plus mary trump is here to preview her uncle's big day in court tomorrow as the ex president gets ready to testify at his own civil fraud trial. and gaza suffered another communications blackout amid intense israeli bombardment. i'll talk with a top israeli official who resigned citing quote genocide of the palestinians. good evening welcome to the show i'm mehdi hasan. it's november 5th,, 2023 which means exactly a year from now, november the 5th, 2024 americans will go to the polls to pick their president. it looks almost certain that they will be picking between joe biden and donald trump. the choice that americans are saying in poll after poll that they do not want a rerun of 2020. they don't want dramatic democratic and republican candidates with names biden and trump. but here we are. and here's the bad news for team biden in particular. if the election were held not a year for now but today, the twice impeached four times indicted indicted donald trump would win the electoral college with 300 votes easily defeating president biden. that's according to a new poll out today from new york times and siena college which shows biden losing to trump and five of the six keystone battle states. iowa, georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, michigan. the president's lead only in wisconsin by only two percentage points there. it's worth noting that joe biden carried all six of these states back in 2020. but that's not all. the new poll also points to several other glaring liabilities for the president, including his age. 71% of voters surveyed say that biden who will turn 81 later this month, is too old to be an effective president. that includes a remarkable 54% of his own supporters. the same doesn't apply we early to 77 year old donald trump. over 39% of the electorate say that he's too old to hold office. another issue hitting biden is the economy. voters by a 57% margin trust dump trump over biden on economic issues. that's the largest gap on any issue survey in that poll. that's despite the fact that last week we learned that strong consumer spending drove the geo dp do its biggest rise. now unemployment is at its lowest rates in nearly 50 years. people don't seem to care in the polling. it is also growing concern that president president biden's mental fitness. according to the poll, 53% of the voters say the president does not have the mental sharpness to be effective. and yet believe it or not only 44% of voters only believe the same of donald trump. how are trumps declining mental acuity is kind of hard to ignore. here is just last night in florida delivering another incoherent rambling mad speech. >> many, many terrorists are coming in. thousands of middle aged men are coming in, young men are coming in. everybody saying, how can they are all so young and so strong. and they are coming from china. everything is a lie. the whole thing is a lie. the whole election was a lie. [applause] why would i do a debate when christy sir i'm sorry he is not a fat pig this man. he is not a fat pig! [applause] it's true. you can't use the term fat. you are allowed to use the word pig but not fat. >> he sounds totally mentally fit to be president for it to me. but perhaps what we will start finding from that new poll from the times is this. biden trails trump by five points naturally but when voters were asked about hypothetical not involving biden but a generic democrat, that candidate actually leads trump by eight points. that's a 13-point swing. so to call these poll results other than anything than savage for the president of the united states of the democratic party, and let's face it for the future of the democracy would be an understatement. to pretend things will be fine and will be fine is mad. having said all that and let me say again tonight as i've said many times before on this show. we do need to calm down a bit, get some perspective, especially historical perspective. yes, the polls are bad for the sitting president but we are still one year exactly one year out the biden campaign for reelection hasn't yet fully launched. the trump criminal trials, four of them haven't yet started and we know the incumbent president elect barack obama and ronald reagan also trailed their opponents at the stage as well. only to emerge victorious a year later. we also know that biden's poor approval ratings didn't help hurt democrats in the midterms either. they held on to the senate and, prevented a red wave in the house. they did it by focusing on abortion rights and voting rights, which they can't and presumably will in the next year. and in the meantime, trump is giving democrats ample amount to use against him almost daily. according to reporting from the washington post out this morning, trump and his allies have already started mapping a specific plans for his second term revenge mission. the post reports that trump wants to exploit the power of the federal government to punish the parliaments in critics, using the department of justice to investigate longtime officials, and previous allies who become critical of him. but he doesn't want to just take over the doj. advisors for the ex president of suggested deploying military to quell possible unrest of day one on his presidency. his associates have been come invoking -- >> the insurrection act on encouraging day to target civil demonstrations. so it is very clear exactly what is at stake in this next election. still, the democrats probably want to find the right balance between calm and complacent. let's be clear. it would be crazy for the biden and the democrats to ignore the age issue which just won't go away for him. would be crazy for biden and the democrats to ignore how their message on the economy backfired, yes actual facts and figures are still not getting through to people. would be crazy for biden in the democrats to ignore the massive ruptures in the base, especially the young people of color and muslims who, are opposed to the administration's unconditional support of israel's bombardment of the gaza strip. according to recent rating, among democrats his approval rating has tumbled 11 points in the last month. he's now at 75% which is the lowest it is ever been during his presidency. the truth is, as much harder for the democratic party leader in charge of a party whose base is actually diverse that is actually a coalition of younger and older white and non white voters, quote unquote moderates and quote unquote progressive's. it's much harder for a democratic party leader to keep that relationship intact, and energized in an era of political polarization and yes war. a war in the middle east, i want to be very blunt with you. because of the backlash we are seeing from young voters, arab american voters in swing states like michigan and pennsylvania, a war that could end up costing joe biden reelection. the republican base on the other hand, rather conveniently for donald trump is pretty white, pretty old, pretty universally conservative. in the era of trump, it's become pretty cultish. so the gap behind him, crimes and all. the only thing we can say for certain is once again, everything is riding on the next election. and once again, it's just too close to call. joining me now to discuss all of this, democratic congressman jamal bowman of new york. congressman thanks for coming back in the show. let's start with that paul. it's no secret that joe biden was not the first choice for you and your progressives back in 2020. you have endorsed his reelection, yet today's poll shows that even a nameless democrat fares better against trump in 2024. is it time for democrats such as yourself to consider an alternative for joe biden. even former advisor from obama david axelrod is suggesting that. today >> it's time that we have to remain calm, because we are one year out from the election. i think it's time for us to be anything but calm. i think we have to get to the business of urging, organizing boots on the ground, really engaging voters in a direct an authentic way and not just people like myself. the white house needs to do an exceptional job of this because as you mentioned in your open, people of color are disengaged. muslims are disengaged. the arab community is vehemently excuse me upset at the presidents handling of what is happening in gaza. so there is a large part of the democratic base that is struggling to come around to continue to support president biden. so urgent organizing has to be number one on our agenda, so we can hopefully turn this around by next year. because i at the moment do not see another candidate rising up from the ashes and coming to oppose trump. i do not see that happening right now, so we have to support what we have. >> so you suggest that the white house needs to be doing much more. or come back to gaza in a moment but just on domestic politics, i want to get your reaction to that new reporting from the washington post about trump's plot for revenge. she's already planning to use the doj to punish his critics, he wants to deploy the military against demonstrators if he wins, and despite these terrifying and i might say fascist accra ports, he still leads against biden in all the polls. on specific issues like national security and mental fitness. surely the democrats have to own some of that, the failure to properly hold trump to account, to message about him. this biden white house wants to stay above the fray and not talk about trump, yet here you are a year out from the election and donald trump is leading? >> well, trump has a very loyal base. he has a base that no matter what he does, they seem to continue to support him. and he has a base that wants to see transformation of leadership and they think he's the leadership that can provide that transformation for them, especially if they are white nationalists. this is a president who attempted a coup d'état, and thankfully was unsuccessful. i'm very worried about what is going to happen in our country and to our democracy if he gets back into office. i've heard many people say, they don't think he's going to leave, he's going to figure out a way to stay in office. and in terms of policies coming from the republican party, they don't have a chance when you compare their policies to what's happening in the democratic party over the last several years. and to your point about the economy, that's a big point, because no matter how much we are seeing the job growth and all of that, people are still struggling with affordability, and that's an issue that we have to hold the republican party accountable for. how do you make life more affordable for the american people? they are really not doing anything on that front. >> no they are not, and yet as i say they continued to lead in the polls in the national level. i do want to talk about gaza. before i get to that, when i ask you about the recent guilty plea to a misdemeanor after you pulled a firearm at the capitol in september. at the same time you say you pulled the alarm by mistake on the way to a vote. but now you're pleading guilty. do you think that what you did was wrong or wasn't a mistake? which one? >> both. it was a mistake and it was wrong. it was in violation of d. c. law, so i had to take responsibility for that which i did. i look forward to paying a fine. i look forward to it being dismissed in three months, so it was both a mistake, both from, i take responsibility for what i did, and looking forward to moving on and continuing to serve my district. >> let's talk about gaza congressman. how much damage is joe biden support for israel doing to the democratic base, and how much is that going to cost him in places like michigan where younger voters, arab american voters. thanks to that new poll from the times, we know he's struggling before this war. could this war cost him reelection? >> yes it could. and let me just be very clear. it's one thing to support israel which the u.s. has always done and will continue to do. it's another thing to never it's another thing to never hold israel accountable for their behavior, whether it is relayed to the occupation, the ultimate prison that is gaza, or the war crimes that are taking place right now during this siege. israel is very clear from the beginning, we're gonna cut off water, food, electricity. they have used white phosphorus. in terms of collective punishment, that is what is happening right now. moving half the country, excuse me half the strip to one half of the other strip, in 24 hours. these are things that president biden has not been strong enough in holding israel to account. and the muslim community, the arab community and palestinians hear that loud and clear and receive as erasure and further receive it as the immunization. that's where this president has to do better, but this is where the united states has to do better as well, because it's not just this president or this war. this is historical. historical just continuing to support israel without the proper peace and accountability lettuce to what happened on october 7th but also what is happening now. >> congressman, you say could cost him reelection. could this war cost you reelection from the other direction? because you're hosting an event against antisemitism and you have condemned timeouts, you are still facing massive blow back for a call to a cease-fire. jewish leaders in your district have denounced you. they've called for a primary challenger against you. are you willing to lose your seat again for your stance on gaza? >> my job and why i ran for office and why i was elected twice was to provide moral leadership and moral clarity to this district. and while 26 rallies did write a letter to someone to encourage into primary me, 50 individuals who are part of an organization called jews forge amount wrote a letter opposing the rabbis letter in support of my reelection and so as we know jewish communities the community is diverse but i think it's important at this moment to recognize the pain in the trial of the jewish community is experiencing as a result of the hamas terrorist attacks on october 7th, while also doing the work on the ground to fight against antisemitism and anti-hate in a real way. not political pandering, not virtual signaling, not passing resolutions in congress that are gonna do anything, but the pandering i am talking about, we've got to do the work in the ground and make sure we deal with antisemitism and ideation all those forms. >> well said. last question. you're one of the 20 or so members of congress who have called for a cease-fire. there's clearly a moral case for that. but what do you say to critics who argue that a cease-fire would allow hostages to regroup, re-arm, and attack israel again? >> you know, when you look at how we caught osama bin laden, we were surgical, we were strategic, we used special forces to get osama bin laden. we can do the same to get a hamas. because it is crystal clear that hamas needs to be dealt with and deconstructed. but indiscriminately bombing innocent civilians, 10,000 dead, 4000 children, any conflict that leads to the death of one child tells us that we need to take a different approach. and so, this approach right now is killing tens of thousands of civilians, injuring tens of thousands more, and is not the approach we need to take. finally, at the end of this, not even at the end, right now, we need to be pursuing a diplomatic approach. not just ending this conflict, but finally developing in building and creating a palestinian state. because service to that issue also has been something that has contributed to the violence that's been ongoing for decades. >> congressman jamal bowman, on that note, we'll have to leave it there. thank you for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> after the break, i'll speak with a top u. n. official who resigned after accusing the united nations of failing to address what he calls a textbook 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there are still civilians, protected by international humanitarian law. they still can't be targeted. the kind of people who think you can target people for death because they voted the wrong way are people like osama bin laden. that's literally what he claimed in his open letter to america back in 2002. casualties, however, and gaza continue to mount, according to the gaza health ministry, at least 9770 people have been killed in total since october the 7th, including 4008 children. in washington, d. c. on saturday, huge crowds of protesters turned out to demand the biden administration call for a cease-fire and an end to the fighting. and last week, a senior u. n. official in the new york office of the high commissioner for human rights quit the organization, denouncing the u. n.'s feelings stance on the conflict. and his resignation letter, human rights -- who worked for the u. n. for three decas referred to the, quote, wholesale slaughter of the palestinian people, and described it as a textbook case of genocide. in a statement to the guardian, united nations responded to his statement, calling them his personal views, and saying in part, quote, the position of the office on the situation and the opt to pride palestinian territories and gaza are as reflected and our reports and public statements. craig mokhiber joins me now. craig, thanks so much for coming on the show. you left the one last week, and then your last letter to your boss, the u. n. high commissioner for human rights, you attacked the u. n. for failing to stop the war in gaza, and you called what israel is doing a textbook case of genocide. you know that's an explosive accusation for many. it's been a lot of pushback. people say it's hyperbole, it's a misuse of the term. you're an international human rights lawyer. you are -- making the case to our viewers for what you believe were seeing in gaza right now meets the legal definition for genocide. >> first of all, my critique was not of the entire yuan. i want to be very clear that i'm not criticizing those heroic humanitarian -- represent the frontline, dozens of workers who've been killed under israeli bombs in the last few weeks. in fact, people who work for the one all over the world who are very serious about the norms and standards of the organization. my critique is about the political side of the house in the win. i really believe they have abandoned those workers, as well as abandoning people on the ground. i know that genocide is a very politicized term. i know it's often abused. because of the politics, it is sometimes denied where it exists, and it asserted where it does not exist. but for international law, there's a few exceptional things here. one is the number of specific acts in the u. n. but genocide convention that have been perpetrated by israel against the civilian population of gaza, including potentially causing serious harm, including bodily harm, imposing conditions of life that are designed to bring about their destruction. we know about this. the closure of the siege on gaza -- specifically designed to do so. and, you know, a number of other acts we could talk about. but what is remarkable here is how explicit israeli leaders have been about genocidal intent. normally, the difficult thing to prove, and matters of genocide, is intent. here, we've had the prime minister, the president, cabinet ministers, a senior military official, all explicitly declaring genocidal intent on the record and in public. so there's no question that there is at least a -- case of genocide that is being perpetrated here. i think the context is also important here. because this is just the latest in a series of ethnic purges of areas of historic palestine that started in 1948 and have continued to this day. incrementally in the west bank, to be sure, and in jerusalem, but in a very wholesale way now in gaza. i think it's really important that the u. n., which is the guardian of these international norms and standards, calls a spade a spade. and when you have such a clear cases this, the term genocide needs to be applied. >> craig, what would you say to defenders of israel who say were attacking hamas, not the palestinian people, and if it was a genocide, we would've killed 100,000 people by now, not 10,000. we won't be calling people telling them to live their homes before we strike. we wouldn't be dropping -- what's your sponge to that line of argument, which i'm sure you've heard? >> first of all, that is not a legal defense, to be clear. we can talk about the degree to which it's a moral defense, even less so. but the idea that you're pursuing an enemy does not give you carte blanche to use massive weaponry in a disproportionate way without distinguishing between civilians and combatants, as israel has clearly been doing. you have to be incredibly naive or mendacious to think that when you have this number of civilians being killed with each attack relative to whatever minute number of presumed combatants are being hit, that this is just an effort to reach those combatants. the massive destruction that we are witnessing and gaza is clearly intended to clear gaza, to move gaza at, at least large portions, if not all of gaza, southward, and to make it uninhabitable. and if there was an intent, for example, to hold to account perpetrators of war crimes on the 7th of october, there are ways to do that under the rule of law that don't involve wholesale massacres of civilians. there's an obligation of distinction. there's an obligation of precaution under international humanitarian law. and none of those obligations have been met. and when you pair them with statements of intent, it's very clear that there is a preacher. and by the way, a breach also by western countries like the united states and the united kingdom, that are actively facilitating israel's onslaught. because they too have obligations under international humanitarian law and not just to respect what's in the geneva conventions, but to ensure respect vis-à-vis other parties over whom they have influence. and rather than trying to ensure respect, we've also seen complicity demonstrated by the funding, the army, the provision of intelligence support, the provision of diplomatic cover all the way up to the security council with the use of -- to prevent even a cease-fire or the protection of civilians and gaza. so this really is -- my appeal to the u. n. was to move away from amorphous political approaches and return to international law. and that's what international law says, mehdi. >> last question for you, craig. your critics would say, as i'm sure you've heard, you are biased against israel. the guardian reported this week that the u. n. was reviewing your social media posts, apparently, after a pro israel group complained about them. some people might say you didn't criticize the u. n.'s failure in yemen, or failure in sudan, or syria, but you did over gaza. what do you say to them? >> well, i did in my letter express my frustration with previous failures by the united nations. and i think it's fair enough to lodge that could talk if someone only spoke about one country. i've been 32 years at the u. n.. i've dealt with dozens of countries on all continents. i've criticize human rights violations by all of those countries, i've never been attacked for those critiques. in the u. n., the only time you get criticized is when you dared to raise israeli violations of palestinian human rights. and of course there are israeli lobby groups who are constantly bringing complaints to the u. n. about human human rights officials who dale to criticize israeli violations, even taking it sometimes to smearing you as an antisemite. we've been making the case over and over again -- i think it bears repeating, that criticizing israeli human rights violations is not antisemitic, just as a criticism of saudi violations is not islamophobic, criticism of myanmar violations is not anti buddhist. if any of those are true, then there's no place for an international human rights framework. if it only applies to israel, that, i have said, is a racist proposition to suggest that only palestinians cannot have their human rights defendant. either one of those propositions is unacceptable, and i think we see very well that there are, with these accusations of bias, we see people all over the world standing up to reject this, to not be intimidated by it. we see jewish protesters standing alongside muslim, christian, and other protesters, saying that this is a question of international law, of international human rights, and of human dignity, and not being intimidated by these kinds of smears. neither am i, mehdi. >> craig mokhiber, we'll have to leave it there. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> after the break, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has a new message for donald trump. don't forget, you can listen to the mehdi show for free 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after all, the former president has told us all the time just how good his memory is. >> i have a very good memory. >> i'm blessed with a great memory. it's called, like, up here, and it's called memory, and it's called other things. one of the great memories of all time. >> based on his own words, you'd have to assume donald trump has a best memory, a best of all time. but then again, this is the same donald trump who said i don't remember, it 35 times during his deposition -- when donald trump becomes the first former president to testify in court tomorrow, i have a feeling we'll be seeing that version of him all over again. i don't recall. and then, there is ivanka trump, whose own memory problems we don't quite know about yet, but who clearly has a case of bad judgment. she actually tried to avoid taking the stand by arguing she would suffer, quote, undue hardship if he was forced to testify, quote, in the middle of a school week. yeah. can't do it during a school week. fortunately, new york attorney didn't buy that bit of ridiculousness and denied her request. she's not scheduled to testify on wednesday of this coming week. we'll see if her and her father followed don, and eric, and comes up with a case of i don't recall-itis. coming up next, who better to ask about the trump memory problems than mary trump? 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how do you put donald trump understand? and he put him under oath. the man isn't walking perjury trap. if you were his lawyer, when you just have your head in your hands tonight sunday night? >> well they should be, but when i found interesting that his lawyers behavior in the last week certainly is that they seem to be acting as if they are not in a courtroom either. they seem to be goading the judge. the judge expanded the gag order that applied previously only to donald to include his counsel. and i am wondering if they actually have forgotten that the judge is not donald's pace. he cannot be spun, he is going to be looking at the facts and evidence. and i think that they would be putting themselves and their client in a very difficult position if they cannot impress upon him that he needs either to tell the truth or keep his mouth shut. i don't know how much control they have at this point because again they seem to be feeding into donald's own desires about how this case needs to be going. >> i would pay to be a fly on the wall when the lawyer for donald trump tells donald trump you need to tell the truth about perjury herself. let's talk about your cousin ivanka who had a pretty amazing excuse for not being able to testify, or to try to avoid testifying in this civil fraud case. she said she would do undue hardship if he was meant to testify in the middle of a school work. it's kind of amazing if she thought she would have a chance for that kind of argument is it not? >> well as you said, it's very difficult to be a member of a founding crime syndicate. but i think it just speaks to the breathtaking entitlement of these people that they don't even think that other people are going to look at their past behavior to realize that they leave their kids home all the time. plus, they probably have lots of help that most people with young children don't have. she also seems to have forgotten that she has a husband who can presume presumably take care of their children. >> that of the year, jared does this go around. let me ask you this, a set of new york college police found that 62% of registered voters in battleground states think that biden doesn't have the mental sharpness to be president. just 44% said the same about donald trump. we are only three years away from the trump presidency and then, that car crash, from the ptsd that many of us suffered. but apparently americans, not just the trump kids have real memory problems. i'm just memory hold on how bad it was and how unhinged your uncle was and is. you are a psychologist, we make that pull funding? >> i think it has to do with what takes getting exposure. for accepting zap, we been hearing endlessly about joe biden's age not just from right-wing media that are in the tenth for donald, it everywhere. we see it on the headlines of major newspapers. what we don't hear about is donald's increasing inability to remember where he is or who is president of where or whom he ran against in the last election, because i think that the greatest danger we are facing in this particular contest is that donald's agree just behavior from his criminality to his mendacity, to his lack of intelligence and his total unfitness, it's just baked in. so it's not news, it's not pointed out, it's just a given. so people don't even pay attention to it anymore. that's very concerning. >> so let me ask you this, quick last question. i have been saying for a while that there will be violence at the next election because trump will either lose, in which case his supporters will not take it well as we saw last time. or he winds and he deploys the state against his opponents, we are seeing washington post reporting saying he might use the military to quell a protest on election day. how early are you about? violence >> i didn't think it was possible, but i'm much more worried about it than i was in 2020, and i was extraordinarily worried about in 2020. because what we have learned, what some of us were saying at the time, when many more of us have learned and the interim, that donald will stop at nothing. if he feels like he is going down, he will take all of us down with him, he's going to burn everything down to the ground to stay out of jail, to stay out of trouble, to stay in power, what have you. we cannot pretend that that is not the road we are on, and honestly, i think things will be at much worse if he does get in the white house which we need to prevent at all costs. >> mary trump, always a pleasure, although dark note to an. thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up at the top of the hour with ayman mohyeldin, i will join him to talk about donald trump who will be testing our legal system. but first we will talk about some dangerous rhetoric that palestinians being pedalled by right wing republicans. that's next. take a moment to pause and ask, why did you get vaccinated against pneumococcal pneumonia? 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