tonight's last word. 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. starts now >> tonight, the deadly strike at a refugee camp in gaza, amid an increased offensive by israeli forces, and the new warning from the fbi about threats here in the united states. then, the stunning prediction from a former white house lawyer as the former president continues to lash out online. and the house speaker, mike johnson, setting the stage for a showdown. his first major move since winning the gavel, as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. new greetings. i am symone sanders-townsend in for stephanie ruhle. tonight israel's war with hamas moves closer to some of gaza's most crowded areas. israeli militaries why ground operations are underway along with continuing airstrikes. today they knew claim that one of those strikes had refugee camp in gaza. israel says the target was a key hamas lead over the attack also reportedly under deadly impact on civilians in the area area. nbc's richard engel has the story. >> israel devastated part of a refugee camp on the edge of gaza city, carrying out what it called a large the scale striking one of the most densely populated areas in the world. . nearby hospital says dozens were killed and hundreds injured. we can't confirm those figures, the camp is full of apartment buildings and people can be seen carried away wounded and dead and digging through rubble. israel said it was targeting one of the leaders of hamas's october 7th massacre of 400 israelis 1400 israelis and it collapsed a subterranean structure. israel blamed hamas for the civilian deaths, saying hamas used civilians as human shields. perhaps the only thing not in dispute in this war is that civilians in gaza are suffering and that the hospitals needed to care for the growing number of injured are barely functioning. >> this has been a massacre that has been unfolding, but now we are getting to the final chapter of this massacre, where even the wounded won't be spared. the world needs to intervene. now >> unicef today calling gaza a graveyard for thousands of children. israel has rejected a cease fire, saying it would be a surrender to hamas. everything we are seeing here in southern israel indicates that this ground offensive is still ramping up, with more and more troops heading into gaza. israel says it struck 300 hamas targets today, and that it is hunting hamas commanders. it claims the strike killed an architect of the mass murder of his release into kibbutzes near gaza. >> this is a critical time for the u.s. israel alliance. not in a largely party line vote the senate confirmed jack lieu's ambassador to israel. by nominated him back in september. israel hamas war has ignited anger in hell hatred across the middle east and across the region. fbi director is now warning that the conflict could inspire terror attacks against americans. nbc's garrett hague has more. now >> on capitol hill tonight a stark warning about going threaded home from the devastating war abroad. the >> ongoing war >> in the middle east has raised the threat of an attack against americans in the united states to hold another level. >> fbi director chris wray signaled the u.s. was in a dangerous period. >> we assisted the actions of hamas and its allies will serve as an inspiration the likes of which we haven't seen since i.s.i.s.. >> as you wish coach dunes are facing threats on u.s. campuses, cornell university officials today confirming the rest of a suspect in connection with online threats of a mass shooting and other violence there. >> to see my own campus targeting specifically the building that i live in, sleep in, was just unbelievable. >> a las vegas man also charged with threatening to kill nevada senator jackie rosen, who is jewish, after leaving a series of antisemitic profanity laced voicemails. >> fbi director wray also warned of the alarming rise in antisemitism, saying it had reached, quote, historic levels. today nevada senator jackie rosen, who was the target of antisemitic threats, spoke out against her own concerns. now >> i'm feeling the same as jews are feeling all around the world, under attack in a threat. i have full confidence in our department of justice and law enforcement to work on this case. but frankly, students across the country, k through 12, college campuses, look at the protests around the world. jews are feeling under attack. >> with that, let's bring in our lead off panel, houma aberdeen, top aide and longtime adviser for former secretary of state hillary clinton. frank figliuzzi, assistant director for counter intelligence for the fbi, and ravi agarwal, editor in chief of foreign policy and has of f p live. i'm gonna start with you. tonight we are learning the secretary of state anthony blinken is actually heading back to israel later this week. i believe it's on friday. the new york times reports that this about the president, while he continues to declare unambiguous support for israel, mr. biden and his top military and diplomatic officials have become more critical of israel's response to the terrorist attacks, and the unfolding humanitarian crisis. that's from the new york times. so how will secretary blue lincoln's trip this time be different than when he went immediately after the october 7th attack? >> i think after the first trip it was a response to the shock of the attack by hamas, going in and expressing solidarity. with the israeli government and people obviously the victims of the hostages and cinched since then in the three weeks since his last visit, we had the visit by president biden, and as you might remember, that trip had to be caught short by the explosion at the hospital in gaza. and so i think now things have shifted. the world has been watching for the last few weeks as the israeli incursion and this humanitarian crisis, you've got u.n. agencies on a regular basis calling for more aid, urgent urgent aid getting to palestinian people. and i think today, in particular, i think one of the reasons they probably announced this trip today, is seeing the images from the jab aaliyah explosion, to say they were targeting a particular hamas leader and say that they had a successful hit, if you will. but at the same time seeing images of palestinians pulling new wreckage from the rubble. that is something that i think they have to talk to the israeli government. about what is the plan for the attack? because increasingly we've already heard the last couple of hours, the saudi government has criticize that particular operation today. the reform minister is saying this, it undermined their mediation efforts. they've been helping to negotiate some of the hostage release. so it's a tricky balance. and frankly not he hasn't announced other countries he's gonna go to, but i'm sure biden will want to visit other leaders in the region because the support, the anger on the arab streets, as we all know, is only going to increase with these images. >> you know, ravi, this underscores how difficult this conflict could become for the biden white house, does it not? the israeli government is saying this will be a long war. we are heading into an election year. talk to me a little bit about the tightrope. because oftentimes what happens in foreign policy does not necessarily affect domestic affairs when it comes to elections. but this is an issue that is absolutely broken through. >> yeah, exactly right. as houma was saying, the biden administration stands has changed. it was a very clear sign of, we stand with israel, come what may. 9/11 has been invoked again and again, and that invocate invocation has been more poignant because as much as this was, israel's worst attack in its history, i think american officials are increasingly trying to point out israel that, don't make the same mistakes american made after 9/11. america essentially embarked on a war on terror, not towards on two countries, and it lost its standing, internationally, which had an immense degradation for american soft power. and i think america wants to tell israel to not repeat those same mistakes. in recent days, it has become clear that israel's appetite for what it is willing to do, because of the horrific attacks of october seven, it is willing to lose a fair bit of soft power. that has ramifications for israel. and as you were saying, it has ramifications for the united states as well. if it is seen to support israel, and if that support is blind, van in the rest of the world america also tends to lose some support among its allies in the muslim world, and then, finally, you have how that plays out in domestic american politics, in terms of muslim americans. we've talked about antisemitism. there's also islamophobia to worry about american campuses across this country. people are riled up. these are tense times. it's really important, in this visit, for secretary of state blinken to try and calm tensions down, to try and, somehow, let the israelis know that there are ramifications to overstepping in the next few days. >> so, frank, secretary blinken is going to israel, but here at home as ravi just alluded to there, have been truly unsettling things happening all over this country, particularly on campuses, when it comes to the cornell case, when it comes to antisemitic threats, the suspect in that case is now in custody. he's facing federal charges, he is a 21-year-old junior at the school. how do you see this war fueling future threats, and just what should people be looking out for. what else should institutions be doing >> yeah, it was helpful that this young man confessed to the most bile and graphically detailed threats that were made to cornell's jewish community students and faculty. i won't repeat all of them, but suffice to say that it will put him in prison. it is that level of detail, plus his confession. the message here is, the fbi will come down on you. you will get put in handcuffs for these kind of hate filled threats. we have to listen to the fbi director today. i am telling you simone, i am fluent in fbi speak, and what we heard today was the strongest language used yet by an fbi director since the beginning of the war in israel with hamas. when you hear an fbi director use references like historic levels of threat, when he reminds us that both al-qaeda and i.s.i.s. have now called for a tax against the u.s. and the west, when he says this is a time for concern and that multiple terror groups are now threatening americans, it is time for us to be incredibly vigilant. he also was not lost -- it was not lost on him that on top of all of that, if not alarming enough, domestic violent extremists are seeking to exploit this time filled with hate and their antisemitism. he told us the startling fact that jewish americans compose about 2.4% of our population, yet they are targeted in 60% of religious hate crimes, here. so, the actions by israel today are likely to, not to get into the military strategy, i am not a military strategist, but rather i am a national security contributor. so i, kentucky we should expect an even greater increased threat in the days ahead. college campuses are hotbed, right now, we have to protect the soulful liberties, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, let people express themselves, but we also have to condemn hate and condemn terror, and the fbi, more than ever before and the hsr, working with campus law enforcement, state and local police, to really make sure that they have covered this like a blanket. it is a time of great challenge for long forsman. long for smith must get it right every single time. threat actors only need to get it right once, so we are constantly playing catch-up. >> frank, my one follow-up for you here is, how prepared is the fbi when it comes to tracking some of these outside groups like hamas, right? and what they might try to do here in the united states. because in the past few years, especially since january 6th, not none during the trump administration, the fbi focused on more homegrown terror, white supremacists, some of the most terrible things that we have seen over the past couple of months. this is now a different kind of threat. >> yes, importantly, they can't take their eyes off the ball and focus overly on white supremacist threats. but here is the important emphasis today that the director made. this is about inspiring terror here, so, not that hamas possesses any capability of any significance here at home, they never have, to hurt us here, what he is concerned about is that all of the scripts together calling for action will inspire violent individuals or small groups, he said, here. and that is incredibly hard, harder than monitoring the actual organizations themselves abroad, because you know how to get intel, there. but the lone actor here is what concerns want enforcement, the inspired actor, the lone wolf, so to speak. that is very challenging to get ahead of. >> as we have this conversation, i am thinking about how this conflict is going and oh my, i am wondering about the hostages. do you see negotiations to release the people still being held by hamas and gaza more difficult, now? >> simone, i just wanted to pick up very quickly on something from just said, because one of the things -- the statistic about jewish americans is stunning for all of us. but i think just adding to that, we know that hate crimes against muslims spiked in 2001 post 9/11, and then again in 2015 and 2016, and a very significant thing has changed and has added the burden on our law enforcement, making it much more significant, as we did not have social media. we did not have a lot of these videos, a lot of this proliferation of this hate speech, certainly not in 2001, and the trauma people had to go through, and the acceleration in 2015, 2016, when obviously that kind of violent speech was being monitored on social media. i remember very specifically as somebody who was on that basis target list in the mid 2000s, to exactly frank's point, it was one thing to be on i.s.i.s.'s list, not what enforcement saying we don't know their capabilities to do anything at this country, it was actually inspiring bad intentions by, frankly, in my case, someone in new jersey. so, these are every single thing to frank's point, they can't get it wrong one time. so, incredible to see the what they are doing. in terms of the hostage negotiations, i think that is one of the reasons stopping qatar in continuing to engage with the qataris who have the relationships with hamas, and to keep them at the table. it will be, to robbie's point earlier, incumbent upon secretary blinken, really, to take the tension down in a situation where it seems almost impossible to do it, but that is frankly the job with our secretary of state, is to push the diplomacy. one of the things i am certain people bring up with the israelis -- i have not caught this until a few hours ago, but, the israeli finance minister not transferring the tax revenues over to the palestinian authority. anyone who is talking about a final two state solution, which i know for many people seems like a pipe dream in this moment, has to be, for those of us who are optimists in the possibility of democracy and people having their own state and living in peace, both israelis and palestinians, the palestinian authority is that alternative. and so, you have to think about all of these conversations. >> you are absolutely right, but i think that for so many people, it is just a weight of what is happening, and these images coming out of gaza, the attack of october 7th, it is a two state solution for some folks being far away. but we will continue to discuss it. huma abedin, frank floozy, and probably agarwal, thank you very much. coming up, folks, we will talk to a spokesperson for the israel defense forces as they push deeper into gaza. and later, white one former white house 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>> yes, simone, we have heard the constant sound of artillery, rockets strikes inside of northern gaza. you may hear a little bit right now. military helicopters overhead, we are on the israel gaza border, that is the north. we are just directly north of gaza, so that back there past the treeline is gaza. israel has repeatedly said they have three primary goals in this war. the main one being to make sure hamas can no longer operate, govern, or operate in any sort of military capabilities. so, they don't have the capability of carrying out an attack like the one israel saw on october 7th. they also say one of their goals is to try and secure the border, and they also say one of their goals is to rescue the more than 200 israelis being held hostage inside of gaza. you can hear that heavy caliber artillery, that sound has been constant for the last couple of hours. the sun is just starting to break through. it will be up in about an hour, but the military activity in this section of the border has been constant throughout the night. israel has said they will focus and are focusing their military efforts on northern gaza and gaza city in particular, because they say that this is where amos militants primarily operate out of. one of the things we have been watching and reporting on for over three weeks now, is the rafah border crossing and whether or not foreign nationals will be allowed to leave gaza. remember, the state department has said they believe between five and 600 people with american citizenships are still stuck inside of gaza. there is a new report, i want to tell you a little bit about it from a newspaper inside of gaza called l hadas newspaper, and this is from one of their correspondents. they are saying that, according to a conversation they had with the spokesman for the crossings and, porter a authority, that's today, wednesday, holders of foreign passports will be allowed to travel, according to a published statement based on agreements with the egyptian side. they are saying that a list, which has been published, and we have a copy of that list here, with a number of different people holding dual citizenships or just passports from other countries, that they will be allowed to travel through the crossing starting at 7 am local time. that is two hours from now. this is in addition to reporting we had earlier in the night where an nbc news producer was told by a spokesperson with the rafah crossing into deals with media conversations that they were planning to elect gazans who have been injured to leave the rafah crossing sometime on wednesday to be treated inside of egyptian hospitals. that new update possibly, maybe some sort of breakthrough to allow foreign nationals out, but i will remind you that there have been a couple of different times where foreign nationals were told to head towards the rafah border because they might have been able to leave, but tonight there is new reporting that possibly in two hours, based on reports from inside of gaza that crossing might actually be open to foreign nationals, as well as people who have been injured inside of gaza. simone? >> nbc's ellison barber, thank you so much. great reporting. i now want to bring and lieutenant colonel jonathan conricus, a spokesperson for the israel defense forces. colonel conricus, good to see you again. i want to start with where my colleague alison barber left off. she is reporting that foreign passport holders will be allowed to travel through the rafah border crossing into egypt and just about two hours from now, 7 am local time. how will that affect the operations that the idf has been carrying out? are there plans to ensure safety in that area near the crossing? >> yes, hi, thank you for having me. late hours, early morning here. we have tried this twice in the past. the first days of the war and then another attempt to safely allow dual nationalities or foreigners out of gaza. amos thwarted it is the first two times. we work for it and we wanted it to happen and we approved of the whole idea and supported it. i hope it will happen this time, we definitely understand that many countries are concerned about their nationals that are stuck in gaza. and up until now, what i understand is that hamas has been keeping these dual nationals inside gaza as a ways of maintaining leverage and pressure. in a similar fashion, that they are keeping 240 israelis hostage underground and not allowing internationals to go out. let's see what the day brings. hopefully, this will happen. if it has been agreed upon by israel, then it will be honored by us. but really, what matters on the ground is whether or not hamas will open the gate. >> i want to ask you about and idf authorization earlier today. the idf said that sits killed a senior hamas commander in a strike on the jabalia refugee camp. nbc news has not independently been able to verify that this senior hamas leader has died. have you've been able to confirm that he was indeed killed? >> yes, the hamas commander that we are speaking about,'s first name was ibrahim. he was indeed killed. we confirmed that. i have that based on intelligence sources in jabalia in his underground compound, to gather with a number, maybe a few dozens, of hamas combatants. they were conducting fighting from that location underneath the civilians. he was also one of the masterminds behind the october 7th attack against israel. the atrocities that they conducted, he was basically in charge of the northeastern sector, and was one of the guiding forces that sent out many of those palestinian death squads into israel. and he is a terrorist who has approximately 20 years of israeli blood on his hands, his first biggest attack was in -- colonel, i am sorry to interrupt you, colonel. i -- thank you for confirming that information. i want to ask, though, about the strike. it was carried out in a refugee camp. you just noted that you had intel, the idf had intel, that underscored that your target was indeed in a refugee camp. who is it that makes the decision, that the idf receives intel that their target isn't a refugee camp, for example, when this refugee camp was the largest one in cost, who is it that makes the decision to strike? that those lies are worth risking for the target? >> let's clarify that status of rafah refugee camp, that i have been speaking about. you won't see tents and people that have been displaced from anywhere. it is called day refugee camp because it is managed by unwra, the u.n., but they are not refugees. they are palestinians that live there under palestinian rule. there are people that got there either from 1948 or 1967. so, i understand why you call it a refugee camp because the u.n. does, but when people hear refugee camp, you think something totally different. these aren't refugees, this is their permanent -- >> well, general, i would argue that a number of the people who were in this area, if you will, this refugee camp, as i will call it, were displaced from their homes because they had to leave. so my question is, who is it. no, lieutenant colonel. who is it that makes the decision on this? i do think that the international community has seen the images today and there are a lot of questions about the decision to strike this refugee camp. >> indeed, indeed. so, regarding leaving, and i will answer the question, the people who are there have been requested by israel to leave for at least two weeks. we have issued clear requests for them to leave that specific area, not other areas. this is northern gaza, jabalia, just north of gaza city. this is the area where we have been warning civilians to leave for about two weeks, and we have told them that this is the unsafe area to beat. there will be major operations here, and if you want to be safe, go south towards southern gaza. now, you ask about decision-making in or. this is similar to any other military in war, u.s. military included. there is always a balance that you try to achieve between the military objective and what we call in military speak, collateral damage or non-combatants. there is always a balance here. and this specific case, the importance of that hamas militant commander and the amount of militants that were with him, they outweighed what we anticipated to be the so-called collateral damage. i want to say one more thing. when you take numbers from the gaza strip reported by the hospital or the so-called cause the health ministry which, is a -- lieutenant >> lieutenant, i take your point about the numbers. i notably did not use the numbers, here. we are out of town. to your point, as someone who used to work for the united states government, at a level of operation like this, this is something that the president of the united states would know about. so, i don't know if you are suggesting that prime minister netanyahu himself gave the order, but unless you are, we will have to leave it there. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. coming up, donald trump is now under two gag orders. why one of his former white house lawyers say it is only a matter of time before he is jailed for violating it, when the 11th hour continues. the first time you connected your godaddy website and your store was also the first time you realized... well, we can do anything. cheesecake cookies? 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this week it's -- >> look, at the bottom line is it's not a serious proposal. >> newly minted house speaker mike johnson is facing backlash after proposing a bill to send more than 14 billion dollars in aid to israel while slashing e same amount to the irs from the presidents signature inflation reduction act. for more i want to bring in basil shermichael, democratic strategist, and former democratic director of the former new york democratic party, and former congressman carlos karbala. carlos, this is speaker johnson's first test to navigate the demands of the caucus. he's got hard-line republicans, many are still not one over. who exactly was this proposal for? >> this is the easy part. the house is majority, and house is very good at announcing its opening position. republicans speakers and leaders have gotten in trouble when they actually have to negotiate, when they have to take into account the congress cannot act unless both chambers pass a bill, and that bill does not become law unless the president signs it, so this is the easy part for speaker johnson, putting out something that all republicans can support, and when it comes down to negotiate and explain to some of his republican colleagues that they can't have everything they want and ignore the other side of the capital and the executive branch, that's when he is going to have a problem, and that's where he has to avoid getting stuck the way kevin mccarthy and other republicans because of gotten stuck in the past, because some of their members will make unreasonable demands, and mike johnson, like kevin mccarthy, does not have many votes to spare. >> basil, he doesn't have many votes to spare, yet out of the gate he has put forward a bill that senator schuman has said it is not serious, essentially. it's not gonna pass. so what is your reaction to this? and the fact that biden had border security dollars in his proposal, in addition to aid for ukraine in taiwan. none of that is in speaker johnson's bill. >> right. into the earlier, point this really will give us a window into his negotiating skills. i don't have a lot of faith in that, but we will see it on display to an extent. i like what the democrats have done, which is pushed back very quickly and very strong on this and it is interesting because you can point out the republican hypocrisy. for a party that once prided itself on fiscal responsibility, you're gonna take all that out of the agency in charge of collecting. revenue it's money that's meant to go after a lot of the very wealthy who have found ways to hide their money, it really does show you what the republicans are about right now. yes, it might be an opening bargaining position, but even mitch mcconnell has said that he stands with ukraine. he said that standing with ukrainian ambassador. so the fact is, it's been on arrival. we will see they are negotiating skills, if there are any. and maybe he falls into the same trap as mccarthy. maybe not. but it is good to see that the democrats have pushed back as strongly as they have. >> carlos, do you expect this proposal to even make it passed the house? i think a lot about the 18 republicans that represent districts that joe biden won in 2020. i don't know if those folks will want to adopt in nebraska wants to vote for this proposal. >> i think it will, simone. all republicans are already on the record repealing the iranian its entirety, so it's not new territory for them. where the they wl pushback is if speaker johnson tries to delay this process, if he refuses to refuse with n just chuck schumer but also mitch mcconnell, lindsey graham. we saw john sun and others standing behind mitch mcconnell there. so it's not just the house versus the democratic leadership in the senate versus the white house. it's pretty much the house against everyone else. that's where some of the centrist republicans in the house will start losing patience. that's why a lot of them extracted a commitment from speaker johnson that there would be no shut down on november 17th because they know what this movie looks like. >> basil, do you think we're going to see an oval office meeting with mike johnson, president biden, mcconnell, and schumer? >> i don't know that you'll see that full robust meeting take place. but to the earlier point, it's an important question you ask about things like mike lawler in the biden republicans in the biden districts in new york. in some ways they are betting that concerns around israel are deeper than the foreign policy question around ukraine. that's a really, that's a really risky bet. but what's even riskier is taking the time to give the american voter an opportunity to watch you negotiate this and eggleston public. i don't know that that's a winning strategy for republicans, because voters and democrats will vary squarely blame republicans for dragging this out and creating this precedent for american safety and security and foreign policy. it just doesn't match what we've done done in the past. >> we'll just have to see. we'll keep. us watching basil smikle, carlos curbelo, thank you very much. coming, up are gonna see what stephanie's up to on this halloween night. you don't want to miss it. and her message, when the 11th hour continues. ur continues rsv is in for a surprise. meet arexvy. 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