reason. >> yes. the white house has been very clear eyed in every statement from president biden, secretary of state and others that the u.s. wants a two-state solution. they have not wavered on that at all. richard, let's get to the other half of this, though, in terms of the right now the reaction to the arab world what we're seeing in gaza, particularly some really hard images, really hard stories coming out of the hospital there, which become the epicenter of the fighting, israel says hamas has underground bunkers where their terror leadership is hiding. but of course, we're seeing newborn babies taken off of the icu unit, really hard stuff. what are you seeing right now in terms of the reaction elsewhere in the region? >> look, the rest of the region is watching this, inflaming it to some extent. obviously there's no moving forward with the saudi, israeli normalization. that's on long-term hold, though that's still the most powerful potential change in the region. i'm worried about potentially jordan. obviously questions of egypt and then we have to see whether the war expands to hezbollah. let me say one thing president biden could do- taking a page out of bibi netanyahu's book. he went to the congress and undermined obama, argued against the iran deal. what i recommend joe biden do, go over would recommend joe bidn do, go over the head of the israeli people and say, okay, let's talk about how we conduct this military operation, but more importantly, the long term. i understand october 7th. biden has tremendous capital with the people. i say this is the moment you should go back to israel, talk to the israeli people and try to frame this issue and take it -- >> that would be bold. >> let's usher bibi netanyahu off the stage sooner than later. he's not acting in the best interest of the united states. i would argue he's not acting in the best interest of israel. >> richard, do you think it has to be president biden to do that? i'm curious, what's your assessment of secretary blinken and his efforts so far to any gauche yat? >> joe biden has the heft in israel. cabinet figures at some point basically can deal with hostage-type things, deal with the my knew shah of policy. but if you're going to speak to israel, change their behavior either in the short run, how they conduct military operations, rethink long-term occupation, talk about a two-term solution, reining in settlement violence, that's not the job of the secretary of state. it's the job of the president of the united states. >> there's no doubt there's chaos right now. you look at gaza, the west bank, the region, obviously so many problems. richard, i believe in time it will take a while. there will be a solution there. before i let you go, what's your other position? your golf -- >> "morning joe" golf. >> chief golf. isn't there like usually some like some tournament around thanksgiving? what do they call it? don't they get like pros together to do scrambles or something like that? >> no. at the haas thanksgiving, there's the thanksgiving open. even though golf in the northeast has begun to close down and you have temporary greens, we get out and play no matter what the temperature or condition of the holes, we get out there and play nine holes. >> that's fascinating. let's talk football. you are also "morning joe's" new york giants' correspondent. how are the giants doing? >> the good news is we're halfway over the season and we're on our way to two or three draft choices. i think that's -- it's been a rough season for new york football, giants, jets. actually giants may be the single biggest disappointment this year maybe next to the pats. >> oh, my gosh. >> cheap shot. >> if one looks at giants' expectations versus performance, i don't think it gets any worse than this. >> no doubt about it. i expected more from the giants? from the giants coach. it's something where they haven't come through. mika and i talk about it every sunday. coming up, we have a look at the looming government shutdown. the white house has a proposal called the laddered continuing resolution. we'll explain what that is and if it has any chance of passing. plus new reporting on a closed door meeting where the republicans and the new house speaker discuss the impeachment inquiry into president biden. that's all straight ahead on "morning joe." straight ahead on "morning joe." ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ cargurus. shop. buy. sell. online. right now get a free footlong at subway. 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just saw that doesn't make any commentary, doesn't try to convince the viewer, the voter of anything. it uses the words of the opponent to drive the message home. i think this is -- it's a -- i think it's a brilliant ad. i think we'll see the same thing because the biden administration -- the biden campaign has already started doing it, using donald trump's own words on abortion against him, and you don't have to -- jonathan, i know you've heard this as well from the administration. we don't even have to talk about abortion. all we have to do is play a clip of donald trump after another clip of donald trump after another clip of donald trump saying he was the one who killed roe v. wade, he's the one who terminated women's choice, he's the one responsible for 10-year-old girls having to flee the state after having been raped. he's the one. he's taking credit for the horros of women bleeding out, not being able to get treated by their doctors because of what donald trump did. it's so powerful. the line from that veterans day ad that really brings it home is when donald trump is asking about a fallen american hero and he says i don't get it. what was in it for him. that explains everything, doesn't it, about donald trump. all you need to know about donald trump, about how selfish, how craven, how shallow, how un-american. let me say it. how un-american he is when it comes to the things he says about our fallen soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines. >> yeah. we also have had reporting about how trump didn't want veterans who had visible wounds or amputations to be part of the military ceremonies in his presence. he also said something similar to his chief of staff john kelly. his son was killed in combat overseas and trump said was it worth it or something along those lines. back to the abortion issue, joe, you're certainly right. we're not sure what last week's election meant for the campaign, but we know this, abortion is going to be front and center, reverend sharp upon. aides have been stressing to me in recent days, we're going to put this at the forefront and not let donald trump try to run away from it. he's tried at times. we're not going to let him do that. let's be clear. the president himself has admitted he's not super comfortable talking about abortion, but the vice president has stepped up and become a powerful voice. >> i believe she has been tremendous. when you look at the ohio vote where you had a vote earlier this year where they had to campaign and tell people that wanted to preserve women's right to choose, they said no. then they tried to shrewdly turn it now where you had to vote yes in this election last tuesday. so the people that were trying to preserve the women's right to choose had to do a real thorough job of telling voters they had convinced to vote no a few months ago and they voted yes and did it, which shows how the public is really, really on the side of reproduction rights. i think that is something. when you play the trump statements about what he has said and what he has done down there, that's easy. the problem is that his voters, many of them, are cult followers. we played them videos of him talking about grabbing a woman's privates. we're not going to them. we may deal with independents, people that are uncomfortable with other things. >> jon, i wanted to go back to something you said earlier. we've become so desensitized as a nation, no matter what side of the political spectrum you're on. january 6th, election denying, stealing documents, major indictments against this president doesn't seem to turn republicans in congress or double get the presidential candidates energized on the stage except for one, and i just -- how is it -- how is it that these republicans in congress and some in the senate and these presidential candidates can stand by and say nothing about a man who would say something like that about our veterans? what was -- about our dead -- our dead soldiers? what was in it for them, they're losers? like how do we go on without just asking about that? i know sort of like the litmus test is was the election stolen. there are a million ores. things like that that donald trump has said. the cruelty is the point. it leads to all authoritarianism. it leads to what he wants to do to our government. and if you don't want to believe that, that's fine, but let me ask you, republican in that audience or in congress or on the debate stage, can you stand by and support a man who would say that about our veterans? i want that question asked. why are they given a pass? >> they're not given a pass. >> they're not asked about it. it just goes by. >> they're always asked how can you support donald trump to be nominee, and the answer is they can't -- they can't say the truth. the fact is they're craven. they're craving for power, they're scared of donald trump's space, and they won't speak truth to power. we've seen it time and again. david french had a great op-ed about mike johnson, the new speaker saying, you know, i just follow what the bible says and david french says, no, you do the on so it f that because you got to power by lying. in fact, you embrace the big lie. that's what you're known the most for in the united states that you led ken paxton's lawsuit which was just a -- we talk about crazy conspiracy theories. mike johnson was so crechen for power, so desperate for power, that he actually embraced the big lie. nothing biblical about that. but as david french said, he did it because he craved power so much. that's -- again, that's why he was there. but, you know, elise jordan, you -- look, i really do. i think the white house is really onto something. i believe -- mika's right. there's so many things that don't break through, but using somebody's words against them, that breaks through, the simplicity of it breaks through all the noise. happened there, but you look at the issue of abortion. i believe it will be donald trump's own words that ultimately bring him down when historians look back and say why couldn't anybody stop this guy in the republican party? why did he maintain control of a party for so long, and h why couldn't they -- then they would say, what brought him down? i think it's going to be his words. you look at what abortion has done, what donald trump's actions have done for republicans, whether it's judicial candidates in wisconsin, whether it's senate and house candidates in virginia, whether it's a referendum in ohio, whether it's -- you know, from kentucky to ohio to wisconsin to kansas, all the way over to virginia, this is gutting republicans in the middle of america. donald trump's the guy that's bragging, i killed roe v. wade, i terminated a woman's right to choose. i think -- i think -- i think the biden team's onto something. i think this is what guts donald trump politically. >> and we saw what just happened in that last round of elections two years ago before the overturning of roe versus wade. i never would have thought abortion would have been driving voters the way it is now, and we see it. specifically we're looking at that subset of voters we're calling the dobbs dads. they're dads who are upset because of their daughters' freedoms and their wives' freedoms. >> it's about health care. >> health care and what the government can tell your doctor what it can or cannot do to provide life-saving energy care, and it's energized in a way we haven't seen before. if a tiny sliver of those pull off, you see that. we're going to be going to wisconsin soon and talking to some of those dobbs dads. >> elise, we bring you up a lot when you're not here. it seems every four years, every eighth years maybe we hear something in a focus group that's jarring, that points to a new direction. when john heilemann and mark bloomberg had a focus group and they were talking to a woman in new hampshire who looked less like a republican voter perhaps than anybody in a focus group i've ever seen and they asked her about donald trump and she said, he's one of us. everyone gasped around the table and said oh my god. that's the beginning of what we saw. i always go back to the guy in atlanta you talked to leading to the 2022 election. he bought into every theory. he was the most trumpy guy. and then you said, of course, you're for the overturning of roe v. wade. he said? what are you talking about? he said, i'm a man. what business is it of mine to tell a woman what to do with her body. we did the same thing. there was a stop around the table. we gasped. and we said, oh, my god, there's something there. and since seeing that on your focus group, we have seen it again in kansas, in kentucky, in maine, in -- i mean everywhere. in wisconsin, in virginia, in ohio, you name it. and in all of these red states we have seen votersic co-ing what the trump supporter said to you in that focus group in 2022. >> most men in america have gotten the memo. i heard that from democratic voters too. this is a woman's issue. i think the democrats have done a better job of it being a freedom issue than a government intrusion, and it's going to appeal to conservatives who are now alienated by this republican party's authoritarian turn and they want to don't get the government out of lives. >> women, men and others in america are seeing what's happened with the overturning of roe versus wade. people are nervous now if they have a child or get pregnant, depending what state they're in. that's the overturning of roe. women are afraid they may die or suffer from severe complications. guess what? there are membership that love them. parents need them. republicans are losing on this in a big way, thanks again to donald trump. here are more words the biden campaign can use against donald trump. he again praised authoritarian heads of state, claimed barack obama is still president of the united states, locked the savage beating of nancy pelosi's husband and e em co-ed the very dachlks rhetoric of some of the world's worst fascist leaders. >> the head of hungary, very strong, tough guy, viktor orban. did anybody hear? probably very pow e early. very clear. he said what do you expect from president obama? he said it's very simple, he should immediately resign and be replaced with president trump. you know, we had no terrorism during my administration. we only had nancy pelosi. she's a lunatic, a crazed lunatic. crazed lunatic. what the hell was going on with her husband? let's with draw that. let's with draw that statement. and she's got a wall around her home. obviously it didn't work very well. in honor of veterans day, we pledge to you we'll rule out the communist, marxist, fascist thugs who live like vermin within the confines of our country who lie, cheat, and steal on elections, the threat from afar is more grave than within. >> let's bring in jon meacham. john, i think he should probably pay some royalties mussolini's family trust, he talks about thing and he's lifting it from mussolini and other fascists from the past. >> and third reich. using the 1930s as an example of anything is a fraught enterprise. >> used to be. certainly -- jon, it used to be. it used to be. i think we can -- >> fair, fair. >> -- say at this point with what he's shown us, it's not so fraud anymore when you have a guy, again, praising violence. let me add to that what you just heard. praising violence against paul pelosi, praising dictators, xi, king jong-un, in this case he key spices a guy in western democracy, orban. i think we can talk about the 1930s now, can't we? >> here we go. because to call your opponents vermin, to dehumanize them is to not open the door but walk through the door to those ghastly kinds of crimes, and it gives me no pleasure to start off on a monday morning to start off with this, but i have a small plea to all of my republican friends -- and i live in tennessee, so that's redone dent. i've got republican friends. to all of those folks, think again. think anew about this. this is not about the age of the incumbent president. this is not about your opinion of the incouple bejt president of the united states. this is about your candidate's front-runner who is, in fact, as clearly as you can do it is putting american democracy, human rights, the rule of law below his own ambition. and the other thing is, it looked to me as if he were reading that off the prompter, right? >> let me -- >> he wasn't just popping off. >> no, he wasn't just popping off. look at this. carlos had an op-ed on sunday with a headline that jarred a lot of people. a trump/biden rematch is exactly what the election needs. let me read this to you. it brings into sharp relief how the soul of america is on the ballot in 2024 pchlt trump is running as an overtly authoritarian candidate. the illusion of pichbts, on a man. he is dismissive unless he can harness it to his own benefits. the three elections except when they produce the victories he likes, he's called for the termination of the constitution based on persistent claims of 2020 electoral frautd, and according to "the washington post" he released a new paint against the political aven jans. he news what he is, what he speak. what you have said. this is about the soul of america. i aren't don't think it's an overstatement. let's go back from the 1930s to 1864. i would be hard-pressed to find an election that matters more than an election of 1864 whereas an abraham lincoln loss would have preserved slavery in america. >> absolutely. the 17th president of the united states would have been george mcclellan, there would have been a piece that would have smoked slavery and endured into 2020. that was a sri tall and tell skpal. that i don't think there's any -- nobody's fooling us. nobody's sneaking up on us. the front-runner for the republican nomination is just -- he should play it again. he just told us, right -- this is very clear. and because there are certain partisan brains and partisan instincts and people, you know, can talk -- we all know this. we can all talk ourselves into dam near anything we really wanted to, right? we're all really good and reprogramming in ta past itable way. we have to resist it, and it's really, really hard. i'm not pretending it's easy. i think it's a matter of patriotism. i think it's a matter of constitutionalism that you keep this man out of the presidency of the united states. and the fact that i have to -- we have to have this conversation yesterday again is not a great sign, right? it's not hyperbolic. just listen to what he says. listen to what he says. and what you have have there is the language of hate, the han garage that leads to cataclysm. i use that very provide ed. >> jon when we talked about the soul of america and the lincoln on manns passion and the talk of slave we wrould have been added to the century, we lot a lost of what came out of tl justice movement. we've seen affirm tev action overturned by donald trump.'re they had rallied, moved toward actually being changed now that would be finished off if trump would to be re-elect. it has already happened. we're seeing voting righting being suspended. >> you're right. it's happening. >> this is not music. you're right, reverend. look, the american experiment is as flawed and fallible as you can imagine. it's as flawed and fallible as we are. it's going to have our virtues, but lord knows it's also going to have our advice frms that's why it's going to be a very important cloised period. what's on the ballot is a constitutional order of checks and balances that for all of its flaws helped produce those social moments. it took us too long, of course, but it created a more perfect union. you take away the constitution -- i say this to my friends in. by am. what makes you think any contract is safe? why is oligarchy out? you may think it's a hysterical conversation on a monday morning, but you're wrong. look at it. take it seriously. and remember what's on the ballot here is the capacity of the united states of america to endure with a commitment to do declaration of independence, and if you take it away, i don't know how we get it back. >> look at what he's said. look at what he's done. we have proof. we have proof now with a full trump presidency would be. they're planning for the next historical presidency. jon meacham, thank you very much. there's the impeachment inier, government shutdown looming and the other republican candidates. pick your issue. >> an extraordinary amount ahead of the white house. we're in the middle east. you have the ongoing war in you crepe. the president heads to san francisco for a meeting as well. the biden administration will say this. this is an and extend chal threat. take him at his word what he says, the rhetoric he uses about immigrants, the media, calling us the even enemy of the people, and the violent rhetoric he's peppering into his statements more and more and more. i've said this on the show more and more and more. it keeps happening. they say they are never been more concerned for political violence, that trump will inspire more of his supporters to do it, because he's normalizing the idea that we saw that that is acceptable and could continue. >> we saw this in 2016 when he said to beat the hell out of people. he praised the person who beat up a reporter who asked about health care reform. you're right. calling the press enemy of the people, he borrowed that from stalin. he said it too easily demonized political opponents. of course, we talk about vermin and hitler and mussolini's use of that, so, yeah, look at his words. we go back to what i said at the top of this hour. the biden administration put on a very effective ad for veterans day that just used donald trump's own words against him. we're going to see that on a lot of issues including abortion. and before we go to break, i want to -- i want to show you from "the new york times" this weekend erica johns' 1973 novel, groundbreaking novel, and, of course, molly, we have molly on the show all the time. this is quite something. speaking about feminism and women's rights, i remember seeing that title and asking my mom if i should read the book to be more comfortable flyer in the air. she told me, that's all right, son, why don't you read your bible and go back to your room. but 50 years later, a groundbreaking novel. >> absolutely. >> and achievement. the person that we know as molly's mom. >> molly's mom. molly had a post about it. it was so interesting. she talked how her life is defined by this book but the fame that her mom had because of it and how fleeting and in some ways painful it can be. it's very touching. we love molly. >> very touching. still ahead on "morning joe," pete aguilar joins the conversation. we'll talk about the latest fight in congress with yet another looming shutdown. and later what the u.s. knows about unidentified aerial phenomena. 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(vo) whichever. get your competitve offer at opendoor.com. 32 past the hour on capitol hill. mike johnson is indicating that's insufficient evidence at the moment to begin formal impeachment proceedings against president biden. that's according to "the washington post" after meeting behind closed doors with gp moderates. meanwhile with just four days until a potential government shutdown, the gop passed a stopgap fund. they're looking at a two-step resolution. what does that all mean? joining us now congressman joe aguilar out of california. are republicans going to lead outout of this? what is a two-step opportunity? >> it means two steps to shut the government down in the future. that's kind of their plan here. but we're still trying to figure this out and where they want to go, but we have been very clear that we don't want steep cuts in government funding and we don't want abortion care. they've done all of that among the appropriation fields, committee. they've done that each and every time. for them to step back, this is a new strategy because they're continuing fight themselves on where they go and how they fund government. >> can you see a way forward with especially mike johnson in the white house and a way to avoid a shutdown? >> we hope so. we hope know it's going to take both parties. that's always been the case. that was the case a few weeks ago when the republicans got rid of the last speaker. by the way, one of the cardinal sins that the far right had said, the extreme right had said, he passed a continues resolution with democratic votes. it's always going to take democratic votes to fund the government. the sooner our colleagues work on these issues with us, the better off we'll be. it takes a while to shift though. >> he says he doesn't think there's sufficient evidence right now to proceed with the impeachment inquiry with president biden. at the same time we saw congressman comer put out subpoenas for the president's brother, the president's son to testify in the next couple of weeks. what do we make of this, and do we with think the speaker is punting? >> i think he's trying to appease the donald trump wing of the party. i think that's what they're doing. he said the quiet part out loud. he said because of the president's poll ratings we don't need to continue. this has always been the case. it's about weakening your political opponents. it's not about seeking evidence or what's the truth or democracy or government. he said opponents. >> congressman, ronna mcdaniel was on "meet the press" yesterday where moderator kristen welker asked if the republican party's stance on abortion was a losing one. >> we have to talk compassionately. we can't attack women. we have to define ourselves before the democrats define us. if you're dinging yourself into a hole, you're going to lose. if you go on television and tell everyone, we're all compassionate. but at a time like this can't we say stop abortion at 15 weeks when the baby feels pain. these are things we can win on, but we have to uc ta about it, and you can't hide in aern coer and think abortion is going to be an issue. $350 million in 2020 was spent on this issue. we saw it in ohio and virginia. there are lessons we have to take. >> what do you make what she said there that democrats are extreme on the issue of abortion which we also, i think, need to use the word women's health care when we talk about abortion because, again, their stereotype it. >> absolutely. we saw this play out in virginia, exactly what the chairwoman had mentioned. that exact position was played out in virginia and they lost races up and down the ballot on that message alone. the american public had been very clear. they want women to have the reproductive freedom to make their own health care decisions, period, across the state's ballot referendums that are succeeded because they're doing just that. part of what we're going to talk about over the next 12 months is our desire to ensure that is the law of the land, that we protect women's reproductive care. >> congressman talk about one within of the real problems that when you deal with the so-called freedom caucus of the far right, some of them have goals like around women's health care that are pro or con. but the goal is they don't want to see government really function or work and they're disrupters no matter what, and how you do bring in enough people that unite in that to solve this problem because some people they want to see the government shut down. so they can operate into chaos. >> that's exactly true, rev. that group continues to grow and win elections in republican primaries. we saw this play out when speaker mccarthy was negotiating with most of the scream members of his parties, when he moenged to vacate the rule which cost him his job. he also put some of the numbers on the -- he needed to put them on the rules committee, give them prominent positions and that's been part of it. it's been fueling the chaos because some folks don't want it to get there. the infrastructure bill and all the things they want to complete, they just don't want to governor. >> congressman pete aguilar, thanks very much for being on the show. nice to be you. coming up, pan lay torres joins us. pablo compares it to the shutdown like a winning star. we're back in two minutes. a winr we're back in two minutes. minchew's going to throw. minchew. buying time. flips it out for dobbs. >> starting to believe like we started to, anything can happen. >> they're playing. it's showtime. as montgomery gets it to the secondary. he's inside the 40. he's got to block upper ahead. >> touchdowns on their last two possessions. >> uh-oh, uh-oh, the front here picked off and taken back by newsom. >> stroud on first and ten. caught on the play. >> here comes jeffrey simmons may field able to get it to the right. he's got room to run. inside the five, 20, 10, 5 -- >> one-on-one, george kittle, good-bye. a stepping up, dobbs. dobbs trying to shake his way to the open. oh, play fake. then the chip down. stumbled. that gives walker space and now walker with extra space. down the sideline. he's gone. touchdown. >> one last chance for the packers. love throws. end zone, intercepted, and it's over. >> those were some of the biggest plays from across the nfl yesterday. in addition to the plays that mattered, we also brought you one from the 10-6 loss, patriots in germany. joining us now the host of pablo torre. let's not talk about the patriots please. >> no more exploiting of the patriots? >> no. >> your prophesy may air in another football. >> let's talk about football. two pop stars, texans and the browns. >> let's go with the texans. for me watching the bengals and the texans, there's no game i was willing to write off in the country. these are two sorry teams with sorry quarterbacks. you have cj stroud, number two peck proving he should have been the number one overall pick. it's hard for mimi to make a rags to riches story of a guy who went to ohio who was this good who was not supposed to be as good a rookie as we've ever seen. when he beats joe burrow, it's an incredible thing. this was meant to be a story that, okay, maybe they're the best team. cj stroud coming out of nowhere literally speaking to do this to them? look, apologies to michelin stars. but this rivalry is like a restaurant i want to eat at now despite the fact there's a lot of health code violations in that irpast. >> they've got the c-rating on their window. >> b for best if you frame it that way. >> the browns who a lot of people are rooting for and has not, frankly, been very good were down and they beat lamar jackson at home. >> yeah. be wary of riding on the coattails of a man who i think was the subject of the most cynical in sports. the fact is they felt really good when he was bad and it feels even worse, even worse now that he is good because ravens were supposed to be better than this, and now you get the reality of i don't know what's happening in the nfl anymore, and i think attaching moral importance is always dangerous, but this was maybe the most uncomfortable game to watch because of that. >> pablo, the very definition of we don't know what to expect in the nfl anymore, the detroit lions have become really, really good. they won a thriller yesterday against the chargers. >> yeah. the detroit lions are a team you can feel about it. they went for it on fourth and one. dan campbell is a coach that became famous, let's remember, because he talked about eating people's knee caps and now he's eating the rest of the week. the detroit lions, a sad sack organization dated back decades and decades winning a shoot-out. this is one of those stories if detroit is feeling super bowl, i don't necessarily blame them. they have something going on. i don't know how to explain it except they're 7-2 and everybody is stupidly dominant. we covered a story with richard haass. the jets continued their struggles last night against the raiders. >> congratulations on the most low shot i think i've ever heard about in this sport. the jets are struggling because aaron rodgers tore his achilles and now they don't have a quarterback because zach wilson, their would-be number twoing pick star is in the wordings of -- i'll use spanish -- besuro. you could have picks someone off the street to be better. josh of the vikings did that. a guy who had no playbook is much better than zach because they don't have a quarterback good enough. >> there you go. the chiefs were off. >> its still went viral. >> oi, my god. it's so good he's getting that coverage now. >> we're exporting taylor swift and travis kelce all across the world. >> pablo torre always finds it out. always great to see you. coming up, think you have evidence of a clandestine u.s. government ufo program? now there's a forum for that. there's a new online tool related to ufos. our next guest explores the u.s. government's search for alien life. we'll dig into that straight ahead on "morning joe." 'll dig t ahead on "morning joe. there's a whole fleet of them. my gosh. they're all going against the wind. the wind is 120 knots to the west. >> look at that thing! >> it's rotating. >> that was a video released by the department of defense that shows a navy jet crew's encounter with an unidentified aerial phenomenon. the government has been releasing more videos like these as part of a new office working to detect these sightings and then share information with the public. joining us now, "new york times" best-selling author garrett mcgraph. his new book is "ufo: the inside story of the u.s. government's search for alien life here and out there." good to have you back. >> thanks for having me. >> congratulations on the book. i want to understand what you've done here. broken into three parts, the saucer age, the space age, and the interstellar age. what does that mean? what are you looking at? and is there life out there? >> yeah, so the math is on the side of the aliens, and that's one of the, like, biggest transformations in astronomy and science in the last 20 years. many the 1990s, we did not know that there was a single other planet outside of our solar system. we now believe effectively every star in the universe has habitable planets. there are roughly a sextillion habitable planets. a thousand trillion. >> okay. >> so life could be rare, but do you really think it's a one in sextillion chance? this book tries to weave together sort of twinning threads of the u.s. military's hunt for ufos here, which dates back to the early days of the cold war, the dawn of the flying saucer age, 1947, roswell, sort of incidents people are familiar with, and then the sort of evolving astronomy science that shows that life is probably actually quite common out there across the universe. >> garrett, we have a sextillion question to you. >> we can apply that to the new york jets. >> yes. >> it does seem like there's been a really sharp increase in people's thinking. some could be attributable to people having cameras. it also seems like the government is way more north coming about these things. what do you make of that? >> that's what got me interested in this subject. you now see sort of serious people talking seriously about this subject. i sort of started this book in my mind december of 2020, john brennan, he gave this interview to the economist journalist where he says basically there's something flying around up there, we don't know what it is, and it puzzles me. i was like, you know, john brennan had just wrapped up the better part of a decade as white house adviser. there weren't many things that puzzled john brennan. >> yeah. >> what do you think is the most credible sighting or instance that you've come across of a ufo? >> so part of the challenge is they're real. like, all they are are an unidentified flying october. and i think they sort of broadly break down in four categories. you have adversary technology being tested against us, chinese drones, russian drones. >> you never know, right? >> you have a bunch of sort of weird sky clutter flying around up there. that's basically what we ended up with with the chinese spy balloon in february. the government said there's a bunch of stuff up there, let's shoot it all down. them you have the weird categories, and i think that is a mix of atmospheric, meteorological, and astronomical phenomenon that we don't understand. and then i think, and this is the really weird stuff, i think that there's physics that we don't understand yet that are going to the reveal some chunk of what the answer to uaps and ufos actually are. >> on that physics spot, do you think that government, now that they are becoming, as you talk about in the book, more open to talking about the existence of ufos, do you think government will get to the point of trying to explore exactly what these ufos are going back to, what kind of life? we may not understand it as our kind of life. when do we start making it real rather than speculating on what it could be? >> yeah. that can be a part of this really interesting shift in the last couple years, sort of the u.s. government trying to talk more openly about this. to me, though, there is a government cover-up about ufos. it's just not the one that most people think it is. and the government, i think, at the end of the day, is covering up its ignorance about what this phenomenon actually is. it's not that there's a secret hanger somewhere. john brennan is right, that there's weird stuff up there, it puzzles us, we don't know what it is, and the government sort of is trying to not tell us what it fundamentally doesn't know. >> mika, i think if the government was covering this up, trump would have just blurted it out. >> of course. or he's got the documents down at mar-a-lago talking about them. no. do we get closer to knowing by reading this book? >> i think you do, and i think that the dawning math and the evolution of sort of what we are going to discover in the next couple of decades is going to fundamentally transform the way we think about ourselves and our cosmic consciousness. >> "ufo: the inside story of the u.s. government's search for alien life here and out there." garrett graff, nice to see you. >> thank you. still ahead, updates on two big stories overseas, a major shake-up in the british government and some potential movement on the hostages held by hamas. plus, a look at robert f. kennedy jr.'s bid for the presidency. could he win enough voters to sway the race? 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[dog barks] no it's just a bunny! only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ they said, sir, do you want a trial with or without cameras? most people would say no. i said the opposite. i want this trial to be seen by everybody in the world. the prosecution wishes to continue this travesty. i want sunlight. that's a nice way of saying it. isn't that pretty? i want sunlight. i want everything exposed to the public, and let's let the public decide because i want cameras in every inch of that courthouse. >> careful what you wish for? >> no, he doesn't. >> a lot to cover from that speech from saturday, including some frightening comments from the front-runner in the republican primary. meanwhile, donald trump's defense team will present its case in the civil fraud trial. we'll tell you who is taking the stand later today in new york. also ahead, it appears the new house speaker is not ready to move forward with the impeachment inquiry into president biden. we'll go through that new reporting. plus, we'll play for you the surprise announcement from republican senator tim scott, one of the five candidates who was just on the debate stage last week. we'll also bring to you the very latest out of israel and gaza. good monday morning to you. it is november 13th, and with us, we have the host of "way too early," jonathan lemire, former aid to the george w. bush white house and state department's elise jordan, president emeritus of the council on foreign relations, richard haass is here, president of the national action network and host of msnbc's "politics nax," reverend al sharpton, founder of the conservative website the bulwark, charlie sykes, and co-founder and ceo of axios, jim vandehei is here. joe, a lot of scary stuff from donald trump over the weekend. >> he just reveals more about himself. "the washington post" of course reported a few i guess last week that donald trump basically was making a list and said if he were elected president of the united states he would use his position as president and start going after democrats, start going after political enemies, start going after -- and it sounded like arresting even his former lawyers who no longer defend him. so, you have all that talk, but you've always had this fascist talk coming from him. it was just a week or two ago that the anti-defamation league and many others were concerned when he was talking about immigrants, quote, poisoning the blood of america. and of course that's again -- it just sort of calls for racial purity, which, of course, hmm, i find absolutely fascinating since we are a nation of immigrants. >> yeah. >> i mean, donald trump, as donald trump himself knows, what were they called? the drumps? what was his last name? i think it was the drumpfs came here from germany when just having a name like that and being from germany was seen as anti-american and seen as poisoning the bloodstream of america. now we're just going full-on hit hitler talking about vermin. and of course it's so interesting. i don't know who his spokesperson is, but, you know, one of these fat white boys that likes to talk tuckus, they're triggered, we will crush them. their lives will be crushed. so, you have a bunch of weak people, a bunch of fat white pete boys, a bunch of phony pop you lipss that are going around talking tough and unfortunately making threats that we, those of us who love democracy, those of us who actually believe in the american experiment all these years later, have to be worried about. >> yeah. >> and you look -- again, you look at the language of donald trump, you look at what donald trump says he's going to do, and you go back to maya angelou's saying that when somebody tells you who they are, believe them the first time. >> yeah. >> we have to believe him, and we also have to believe that this is the most important election probably since 1864. >> we try to call him out on the lies he puts out there or not cover frivolous stuff that he says that is lies. but in this case, you have to look. amid a rise in anti-semitism across the united states, donald trump echoed the dangerous language of infamous fascist leaders. in a social media post on saturday, veterans day, then again at a rally later in the day, trump vowed to root out the, quote, vermin within the country. take a look. >> in honor of our great veterans on veteran ps day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communist, marxist, fascist, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. >> it's really unbelievable what he says. carlos lazada in "the new york times" this weekend wrote, "trump is running as an overtly authoritarian candidate. the illusion of adults in the rooms of the man molded by the office long gone, he's dismissive of the law, exempt when he can harness it for his own benefit of open expression, except when it fawns all over him of free elections exempt when it produces the results that he liked. he has called for the term napgs of the constitution based on his persistent claims of the 2020 electoral fraud. and in the new term, he old use the justice department as an instrument of vengeance against political opponents. we know who trump is and what he offers." that's -- jim vandehei, that's a pretty good summary of a guy who is running as an authoritarian. >> no doubt. and i think what you talked about earlier is the most important point. we always get sidetracked sometimes by the rhetoric that trump use us. he's being very, very specific with us about what he's going to do. "the new york times" has done a fabulous series with johnny swan, charlie salve i believe, detailing that, and everybody watching this should look at it because it's using his words to show what a second term would look like. we have reporting this morning that what's different if he wins, he'll come into office with an army of 40,000 to 50,000 people ready to staff the government. he's not going to have the restraints of cabinet officials who disagree with him. he's going to do everything he can to punch anybody whose professional staff, who's been there a long time, and he's going to have a year's worth of vetting. they're doing surveys of these people, asking about their ideology, books they've read. name one figure who you believe captures your spirit, your political philosophy. i think the obvious answer for a lot of them will be trump. if you answer trump, you pass this loyalty test, then they can put you into the bowels of government where the action happens. it's one thing to have rhetoric. it's another thing to take the department of homeland security, the department of defense, the department of justice, and put in there people who believe what trump believes so that you can do the things that he says he's going to do. so, i wouldn't just assume he's saying these things that it's bombast, he'll come in hellbent on doing it. and this time there will be a much more more organized government to be able to do it, which is why i think this is the most important election of our lifetime, because the contrast is massive, and i think both sides would come in with teams ready to do what they want to do. >> richard haass, i mean, you've seen this around the world. you've seen this from people like orrbonn, what he's done, where he's run off any press that opposes him. he started by doing whether it's going after them for bogus tax reasons. he's regulated them out of business. he's run them out of hungary, and then they've taken over, and the state runs -- again, the state runs media. so he doesn't have opponents. he's done the same to his political opponents. so you've seen this threat before, but, again, with donald trump, you take the fcc. he said he's going to bring all of that power into the white house so he can decide what newspapers, what tv shows, what networks he likes, what networks he doesn't like, and then, you know, take them off the air. and, again, this, along with terminating the constitution, this is what he is promising already. >> we see it in places like hungary, in places like turkey. it's interesting, joe. we're living in a time where the big foreign policies are the invasions of democrats is like russia against ukraine and hamas against israel. but the history of democracy -- the one thing donald trump said that was right is the greatest threat to democracy are not external invasion. they're internal erosion of democratic restraints, of institutions, of norms, of laws. and that's what donald trump remits. as great a threat as we have from china, russia, you name it, the real threat to this country is from within, and i think you just heard it. >> speaking of orbon, donald trump praised hungary's authoritarian president, something that's become a staple of trump's recent speeches. and then went off teleprompter, again suggested barack obama is still the president of the united states. >> the head of hungary, a very tough, strong guy, victor orbon. did anybody hear of him? considered very powerful. they were interviewing him two weeks ago, and they said what would you alleged vise president obama -- the whole world seems to be exploding and imploding? he says it's very simple. he should immediately resign and they should replace him with president trump. >> yeah. >> okay. >> charlie, i don't know how to break this to donald, but he keeps getting confused about who's the president of the united states. in fact, "the washington post" and "the new york times" both have had articles out over the past couple days about how now republican opponents are starting to take all of the times trump has gotten lost on stage, his gaffes, his confusions, the fact he doesn't know who the president of the united states is, keeps going to a guy who was last elected as president over a decade ago, and now republicans are going after all the gaffes and all of the confusion that this poor old guy is having. >> yeah. i mean, there have been a series of gaffes, but i think it's a mistake to focus on those. we ought to focus on what he is telling us he intends to do. i mean, to jim's point, on a daily basis, donald trump is laying out what trump 2.0 would be. and his praise of hungary's president, he may have gotten the presidents wrong, but the situation is not the gaffe. it's his deep admiration, his ongoing admiration for the world's authoritarian thugs, his admiration for mao, for president xi and vladimir putin, his intents to turn the government into a weapon of revenge and retribution. the plans, the detailed plans for massive deportations and concentration camps, i mean, this is one of those moments where we have to distinguish between the white noise and the blinking red flares that are going up every time. this man speaks. so, donald trump is, in fact -- i mean, we can regard him as the orange clown, but he's deadly serious here. i mean, a clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower. and donald trump is escalating his rhetoric on a regular basis. you would think that having wrapped up the nomination, he might try to be a little more reasonable, move toward the center. in fact, what he's saying is no, what i really want to do is i am an authoritarian, i am an election denier, and this is what i plan to do to the federal government and the kons tupgs -- constitutional norms. i think we need to take him deadly seriously. >> absolutely. we've already seen what he tried to do the end of the last election. stim thinks he won that. the biggest news of course out of all of this overarching are trump's plans to create an authoritarian government, to change this democracy out of a democracy. there is good reporting on those plans and the people he plans to bring in, the data he's putting together. rev, i'm just curious if you've noticed this obsession with obama and wonder if there's something there. i mean, president obama has promised president biden any support that he needs in the campaign. and we know where it all began with obama and donald trump and everything about the birth c-a-t and other things he tried to float out there. is there some sort of subtle obsession with obama here coming out? this is the fifth time maybe he's -- >> i don't think it's subtle. >> okay. >> i think it is an obsession. it's a clear obsession. >> what is it? >> let's remember, donald trump went from a failed tv reality star into politics as the face of the birther movement. >> right. >> trying to gear up this anti-obama with real race-tinged implications. >> right. >> it's what brought him to the party. and i think that obsession has never left him. he sees biden as immaterial. it's also us against them with all of the racial implications of that. and i think subconsciously he's playing to that with his audience. we're really running against them, but we're running against obama. he just doesn't have the mental discipline to hold back and remember that it's biden he's running against because he's really focused on them. that's where the vermin thing comes from. that's where everything he's saying running as an autocrat comes from. we have to stop them. i'm going to line them up, i'm going to mow them down, lock them up. it's them against us. and obama, that black president, is exactly what the problem is. i don't think it's a subtle or mindless obsession at all. i think that's who he is. >> on the gaffes, it's probably on the category of too little, too late, but governor desantis's campaign is trying to amplify trump's misstatements in recent weeks. there aren't many things the biden and desantis campaigns agree on, but the biden campaign retweets it. if you haven't read "the new york times" piece over the weekend, please do, about what trump sayening he'll outline for a second term on immigration. it is building camps. it is raids. it is sweeps. it is trying to change the citizenship definition in united states for birthright citizenship, saying children born to immigrants shouldn't be considered united states citizens. and there's no guard rail anymore, no mattis, no kelly, just pure loyalists. nobody to stop him. >> that's what scares me. we really got lucky that he was so ineffective and had so many blundering people appointed. and he didn't have the real hardcore people in place to, you know, tear open the bureaucracy. but this go-around, i'm not so sure. you look at the how the heritage foundation is so involved in this push, and they're adding their institutional heft to it. and that's really concerning. if anyone wants to consider heritage mainstream, if they're processing this kind of federal personnel system, that's really called into question. >> oh, my god. the heritage foundation used to be mainstream for conservatives after ronald reagan got elected. that's really where so much of those ideas got elected. there is nothing reaganesque about this heritage foundation. i'm sure charlie could go on about that for quite some time. we'll talk about that in a little bit. jim vandehei, i want to go back to you and say donald trump is -- he's planning it all out, and the problem is, when he starts talking about these counts for illegal immigrants, he's preying upon something that middle-class voters, that swing voters, that independent voters are actually worried about, and that is the chaos at the southern border. >> yeah. i mean, you listen to this conversation and you look at the polls. there's a lot of people who are very susceptible to this, a lot of people out there who feel like the immigration laws are way too loose and that the effects of that are bad for society. you look at the polls on who do you trust on immigration. he crushes joe biden. who do you trust on crime? he crushes joe biden. so, we should make no mistake that there is 50%-plus of the country that's very, very open to this message. and i think reason to listen to what he says and to understand that he's going to be way more ready is there's at least a 50/50 chance he can win the presidency, no matter how ludicrous some people might think that is. the numbers are unmistakable. and i think that's why the work that the heritage foundation -- yes, this is not the ronald reagan heritage foundation, but this isn't the ronald reagan party anymore. the party is very much steve miller and donald trump, at least the apparatus. and that's what's different this time around. you'll have think tanks. you'll have manpower. you'll have ideas. you're going to have lawyers. you're going to have bureaucrats. one of the things they talked about doing that's alarming people at dod, they want to go through and scrub the generals and the flag officers and figure out are they sufficiently loyal. why do they want to do that? because some of the greatest handcuffs that were improsed on trump in the latter days of his presidency were by people like general miley and others and the dod saying we're not going to do that, we will not do these things. what happens when you have 40,000, 50,000 people in the positions that make things happen in government that say, hell, yeah, i'm with you on that? then things actually get done. it's not just rhetoric. it's action. it would be a radical shift in the direction of the country, doing things with the government, viewing laws in ways that have not been done and not been viewed under the previous presidents of the united states. >> we'll play for you one more moment from that speech in new hampshire where trump, again, mocked the husband of nancy pelosi for being savagely beaten. and some breaking news out of the uk. a reshuffling of the current prime minister's cabinet. he has a former prime minister returning to the government. major news that broke just before if show started. we'll tell you what that is. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. (christmas music) ( ♪♪ ) weathertech gift cards have the power to wow everyone on your holiday list. offering a variety of american made products... weathertech! nice! like floorliners... cargo liner... seat protector... boot tray... cupfone... sink mat... pet feeding system... anti-fatigue comfortmat...and more. order the weathertech gift card instantly for the perfect gift at weathertech.com. you know, we had no terror during my administration. the only terror we had was nancy pelosi, who's a crazed lunatic. she's a lunatic. she is a crazed lunatic. what the hell was going on with her husband? let's not ask. let's not ask. i'll withdraw that statement. by the way, she's got a wall around her house. obviously, in that case, it didn't work very well. >> what the hell happened to nancy pelosi's husband? he -- he -- a guy in his 80s almost got beat on the death by somebody that fed in to donald trump's crazed conspiracy theories. that's what happened to nancy pelosi's husband, paul. he suffered grievous harm, grievous injury, and -- you know, charlie sykes, this is just -- again, it's glorification of violence. i've gotten quite impatient over the past year with professors wringing their hands, going, oh, it's not fascism, oh, it's not this. really? i mean, it is so hard to separate -- you know, you look at the acts of mussolini, who actually rose to power when -- what did they do? they charged government buildings. what did mussolini talk about? poisoning the blood of italy with jews and with immigrants and with gypsies. i mean, you can go down the list. and here you have the glorification, the mocking, the ridiculing of a man in his 80s being almost beaten to death. and donald trump is laughing about it. and we know who he is. but who are the people in the audience who are laughing, who are cheering, who are applauding the brutal assault and almost killing of a man in his 80s? who are those people? >> yeah. this is the scary part, isn't it, the fact that as jim points out this taps into something. this is sick stuff, but it is consistent. donald trump has a fetish for violence. he's encouraging the fetish for violence. one of the themes that runs through some of the things we've been talking about is his real appetite for brutality and toward cruelty. during that speech, he once again talked about his enthusiasm for the immediate death penalty. this is something that he has cultivated, and the fact that it gives millions of americans a dopamine hit or even more americans look at that and go, okay, maybe what america needs is a strong man, a strong man who is going to punch our enemies in the face. and also what's interesting is the self-contra discrimination, because donald trump says during his presidency there were no acts of terror. well, of course there were. they were domestic acts of terror. so, earlier in the show you played the clip where he said the greatest threat to america doesn't come from abroad, it comes from within. and that's true. and he is pouring kerosene on the fire, telling americans the real enemy is not abroad, that the real enemy is your fellow americans. look around you. those are the people that are the vermin. those are the people that we must attack. those are the people that we must -- that we must fight against. and that is dangerous. but it is this cultivation of brutality and this fetish for violence that is really alarming, but it's really central to what he is selling right now. >> yes. it is. >> jonathan, talk about that, if you, will because he has for some time -- you know, after the hellacious terror attack against israel and the taking of hostages, he started calling the thugs that beat cops up on january 6th, started calling them hostages. but he's used violent language throughout his presidency and throughout his post presidency. and it continues. and, again, as jim says and charlie says, it's only intensifying. it's almost like. he's saying, okay, i'm going to run on this, i'm going to run being an open authoritarian who praises orbon, praises putin, calls him brilliant, praises xi, praises hezbollah, saying they're very smart. again, it's almost like he's -- not almost like, he is, he's tearing down all boundaries between good and bad, right and wrong, democracy and authoritarianism, and it's intensifying by the day. >> and we should take him at his word. this is what he will do in a second term. of course we can trace this back to the 2016 campaign, the violent rhetoric, where he would usual his supporters to beat up protesters at his events. we know that he considered unleashing the military on protesters during -- in the george floyd in 2020, the uprising, the black lives matter movement. we know in terms of what he would do next time around, we have touched upon the immigration policy, that his aides are open about invoking the insurrection act on inauguration day if he were to win again to try to quell protests, people trying to stand up against him. all those dictators you mentioned, kim jong-un, as well, he uses them as role mold els here. his rhetoric has grown increasingly more erratic but also increasingly more violent. and when he does, he gets cheers from the crowd. >> right. >> and he has stood with the january 6th rioters. he has appeared with their choir of convicts, and he has said he would pardon them, almost all of them, and deem them hostages, mika. i want also very clear where a trump presidency would go were he to win again. >> and he's using all these trials and these serious 91 counts against him, serious charges, using them to gain more traction with his following as the victim. coming up, most believe robert f. kennedy doesn't have a real shot of winning the white house, but that doesn't mean he couldn't change the outcome of the race. we'll look at the polling straight ahead. with cirkul, your water is deliciously flavored at the turn of a dial, with zero sugar and zero calories. and cirkul has over 40 flavors, so your water can be as unique as you are. try cirkul. your water, your way. now with even more flavors. availabl winkcirku while much was made of last week's "new york times" poll that found donald trump leading president joe biden in five of six battleground states won by then-candidate biden in the last election, it's worth noting another takeaway from that poll, the effect one independent candidate is having. when the poll included robert f. kennedy junior as an option, nearly one-quarter said they would support him according to an analysis by "the new york times." voters who dislike both major party candidates, known as double haters, have been instrumental in the outcomes of the last two presidential elections. and there are now more than twice as many of them as there were four years ago. jim vandehei, i think the way this is leaning seems to be surprising some. >> yeah. i mean, i think it's maybe less to do with kennedy himself and much more to do with the double hatred. the flipside of trump having this really solid base is that 60%-plus don't want him to run, don't want him to win. >> right. >> remember, people aren't data points. people are humans. when you're scared, some people respond to strength, and that's probably the play that he has. but there's just a lot of unhappy people out there, both with joe biden and donald trump. they want something else. so, when somebody like kennedy comes along, who is articulate, controversial, but articulate, you can see people gravitating towards him. it probably cuts, i think at the end of the day, more against biden than it does trump, but i think it speaks to the uncertainty out there. i think it really speaks to this hunger. we've talked about it. i still think we spend a little bit too much time on kind of the crazies on both sides, and i think 70% of most people out there are normal, and i think normal people would like a normal president. they would like something different. they would like something with a different tone and maybe different policies, and that's what kennedy will try to tap into. the fact he's at 24%, something is happening. coming up, we'll get to israel. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu signals a potential deal to free more hostages from hamas. we'll show you what he had to say on "meet the press" and get reaction from richard haass. always feeling like you "gotta go"? tired of pads? visit findrealrelief.com to connect with a bladder or bowel specialist who can help get your life back with axonics therapy. don't let leaks control your life! ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪♪ ) with the push of a button, constant contact's ai tools help you know what to say, even when you don't. hi! constant contact. helping the small stand tall. breaking news out of the united kingdom where former prime minister david cameron is back in government amid a reshuffling of the cabinet. he was seen at 10 downing street today to take over as britain's new foreign secretary. it just feels so much like 2011 all over again. the move follows the firing of a cabinet member. of course cameron served as uk prime minister from 2010 to 2016, and the current foreign secretary will move into braverman's role, of course, fleet street, as well as the paper of record for "morning joe," "the new york post," crushed that the former prime minister selected was not boris johnson. more on that later. richard haass, fascinating developments for a prime ministership that certainly has read the polls. they're going to get crushed in the next election. we're starting to see a dramatic reshuffling of the cabinet. this is about as dramatic as it gets, right? >> to get rid of the former home secretary -- she was, if you will, going back to our previous conversation, she's the torry crazy. she wrote that op-ed and knew she would get booted. she's positioning herself for a longer-term bid in the leadership party. bringing cameron in is, quote, unquote, bringing the grown-ups back in, a way for the torrys to staunch the bleeding heading into an election where the polls are heavily against them. david cameron also lit the fuse on brexit. there's nobody there like here who hasn't had to adjust given the politics. >> it is of course, mika, the labor party right now. it's light-years ahead in polls of the torrys if there were an election tomorrow. there would be a massive landslide. getting back to the last conversation, braverman would be more like sort of the steven miller of britain. >> exactly. >> i wasn't saying that it would be funny. >> no. >> that's what she's trying to be, and that's what -- and here's another parallel that, you know, conservatives in britain duck, because she's going to run most likely to be the next party leader. >> right. >> if she wins that, what's happened to the united states where the republican party has lost in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, and 2023, that will start happening to conservatives in britain. we'll see if they learned the mistakes from so-called conservatives in america. i seriously doubt it. >> all right. we'll be following that. to israel now, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu discussed a possible deal yesterday to free the hostages taken by hamas on october 7th. speaking on "meet the press," netanyahu attributed any movement toward an agreement to israel's ground offensive in gaza. take a listen. >> so, is there a potential deal, mr. prime minister? is there a potential deal? >> there could be, but i think the less i say about it, the more i'll increase the chances it materializes. it's a result of pressure, military pressure, the extraordinary work that the idf is doing putting pressure on the hamas leadership. that's the one thing that might create a deal, and if a deem is available, well, we'll talk about it when it's there. we'll announce it if it's achieved. >> do you know where all the hostages are being held right now, mr. prime minister? >> we know a great deal, but i won't go beyond that. >> a biden administration official confirmed to nbc news a potential deal would release about 80 women and children in exchange for the release of palestinian women and teenagers held by israel. however, the prime minister cautioned that any deal would not inclews a collude a cease-fire on the part of israel. he said a, quote, different authority must govern gaza once the war is over but did not say whether he would accept an international force to do so. richard haass, on a number of levels, how is benjamin netanyahu managing this given what some would say is a bit of a crisis in leadership? >> some would say -- >> trying to be careful with my words. >> he's trying to attribute the possibility of a hostage deal to israel's use of force. i think it would be more attributable to an exchange. there's that. second of all, there's slight adjustment, emphasizing slight, to israeli military behavior, the idea of the openness to these short pauses, still seeing obviously harm done to civilians. the most interesting thing of what the prime minister had to say over the weekend is how far apart he and president biden are on what comes after. >> exactly. >> he is talking about a prolonged israeli occupation, ohm ended. and he dismissed the possibility of the palestinian authority, the one potentially one would have thought, acceptable palestinian leadership to play a role not just in the west bank but in gaza. what's so interesting about that, mika, it shows israel, his government, zero interest in a two-state solution. >> right. >> increasingly in israel. i think what we're seeing is -- and i underestimated this myself -- the impact of october 7th. you know, to put it bluntly, there's no doves in israel right now. it's not just that the government is extreme. indeed, they're talking about having settlements in gaza, just to give you an idea, and to get rid of a minister who talked about using a nuclear weapon. it's not just the extremism of the government. what i think we're seeing in israel is real disillusionment. maybe that's not a strong enough word. >> no. >> but the whole idea of a palestinian -- >> visceral reaction to october 7th. >> right. the idea is that there's no palestinian leadership you could ever trust to live alongside. they don't have an alternative. >> that's not long term. >> zero alternative has been articulated. essentially what the israelis are saying, we know what we don't like, what we don't want, we haven't figured out what it is we want and haven't figured out how to bring it about. coming up, we'll talk to the held of the tsa about the threat of a government shutdown and any potential impact that the nation's airports might have trouble. he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? customize and save with liberty bibberty. he doesn't even have a mustache. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ only sleep number smart beds let you each choose only payour 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will keep fighting. whatever it takes. >> the extraordinary courage that's come up in all the ukrainians we talked to, whether they were in uniform, out of uniform, schoolteachers, even children. >> i want to protect my country, my mom, my family. >> the ukrainians will win this. the question is at what cost. >> we were born for this moment. >> i'm ready to win. >> that was part of the trailer for "superpower" a documentary that followed ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy at the outset of the war. the film includes exclusive footage of zelenskyy in his bunker on the first night of russia's invasion. joining us is aaron kaufman from kyiv. he serves has a nongovernmental advisor to president zelenskyy. also with us daniel lubetski. aaron, tell us about "superpower," the title and the story itself. >> well, for us, "superpower" started as just a profile on zelenskyy. we thought an actor who became president was going to be a great story. we chose the right time or the wrong time to make that movie, because as we were there it started to become clear that russia was going to invade. we happened to just be there when it happened and stayed with the story for the next year and a half to make "superpower." once it came out, i tried to stay involved and still continue to tell the stories, because they're still happening. >> tell us a little bit about volodymyr zelenskyy. he's become a global phenomenon really. people look at him as sort of the tip of the spear in terms of the future of the world. >> we liked him initially. we thought he was great. but i don't think anyone thought he had the resolve that he's had. people forget that at the time they were telling us if russia tried to come into kyiv, that kyiv would fall in 72 hours. that was understood fact. so the fact that he's kept that from happening for two years, i think that says a lot about who he is. i think if we had another type of leader in office at that time, russia could very well have control of all of ukraine. >> wow. aaron, you're back in ukraine filming now for daniel's foundation. here's some exclusive footage for that project you've shared with us, showing ukrainian soldiers rescuing two young children and their mother. [ speaking in a global language ] >> candy and books and kind of a coloring book. >> i know the two of you are working together to get more footage. what are you hoping to do with the footage and the stories aarons gathering for you? >> it's not just me. we have colonial vindman and others. putin is delighted that they've turned their eyes to the very difficult situation in the middle east. there's a lot of concern they're going to try to undermine all of the infrastructure again for the winter. it's important not to forget that all these things are interconnected. the islamic regime that's repressing people in iran is sending drones to help putin's russia attack the people in ukraine. they've had hundreds of thousands killed and over 20,000 confirmed cases of children that have been abducted, taken into russia and reprogrammed to try to become russian and to try to then attack their motherland. this is a crime against humanity. >> members of hamas were hosted in moscow not that long ago. we're seeing real reluctance among some republicans in washington to also keep helping ukraine. in fact, the government could shut down at the end of the week. one of the most contentious issues is funding to ukraine. at least right now, the gop is not offering any. >> many in the gop have been very clear. nikki haley spoke out very forcefully. these things are interconnected . the totalitarian efforts will cost us much more. if ukraine were to fall, where will it stop? putin has made it clear he has world ambitions. we need to make sure we help the ukrainians stand up to putin, because if they do, the stakes are high for all of us. we're not filming it for ukraine's sake. we're filming it for everyone to be aware of the importance of it. >> in this next clip, we see the operator of a bomb shelter receive some uplifting news. take a look. >> she organizes everything, oversees everything. >> with our partner blue check ukraine, we're able to send a grant to the shelter for $25,000, not only to help with repairs, but to help for the winterer. [ speaking in a global language ] >> oh my gosh. to learn more about the lubetski family's efforts, visit family.com. we start the fourth hour with the latest dangerous fascist rhetoric from donald trump. on saturday first in a social media post and then again at a rally later in the day, trump vowed to root out the, quote, vermin within the country. take a look. >> in honor of our great veterans on veterans day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communist, marxist, fascist and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. >> you know, there had long been a debate during the 2015-2016 portions of the campaign. some people had reported that donald trump read mein kampf or had it next to his bed. we don't really know. i can tell you, though, in 2023, it's irrelevant, because wherever he's getting those words, the sources come straight from 1930 fascists. they just do. you may not like that. maybe that triggers you. maybe you're a little snowflake. maybe you're a fat, white, pink boy working for donald trump and you want to act tough so you think you can adopt fascist language, maybe even talk about undermining american democracy. maybe that makes you feel more like a man. it's just so un-american. nothing manly about undermining american democracy. by the way, at the end of the day there's going to be another fight for the soul of america next year. i can tell you how it's worked so far. that fascist talking, trump republicans lost in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. and now he's doubling, tripling down. will it work? well, nothing less than the future of american democracy, the way it's been run over the last 230 or so years is riding on next year's election. to talk more about what happened this weekend, let's bring in editor of "the new republican" michael tomasky and brian claus. michael, you wrote about this. you know, mika will tell you i'm the first to go around, whether in the house, over dinner or on this show to tell people not to catastrophize because they wear me out. that said, when language is lifted straight from people like mussolini, lifted straight, well, it ain't catastrophizing if it's the truth. >> no, it's not. but, you know, it may be time to catastrophize, joe. trump has said a lot of outrageous things. he's said a lot of things that we would call, that i would call and i know you have called fascist. but when i saw this on sunday morning, my jaw hit the floor, because this particular word "vermin" is so historically loaded. it goes back to mussolini, as you said, but it is especially associated with 1930s germany, the nazi regime, the third reich. they had cartoon after cartoon of cartoon of jews as rats, of jews as vermin. they used that word all the time not only about jews, but in some ways worse, it is about all of his perceived opponents. he says to his audience, it's okay to do to these people whatever you want to do to them, they're not human. >> he keeps doubling down, tripling down. we talked for quite some time back in 2017-2018 about him lifting "enemy of the people" from stalin. and how when khrushchev took power, he banned that phrase because he said it was so easy to dehumanize his opponents. we have trump running around going "we're going to root out the communists and the marxists." joe biden, a communist, really? a guy from delaware who was criticized as being too close to banks and credit cards. but that's the language. doesn't matter who he's running against, he's just making things up. he loves orban in hungary. he's just making things up. again, here he's lifting straight from the 1930s, straight from fascists. i know a lot of professors want to go there. they say, oh, well, maybe it's not fascism yet. you see january 6th, you see donald trump praising the people that stormed the capitol, tried to overthrow american democracy and then using the same words that nazi used in the '30s in germany and in italy? what do you want to call it, afternoon tea? if it sounds like naziism, if you make threats the way he's making threats, i'm not exactly sure what you call it if you don't call it fascism. >> i think you can try to claim there was a coincidence the first time this happened, but this has been going on for seven years. it's quite clear he's lifting not just rhetoric, but actual plans from the authoritarian playbook. every week we get a new story about how they're planning and gearing up to go after the department of justice. we are sleepwalking towards authoritarianism and people are not waking up to this. the constitution is not written be magical ink. it is protected by people who make brave choices during moments of political peril, and we are in one of those moments. the republican party are not distancing themselves from this rhetoric. they're just sort of pretending it doesn't exist. we are walking towards breaking down democracy one day at a time. that's something we have to grapple with as we head toward the election next year, because that is the biggest story in american politics, and nothing else comes close. >> what brian said is something that jon meacham has been referencing for some time, in both private conversations i have with him and also what he said on the show this morning. you actually have some country club republicans, you actually have some corporate republicans, you actually have main street republicans who are treating this just like any other election, who are treating this like it's 1988 or like it's 1992. they're like, well, of course, you know, if trump's the nominee, i'll vote for him. i'm not going to vote for the democrat. i'm not going to vote for biden. of course, we could have that argument on why in the world wouldn't you vote for biden, the best foreign policy president since george h.w. bush and the guy who's has more bipartisan successes since -- my god, you'd have to go back to maybe lbj for a democrat to be that successful, bill clinton, lbj. but their attitude is, well, yeah, trump's a fascist, yeah, trump's this, yeah, trump's that, but i'm not going to vote for a democrat. that's exactly what brian's saying. a lot of these country club republicans and corporate republicans who are sleepwalking toward disaster. >> again, we've seen what has happened under his watch. we've seen january 6th. we saw people storming the capitol, defecating on the capitol, trying to kill members of congress. and that's blown off, forgotten? we just were playing a biden ad where they used his words on what he said about our veterans. >> what trump said. >> what trump said about our vets, just the most reprehensible, disgusting words you could ever use. he is a very cruel person. it's not a debate. the only thing between us and the democracy ending, quite frankly, is trump losing or winning. if he wins, our democracy ceases to exist. this is where we're at. we might have said it in the first term and a lot of people thought it was hysteria. no. we have proof now. the kind of language he was using, vermin over the weekend and other horrible things he was saying echoing autocrats, it's not new. here's donald trump back in september. >> nobody has any idea where these people are coming from. we know they come from prisons. we know they come from mental institutions and we know they're terrorists. nobody has ever seen anything like we're witnessing right now. it is a very sad thing for our country. it's poisoning the blood of our country. it's so bad. and people are coming in with disease. >> reverend al, poisoning the blood of our country. your friend jonathan greenblatt of the adl rightly called that out. where have we heard that before? again, it's just straight fascism. >> it is straight fascism. it's straight racism. it's this whole idea of having a "pure" race. and donald trump is many things. stupid is not one of them. he knows exactly what he's trying to put out there. he knows exactly who he's appealing too. and he's fine with that. the thing that i raised on this whole discussion, michael tomasky, is that we're talking about a guy who always talks like this, then got in power and continued to talk like this. and for those that are the republicans at the golf clubs that act like, well, i'll just vote for him, yes, he talks like that. they don't understand. he'll target them if they get in his way. he is a guy, if there ever was some fantasy that he would calm down or at least play like he was more democratic, you do that when you have four cases and 91 felonies and he's still doing it. so this is just him. when do people understand that nothing's going to correct the way this man thinks? he thinks as an autocrat. his love letters are not to his wife. it's to kim jong-un. we need to understand that. >> al, it's apparently really hard to make a lot of people face up to them to what seems to them abstract or theoretical or hypothetical. people don't want to believe it can be that. they don't want to believe it can happen here, to use the old phrase. he's drawing the roadmap for us every week. the same day he made the vermin comment, the "new york times" had that big story about his plans for immigrants, rounding them up by the millions, unauthorized immigrants rounded up by the millions per year. people need to stop and think about what that means. picture that, millions of people detained in a single year, what that will do to the fabric of this country. as for these country club republicans, i don't know what they're thinking. they'd rather have their tax cuts, i guess. they hate biden, they hate his love for unions. i guess that's more important to them than democracy. that's what they're telling us. that's the decision they're making. >> well, it's right there. like you said, it's for these country club republicans, you know, they've been trying -- i remember reading a national review article, like, maybe a couple of months after joe biden was in office. he signed this presidential order. i can't even remember what the presidential order was. and "the national review" threw their arms up in the air like, "that's it, that's it, he's worse than trump, he has no respect for the constitution, it's all over, anybody that's ever criticized donald trump can no longer criticize." you know, it's that argument, right? like maybe a month later the supreme court came back and validated the presidential order like, yeah, that's constitution. they do that every three weeks. lena kahn, that's it! they're always making excuses, always trying to compare a moderate democrat, who is constantly attacked by progressives in his party, calling him a communist. tech billionaire peter theil supported donald trump. he's at least one guy who said trump is too crazy for him. in a recent interview with "the atlantic" he said the team put together by former president trump was, quote, crazier and more dangerous than he expected. he endorsed the former president during his speech at the 2016 republican national convention. but he said, quote, it was crazier than i thought. it was more dangerous than i thought. they couldn't get the most basic pieces of the government to work. so i think that part was maybe even worse than my low expectations. you know, thank god for small blessings, i guess. jonathan lemire, i'm glad peter thiel said what he did, i really am. but i'm looking at country club republicans, and i mean it, country club republicans who think of themselves often as above the fray, too good to get into the dirty part of politics, you know, sitting around their country clubs, and ceos sitting around going, you know, i hate trump, he's dangerous, but my god, i would never vote for joe biden. so here we have again the sleepwalking part, sleepwalking through history and straight into a regime where the guy promises to be an autocrat. >> yeah. this is a real phenomenon, these country club republicans or even some independents who didn't vote for trump maybe in 2020, but are thinking about it again, because they're convinced that the economy under trump was so good. we've been through the numbers on this show a lot about how it was solid for most of his time in office. >> jonathan, i hate to interrupt you. can i just say on that point -- i know you know these numbers, but i want our audience as we're talking about this, these people bitch and whine about how bad the economy is. look at the polls. there are so many polls where the overwhelming majority of americans say they're doing well. as far as personal satisfaction goes in their lives, some polls are showing 80%. it doesn't match up. these country club republicans have it better than they've ever had it. it just doesn't match up. them going, well, things used to be great when donald trump was president. no, no, no, not really. even before covid -- and please forgive me for going on. even before covid, donald trump ranked below jimmy carter and six other presidents in the gdp rising under his administration. he ranked like seventh since world war ii. so they've, i guess, bought into the lie. and it is a lie. donald trump was not a good president when it came to the economy. they convinced themselves that he is. >> donald trump, better at joe biden at branding and selling his economy, not better at actually presiding over the economy. president biden's white house has seen far, far, far more significant growth in recent years. this is a perfect segue to the idea of branding, about selling a story. that's something donald trump has done. he did it about the economy. okay, fine. there's something far more sinister. he and his allies have also really been effective at downplaying what happened after the election of 2020 and downplaying what happened on january 6th. january 6th was the sneak preview of what a second trump term would look like, and he's managed to make it look palatable for those country club republicans. okay, maybe the demonstration got out of hand, that's not what the trump movement is about. no. that is what the trump movement is about. >> that is a serious miscalculation. trying to exchange democracy for a tax cut is like lighting your house on fire because you got cold. the situation is going to create havoc in the economy. if violence becomes a normal feature of elections, we're going to have more volatility in the economy and worse growth. one thing that's not pointed out enough is that the guardrails to a large degree are off trump in a second term. we forget that in 2017 there were a few republicans that torpedoed some of trump's policy ideas. those people are gone. all of the moderate republicans have been purged or primaried. the party is now trump's party. whatever he's trying to say in the past that he was derailed a little bit by some of the moderates that grew a backbone, those people don't exist anymore. we have to reckon with the idea that the rhetoric is not just words. this is going to be very likely to happen. it is alarming that everybody who does what i do, which is studies the breakdown of democracy, is saying every red flag that exists, exists. we have to take this seriously. i don't know how else to say this. this is an extremely dangerous situation for our country. >> not only do these red flags exist, donald trump is grabbing them, going to the stage and waving them. speech after speech after speech, he's promising you that if he's elected, he will be an autocrat. some people say nikki haley is gaining steam. ron desantis is still in it. of course, tim scott just dropped out. it's not like these country club republicans don't have an alternative. michael, i just got to follow up with the great insight of brian. okay. so you got a tax cut. that's great. i hope you enjoyed it. what is it that the markets despise? what is it that ceos despise? uncertainty, instability, the unknown of how will things change. if donald trump keeps promising to be orban, what that means is, the ceos are like the first that he's going to go after. the rule of law itself. as jon meacham said earlier this morning, if you're talking about terminating the constitution, the very thing that makes our economy the strongest and the safest to invest in, the rule of law goes out the window. suddenly no investments are safe. suddenly america economically is in turmoil. you're going to trade all that for a tax cut you got in 2018? >> you're totally right, but people are so shortsighted, joe. there is a direct link between economic policy and economic health and democracy and democratic health that i'd like to hear the democrats, frankly, talk more about. you know, a democracy is the best system for making a stable economy that helps the middle class. there have been a lot of frustrations by a lot of people in the last 15 or 20 years that benefits haven't gone to them the way they should have. those frustrations are legitimate. biden talks about that. he's trying to do something about that. he's shifting wealth from the top to the middle. he's not getting any credit for it, but he is trying to do that. there is a direct link between economic health and democratic health. donald trump by threatening democratic health, threats economic health. it's very clear. >> if only his opponents would actually call him out on that and tell the people in the republican primary that the house is on fire, instead of standing next to a burning house and completely ignoring it. thank you both very much for being on this morning. we turn now to the latest in a legal case that could wipe out donald trump's business empire in new york city. today the former president's legal team will begin to present its defense in the new york $250 million civil fraud trial. trump and his namesake company are accused of defrauding new york state numerous times by knowingly using false financial records to receive loans and deals. >> great picture of him. >> yeah. >> i may hire that artist to do my portrait. >> he doesn't like being in there, trump, but he goes because he's losing his money. >> look what he's getting out of it. he's getting all these great portraits. look at that. it looks just like him. this artist is a rembrandt. >> trump's legal team is expected to argue that a disclaimer clause in the financial documents frees the company from any liability. donald trump jr. is expected to take the stand again today for the defense. joining us from outside the courthouse is former litigator and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. also with us, state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg. lisa. >> reporter: donald trump jr., as you know, is making his second appearance here. he was examined by the attorney general last week, but not cross examined by any of the trump side's attorneys. the reason is a fairly technical one, but it matters. when you cross examine a witness, you are generally limited to the scope or the topics that were explored during a general examination. therefore, if team trump wants to go beyond that and get trump jr. to talk about things that weren't the focus for the a.g., they needed to call him in their case in chief. that's what we can expect them to do today. they're largely going to focus on two components that the a.g. has to prove, intent and materiality. in both cases, they're going to try to use donald trump jr., who was effectively in control of the trump organization between 2017 and 2021 with a brief blip of control going back to his father and then again he and his brother now run the organization. they're going to use donald trump jr. to establish he didn't have any intent to defraud because he relied at all times on the organization's accountants and lawyers. they're also going to use him, more credibly, to establish that none of the valuation differences were critical. that includes the trump apartment at trump tower which inflated their square footage from 13,000 feet to 23,000 square feet. they're going to want to explore with donald trump jr. that, according to them, that was always a mistake and never an intentional fraud. >> lisa, give us a sense as to what we should expect here beyond trump junior's testimony here today. how long do we think the defense is going to offer its own case? is there still an expectation that the former president himself will testify at some point? >> reporter: you know, i'll take the second part first. i have an expectation that the former president will come back, because he can't help himself. in particular, he really wanted to talk about the value of his properties, the value of his brand in ways that he was repeatedly cut off from doing despite lengthy testimony. there were some admissions that were very helpful for them. but i think donald trump will insist oncoming back to tell his side of the story. when he was on the stand last week, he angrily said, "this guy decided i was a fraud, and he doesn't even know me." as for the rest of it, how long are we going to be there? that is the $250 million question, so to speak. chris kise told the judge we'll be here until december. they have 127 people on their witness list, and they haven't cut that down so far. in large part, because they don't want to give the a.g.'s office any more preview of where they're going than they have to. >> delay is obviously one of their best strategies, especially if they have no explanation for their behavior. and in this case when you say your new york city apartment is tens of thousands of square feet bigger than it really is, that's kind of hard to backtrack on. my question is, how long can they delay this? >> mika, good to be with you. as far as that courthouse drawing, it shows you why we need cameras in the courthouse. judge engoron is allowing trump to put on four expert witnesses that are really going to be relevant. but he is working on the appeal. he wants to preserve the record so his ultimate judgment will be upheld on appeal, because it will definitely be appealed. this case is essentially over anyways. the judge granted summary judgment at the beginning saying, yes, trump and his organization are liable for fraud. what's left is just a question really of damages up to the $250 million. it's not a question of whether trump's going to win or lose. the question is how much of a dent will he feel in his wallet. >> can they put off feeling that dent for how long, for years, months, weeks? >> well, it will go on appeal. that's a tricky question of whether the judgment will be stayed, postponed on appeal. at some point, these criminal cases are going to be creeping up. i do think the case in washington state with judge chutkan and the election interference case, that's going to be the first criminal case that goes. that's scheduled to go in march. so this case is going to wrap up by that december deadline, then it will be on appeal, but it won't interfere with the criminal case. then there's the e. jean carroll civil case. that's coming back again on defamation. there are some other matters that are civil, but the real existential threat is that case in washington state where judge chutkan ain't messing around. i think the strongest case is down here in south florida with judge cannon, who is slow walking the case. that's the strongest case against him, the mar-a-lago documents. unfortunately, i think that case won't be held until after the election. >> thank you both very much for your analysis this morning. coming up on "morning joe," an update on a major highway in l.a. that is shut down this morning after a massive fire over the weekend. plus, the head of the tsa is our guest this morning. we'll ask him how the agency will handle a potential government shutdown ahead of the holiday travel season. also ahead, it's looking like wall street is starting off the week 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[speaker continues in the background] the network with 24/7 built-in security. chip? at&t business. the infamous los angeles gridlock will be even worse for the foreseeable future after a major fire damaged one of the city's busiest freeways. crews are still clearing debris from the saturday fire on the i-10 so that engineers can come in and make sure the support columns under the overpass didn't suffer structural damage. about 300,000 people cross that section of i-10 every day. there's no word yet on when the highway might reopen. the cause of the fire remains under investigation. joe. >> do we have any west coasters on set right now? anybody? >> okay. >> only east coasters. i need some help from our friends that are waking up this morning on the west coast. mika, i'm going to give you some credit here for effort. you added "the." but i don't know that you go "the i-10." you do "the 405." for west coasters, do you add the "the." i got to give you credit. you said the i-10. >> quite a quibble. [ laughter ] >> this is a question. alex, if you could investigate that for us and also if you want to e-mail and you're on the west coast, you can let us know. >> you're probably right. >> okay. let's move on, shall we? >> we'll have the answer soon. let's go to some happier news. the credit agency rating moody's has lowered its outlook rating on the u.s. government. okay. maybe that's not good news. the warning about continued political polarization in congress threatens the country's fiscal strength. let's bring in andrew ross sorkin. i understand what they're doing. i get it, right? i mean, seriously, the united states of america, if you're going to invest in something right now, come on, where are you going to go? you're still going to go here. we've seen this before. this is just me. i know a lot of people say, yeah, i know on the street you're going to hear, moody's have their ratings, but i listen to joe. what does jose? what joe says is, we're going to get through this. i think it's a bit of overkill on the down rating part. andrew, what say you? you actually know what you're talking about. >> we've seen this before. we should say that s&p and fitch downgraded prior from aaa to aa plus. the rating agencies are saying, a, they don't have the same trust that the u.s. government is good for the money as much as -- and i want to give you the list here. those coming in ahead of us, australia, denmark, germany, luxembourg, the netherlands, norway, sweden, singapore. those would easily outrank at the moment where the u.s. sits in terms of credit rating and who's good f the money, who's going to be the better chance that if you give them a dollar today, you'll get back your money, plus the interest, five years, ten years, 30 years from now, depending on what loan you've just made to the government. >> you know i'm a huge fan of luxembourg. at the same time, as warren buffett said the week after september 15th in 2008, only a fool would bet against the united states of america. i think we're good for the money. i don't know. >> i think we're good for the money too, but i think it's going to put a lot of pressure on washington right now to rein in spending. come this next weekend, we could have a government shutdown all over again. we'll see what really happens. you can see that pressure emerging. this is only going to add to that. >> i'm far less concerned about what happens over the next month or too than i am with that 32 or $33 trillion debt. we talk about it on the show all the time. that is something that obviously over the long-term has to be resolved. let's talk about -- i saw it make the news, top of the drudge report that, once again, the trump name stripped from a famous hotel property, just because the brand is so toxic. >> so this is an instance where they're going to redo this hotel in hawaii. they've taken the name off of it. this is not the first time. it's happened in a number of cities, washington state, new york, et cetera. there's a couple involved in that civil case brought by letitia james. they still have the trump name on that hotel in vegas and a couple of other places, but it definitely changed the dynamic. they're going to have to pay the trumps to get out of that contract, interestingly. long-term bad for trump, short-term maybe good in terms of the economics going back and forth, but we don't know exactly what those numbers look like. >> i don't know if your kids have taken you to marvel movies, but man, i saw them with my kids. we went to them, and we loved them. but i think one of the things that we found out is a marvel universe without robert downey jr. is not a successful universe. talk about the really disaointing opening weekend for the marvels. >> this is coming at half of what some expected on the high end originally. they spent something like $200 million on this film, then you add on all of the money spent on marketing. underneath, the question that everybody's asking is, all of this intellectual property, the model that disney pursued for so many years was to buy off intellectual property and make these movies. for so long, it worked super well. but in the past two years at disney, it has not worked as well. the question is, is that a function of the stories themselves, the characters themselves, the marvel world? or is that the screenwriting or something particular to these projects? we saw also indiana jones, a great brand, if you will. didn't do as well this last time. i was looking at rotten tomatoes. 62% by critics for marvel, not a good rating. there's a lot of people taking a lot of shauden freud in these failing. there's a question mark not about the intellectual property, but whether these stories can be made great. i think in this instance, unfortunately they haven't managed that crative process as well as they should. it can work. it just has to be beautifully executed. >> when disney got both marvel and "star wars," i'm with you, i thought, my god, they're going to be printing money for the next decade or so. i hate to even do this. i hate to monday morning quarterback here, but my god, they so mismanaged the "star wars" franchise. my kids and i, we sit there and talk about it over and over again. they just so mismanaged disney. it looks right now like there's some mismanagement. it's all about the people that have the vision. >> it's all about the creatives, no question. >> it's the creatives. i almost feel like disney is doing this by committee. you can't do it by committee. you've got to find that one person that has that creative vision for it that everybody buys into and then let him or her go. >> okay. cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much. good to have you on. >> on "morning joe," by the way, that person is mika. the government shutdown could have a major impact on travel just ahead of the thanksgiving holiday. if the republican-led house fails to get it done, air traffic controllers and tsa agents would have to work out pay. it could also lead to significant delays and longer wait times for travelers across the country. joining us now, the administrator of the transportation security administration david pikassi. is there anyway you can prepare for a government shutdown, and what should travelers expect? >> first, we hope congress comes to an agreement and gets a bill signed. in the event that doesn't happen, every agency has plans in event of a government shutdown. we've been through this in the past, unfortunately, many times. the biggest impact for tsa is going to be on our people, obviously. people don't get paid during a government shutdown. 95% of our employees are required to work. we're an essential organization. so they could go for a period of time with no income coming in. if you go back to 2019 when we had a 35-day government shutdown, we had some employees who couldn't put gas in the car, couldn't pay for child care, couldn't pay for parking to get to work. so it does have an impact. the impact grows as time goes on. >> and layers of bad effects, because you're going to have slowdowns, delays and angry travelers, frustrated, treating employees who aren't getting paid -- i mean, that's a nightmare. >> a nightmare that coincides with the start of the holiday travel season, one that's anticipated to be a record one. are you guys ready? >> we're ready. fortunately congress passed a law last year that put tsa for the first time in its 22-year history on the same pay scale as the rest of the federal government. that began in july. once that pay plan kicked in, our attrition rate went down by 50%. when we advertise for positions, there are a lot more people applying for positions. we are almost at full staffing, so we're in a very, very good spot with respect to that. with respect to passenger volumes, this is going to be a record breaking year. there's no question about it. over the course of this calendar year, seven of the ten busiest days have been in 2023. the busiest day was the friday before the fourth of july weekend. it's going to happen again on thanksgiving weekend, which is always the busiest day for tsa. we feel we're going to have about 3 million passengers going through our checkpoints. that means about 6 million bags that get checked at the checkpoint. it's a huge workload for our people. >> joe. >> david, thank you so much for your service. we certainly thank the men and women who serve for you and for all of us. that's a really big windup, though, to warn you that i'm about to ask you the type of question we always ask for mayor pete, now secretary of transportation pete buttigieg when things were going so badly. there are some times i'll notice where i'll be i notice where i'm traveling through, say, jfk on a friday, one of the busiest times and one of the main terminals and there will only be one line open. i'm fine because i'm tsa preapproved and all that stuff. for other people, i look at those lines and go, man, half of those people are going to miss their planes. when we all see that sort of situation, why is that? is that a lack of resources you guys have? is that a lack of funding from congress? is that an airport situation? is that an airline situation? why would something like that -- it happens a good bit. where do we look to when we see tons of people waiting an hour and one line open? >> first off, the airlines and the airports and tsa all work closely together. our mutual goal is to make sure passengers get safely and skewerly wah they need to go. we found overtime it requires a team effort to be successful. if you look at jfk over the course of this past summer, busiest summer in our mystery. from memorial day to labor day, about 10.2 million passengers went through that airport. about 1%, a little less than 1% waited longer than 30 minutes. so what happens sometimes in checkpoint operations is there are clearly rush hours in checkpoints. so at 5:00 in the morning until about 8:00 in the morning, it's really busy pretty much across the united states. same thing from 3:00 in the afternoon to about 6:00 p.m., very, very busy. when you get those busy periods sometimes you reach the capacity of the checkpoint where sometimes you might have flights that show up at a different gate that was originally planned where you can't shuttle people back and forth quickly enough. the other thing that's really important to consider is there could be a security incident in that checkpoint or a medical issue that occurs. one of the security incidents we see in many airports across the country are passengers trying to carry firearms through the screening checkpoint and ultimately on board the aircraft. if a passenger does that, it takes us about 15 or 20 minutes to handle that individual case. you can imagine when you have a series of lanes or even a singular lane like you referenced, joe, that that can really slow things down for everybody else. >> that would be significant. i'm curious, though, do you guys need more funding? i was wondering, is congress -- does congress give you enough funding for your needs so we have enough people helping travelers? >> we could always use more funding. we could use more funding for more people, to have a little more flexibility, to be able to provide for more regularity in terms of taking vacation time, things like this. we could absolutely use more funding for capital investment. we're putting new x-ray technology, new credential authentication technology for identity fair verification. we can always use more funding. >> tsa administrator david pekoske. from taylor share darn comes the new miniseries "law men bass reeves" inspired by the first black deputy u.s. marshal west of the mississippi. >> are you a law man or an outlaw? >> a bit of both i reckon. >> i need a man with a good gun and a straight smile. you up for the task? >> i wouldn't be sitting here in my sunday best if i wasn't. >> we might be men, they're just killers, all thieves. sglment i ain't about to quit this. >> you find a home for yourself, what would you do to hold on to it, to protect it? >> you got till the count of five to get the hell off my land. >> you got two shells in that bird killer. >> then i shoot you twice just to be safe. >> he was born into slavery and forced to fight for the confederacy. during the civil war he escaped slavery and became a free man. his fluency in american indian languages and sharp shooting skills helped him get the job as a federal peace officer. in his 32-year career, he arrested thousands of criminals and was never wounded. joining us is the man who stars as the western frontier heal row, david aiello. david, thank you for being here. what drew you to this fascinating story? >> well, it's everything you just said, how extraordinary this individual was, the fact that it's unthinkable his story hasn't yet been told, and for me i just think any time there's a moment where we have denied especially someone of this transcendent nature their moment in the sun, that's always something i'm always looking to correct with the full of my love, which is storytelling. >> david, al sharpton. tell us about and how you traumatized it in the story, how regoes from someone forced to fight for the confederacy, with the confederacy to where he transitions into somebody that really stands up for justice and his own freedom. >> to me that's one of the transcendent things about being african american in this country, the fact that slavery, of course, was as heinous a thing as could be done to a people, and yet to go on to not only fight for this country, be patriotic to this country, but for someone like bass reeves to serve this country in what he needed to be in what is actually truly just. because of being owned, he had to fight, you could argue, against what was beneficial to him and his community and being given agency, having become a deputy u.s. marshal. he's able to be in the driving seat of his own destiny in terms of actual justice as opposed to an enforced notion of justice which i would argue is no justice at all. >> david, i'm a big fan of yours and taylor sheridan. i'm excited to watch this. what's been so incredible about what taylor has done is that he takes history and does it in a way that it draws the viewer in. can you talk a bit about how the history really comes off the script and pops on the screen through actors like you? >> yeah. what taylor has built is the scope and scale that an audience has come to embrace when it comes to these kind of american stories. chad feehan, who is the one who created and ran the creative process on this is very much cut from this cloth as well. getting this right was so top of mind for us because i don't know that we've had many opportunities to see this kind of character with his family driving the narrative, and the groundbreaking nature of that, plus the history that has been marginalized was something we just felt we couldn't afford to get wrong. that's what we spent a lot of time doing and hopefully we got it right. >> this is so exciting. the stories that you and your wife tell and bring to the screen we just haven't seen on the screen. i'm so excited to see it. thank you so much for being with us. the new miniseries "law men bass reeves" is available to stream on paramount plus. david oyelowo, thank you. can't wait to see it. ana cabrera picks up the coverage in two minutes. ♪(uplifting music)♪ along with significantly clearer skin... skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi 90% clearer skin and less joint pain are possible. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to skyrizi, there's nothing like clearer skin and better movement... and that means everything. ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time to ask your doctor about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save.
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