rise with more than 1400 killed in israel and over 9000 killed in gaza, according to the palestinian health ministry. numbers that nbc has not confirmed independently. but as we cope for -- foreign nationals, including americans who granted access to leave gaza through the rafah crossing. relief met with heart ache us so many had to leave family members behind. ahead, i will speak with one woman who was able to escape gaza days ago. hurt dangerous and very slow journey and the help that she had from her family back here in the united states. plus, a family affair, the eldest trump sons, both appearing in a new york courtroom this week in the fraud trial against the trump organization. eric trump, defiant talking to reporters after his testimony, >> [inaudible] this is a sensationalized -- we've done nothing wrong. we have a better company than they could've ever imagined. this is a big charade, a huge waste of taxpayer money. it is the very reason everybody's moving out of new york state. >> i'm gonna speak to suzanne craig, who was in that courtroom, i will ask her why the judge threatened the former presidents attorneys. and then the new house speaker, why johnson goes for his first bill and it's passed in the house, 14 billion dollar military aid package for israel. it is dead on arrival though when it comes to the senate. we will get the very latest on that. we begin this hour though in the middle east, with the israel-hamas war raging on. >> israel's ground offensive indoors or with new claims of attacks on schools, refugee camps, ambulances as well. while u.s. secretary of state, tony, blinken's meeting with arab foreign ministers in jordan calling for a cease-fire this afternoon. blinken huddled with israeli prime minister, bibi netanyahu, reiterating support for israel. but america's top diplomat is also calling for a humanitarian pause in the fighting to get more aid into gaza. netanyahu rejected any cease-fire talks unless he says we all the hamas held hostages or relief. continuing to bob gaza -- claiming to have killed dozens of terrorists, the idf also released this video showing its tanks firing rounds and soldiers moving through their military operation in gaza. with, that i want to start things off on the ground in israel, joining me first, nbc's jay gray in tel aviv. good to talk to, you. jaylon of activity we overnight to say the least. walk us through it. >> yasmin, no question that the last 24 hours have again been some of the most intense fighting we've seen since this war began. from the air, obviously, with airstrikes continuing, is really navy fighting from off the coastline. it is the footprint on the ground of idf troops that really continues to expand. we're being told by the idf that they have surrounded gaza city with the intent to move in, destroy hamas infrastructure inside gaza city and really they are looking for operational structures, commanding control structures. they say that is an area where they feel like they will find a lot of the command centers for hamas. they've also moved into some of the tunnels, as you talked about, and they are moving through the tunnel system and trying as best they can to establish how they can better get into those areas. it's something that continues to grow daily. over the last 48 hours, it's really been some of the most intense fighting we have seen. we are also told from the idf that they have cleared a route for civilians to move to the south to get to where it will be safer, according to the idf. they have cleared a path today. they've agreed to allow them to make that move over three hours. they say they were ambushed by hamas fighters there and had to close the path down. that is the latest on the ground there in gaza. no question that while the echoes and calls for a cease-fire are growing, the fighting is intensifying. >> thank, you jay. we appreciate it. as i mentioned earlier, at the top of the show, secretary of state, tony, blinken is in the middle east visiting jordan today after wrapping up his third trip to israel in the last four weeks. in tel aviv, he once again reaffirmed u.s. support for israel. he did call for something that is not exactly popular within the israeli government. a pause in the fighting, as they're putting. it's they're not using the word cease-fire. a pause in the fighting to get humanitarian resources to people in gaza. secretary blinken speaking about the need to protect innocent palestinians that have been caught in the crossfire. we >> need to do more to protect palestinians. a billions them -- as israel conducts this campaign to defeat hamas, how it does so matters. it matters because it's the right unlawful thing to do. i've seen images to of palestinian children, young boys and girls, pulled from the wreckage in buildings. when i see that, when i look into their eyes through the tv screen, i see my own children. how can we not? >> having to walk a fine line there in his speech addressing the world from israel yesterday. i want to go to nbc news correspondent, aaron gilchrist, who is traveling with the president and -- erin, thanks for joining us on this. this trip is not over. the secretary of state made a tour of the middle east. i know he is adding a visit to turkey on his schedule. from there he will go to japan, south korea, india as well. from the white house perspective, what are the goals of this trip right now? the messaging? >> secretary blinken laid out those goals pretty clearly today when he spoke after meeting with several of those arab nations you mentioned a few minutes ago. yasmin, the secretary of state, particularly with meeting with egypt in jordan, talking about how to get more aid into gaza to help people there who are suffering. also talking about how to get hostages away from hamas during this conflict that is still going on. and protecting palestinian civilians in the gaza strip as well. there was this point of contention as i watch the news conference today with the leaders from egypt and jordan and obviously secretary blinken. it was around this idea of a cease-fire. egyptian foreign minister saying that he's demanding an unconditional cease-fire in gaza immediately. the jordanian foreign minister seem to agree with that. secretary blinken pushed back on it saying that the u.s. is not calling for a cease-fire, and then he tried to offer an explanation. i want you to hear what he had to say. >> a cease-fire now, it would simply leave hamas in place, unable to regroup and repeat what it did on october 7th. you don't have to take my word for it, just a few days ago a senior hamas official said it was their intent to do october's a seventh again and again and again. no nation, none of us except that. nobody would find that helpful. >> but, again as you, heard the secretary also talked about the suffering that has been seen in gaza that is obvious. and so many people are having been killed there. in his conversations with israel yesterday, the secretary reiterated that he did talk to the israelis about humanitarian pause is, about how to do that, one to do, that where do, that and the best way to execute it so that it's useful to get more aid in and people who were injured out to alleviate the suffering happening in gaza right now. >> we are going to be following this. that is for sure. thank you. coming up in just 60 seconds, folks, the trump's go to court. what we learn from american don jr.'s testimony in their family business's civil fraud trial. what to expect one ivanka and a former president take the stand this coming. week we will be right back. week we will be right back. this is spring semester at fairfield-suisun unified. they switched to google tools for education because there's never been a reported ransomware attack on a chromebook. now they're focused on learning knowing that their data is secure. ( ♪♪ ) right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. welcome back, the former president and his daughter are set to take the stand next week in the new york civil fraud trial. this is coming up to trump sons, don junior, eric as well, who are executive vice presidents of the trump organization both testified this week. well they may have had different demeanor's on the witness stand, eric trump being somewhat combative on the witness stand, both made arguments that were nearly identical. it was the company's accountants who in fact were responsible for issues with financial statements, not them. i want to bring in investigative reporter from the new york times, suzanne craig, who is inside the courtroom all week long. happy to have you, suzanne. i'm sure it is nice to get to respite from the inside of that courtroom over the last week, over the weekend here. we appreciate you spending time with us. i know there was some contentious moments when it came to eric trump's testimony. you said that you did not feel like either of them did quite well. both made somewhat of the same arguments, essentially saying look, this was our accounts of -- we were pouring concrete while they were doing the accounting. we wanted to pass the buck there. talk me through comparing the testimonies of both eric and don jr.. >> sure. not accounted argument just off the top, they are the company, the trump organization, is the one that supplies the information to the accountants. it's interesting that all of these things became very porous. both of them had similar arguments, don jr.'s was just less combative and less detailed. simply because he's not as involved in the company. he had signed documents, there was some email that mentioned him. for the most part he has not been in a presence in the courtroom in terms of interactions other people have had with him. eric has been very much involved in the company. he's essentially been running it since his father entered the white house. what is interesting is he has maintained in this -- with a deposition that he gave in 2020, that he really wasn't involved with. it's a famous comment, i pour concrete, i don't two appraisals. that was played in the courtroom this week. and after it was over, the attorney general just got up and had email after email after email where he was involved in the minutiae, he was involved in appraisals. his defense sort of started out, and i've been building a list because it's an interesting arc, there's a lot, he says first of all i was -- gonna see this on monday, when the former president gets the stand, i was busy doing other things. i don't get involved in the details. i relied on professional advice. but then they also come into say, even with all of, that there's nothing wrong with a financial statements we submitted to banks, not only are the appraisals accurate from their view, but they're actually underestimated. eric trump made a statement saying, you, know their worth even more than we said. so there's just this whole line that they're going through to make their case in a courtroom, which is interesting, most of it has been decided on summary judgment. they're facing a huge fine. >> it's interesting you brought up one of the arguments, essentially saying well look, no damages were done, the banks were paid, no one lost here. you talk about -- and it has not been talked about in the media, the testimony from the banker who kind of came in to talk about and assess the damages that in fact we're done, that nobody essentially was hurt, and the banks were paid. talk us through some of what we heard from him and why this stood out. >> i'm glad you raised that because this is really now a case about what the damages are going to be. and we are going to hear one of the trump's defenses, there is no victims here. all the loans were repaid. what we heard this weekend testimony that was overshadowed, because the trump children, two of them came in to testify this week, was from a banker who was hired by the attorney general who walked the judge through at least on four of the main properties in question in this case and looked at what the damages were by this submission of the false statements to the banks. what he determined was that the trumps had valued things correctly, they would not have gotten this preferential treatment by the banks and they would have paid more money in interest rates. just on four properties, his estimate came to 100 and $62 million. at the end of the day, if all that is going to matter when this is over is what will the trumps have to pay. they already have a receiver over their business, and they are going to have to pay a fine. something will likely have to be sold. the damage is questioned because it's been overshadowed this week. >> i want to touch on this expanded gag order on friday against the court clerk. the gag order now on the former presidents attorneys, the judge essentially saying, quote unquote, they were falsely accusing her of bias against them and improperly influencing the ongoing bench trial. pretty shocking. they're a gag order now on the former presidents attorneys. >> right, donald trump and his attorneys have been butting heads with the judge over the law clerk, almost since the beginning. they've decided to seize on. it i sense it's very political for them and they are probably feeling it plays well with the base. that they have been seizing on everything from criticizing that she has been rolling her eyes during the proceedings, which fair enough if she has, she should not be, but everything from that they found a picture of her with chuck schumer. they posted it saying that chuck schumer's girlfriend was sitting at the bench, essentially. the judges really hot under the color on this issue. has sanctioned them and is now expanding the gag order to include donald trump's attorneys, they can't speak about her in any capacity now. >> sun craig, we will hear from you all next week. that is the former president obviously testifying on monday, his daughter, ivanka, who's not a defendant in this case, however, she's testifying as well if you days later. thank you for now, we will see you in a couple of days. still ahead everybody, is real's military passing the house. does it have a shot in the senate? escaping gaza, i will speak with an american citizen who was able to flee gaza just this week. up next, the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah, in nearby lebanon, gave his first speech on the israel-hamas war. now a warning for americans living in that country from the state department. we will be right back. state department we will be right back. we will be right back. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. 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remain available. israel's military in the hub on -- iran-backed hezbollah exchange fire with israel in the region -- since the war broke, out joining us now from beirut, nbc's matt bradley. last weekend matt, you and i talked about this ominous video that was released with the back of the head of hassan nasrallah, we don't know what it was implying, what was to come. now we, know, obviously with the speech happening just yesterday. the speech for him was somewhat predictable. but also not delivering on what some thought he would deliver on, which is a call to action for hezbollah. he was more tempered. also turning the direction towards the palestinians saying this was saying it was justified for the palestinians for hamas to do what they did. but also saying it was one hunted percent a palestinian planning, and drawing a line between hezbollah and hamas. talk us through more of what we heard from the leader of hezbollah. >> yeah, in many ways,, yasmin we were hearing a lot of the greatest hits from him. this is a man who is typically valuable, he speaks at, length and he spoke for an hour to half. i was not in front of, him this was over video, he does not really appear before his adoring followers, he normally addresses them by video. i was in a huge arena listening amongst thousands of people who were hanging on every word, supporters of hezbollah. he left it open. he were saying a lot of people really wanted to hear him saying he was going to go to war. a lot of people in lebanon were dreading that he was going to announce some kind of invasion of israel or some kind of ramped up attack. but he sort of was throwing red meat to his base as he often does. he left everything kind of open, you know, yasmin, the real question for everybody, there for all of us still now, why did he wait for weeks, nearly four weeks in order to make this speech after the october 7th attack? one of the things he kept hitting on, over and over again, was that people were asking him why hezbollah has not involve themselves in the. war he kept stressing, again, repetitively that hezbollah has been in the war ever since the second day after october 7th, since october 8th. that was the reason for the speech, to honor and federate the more than 50 hezbollah fighters who have been killed in the past four weeks of fighting. he was really kind of laying the groundwork for, what really could still be a massive uptick in fighting. he warned the west, warned the united states, warned israel, he was holding the u.s. and israel in equal contempt for the treatment of the palestinians and hezbollah and what they've been doing throughout the middle east and muslim world. for him, this was really more about the status quo while laying the groundwork for what still could be a regional war. >> yasmin. >> i've been thinking a lot about this time period that it has taken for nassar led to speak out. i wonder if it all has to do with calls from talks with the iranian foreign minister, or from iran. obviously hezbollah is funded by iran. we know around so far has said they don't want to get involved in a wider conflict. they are acting, though, not to say they're not, acting they're acting currently through proxies as we've seen repeatedly over the last couple of weeks. talk me through that, if you, will this call from the state department for u.s. citizens to leave lebanon. we >>, well this is not the first time we've heard the state department call for that. one of the interesting things is there are most flights operating out of roughly career international airport, which is right behind me. but the fact is that the u.s. state department kind of ramped up the language, saying that any military assisted evacuation is rare. that is the thing they're trying to avoid. they don't want to hundred thousand americans throwing up the embassy, demanding help to leave the country when things get really bad. yasmin? >> matt bradley for, us thank, you've met. we appreciate. it 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escape what's happening on the ground in gaza. nbc foreign correspondent, megan fitzgerald, has more from cairo. >> the rafah border crossing open for the fourth day in a row this morning for dual and foreign nationals to pass through. but it suddenly closed at noon, just to open for a couple of hours, according to palestinian border officials, they say they are not opening the rafah border crossing again until injured palestinians are allowed to make their way out. that of course begs the question of why aren't these folks able to leave? these are questions that are still unanswered. they remain unclear at this hour. but we know is according to several u.s. government officials, some 200 american citizens were able to cross through into egypt, down to cairo, then on to their final destination. that is roughly half of the americans that have been able to make it out. we have been speaking with them and they talk about how it is just a grueling process to be able to exit. some say it is upwards of nine, ten, even 12 hours. they go through, they wait for the name to be called, then their passports are being processed. before they are taken to the egyptian side, then again, down to cairo and authored their final destination. look, this is a very difficult decision for people to make. we have been in contact with a man who is an american citizen. he has family in the united states. he refuses to leave gaza because his wife is not on the list. we talked to another family who decided that they would go, but they don't know if they're going to be able to see again their family members they left behind in gaza. it is an excruciating decision for a lot of folks, but we know that this process is still not over just yet. back to you. >> thank you megan fitzgerald for that. among the nearly 80 americans who have already made it, out n.i.l.a. i'll show rafah, a 66-year-old palestinian american woman who arrived in gaza to check on her ailing mother just days before the war broke out, she was finally able toake it acrossegypt on thursday. her son told the guard that he felt betrayed by biden and the state department for what he believed was a lapse in assistance. i want to bring them both in. now a miro sheriff and her son who is here in the united states. and of the two of you have not seen each other yet. not in person. you're seeing each other now here on our program, and you've had an opportunity to speak. since your mom made it out of gaza, how are you doing? >> i'm doing fine now. i'm safe now, but i left behind all my family and gaza. my mother, my five brothers and sisters were there with their kids. i don't know if i can see them again or not. >> what was it like, millet, to leave them behind and to make it to when -- that decision? >> when because i want to go see my family also. i left all my family there. when >> my kids. what were you seeing in gaza when you were there? tell us what you saw. >> bombing all over me was, all over the house in gaza. we all were scared, it was really dangerous for everybody and this was also before we move to what they said was a safe area. it is really like bombing all over, all over gaza. situations were very tough, it's hard for everyone in gaza. not even my family only. the whole kids, all the women, all the family. i worry about my mother because she's an old lady and she is a sick lady also. she needs her medication. i don't know what we're gonna do after a few days, if there is no medication, are we going to find medication? she has high blood pressure. it's tough for me. it's really tough for me. i'm worried about them. i'm really really -- you know, i just don't know. i don't know, i'm shy -- for myself to, eat to take a shower, they don't have water, they don't have food, it's really a tough time. it's a very tough time for everybody over there in gaza. >> what was it like, your mother went there to take care of your grandmother who is still there as your mom just said. and then this war broke out. and now your mom thought she was able to get, out she went to the border early on, that didn't happen. what has it been like for you watching this from home? from afar and feeling somewhat helpless? >> thank you, jasmine, for having us on. it's been a nightmare. first of, all i want to say that i'm relieved that my mother is out. right now it is a bittersweet moment because we leave so much family behind. and what is happening is just a catastrophe there. i just can't believe that our president gave the green light to the israeli military, not just to bomb are u.s. citizens, this is not just a greenlight, we gave military aid, we gave weapons, and you know how ruthless the israeli government and military is. if we go back in time, in 1988, the break the bones campaign. if you protest as a palestinian, your bones were broken, you are disabled. after the horrors of october 7th, we knew there was going to be a disproportionate response. and it is just sad that my mother was ten minutes away from getting out october 10th, and the israeli airstrike bombed, preventing her and hundreds of u.s. citizens and thousands of international citizens from leaving gaza. so it is just -- i just miss our president took a page from george h. w. bush's book in 1990, in the first gulf war, when he took out are u.s. citizens before getting involved in the war. that seemed to be the responsible thing to do rather than give the green light for the israeli military to bomb or u.s. citizens. >> and you are one of the americans, the few americans, nabil, that is suing the state department because of what you see as a lack of response in getting americans to safety, americans like your mother, to safety. and you wrote about it, you talked about the correspondence you have had with the state department saying all vagueness, it's all a cloud, the state department speaks as if it has no leverage. >> exactly. this case right, now i'm not really thinking about the, case but just want to make sure my mom comes home. she needs to be on u.s. soil. however, the bill -- the case is still active, we will be talking to our attorneys about. it this case is all about equal protection. it is a civil rights constitutional rights case. it is about treating the israeli americans like you treat the palestinians -- groups, treating the palestinians like you treat the israeli americans. my mom is not on a cruise ship right now. the israeli americans were treated one way, the palestinian americans another. on october 7th, after that, the u.s. visa requirements were waived for israelis. but now the palestinians, their homes are wiped. 10,000 people are dead. tens of thousands of children, women injured. i mean, how much more is necessary for our government when to say cease-fire? their tongues become twisted when they need to say that term. it is okay to say stop the killing. this is okay to say. it's just a nightmare to see the response from our government and the lack of equal treatment. that is what the case is about. right now i just want to focus on my mother, making sure she comes home to u.s. soil, safely. and also, see what we can do in terms of stopping the killing and this war. >> naela elshorafa, when you got the communiqué that you are able to cross over into egypt, what went through your mind at that point? >> my mind, you know what came to my mind? at that point, i was, like i don't know if i'll see my family again or not. this is the main thing. it is, like you know, everybody over there, it's like 30 people i have for my family. they're under bombing, under a war. we don't know what will happen, we don't know what can happen to them. like, we need a cease-fire. we need peace. we need everything to go back to normal. they are normal people, palestinian people, their normal people like other people, they want to live their lives to. what do you think it is like? i'm eating now, i'm taking a shower, and i don't know what can happen to them after one week or after a few days. and my mother, [crying], least i can get my mom, she is my mother. i love -- i remember in 1990, they took us all out because my son is american. why don't they let me take my mother with me? 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>> that is the big question, one of the reasons why it is getting that kind of reception from democrats, including leader schumer who says he's not able to put that thing on the floor for a vote, it is because of those irs cuts that were attached to it. democrats are calling that a poison pill. i spoke to one of the 12 democrats who actually voted for this bill in the house side, congressman jared moskowitz, he's jewish himself, he really wanted a strong showing of support for aid to israel. he said this could have been the first moment for speaker johnson to get a bipartisan majority on something like this. that did not happen. though now it seems like house democrats are waiting for a product to be sent over by the senate. we'll see what that does to johnson's leverage. here is hakeem jeffries, democratic leader on this yesterday, watch. >> to the extent that there are bipartisan discussions in the senate related to a comprehensive approach to meeting the national security needs of america and our allies throughout the world, in a manner consistent with our values we -- look at any bipartisan product that comes out of the senate in good faith. >> jeffries is talking about a potential bipartisan plan that could come from the senate in the next coming days or weeks, that would be something that would address israel but also have billions in humanitarian assistance for the region, which democrats even some republicans want to see. also it would have aid to ukraine and the border security proposals that republicans and democrats in the upper chamber are working on right now, figuring it out. that's something the house is waiting. on i did speak to house republicans about the israel aid, they say they would have voted for it with or without spending cuts. the cat cyrus, also, yasmin, according to the congressional budget office, don't make any cuts it. all they actually add to the deficit. >> to be talk about tommy tucker ville for a moment. senator tommy tucker. bill he is still holding up these military promotions over aboron policies. dismissed claims this week about military leaders being overworked. he claimed that he had chest as taxing of a job when he was a college football coach. i know though that the senate has found some work-arounds when it comes to these promotions. three of them i believe, they were able to get through this week. how did that work? >> it is the same tactic that we saw in september, when leader schumer brought up three top nominees. in this, case it was to fill all the positions of the joint chief of staff. critically important, especially when you have two wars overseas. he did that because senator tuberville is not letting up on these holds. i have to tell, you yasmin, there was a palpable shift that happened this week in the name, the form of senate republicans, including those who have served in the military. i talked to senator joni ernst, who was so frustrated, i've never seen her quite that angry, that frustrated at this moment. she told me that tuberville's position here, even those 360 some of nominees, those names resulting, up they would not be able to do anything about this abortion policy. instead, she, said this is something that is becoming a national security issue. one that is affecting military families. i'm told we're going to see some movement, maybe some dominoes start to fall in the coming days. >> julie tsirkin for, us thank, you jackie. we appreciate that. let's talk about speaker johnson for a moment. let's talk about his rise to speakership. we're learning more about louisiana representative, johnson -- apiece and vanity fair detailed his concerning background by being virtually unknown before. now he's far from an idle threat. i want to bring in the author and friend of the show, the network and everything else. molly john fast. official correspondent for vanity fair in the host of the fast politics podcast. this was a really good read, molly. as i went through, it there's a lot of -- we did a deep dive into speaker johnson last week and talked about some of the more inflammatory things he said over the past. you had susan cohen saying she is going to google him to find out who he is. he has not even met, as you mentioned in your, pc leader mcconnell. that is astounding. you read in your piece this, a guy who dresses like paul ryan, but acts like sydney powell. we talk me through that. >> well, he rose to fame and got on trump's radar with his work trying to undermine the 2020 election. this amicus brief that went to the courts in texas that was trying to not certify the election. again, he did not agree with the certification. he is very religious, and he has some pretty out their beliefs. we just found out this week after i finish this piece that his wife -- i want to point, out he has this long tale of religious writings and religious -- he has a podcast with a wife. there's hours an hours of -- when >> weight, he said if you want to know about me, read the bible. >> that's his worldview, the bible. but his wife was also involved in these anti-lgbtq deprogramming, therapies, this is really the kind of stuff we don't do in 2023 anymore. >> so his first real piece of legislation, as julie was talking about, was a 14 million dollar aid package for israel. doa when it comes to the senate, the cbo congressional budget office essentially said it will add to the cuts to that the biden administration had put into place when we, it will add 12 billion dollars to the deficit. is this what they get when they put someone in place who literally is someone unknown? but more than that, has really no experience in shaking hands and making deals. finding we pay force -- >> and whipping votes. i thought it was an interesting move. here is this foreign aid, it is wildly bipartisan the popular. and mitch mcconnell is for it. -- >> it's an easy. when >> right, and easy, when you pass, this he's got goodwill right now, this is the moment you put that together, you just put the eight together, by the, way there is no historical precedent for offsets. this was not actually offset, he said it was an offset, of emergency aid. so he's doing something that is totally new. it ultimately is interesting, he is just trying to do a messaging bill, maybe he knows this but it seems like there is no world in which this whatever going to pass. mcconnell does not even want to. it >> would you want to be successful out of the gate? it's your first time. and people think you are likely unqualified for the, job you're very unknown, try to be successful out of the gate when you talk on ukraine, knowing the house freedom caucus, the right-wing republican party, are not for, it but you know that there for the israel aid. >> i, mean look, this is the burn it all down caucus. this is the part of the government that is wanting to drown the federal government in the bathtub. i think that part of this is obstructionism. part of this could be messaging, he wants to show that they are going to try and take apart the inflation reduction, bill which has always been a big republican wish. but yeah, i think that is strange. and remember, he still has a one person motion to vacate. >> i was just going to say. that that is unbelievable that it didn't change. by the, way it's november 4th, 13 days away from november 17th deadline of him having to get him -- he has not called this emergency aid passed and he will have to get a budget passed. i know he's for the stopgap until january 5th i believe. >> he also had this idea of cascading budgets. i mean, he's come up with all these things that we have not ever seen. if i was a person who did not know how to win votes, who needed to win get millions of dollars to try to keep the house, which has a four republican vote majority, including george santos, i would not be trying to -- >> buy the, way the seat was won by biden. >> i would not try to reinvent the wheel here. >> molly, it's a, pleasure good to see. you >> more coming up folks, you're watching msnbc, our second hour starts right after this. our starts right after this this pneumococcal pneumonia? 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