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>> hi everyone, good afternoon to you. we're following some major news on several fronts right now. we're just five days away from a government shutdown, and the new plan from the house speaker to stop it is already running into some serious issues. we're also following developments in israel as hospitals in gaza report dire situation. israel's prime minister promises no letup in the offensive. doubling down on his plans for a total israeli control. after the war. >> mister prime minister, would you accept -- >> i think that the only force right now that can guarantee that hamas, the terrorism is not where you period, and taken over gaza, get as the israeli military. >> a budgeted not to joe whom did offer some encouraging words about a possible deal and hostages. more on that ahead. plus, we are one day away from donald trump junior second trip to the witness stand. the new york fraud trial. as his father is now demanding cameras in the courtroom for his trials. and that is coming up as well. we begin in washington, as house speaker johnson unveils a two tiered plan to fund the government, avoid a shutdown. but these republicans, they say they will not support a continuing resolution. the bill might already been doa. with five days, left time is running out. nbc correspondent, julie tsirkin, is on capitol hill. so we've got some more details today, julian, what's actually happening. so he cannot get, he cannot give up for votes for the republican caucus. three republicans in the house have already spoken out and said that they were against johnson's -- so this kind of tiered system, one deadline in january, one deadline in february. this is been a little more lukewarm about it, i would like to hear it out, considering it's a clean start. walk us through it. >> that's exactly right. late last night, i didn't appearing from a senior democrat and leadership on the senate side, who told me as much. he said that speaker johnson had moved in the direction of democrats with this plan. that's because the hard-line republicans, some of them already said no, we're pushing him even into the final minutes to try to put some budget spending cuts as part of this proposal. johnson, the speaker, decided not to do that. that's a good, sign because democrats now are more likely to support it with this deadline just a couple days away. i want you to take a listen to what one democrat in the house had to say about that. she's actually in israel right now. congresswoman, madeleine dean. traveling with my partisan delegation of lawmakers there. watch this. >> this seems like it's a ladder cr. i'm not interested in that. i want a bipartisan code tell. the rip -- they're not just in. that we will walk away from here, and take back with us to washington in a bipartisan, right aid to israel, including humanitarian aid. not tethered to defunding iris or anything else. that is an absolute humanitarit. we must do it for ukraine. >> now, he's the thing, the members on this trip, you can see on the screen, they're modete members. they're not y of these flame thrower conservatives or any of these hard-liners who were demanding budget cuts as part of any stopgap measure that they could support. in fact, the whoaid no had previously not supported continuing resolutions. it's not a big surprise. doesn't mean that speaker johnson, if he wants this plan to pass, has to reach across the aisle, and remember, that's what got the former speaker, kevin mccarthy, ousted in the first place. working with democrats, keeping the government open. johnson still seems to be in his honeymoon period with republicans saying they're willing to threaten his speakership just yet. certainly, it's interesting to , notable to me, the democrats in the senate are open to this proposal. they might ke this approach, they might think it's complicated, and it unnecessary in the words of one senate democrats. but they aren't closing the door on it altogether. that's because there are aren't any policy writers for those budget cuts. was not in here is this aid to israel. in, part because speaker johnson, on the phone call yesterday with republican members, said he still wants those pay cuts. also, there's no humanitarian aid as part of the house passed israel. bill couple weeks, ago that certainly is something democrats want. senate democrats, and senate republicans, they really don't want to split up president biden's national security funding requests. they want to see eight israel tied with aid to ukraine. tied with some funding for the border as. well it's my guess that they will be taking that up after the thanksgiving break. >> julie tsirkin for us. thank you. appreciate. that would be speaking, by the way, to former and current lawmakers about this new funding bill, and its chances throughout the show today. later this, hour i'll be joined by former republican congressman, charlie dent. coming up next hour, going to get reaction from the democratic congressman, gerry connolly as well. so we're following this breaking news on the israel-hamas war. the european union just issuing a call for an immediate cease fire. or pause, i should, say of hostilities in gaza for humanitarian purposes. earlier today, the palestine red crescent announcing that gaza's hospital is out of service and no longer operational due to a lack of fuel and power. and as surgeon the largest hospital, al-shifa, says the situation has become, quote, unquote more dangerous as he called for patients to be safely evacuated. also this afternoon, reaction of israeli prime minister, netanyahu, rejection calls for a cease-fire. and his thoughts on a postwar gaza, were he indicated that israel will, quote, continue to control security there. i'm with the, press my colleague pressed israeli leader on exactly what he means. >> so overall, military -- will have to be in israel. any management of gaza, the hasse to be [inaudible] and i think that so far, we haven't seen any palestinian force, including the palestinian authority, that is able to do it. >> i have to bring in nbc's correspondent in tel aviv. a couple things i want to walk through with the. out the first, let's just the comments from the prime minister yesterday, along this this morning, with our colleague christian walker. any reaction on the ground from that? >> well, the israeli prime minister continuing to raise eyebrows within the region. now, his assertion that israel will maintain security control over gaza, something he said earlier in the week, his senior advisor is scrambling to clarify what he meant by that. essentially, the israeli government doesn't want some sort of permanent security force inside gaza. what they want is the ability to enter and leave gaza for security purposes as they see fed. many within the region here are comparing that to the current west bank model. palestinian voices tell me that that is simply the equivalent to occupation. i was keen to -- earlier in the. week he was saying that what is necessary is free and fair elections. where this is all said and done, so the palestinians can decide for themselves who will govern them, and gaza, who will govern them in the west bank, and in east river salaam. now we also heard the prime minister there reject this idea that the palestinian authority could step in and fill that void. that's also likely to raise eyebrows within the biden administration because the secretary of state, antony blinken, has explicitly said that they would be looking to the palestinian authority for that governance role. something that earlier this week, palestinian presidents said that he would be more than willing to do. again, other palestinians are saying that those elections will be needed. >> we talked about the hospital system, the al-shifa hospital as well. the state of those right now, and the other hospitals, medical facilities, medical personnel, that are continuously being bombarded right now. >> yeah, earlier today, i was speaking to one of the league doctors inside the al-shifa hospital. he was describing a desperate situation. he said that they are completely surrounded by israeli forces. in fact, no stalking to him on the phone, i could hear the sounds of explosions. the sounds of bombardments. it didn't sound like it was very far away. he said that they are running out of fuel would, they're running out of water, and critically, they're running out of fuel. so much so that at least 16 patients, according to the gaza health ministry, had died as a result of a lack of supplies in that hospital alone. including at least three prematurely born babies. the israeli military said that they are facilitating, and evacuation of the hospital. they are saying that they dropped about 300 leaders a fuel outside the hospital gates. the doctor acknowledging they did receive that fuel, but also noting that while they receive 300 leaders a fuel this morning, they need 10,000. no one has been allowed to leave the hospital. >> erin, where are we on a possible deal with release of more hostages still being held in gaza? >> well, i meet the press, the israeli prime minister said that a deal was possible. unofficial within the biden administration is saying that the current deal is on the table. it's being considered part of this negotiation. it's in exchange, some 80 women and children that are hostages currently and gaza, in exchange for 80 women and children that are currently and palestinian, in israeli jails. but no deal has been finalized just yet. >> all right, erin maclachlan for. us thank, you erin. appreciate. at the biden administration reacting today to netanyahu's comments about gaza. we'll coy to nbc's allie raffa was at the white house for us. so, this comment that the prime minister is making about indefinite security of gaza, palestinians reading this as a reoccupation of gaza, wondering what we're hearing from the white house on this. >> yeah, yasmin, this has been a big question since this war started. really, what the future of gaza would look like, with many palestinians telling our teams on the ground that they were hesitant to leave gaza because, first of, all they didn't know whether they'd be allowed back again. if they were allowed back again, they weren't sure what caused it would look like when they were allowed to do so. you, know the administration officials were repeatedly asked about prime minister netanyahu's comments all over the sunday shows this morning. for example, national security adviser, jake, sullivan said that when prime minister netanyahu said is not the u.s. is understanding of what the end just standing in gaza would be once hamas is defeated. u.s. officials say they are vehemently against, and opposed, to the reoccupation of gaza. instead, calling for a political solution on the ground, they want palestinians themselves to be involved in. they want palestinians to be able to cover voice, people to take part in gaza's governance. listen to how admiral john kirby with a national security council described this to our colleague, jonathan capehart, this morning. >> the president has been very consistent on this one. we don't want to see a reoccupation of gaza by israel. we think that's not good for israel, is not good for the people of gaza. so we do not support that. what we do support is some sort of governance in gaza long-term, which includes the voices, the votes, and the self determination of the palestinian people. now what does that look like? we don't know. yeah >> national security advisers also saying on the sunday shows today that once hamas is defeated, the u.s. position and understanding is that israel will have an overall security responsibility of gaza, but again, they want to see palestinians and control, and involved in the governance aspect of this. yasmin, how that is actually accomplished is unclear. officials admit that still unclear, considering the last time we did see elections. this is in the early 2000s. this is something that officials say is still unclear at this point. >> ali, we also heard from the president today about a terrible accident involving the death of service members in the mediterranean sea. what more can you tell us about this? >> yeah, we saw new statements today from president biden, as well as defense secretary lloyd austin. we opting to this accident that happened early yesterday at the eastern -- it happened at a routine training mission that involved a military helicopter. both of them saying that they are mourning the loss of the service members, the thinking of their families, president biden in his statement saying that this is just a reminder of the bravery and the sacrifice that service members make for our country's security, and defense secretary austin saying that more information is actively being gathered to figure out more about what happened during this crash, yasmin. >> allie raffa. >> allie raffa for us, -- a 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trump jr.? >> as you said there is gonna be blaming someone else that is typical of what donald trump and his family do. it is not us, it's someone else. but since enron it's the responsibility of corporate officers to do exactly what they are accused of doing which is to submit the financials and take responsibility for them. i don't think that is legally a very good defense and while it might work in front of his base as a political matter it's not gonna work in front of the judge who knows the law. it's not very effective as a legal matter. >> i want to talk about this possibility of having cameras in the courtroom when it comes to the federal case against the former president. i want to play for you some sound as to why donald trump believes cameras should be in the courtroom. >> i announced last night, you probably saw it, they said, sir, do you want a trial with or without cameras, most people say without, i say the opposite, i want this trial to be seen by everyone in the world. >> his team filed a motion to make sure that happens or y to make sure it happens. you wrote about it in aie back in august saying this one of the prosecutors in the watergate obstruction of justice trial including then president nixo a coconspirator. i know the value of the public seeing the testimony and evidence themselves as they did in the air vent commite hearings. televising his trial would go a long way towards public understanding of the evidence, valuing the justice system, and accepting the verdicts, whatever they are. jack smith for his part, jill, opposes cameras in the courtroom arguing a long-standing as you've talked about judicial rule that -- criminal cases. all that being said, where will the land on this? >> i'm afraid we're probably gonna land without cameras in the courtroom. it doesn't make it right. i fear that unlike in minnesota where america got to see the witnesses, hear them, see their demeanor, and got to a value way whether or not derek chauvin had murdered george floyd. we're not gonna be able to see the witnesses and evaluate them for ourselves. it will be filtered through journalists, it won't be the same thing as seeing it. and seeing really does make a difference. the problem and i want to know that jack smith's opposition principle faced on the fact based on the federal rules of criminal -- our cameras in the courtroom. and that can only be changed by a combination of the judicial conference led by chief justice roberts changing that rule, and maybe congress doing something to change the federal rules. that would be an important step and they've already said, well, we'll study it will appoint a committee but it will take several years. that is too late. this case is particularly important because of its national significance and because witnesses should be seen by the victims. we are all victims. it is alleged that we were deprived of the right to have our votes fairly counted and that is exactly what is on trial here. it would be good for us as victims to be in the courtroom, the only way we can do that is through cameras which are no longer anything that obstructs a trial the way it was when the rules or foot first put in place. >> let me quickly ask you this, if jack smith were lobbying for cameras in the courtroom in spite of this judicial rule, with maybe more of a chance for cameras to be in that courtroom, or either way do you think they won't be allowed? >> i think they wouldn't be allowed either way because of the judicial conference. i don't think it would've helped if he had. i think donald trump knows there's not gonna be cameras and it will be harmful to him. but he saying it for his base, exactly what you saw and what you played, yasmin, you saw him say to his rally, i want them there and they cheered. he doesn't want them there because he knows the evidence is really, really strong against him. >> jill wine-banks as always, it's a pleasure, thank you. still ahead, -- joe johnson trying to 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>> the plan he proposed is not very responsible but doesn't have a great chance the way he has presented it. he intends to fund the government at current levels. i think you should do it in one step. that said, this high liners won't like it. hakeem jeffries will have enormous leverage because democratic votes in the house and senate will be able to pass the legislation. if i were speaker johnson i'd start talking to hakeem jeffries. he will need those votes. the way he has the structure right now the government will be funded through january 9th and complete two of the ten appropriations bill, one on the military va, and one on the water. then he do the rest by february 2nd, the other ten bills, and keep the government funding. i think this is one step, not to, it's better than what they proposed earlier through the latter approach which have lied in my view to a government shutdown. but this isn't an ideal plan but it could work. i don't think the senate is going to accept it like this as -- >> it's interesting, the way in which he pitched that this thing seems as if he's angling for the democratic votes, he has three republicans who said he's not voting for them. if he loses for, he's gonna have to get democrats to buy in. you talked about some of the deadlines, right now we're looking at a clean cr which is what mccarthy got across the finish line -- ago. and the january deadline for democratic priorities really witches agriculture, and energy, a february deadline for defense spending. the white house as i mentioned as i was coming to you are not on board with this thing at all. do you feel as if he has a real shot with hakeem jeffries getting him on board, getting more democratic votes on board, so they're not up against this christmas deadline as we've often seen? >> the democrats aren't going to agree for the republicans moving at defense bill independent of the non defense areas. they're not gonna do that, they're gonna insist that they're tied together. democrats will never agree to that. bottom line is to get jeffries votes, democratic votes in the house, he will have to accommodate them on one keeping the funding clean, that's at current levels. and that they would fend defense and non-defense programs alike, that's what they must do it remains to be seen if he will agree to that. but he has to if he wants to be successful. >> the former president has talked about what he would do if he's reelected and makes it back in the white house for 2024. he said he would prosecute his rivals if in fact to make sure they don't look good any longer. he talked a lot immigration. he said he would reinstitute the muslim travel ban, he would have sweeping raids by ice and other federal agents. a bill counts to detain people while they're processed, and contue to build a border wall and reject asylum claims under public health concerns. what do you make of this? >> this is a very extreme proposal. any birthright citizenship one could argue is unconstitutional, it would require an amendment, regardless, the supreme court would have to hear that case so it's probably a nonstarter. he's also talking about re-directing military construction fronts for immigration purposes without a vote of congress which is an assault on congress's article one authority. he's a right that the asylum reforms need to be made, no question about it, he's on firm ground trying to advance something there. it seems as if he's outsourced his whole immigration plans to stephen miller and steve bannon, and they're gonna go full out very extreme, they're gonna rescind the status of many of the afghans who helped us who are now in the united states. i can't think of anything more kallison in new maine and sending afghans back to afghanistan who helped us against -- this plan is really a hard, make it appeal to the nativist element of the party and again i don't think it will be well received in congress. >> charlie dan, as always, we appreciate it. coming up in the next hour, gerry connolly joins me with his reaction to the continuing resolution. we'll talk about israel. israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, announcing his post what -- taking control of security in gaza, quote unquote, indefinitely. a path that puts israel interact contrast with the united states when it comes to the future of the palestinian people. i want to bring aaron david miller, are of israeli negotiator, even i speak quite often these days, aaron, great to talk to you once again. i spoke to you on friday before we heard this somewhat declaration i would say from the israeli prime minister in yesterday's press conference. and reiterating, doubling down this morning with my colleague christine walker on meet the press. what do you make of what he is saying that israel will control security inside gaza indefinitely? >> jasmine, thank you for having me. the prime minister's condition in the united states and anyone who is following its war against hamas that regardless of what it has achieved even if these rallies achieve and eradicating the military. the israelis will want to say in the transition period and that's going to follow. the likelihood of residual elements remaining in gaza is quite high. during the reconstruction period the israelis are gonna want to have a say on whether or not the new materials could have tools, uses, and purposes. this will vote -- to any effort to reconstruct gaza let alone bring the palestinian authority ineffective now as it is back to control of gaza. the key to israel's success is whether or not the postconflict reality can prevent, literally prevent, without much exception high mass return the military. for gaza, it's gonna require isa specgx a great deal of israeli influence. >> benjamin netanyahu's lead on that he has no confidence in the p.a., in mahmoud abbas, you mentioned how ineffective they are, many people know that it's one of the reason why there were not reelected or elected in gaza. we also know the secretary of state met with mahmoud abbas ten days or so ago, are you saying to me, am i hearing that you feel as a -- to a certain extent is inevitable in gaza? >> i think it depends in part on how the actual confrontation ands. i don't think the israelis have any intention of re-occupying gaza it's twice the size -- it's gonna be. it's now a humanitarian catastrophe. winter is coming, half the population is displaced. i do believe the israelis hold a band either through a buffer zone or some sort of security liaison with whatever transition that is created. otherwise, it's gonna be a wash, rents and repeat just like the other four, five confrontations that the israelis have had with hamas in the past decade. yes, it's gonna run into heavy water but the administration laid out pretty firm position on this. again, the reality is gonna take them over a year. if hamas -- undermined, or quote unquote, defeated, [inaudible] there will be no authority neither the arab states, you add, multinational peacekeeping forces, it's gonna be willing or able to assume security that leaves the israeli military. it's a [inaudible] increasingly fraught with the future of gaza. >> from what i heard now who did not allude to working as a liaison or advisory position. he seemed fairly adamant about security in gaza, the idf is continually securing gaza. i want to play for you as you mentioned how this is gonna prove difficult for them to prove -- the president by that the secretary of state. >> as i said in israel, as hard as it is we cannot give up on peace, we cannot give up on us to state solution. >> with the israelis and palestinians h, exercising the right to live in the state of erode with equal measures, securities, and freedoms, opportunities, dignity. >> how does the secretary of state and administration now deal with this with what netanyahu has proposed? >> this is gonna be -- if you want any palestinian participation in postconflict gaza whether it's the authority or local elections to produce a gaza leadership, you're gonna have to tether this whole enterprise to the broader issue of making a serious run. i know it sounds fantastical, dear to a galaxy, far, far away black -- a two state solution. that's gonna mean major confrontation with this israeli government. but as we know, you and i were having this conversation i doubt seriously whether the current government in israel will be in power. this is gonna be a major friction point however. i suspect with many israeli governments, the israelis are in no mood to make concessions on jerusalem, borders, refugees, and security to a palestinian partner they believe does not have the authority and effectiveness to guarantee or monopoly in the force of violence within society. this will be a huge problem for the biden administration if in fact the president is serious about what he said ten days ago, which is, quote, we cannot go back to the status quo before october 6th. that is a cosmic statement and -- with responsibility for dealing with this incredibly fraught situation after the conflict ends, should it end. >> aaron david miller, as always, we are thankful. i'm sure we'll talk to you, against. appreciate it. up next, everybody, a big week of victories for democrats around the country. i'm gonna break down what it all means as we head into 2024. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ we're building a better postal service. for more on-time deliveries. and easier, affordable ways to ship. so you can deliver even more holiday joy. the united states postal service. delivering for america. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. we really don't want people to think of feeding food like ours is spoiling their dogs. good, real food is simple. it looks like food, it smells like food, it's what dogs are supposed to be eating. no living being should ever eat processed food for every single meal of their life. it's amazing to me how many people write in about their dogs changing for the better. the farmer's dog is just our way to help people take care of them. ♪ >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? 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joining me now, heather williams, interim president of the democraticgislate campaign committee to talk more about this. and all what happened on tuesday and beyond. heather, great to see you. welcome to you. what do you make of some of the big wins that we saw on tuesday, especially when it came to abortion rights? >> thanks so much for having me here. i think what we are really seeing is that voters really understand the stakes. and they understand that things are getting done in the states. using virginia as an example, voters knew that they would go to the polls on tuesday. and then if they woke up on wednesday morning with republican control in their legislature that they were going to have an abortion ban. that really crystallized the understanding of the stakes, and the amount of impact that the state legislature has is really motivating. we have been seeing it all over across the country, and we're gonna use that momentum as we move into 2024. >> i want to read a headline to you from usa today, which kind of encapsulates what's happening across the country whent mes to abortion rights, specifically, as congress freezes, states take action on abortion rights, marijuana legalization and other top priorities. if you look at ohio alone here, voters, they took action themselves to protect abortion rights and legalizing recreational marijuana use as well. in january, republican candidates supported governor youngkin's proposal for a 15-week abortion ban, with the exceptions. and democrats, though, they rallied against it, and voters made their choice incredibly clear, democrats securing full control of the virginia legislature. >> that's exactly right. and i think, again, it really shows how much voters understand what is happening in the states matters and that they can use their voice, right? in an environment where things feel, at times frustrating, when you've got republicans who cannot get it together, and a house of representatives wanting a place to really feel where you can take action and we heard is really important. and we are absolutely seeing that in the states. it's been interesting to watch all year. we've had special elections across the country. and now, obviously, tuesday's elections, where democrats are over performing. they are really showing up in these unique voting environments, right? the state legislature race is not a large race in size. but it's really impactful when you think about the kinds of policies that move through our legislatures, and now the increased focus to save our democracy and ensure that our rights are being protected in the states. >> how do you mobilize what we saw in the midterms? how do you mobilize what we saw on tuesday, right? this fight for abortion rights, bringing voters to the polls, and hand over hand, i believe that's the saying, abortion rights is winning. how do organizations like yours use that for 2024? 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