>> which would you rather? have >> of course, i think for democrats, there is no shortage of positive feelings that they should have with results like that, but as i have said, the actual -- specter of 2016 looms large. thank you, my friend, we'll have more on all of that, it is a big night tonight. moments ago, nbc news projected that the democrat andy beshear won the kentucky governor's race. again, we'll have more on that, and we'll have even more projections as soon as we get them in. i tell you them, give you all the information. polls just closed in states across the country, states including ohio and virginia and, yes, kentucky. and there are a number of candidates and issues that are on the path. tonight, all eyes are on the issue of abortion. last, year after roe v. wade was overturned, republicans across the country felt the black clash of a ballot box, especially in states where abortion was literally on the ballot. and now, tonight, republicans in multiple states are trying to flip the script, make their anti abortion policies see moderate, while pink think pro-choice democrats as the real extremist. look at what is happening in ohio, where a vote to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution is literally issue one on the ballot tonight. this is how the right is framing that choice. >> late term abortion is real, and so is the pain. one allows that right up to birth, abortions that are too late, too painful and too extreme for ohio. will you stand for victims? please vote no on late term abortion, no an issue when. >> for more on issue one and what is happening in the state of ohio, the great steve kornacki is at the big board, msnbc's national correspondent. steve, what can you tell us my friend? >> off the presses of decision desk, they just made a quality -- we just project that, yes, it will pass, she won, putting the right to abortion and the state constitution in ohio with the provision that restrictions can be applied at the point of viability at the 22, 24 week. as you can see, we get more than a third of the vote here in ohio. yes, it's leading by 17 points right now. just showing folks on christmas show a few minutes ago, what is happening now, count are reporting, getting close to hitting 100% at the, and what we are seeing is that there was a test for the summer, where opponents of this put language and about that said they would raise the threshold to 60% for a constitutional amendment, as an attempt to defeat this. that went down to defeat this summer, and we are seeing in every county, that they're completing, we're seeing results that are basically a mirror image of the summer. the folks who are against raising the threshold are voting for this tonight in basically equal numbers. this summer, that proposal to raise the threshold loss 50 7:43. this thing is, right now, on track to land early in the territory. that is the nbc news projection that this is going to carry, and you can see based on the completed counties that we have had so far, it could be by a pretty healthy margin. >> steve, there is a lot of, shall i say, misdirection from the part of republicans in the state who changed some at the language and the amendment, the language that will be enshrined in the state constitution is not what voters actually voted on tonight. i believe they on different languages to refer to defeat this is of unborn child. there was this back and forth about the early ballot issue in caucus. the bow issue one now in november. can you talk a little bit about what we know about how any of the plate? do we have any information about parts of the state to have come and stronger than expected? >> i think the story is the consistency between the vote to summer and the vote tonight, and it really feels like the folks this summer, who had decided that they wanted to vote for this, voted down the initiative this summer to raise the threshold, and the numbers at the same. that is what i am struck by, the same disciple of this. take washington county right here, we've got almost all the vote in washington county, one of the counties where issue one will fail, but supporters of shulan are sitting at 40 and a half percent in this county, just about all of the vote in. this summer, supporters of she won, presumably voted no this summer, because they did not want to raise the threshold. no in the same county summer got 42. it really does not look like we are not seeing shifts of more than a point or two in these completed counties. it really does feel like, the turnout is higher, it looks like, but it feels like, in many ways, it's a re-run of the summer, and folks on both sides had the same sense then as they do know about what they are voting on. they had their minds made up in both cases. >> just to be clear for everybody at home here, ohio is effectively a red state. this is one of the first times that voters in a red state have been asked to vote affirmatively for reproductive choice, that is correct, right, steve? >> that is a key point going forward. and this is also seen as a model for other red states and swing states in 2024, folks who tried to get this on the ballot in south carolina, for instance, florida, arizona. the difference here, there have been other states that have put abortion rights constitutional amendments in, but blue states like california, new york, vermont, maryland, california, vermont, the two that have done, and maryland are trying, they simply in california around, say that is in the state constitution, the right to an abortion, and they felt no pressure or need to not to any kind of restriction on the. folks here in ohio did feel that pressure, and that is why they assess inserted that language that says restrictions can be placed basically at the 22nd, 24th week, the point of fetal viability, and that is the additional language that you will see exported to those red states, to the swing states, when folks try to do the ballot next year. again, in a place like south carolina, a place like arizona, a place like florida, i think you'll see language allowing for restrictions at the point of fetal viability. there is a test tonight in a red state like ohio, giving that type of provision for a prescription along with the constitutionally mandated right to an abortion. if that counts -- would be politically successful, it clearly is in ohio, and i think that that creates the roadmap for other states, for supporters at this next year. >> we are going to see a lot of playbook development this evening. i want to get into the specifics here on issue one. it was being positioned on the right as a vote of late term abortion. to be clear, if one does not allow abortions to birth on it when. what it does do is a law for abortions around the 23rd week of pregnancy, and then after that, it allows for the health of the mother to be taken into account. if you want answers that if a doctor believes in an abortion, it's necessary to safety life or health at the mother, even though in the pregnancy, then the doctor could legally perform an abortion. now, there is a lot of discussion tonight about what might happen if issue one felt, because the republican majority in the ohio supreme court could have temporarily reinstated a temporary six-week abortion band has no exceptions for rape or incest. we don't think that will supersede what has happened tonight. we have a lot to discuss about what this means for voters in ohio and what it means as an active issue for democrats and republicans in 2024. i want to bring in now, representative chantal brown from ohio, who can talk to us a little bit more about what is going on interstate and what it portends with the rest of the country. >> representative brown, thank you for joining tonight. let me first get your reaction to what has gone down in your state. it looks like voters are voting yes on enshrining the right of reproductive choice in the state's constitution. >> yes, thank you for having me. i would be remiss if i did not think the voters and volunteers who worked at tirelessly to make sure people understood what issue one was about, the importance of voting yes on issue one. as he stated, this is the extreme abortion ban to had no exceptions for rape or incest. it also gives doctors the freedom to get emergency care for miscarriages and access to contraceptives like birth control pills. i could not be more proud and excited about the results that have come in, and i want to thank you candy voters and volunteers who have worked to make it possible. >> i do want to ask you about the attempts by republicans commissioner that this thought pass. the cannery between ballot issue one and august, where supporters of abortion rights were encouraged to vote no, and then there was a another ballot issue, or supporters of reproductive freedom were encouraged to vote yes. there was the poaching of i believe 26,000 voters in late september from the voter registration rules, which is tightly up against the voter registration that nine. some folks were worried about whether it would discourage people from going to the polls, or prevent them from going to the polls. there was even which on the ballot itself, which framed this as a choice around late term abortion, and referred to the fetus as an unborn child. those efforts did not seem to have deterred the voters of ohio for making this a constitutional right for the state, but did you make at them, as they were unfolding? >> i think people heard the message loud and clear, messaging still matters, issues are important, and they made their voices known that the powers the belongs to the people. what we were telling people as it relates to issue one is that it would allow them to make their own health care decisions without the interference of government or fear of being criminalized. that is the bottom line, and that abortion care is health care. as you can see, just like in august, when there was a lot of confusion, this was -- i deemed it as the undercurrent our first step in a two-step dance, but the night was the main event. people were prepared. we started sending the message out in august that he will start voting no in august and in november. people were paying attention. i could not be more proud of the voters. despite republican effort to try to continue to take away our freedoms, suppress, suffocate and ni our voices at the ballot box, the people continue to show up and show out an ohio. i couldn't be more proud again, because so often, so goes ohio, so goes the nation. what we know in cleveland, which is a part of the district i represent, nothing is given, everything is earned. we knew going into the race that it would be a difficult fight, but we worked incredibly hard -- and we were able to deliver incredible results tonight. >> what is your message to national democrats, who may be feeling a bit on their heels with the recent polling? they came out and in your times earlier this week about president biden's chances in 2024, and his numbers vis-à-vis head to head matchup with donald trump in 2024. what advice do you give too worried democrats at this hour? >> there is a not their sayings in politics, there is only two ways to run, on a post or scared. those numbers are very frightening. listen, again, this is not going to be an easy fight. we are ready to roll up our sleeves and work hard, but i would remind voters that polling is just a snapshot in time. the polls don't vote. as we know, when it comes to putting specifically with president joe biden, they have never proven to be favorable to him, but he has always shown when people count them out, they don't know how to count. >> democratic congresswoman chantal brown, thank you for asking the time. congratulations on the within a. >> thanks. >> i mentioned before that we got to the ohio results, that republicans in the state were trying to paint democrats as the radical ones on the issue of abortion. we are seeing a similar strategy play out tonight in the state of virginia. joining me now is congresswoman jennifer mcclellan from virginia. she is a democrat. congresswoman, thank you for being here. for people to have not been following what is going on in your state, governor youngkin is trying to paint republicans as the moderates, sensible one for embracing a 15-week abortion ban, and democrats, as the extremists who abortion on demand until the end of pregnancy. looking at what happened in ohio, how do you think that the governor's efforts are going to fare this evening? >> i don't think that they will fare well. first of, all the voters of virginia want our abortion laws to remain as they are now or be even less restricted. over three fourths of virginia voters, that is what they want. they understand that the decision about when and whether to have an abortion is between pregnant people and the providers. not glenn youngkin, not politicians enrichment or any other capital. they're coming out accordingly. we have seen high turnout in these off, off year elections. that's because people know that their rights are on the ballot, their rights are on the line, and we have worked really hard to make virginia a safe haven for abortion access. it's the only state in the south without a ban, and virginians are coming out today to show that is how we will keep it, and they are not buying what glenn youngkin is setting. >> a talk a little bit more about whether virginia's the last bastion of hope for people needing reproductive choice and the, south and the degree to which that resonate for folks inside virginia, they sent agree, who are more insulated for folks that are in the deep south, concern for the regional citizens who did not have the same freedoms that they do. >> absolutely, back in 2020, i worked to carry a bill that got rid of medical unnecessary restrictions to abortion that were legal under roe. virginians wanted to. when roe fell, they understood that all of the parkas could be undone, and they did not want to be undone, and they were angry. i heard all over virginia, and i traveled all over virginia this year and campaigning for over 50 candidates and 82 events, and people were upset that they were the first generation at their family to lose the constitutional right. and that in virginia, knowing the governor youngkin, with the trifecta, would ban abortion and nowhere between new mexico and the atlantic ocean, would you be able to get an abortion if you and your provider felt that that was the right thing to do in your case. and virginia voters do not want to. >> jennifer, in terms of governor youngkin, he has been seen at the vanguard of some of the republican policies that have become sort of national strategies. he was one of the first people to seize on the idea of crt to try to weaponize it for social division and political gain. he is a leader in row testing this notion that republicans are for a moderate abortion limit. they are not calling the 15-week ban a ban. they're calling it a limit, trying to suggest, as i said before, to that democrats are the shin once. they are not even limiting choice saying, reasonable people favor the myths. can i ask you, given his success on crt, is their expectation that no matter what happens in virginia tonight, youngkin's laboratory testing on abortion could be something that we see replicated by republicans across the country, who understand that their party is not with the american public on a very important issue that drives voters to the polls? 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so de soto county, this is a biggie, 50 a 40, it's an 18-point margin right now for reeves. we'll see what happens with the remaining vote, but the margin in the county for reeves in 2019 was 23 points. that is exactly five points, exactly the level of movement that pressley needs to see in county after county. cut the reeves margin five points in every county, or if he can increase the democratic margin five points to the counties that they want, that puts him in a position to potentially win this thing. that's why i think that is a significant -- it's not all, but i think it's a significant number there with three fourth evil in. the other big piece of news in mississippi is right here, where the state capital jackson is. hinds county, the biggest county in the state, and they won out of ten votes will come out of this county, and one at the strategic emphases of the presley campaign has been outreach to black voters, a major component of the population in mississippi trying to, if you get black turnout as possible, hinds county, not only the biggest county in the state, it's 70% african american. earlier today, turnout was so high, they ran out of ballots in hines county. they have kept the polls open in hunts county. they are closed throughout the rest of the state. we don't have any number sunday biggest county in the state, and a maybe a while until we get any numbers. but the biggest county in the state, 70% black county, particular emphasis on the pressley campaign, that is an interesting wildcard as a novice come in mississippi. >> what could he tell us about the third party candidate on the screen, undulant gray, who is getting 1.2% of the vote in the soto county, but how meaningful is that overall? >> a shoe overall. it is potentially meaningful. wonderland gray actually dropped out of the race. she is no longer an active candidate, but she jumped out after the deadline to get your name off at the bell. she jumped out and endorsed pressley, but as you say, she is at 1.5%. keep this in mind, if this does develop into a very close race, mississippi is a runoff state. it's not enough to finish for the most votes tonight, you have to 50% plus one, so if there is a scenario, too early to say, if we ever get there, but if there is a scenario where reeves and pressley are like one point a partly at night, it could be that both fall short of 50% because of the, right now, one and a half vote now for the third party candidate. if that were to happen, there would be no winner declared tonight. it would be a runoff three weeks now. >> steve, let's talk a little bit about tate reeves. we are talking about andy beshear in kentucky earlier hours, being one of the most popular governors and the country. he has defied the logic of these partisan times by being popular, even among republicans, as a sitting governor in a red state. tate reeves has his own package in mississippi. can talk about how the scandals have personally eroded his popularity in the state? >> certainly, a welfare funding scandal, money that had gone to the former nfl player brett favre's. it dominated the news, what seems like for a couple years right now in mississippi. it's similar in a way to what republicans were hoping for in kentucky. in kentucky, they were hoping that the weight of being associated with an unpopular national democratic party, unpopular democratic president and kentucky, would bring down and the pressure, even though he was well liked and had a high job approval rating. republicans and mississippi are looking at, reefs and they are not seeing somebody with the level of a job approval performance that bashir had a kentucky. they're seeing an incumbent with softer numbers. there are hoping that in mississippi, which biden lost by 16 points, that it will tip towards biden and the national democratic party will save reeves. now, presley is an interesting story to. he is a relative of of us pressley, who is like royalty in mississippi. his run a campaign in some ways that have hit conservative themes, especially on abortion, that could resonate with the conservative electorate, if they are looking for a bridge away from tate reeves, pressley offered a few on social and cultural issues as. well >> the last thing pressley does not her in a state like mississippi. steve kornacki, there is a lot to unpack, a lot of analysis to come. thank you, my friend for the latest results. we're going to have more on all of this as the hour unfolds. we'll go back to that vote in ohio tonight, where voters decided to vote yes and enshrine abortion rights into the state constitution, but first, the pros and cons of running against criminally indicted republican nominee. with the biden white house can and should do about candidate defendant donald trump. julián castro joins me to talk about all of that. stay with us. ay with us it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. millions of children are fighting to survive due to inequality, conflict, poverty and the climate crisis. save the children® is working alongside communities to provide a better life for children. and there's a way you can help. please call or go online to give just $10 a month. only $0.33 a day. we urgently need 1000 new monthly donors in the next 30 days to help the children we support around the world. you can help provide food, medicine, care and protection, plus so much more that a child needs by calling right now and giving just $10 a month. all we need are 1000 monthly donors in the next 30 days. please call or go online now with your monthly gift of just $10. thanks to generous government grants every dollar you give can have up to ten times the impact. and when you call with your credit card, we will send you this save the children® tote bag as a thank you for your support. your small monthly donation of just $10 could be the reason a child in crisis survives. please call or go online to hungerstopsnow.org to help save lives today. are you still struggling with your bra? 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[applause] kentucky is on a historic win streak, the two best years of economic development in the history at the commonwealth of kentucky. we are building the brent spence companion bridge without paul's. [applause] we are for leaning the entire mountain park way [applause] . and we are pushing i 69 forward so fast, that indiana scrambling to catch up [applause] . we're bringing clean drinking water to our counties, and we are running high-speed internet access to every home in kentucky. [applause] we're building the two biggest battery plants on planet earth. [applause] and the cleanest, greenest recycle mill in this country. [applause] we have record high budget surpluses and record low unemployment. we have created almost 50,000 new jobs, 27.8 billion dollars in new private sector investment, so tonight, i stand here excited, and optimistic about what we will do these next four years together. [applause] [crowd chanting] >> or more years! for more years! for more years! >> over the next four years, it's time for a couple of things. first, it's time to get our educators the big pay raise that they deserve. [applause] it's time for universal pre-k for every kentucky child. [applause] we are going to keep attracting new jobs and industries, building our workforce, building the kentucky that we have always dreamed of. it's amazing that we're here, because we have been through a lot to get there. devastating tornadoes in the west, historic flooding in the east, and after each, i have made a promise, a promise that i would help rebuild every home and every life. thanks to the people of kentucky, and thanks to this election, we are going to see that promise there. [applause] >> you are listening to kentucky democratic governor andy beshear, who in recent weeks was expected to have a somewhat tight battle against daniel cameron, the state a.g.. but with 87% of the vote in, they got a governor, democrat, has a healthy six point lead. i want to bring in former house secretary and presidential candidate julián castro. mister secretary, listening to the incumbent democratic governor of kentucky, who has a healthy lead, and the race has been called for him taking a victory lap there, this is not about the right or left, it's about projecting team -- after one against someone, showing division, not so division, politics is over. granted, this is the state of kentucky that donald trump won by, i believe, 20 points. and a democrat who survived to be a two term governor here, remarkable story for these times, but how do you look at the events this evening. >> there is no other way to interpret this tonight. they say is a great night for democrats. it is also, alex, as you know, a soothing warm shot of kentucky bourbon to ease all of the anxiety that national democrats have been feeling for the last couple of days since that new york times poll came out and about their recent polling, the nervousness about the 2024 cycle. all of the caveats to apply. we're still a year away from 2024. these were state elections. there was not a single congressional representative, senator or president biden was not on the ballot, but this does give democrats some important lessons, and governor beshear alluded to that right there. you have to be for something and go on offense. he did that on the issue of protecting the right to choose. he did that, pushing back against the cultural warriors, specifically the attack on trans kids. we saw how powerful the issue of reproductive freedom was in ohio tonight and also in virginia. it looks like democrats have at least retained the state senate, there and they will be able to block young governor youngkin from jacksonian abortion legislation. there are some lessons here, and democrats should turn them. it also means for joe biden that this is a roadmap going forward. it's good that the campaign needs to make some adjustments and needs to address a weakness, not only did pull the other day, but many polls have shown poor democratic constituencies. this is the reset in starting off point for. that >> didn't let the biden team needs to draw more of a direct contrast with trump? we know from reporting on spending, that i believe the biden campaign and the dnc spent roughly $7 million on positive tv ads this year, along with less than $100 unconscious ads that named trump. the wisdom was that the republican primary season would do enough damage to trump that people like ron desantis or nikki haley or tim scott would go after trump effectively enough that biden would have. to that has not turned out to be the case at all. do you think that is not incumbent upon the sitting president to more specifically call out donald trump and is 91 felony counts? >> this is going to sound like a contradiction from what i said a second ago but, yes, you had to be for something and joe biden's campaign, i think has laid out all of the different great accomplishments that he has under his belt, but the best thing that joe biden has going for him in 2024 was the best thing that i think he had going for him in 2020, how terrible donald trump is, when you put his record in front of the american people, and that record has only gotten worse with 91 criminal indictments, four different trials, maybe going on by the time we had the election in november 2020, four and he may be convicted, in which case, all bets are off. absolutely, the biden campaign needs to spend resources or focus and attention on reminding people how bad, how uniquely terrible a president donald trump was, and the thing is, right now, trump is on tv, and that works because of his testimony in the trials and so forth, but he is not on every day. he's not reminded people by being in office about how bad a president was. i think he is benefiting from that. those primary moments for him are too scared to point out his failures and weaknesses, so it will fall upon the biden campaign to start with earlier than they wanted to, but if they don't, they risk trump getting a free ride all the way until next summer or fall, and i think that would be a mistake. >> do you think, to that end, trump's relative, and i put the word relative in italics, silence in terms of xenophobic, racist commentary and instead focus on election interference and the criminal future that awaits him in 2024 in terms of trials, do you think that is what trump has been seemingly able to make inroads with voters of color? i know that the biden campaign has looked at the latest campaign for biden support, for example, for latinos, is very worried that there may be some significant realignment here, in the way that the party's, where the parties to draw their basis for? >> yeah, i think you saw a preview of this and the 2020 election, after 2016, i think if you asked people, what was the defining issue for trump in that campaign against hillary clinton, it was immigration, and i noticed, and, of course, he was as bad on immigration as he was before, but he shut up about it a little bit before. he was not a strident, did not put that out there in the same way as in 2020. he did better numbers, a little bit better with the latinos. what the biden campaign is to do is to remind those voters, those core constituencies what he stands for, what biden stands for and then how bad trump has been. donald trump is going to do everything he can to try to hoodwink voters, including latino voters in places like florida, and south texas and i am sure parts of arizona, nevada, to make them think that, yeah, i would be better than my reputation, but i think that enough people are going to be able to see through that, if they are reminded of the checkered of the words and actions of trump and the pass. >> if we are learning anything for the night, it is effective campaigning, people will show up for you. it is a big night tonight, secretary castro, thank you for helping me make sense of all of this within the context of the big race that with assault in 2024. thank you for your time tonight. >> no worries. >> coming up, ohioans voted to protect abortion rights today despite republican attempts to make the process very confusing ordeal indeed. we'll discuss right after the break. stay with us. with us he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? 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>> you know, i didn't want to have too much hope. i was very cautiously optimistic, but i'm not surprised, actually. i think ohio voters, just like voters everywhere else, are uninterested indian lied to, and that's what republicans try to do here. they tried to lie to them about this amendment. they tried to trick them. they try to hold up their ability to even vote for the amendment at all. and i think what we saw tonight was a lot of righteous anger, not just about abortion rights, but about those attacks on democracy as well. >> can i just talk to about the attempts to frame what republicans are pushing for? nationally it's a 15-week abortion ban in the state of virginia. governor youngkin saying a 15-week ban is just a limit. the moderates. the democrats are the extremists because they want to abortion on demand up to the moment of birth. that framing, litigating this of third trimester, which is where people who have abortions have them because the life of the fetus of the mothers in danger, they are vanishing lee rare. that strategy didn't work in ohio. nonetheless, it feels like this is a new playbook for 2024. don't litigate choice, litigates timeframe. >> and litigate language. what we saw in virginia, and what the national antiabortion word is interested in is ensuring their candidates and the media don't call abortion bans bans. in virginia we saw multiple candidates come out with campaign ands ads said it's not a ban. i don't support an abortion ban. because they know that americans really don't like abortion bans. they are incredibly unpopular. so they're trying to distance themselves from these bands and paint this 15-week ban. they're calling it a reasonable compromise. but it's completely ridiculous, both because it's not accurate and because we know that they're not going to stop at 15 weeks. susan b anthony, pro-life america, big national anti-abortion groups, didn't spend millions of dollars in places like ohio and virginia to stop with 15 weeks. >> do you think that parental consent is the other sort of bogeyman in a lot of these conversations, having nothing to do with abortion on any issue, republicans always want you to inject parental consent is the reason why you should not support something or support depending on what it is. that again fell flat here. i wonder what you think about it's staying power as a line of argument for republicans intent on passing abortion bans? >> i just don't think they can get around talking about the truth, which is that they want to ban abortion. they want to take control of people's bodies and lives and freedom. and people know. that voters don't lie to be tricked. they don't like to be lied to. the other big message we saw was anti-trans bigotry. they know that they're antichoice talking points were truly unpopular and so they were hoping that anti trans bigotry and parental rights will be a little bit more popular, and clearly that wasn't the case. >> jessica valenti, big night for democrats and progressive causes this evening, for freedoms reliant. thanks for your time. coming up, we will talk about the election results tonight in virginia, where democrats are hoping to hold the state senate against republicans. we'll be back at the big board with americas sweetheart, steve kornacki. that's next. that's next. oh, hello! hi! do you know that every load of laundry could be worth as much as $300? really? and your clothes just keep getting more damaged the more times you wash them. downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see? 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>> let's take you through here. we've got a running tally of the seats as they are called in both chambers. as a reminder, this is the senate you are looking at. coming in tonight, democrats had control of the veggies state senate. 22 to 18. tonight currently we have 17 seats for the democrats and 14 seats that are called for the republicans. now a couple of critical developments have happened tonight in terms of what has been called. a republican incumbent state senator has been, has lost, has gone down to defeat. so again, republicans need to be making gains here, not losing seats. there are also two senate state districts in northern virginia now. one republican held, the other democrat held. we are in the vote tally. this is significant voting on and the democrats are leading the vote tally in both of them. there's still more to be counted, we're not exactly sure where in those districts the outstanding vote is, but there are some encouraging signs there for democrats and some troubling signs, i think, for republicans, in terms of what has been counted so far on the state senate side. the goal here for glenn youngkin, republican governor, was to flip the state senate and then to hang on to the house of delegates. the republicans came in tonight with 50 8:42 for the house of delegates. declared his 42 for the democrats and 32 for the republicans, and again this includes a seat that republicans held. that they have lost. and you look at it here and it seems to be a number of seats as well where democrats, again, at the returns are not full. there is still wiggle room in them. democrats lead a number of seats that they would need to flip this chamber. we'll see if that holds as they come in. what we were looking for, i think, in virginia, coming into tonight, there's a whole bunch of districts that had voted for joe biden in the presidential election and had voted for glenn youngkin in the governor's election. i think what you are seeing is a lot of these republican candidates outperforming trump, certainly. they're not all reaching youngkin levels in these districts. >> i know governor youngkin's gonna be paying particular attention to all of this given his involvement in the race thus far. steve kornacki, thanks as always. always good to have you here on a big election nights. that is our show for this evening. now it's time for the last word with my friend, lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. my fr>> good evening, alex. don't let steve kornacki go anywhere. >> i can't. the walls would fall down on a night like this if we did not have steve kornacki here to about this buttress our efforts. >> we're going to need. when >> we all do. >> the breaking news at this hour tonight is that kentucky's democratic governor andy beshear has
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