Israelhamas war. The deadly blast and a hospital in gaza Killing Hundreds of people. Then, that race for the gavel now entering its third week as jim jordan fails to win the speaker on the first ballot. And the rampant spread of misinformation online about the israelhamas war. We are going to separate fact from fiction with two experts as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. Good evening, once again, im stephanie ruhle, live from msnbc corridors and new york city. President biden is on his with israel as we speak as the crisis and that middle aged appears to reach a Tipping Point. Bidens mission, to show support for israel and its war with hamas and price for eight with gaza. Now in the midst of a humanitarian crisis. Just hours ahead, of bidens live in d. C. , a powerful explosion rocked a hospital and gaza, Killing Hundreds of people. Officials in gaza and in israel have blamed one another for the blast. That has inflamed already high tensions across the region. Nbcs Richard Engel has more. Palestinians called at a massacre and say and israeli air strike exploded at the Al Ahli Hospital and gaza city, where people were gaza health ministry, which is run by hamas, says hundreds are dead. Bodies seen lying in the ground, that wounded or rushed to another hospital and gaza city. Young children are among that missiles. The whole ceiling fell on top of. Us there are lots of children, very young children, whose bodies were laying on the floor. This could be a Tipping Point triggering rage across the arab world, just as the region is on the brink of a wider war. It is really quickly denied responsibility ends of the explosion was cold by Palestinian Rocket that was launched not by hamas but another Palestinian Militant Group in gaza. Many palestinians dont believe that. Protests in the west bank, jordans king calling it a heinous for crime and President Bidens impending visit is now in jeopardy. That letter of the Palestinian Authority, mahmoud abbas, moderate, left jordan, refusing to join President Biden for a peace summit in ahmaud with other arab leaders. At now that summit has been canceled. Inside gaza, hamas is under pressure. On monday, the top spokesman for the groups Military Wing claimed the group is willing to release an unspecified number of foreigners they took hostage during their attack in southern israel. Today, a senior hamas official told me that offer has expanded. We are ready to release all the civilians, including the foreigners. All of the civilians including the israeli civilians . Including the israelis. Im sorry, could i just clarify this. You set your willing to release all the civilians, including the israeli nationals, if there is including the israeli civilians and all the foreigners. And what are you asking for in order to do that . Do you want the asterisks to stop . Is that the condition . Stop the aggression. How can we, technically, logistically, it is impossible to do it. So our viewers might hear that and say this offer doesnt mean anything. That if you are not willing to carry it out, it doesnt mean anything. How . Well, if you stop the aggression, it can plea implemented in the next hour. Lets get right to my colleague, Alison Barber whos at the israel gaza border. It is just after a six a. M. Allison, thanks so much for being here. Talk to us about what youve seen overnight and the situation inside gaza right now. Stephanie, you might be able to hear a little bit of what sounds like a drone circling overhead. Throughout the night, with terrifically heard the sound of military aircrafts, Military Helicopters and drones circling over this area. When we look back to the area behind me, which is part of gaza, you can see sometimes when something comes off inside of gaza, the glow of all range from where we are standing. We have not heard any overnight hours any sort of Artillery Bombardment from the israeli side into gaza. We havent heard anything, rockets wise, come in from this section of the border out of gaza into israel. Last night, in the overnight hours, we heard quite a bit of Artillery Bumper meant coming from the israeli side into gaza. That hasnt been the case. Tonight most of the discussions, that talks from Israeli Military to all of the different parties inside of gaza has been focused on what happened at that hospital in gaza city. There is a lot of finger pointing going on right now, and nbc news has not been able to independently verify who is responsible for the explosion at the hospital. But we do know hundreds of civilians have been killed. We have seen videos that have been given to our teams from people inside of gaza. Weve heard from people, but we witnessed it. And it is an absolutely horrific situation. One of the doctors who is working at another hospital and does that city, where they are treating a lot of the patients who have been sent over from the new Al Ahli Hospital where that explosion took place, they have described to us help that were already at the brink. They were already passed their capabilities. They dont have enough Breeze Orphans there. They say its already overcrowded, full of patients, and now they are treated so many people who are injured and is bombing. There are so many bodies, they say, they cannot keep up with the situation that has happened. Fear and what all the doctors working at that hospital told us, they feel, right, now like nowhere in gaza is safe. No hospital is safe because of what has happened tonight. There was a Press Conference earlier this morning, earlier tonight your time, a spokesperson for Israels Defense Forces said they are planning to brief President Biden on the evidence they say they have in terms of who carried out the attack on this hospital. Again, they are claiming it wasnt him. They are saying it was Islamic Jihad. Theyre saying they have Video Footage they plan to show the president , as well as audio recordings, they say, intelligence operations have collected that they claim show, and you can hear and, them Islamic Jihad saying something that indicates that were behind this or had something to do with this. As rosa clement put a rocket, or rockets, headed towards israel miss fareed and struck this hospital. Hamas, gazas military of health, Islamic Jihad pushing back on this. Saying, look at the video. This explosion, that way the bump felt, this had to be an aerial bombardment like the attacks weve seen is doing, saying we dont have the weapons or capability, it wasnt us, we do not know. Nbc news does not know who is responsible for this. But we know a lot of civilians lives have been lost and we know the idf plans to brief President Biden on this when he gets to israel. Stephanie . Maybe the most important point. We might not know who caused it, alison, but we certainly know who is suffering. Alison, thank you so much for being here tonight. Please stay safe where you are. I want to bring in our panel tonight. But and an msnbc contributor, ben rhodes is here. Former National Deputy security adviser for president about ten. And amna, i want to turn to you. First President Biden put out a statement saying he is saddened by the hospital explosion. Hes planning this trip, we knew about it yesterday before this horrific explosion. The trip was already high stick, stephanie. One of the president s men cold and making this trip was not only to show of the already, as he has continuously done over the past ten days with israel to say thes race u. S. Will stand by them in his were against hamas. But also to try to contain this conflict from expanding beyond the borders as already in. More broadly into the region. That was the reason for this jordan summit. Mason with that later off the Palestinian Authority and the king of egypt. That summit is now canceled. Those conversations will not happen. On this trip. Another part of this meeting is also to try to leverage some of that open, candid relationship of heard what has Officials Say that President Biden has with Prime Minister netanyahu. To say a lot more humanitarian aid in. People of gaza, the innocent civilians who are caught in this cross fire need food. They need water. They need access to electricity. They need access to humanitarian corridors, to actually evacuate some of the areas being hardest hit. Everyone we talked to inside gaza says there is nowhere that is safe right now. And also to try to press the israelis to do more to minimize civilian casualties. We know in that private conversation President Biden had with mr. Netanyahu last week, that was part of that message thats been delivered. And since, then thousands of palestinians have been killed including hundreds and hundreds of children. And so even in this fog of war, as we are trying, responsibly as journalists, to figure out what we can effectually say about who is behind this latest atrocious attack on this hospital, in many ways, im set to say this, we may not know and it may not matter. Because people who express propel us than in sentiment whove been watching, from largely across gaza whove seen innocent civilians already killed, likely wont believe any evidence that comes from israeli officials or from the u. S. , or from journalists right now. Because theyve already seen so many people killed. Because authorities in Hospital Facilities and ambulances and you and run shelters and schools that have been hit. So it is our job, i will say, to get to the bottom of. This to report what we know based on the facts. But in terms of the impact on the ground, this might be a Tipping Point. Ben, when President Biden announced his trip to israel, Antony Blinken had been to several countries in the region. He had just finished a seven hour session with netanyahu. This time last night, it felt like that was some progress. Because the hospital explosion, has a changed all that . I think what its done is its made and already risky trip that much riskier. Look, i think if you listen to tony blinken yesterday, he was clear that he had just been in these arab countries. And it was clear he was trying to message several things. One, getting humanitarian access and humanitarian supplies into the people of gaza. At the other, i think, was pretty clearly messages from arab leaders that they were concerned about what Public Opinion was doing in their countries. That there is a risk of an explosion, not just with hezbollah to the north or on the west bank from palestinians there whove been back and forth violence with the israeli settlers, but also in arab capitals and also risks potentially to u. S. Embassies. And i think that was a bit of the backdrop for the messaging from the white house so to emphasize. A big part of this trip is trying to secure that humanitarian access. I think this horrific event at the hospital, which i want to echo, we dont know what happened, but we do not want the reaction is going to be across the arab world. And Around The World. Further horror added and up more dire humanitarian circumstance. I think that makes it that much more tricky for the white house, i think it makes that much more important that theyre able to leave that meeting showing something really tangible and substantial on the humanitarian front. Not something symbolic but something that can significantly alleviate some of the suffering were seeing, whether its credible safe zones, whether its robust commitment to get humanitarian supplies in through the southern border. And frankly, honestly, i think what youre hearing there are going to have some hard questions about this great invasion. And just, how thats going to how it can to look. Like how expensive its going to. Be this is what does it looks like, now imagine what it could like in, if 100,000 israelis will just go in there. This is a really high stakes meeting. Its almost hard to think of a similar meeting the president of the u. S. Has had in such a huge situation and what is really an active war zone. Jeremy, how do you think this explosion changes things . First, i give President Biden tremendous credit for boldly killing anthony by an ally. Obviously tended after the worst atrocity against the jewish people since the holocaust. Hes been so resolute, some morally clear, for him to go to tel aviv, voter jerusalem, go meet with our war cabinet, set down, and Show Similarity is an important message. To bens point, the reaction on the arab straits as a critical factor at this hour. But why was there this arab reaction . For some reason, the news media ran out there and took the word, lock stock and barrel, of a Hamas Military Spokesperson before that was any evidence. At this hour, we dont know, the idf has put out a radar truck showing the missile flew right over the hospital. They also say there is a second in the set of Islamic Jihad fighters, talking about firing this rocket. So we dont have the evidence, at the point earlier, when i never know. But the feckless reported breathlessly, hamas no credibility they tortured angela hostages, that there was no airstrike. Your reporter gave a piece or she said there have been asked right for three hours . So were of the hostages . Nowhere to be found. I dont think you can christmas. This as a doctor situation. I credit the president were going, and hopefully there will be calm, humanitarian relief in south southern part of the council strip and the u. S. Will transmit a message of strength and privilege of israel. Lets stay on the Hostage Crisis, to jeremys point, hamas is not being truthful about the conditions in which they will release hostages, but one other president s Main Missions he is hoping to make some headway on this issue, what is he up against . Well look, hes up against, i dont even know the hamas official, i think its important to hear what they are saying. I dont know if that guy knows where the hostages are. Bear in mind, this is a chaotic situation in which there is a different command and control inside hamas. Hostages could be scattered across gaza, some in tunnels, some in places with civilians but i think what is clear is was in qatar, where there is hamas representation, a hamas office, one of the destinations for negotiating things like releases, same thing in egypt, another venue for those types of discussions. Look, i think unless there is a comprehensive ceasefire in some negotiation, the kind of full scale release of hostages i cannot foresee. But i think the u. S. May be pressing hard for limited releases, women, children, hamas, you obviously want to see hamas released some of the americans, for instance. I think trying to get anybody out that you can is really important. Further to the point at the bombardment and ground invasion, it gets harder the more their military operations in gaza to negotiate hostage releases, if they are intermingled with that sweep to sweep urban warfare fighting. I think the administration wants to get whoever they can out diplomatically, before an official grand a vision. Earlier today, my colleague lester holt spoke to the father of a 23yearold american man, who is currently being held hostage. I want to share a bit. How do you think he is doing . The question is not the strongest guy physically, but he has a very tough resilient, mental makeup, and i do pull strength from that. I keep saying to myself throughout the day, dont give up. I am so amazed by how strong his Family Members are. Amna nawaz, you are just in israel. What did people say about how the government is handing the Hostage Crisis . Its so interesting to hear that father speak there because i heard this message over and over again from folks on the ground, including the number of families whose loved ones have been taken hostage, one in particular, i will never forget, whose father was taken from the kibbutz. He was 81 years old, dependent on medication for his self. They have no idea if he is even still alive, but the resilience and strength shown by these families, with what they are entering, the unimaginable pain, it leaves you in awe. What is interesting on the ground right now in israel, just to the domestic political situation and some more support for this war, stephanie, is you have to remember the netanyahu government was very divisive leading up to that atrocious attack by hamas. So a lot of folks will say right now, we dont support this government necessarily. We dont support this Prime Minister, but we support them doing whatever they need to do to keep us safe. I spoke with one man, who is a veteran of a combat unit in the idf, who has gone out and protested the government. Hes pressed that state Israeli Occupation of palestinian territories, but he sent his son off toward, when he was caught up with his combat unit, because he knows that this is not sustainable, that israelis living under the threat of hamas, which is an organization that has vowed to end the state of israel, that it is not sustainable anymore. Its a different maremount for israelis. Amna nawaz, ben rhodes, jeremy bash, i wish we had more time. I could talk to the three of you all night. Thank you so much for starting us off this evening, i appreciate it. When we come back, we have got to talk about politics. Two weeks later, and still, there is no speaker of the house, as jim jordan officially fails the first ballot. David jolly and matthew dowd are here on the chaos in the house and to remind us about jim jordans record in congress, maybe answer why he would even be up for speaker. And later, the wave of online misinformation about the israeli hamas war. Well talk about the danger of live shaping the opinion of the conflict. The 11th hour just getting underway on a very important tuesday. Tuesday. Lence. I would watch the Flight Attendants. If theyre not nervous, then im not going to be nervous. Financially, im the Flight Attendant in that situation. The relief that comes over people once they know theyve got a guide to help them through, i definitely feel privileged to be in that position. Teeth sensitivity is so common. It immediately feels like somebodys poking directly on the nerve. I recommend sensodyne. Sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. And my patients say you know doc, it really works. Lowering bad cholesterol can be hard, even with a statin. 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We control the power of the purse, and we will have to look at the Appropriation Process and limit funds going to these agencies. 2016, 2018, the mueller investigation, 2020, they suppress the Hunter Bidens 30, 2022, they rate his home nine days before an election. Now, they indict the former president , the top candidate leading and every poll. He declassified the material. But he says point blank on tape, as president , i could declassify it, now i cant. How many ballots are you willing to go through . We got to have a speaker, and it cant be some deal with the democrats. After failing to secure the votes this afternoon, jordan says the next speaker vote will go down tomorrow at 11 am. Back with me tonight to discuss, former republican congressman david jolly and msnbc Senior Analyst matthew dowd, also a former george w. Bushs strategist and founder of country over party. Mr. Jolly, to you first. You had the honor of knowing jim jordan personally. You worked together. What do we know need to know about this man . He is an insurrectionist, Conspiracy Theorists whose bid for the speakerships as that as Ron Desantiss bid for the presidency. This will not happen tomorrow. Look, we are in the world of all bets are off, but it looks like jim jordan is not the night, and he should be. The question becomes, what next . I still am and decamp that there are no crossover votes, no republicans that will vote for a democratic speaker, no democrats that will vote for a republican speaker, so then the question becomes, who do you move to an interim or Caretaker Speaker . Do you move to an interim mchenry, within, have temporary expanded authority says bigger to pass a little bit of legislation around israel, ukraine and the budget . That seems like common sense, but even that gets mired in the fact that republicans are out of step with where the nation is on policy, therefore, they dont want to lose the democrats, even in that environment. Republicans today are just as bad off as they were two weeks ago. Lets actually talk about policy, matthew. Maybe i am naive, maybe i am speaking for the Everyday Americans who liked their elected officials to actually get something done. In jim jordans 15 years in congress, not a single one of his bills has been signed into law. Why would this man be chosen for the most Important Role in congress . If you think about it, hes actually todays perfect representation of the gop. He has not accomplished anything in office. Hes been credibly accused of covering up a sex scandal, and hes been instrumental as part of an insurrection. Hes almost the perfect gop candidate for this. This to me, putting jim jordan in charge of the speakership, it would be like a football team, a nfl team saying, we will have a starting quarterback whos never completed a pass, and who does not believe in the rules of the game. That is who we will make our starting quarterback in this case, that makes no sense, except in todays gop, but in todays gop, he seems to be the perfect character that fits with all of those attributes. Lets talk about a woman who was the opposite of a perfect character for todays gop, liz cheney. I want to share what she said about Jordan Speakership it. Jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january six than any other member of the House Of Representatives. If the republicans decide that jim jordan should be the speaker of the house, there will no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. David, jim jordan is an election denier. He does not accept joe biden as our rightful, lawful precedent. We had to keep reminding our audience just how much this man was involved in january six. Whats your reaction to that . Yeah, stephanie, this is the serious part of jim jordan being on the cusp of winning. First of all, if jim jordan were to become speaker, represents Donald Trumps complete takeover of the House Of Representatives. But i also believe this, becomes a vehicle to steal the 2024 election. That is true. We know that based on jim jordans behavior going into the 2020 election, based on january six, based on his efforts to overturn it and his lack of cooperation with the j six committee, if jim jordan become speaker, the house will be used to try to steal the 2024 election. I believe that. But to defeat jim jordan, i think it would be at the hands of some real policy walks in the republican party. As matt said perfectly, he is the culmination of the last 20 years of republicans, which has moved us from less government, no government to government is the enemy. Who will stop jim jordan tomorrow . I think it is actually the appropriators in the congress, the republican appropriators to believe that they have chief conservative results by keeping the government open. Jim jordan is a shutdown conservative, appropriator to govern. I think jordan will come up and the house floor. He would not have the votes because governing conservatives will lead out shutdown conservatives. Matthew, i want you to do some moderate math for us. What is a worse deal for moderate republicans . To hold their nose and work with jim jordan or cover their ears and work with democrats . I mean, if you are looking at this from a pure political calculation of those 18 members in biden districts, clearly did a political delegation, for them to win their own districts in that case, it would be much better for them to pair up with democrats and sort themselves through this then pair up with jim jordan, who on almost every single issue, is out of step with moderate voters, which dont have to elect those republicans in those districts. If they were just looking at crass politics, which i actually think, unfortunately, most republicans have given up on actually, they no longer listen to politics, they no longer care about what voters think. They just care about what one person thinks about down in maralago, and that is what gets in this difficulty. I still hope, still hope to lay out hope that there are enough republicans, even if its a small number, that will do enough to figure out this and not reward jim jordan, who has no Business Being in congress, but most of all, he has no business leading a house and has shown no interest in leaving in his 15, 16 years there. Hes also absolutely abysmal at fundraising, which is a pretty important thing, when you got that cake. David jolly, matthew dowd, thank you both for being here tonight, i apprecia i when we come back, as the israelhamas war escalates, so do hateful darts. Our next guest shares her International Fight against antisemitism, when the 11th hour continues. Hour continues g your goals with j. P. Morgan wealth plan, a digital money coach in the chase mobile® app. Use it to set and track your goals, big and small. And see how changes you make today. Could help put them within reach. From your first big move to retiring poolside and the other goals along the way. 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Tell us what youre seeing. What do we need to understand . First of all, we need to understand that israel is under complete attack. You spoke about my own three children, but there is not an individual that has not been deployed weather on the frontlines fighting or on The Home Front fighting in hospitals, in schools, in more x. We have not even completed burying all of those that were murdered and butchered and raped and burned alive. We are not done with that part yet, and rockets keep coming, targeting israeli civilians from densely Populated Areas of gaza, a double or crime. The urgency to understand that the same and genocidal antisemitic k, that fueled these massacres, the savage attacks on civilization actually are reflected, devastatingly, in the responses to them Around The World, in protests, on campuses, on social media. That deny or explain or legitimate or scream we are hamas. Imagine screaming we are i. S. I. S. Post 9 11 . I cant, and that is what i cant get my head around. I can fully understand the pure Black And White evil of i. S. I. S. , hamas, the attacks on the most innocent people a week ago but how can we make sense of the responses that were getting Around The World and people who are saying, how moss might have an argument . So at the end of the day, the recent that i am here, as Israel Special envoy for combatting antisemitism, israel, the nationstate of the jewish people, and Indigenous People that returns after a millennia, to our ancestral homeland, to attacks on jews all over the world resulted from these attacks. As he said, it happened days after and in many ways, it aligns seemingly regular in the vigils, civilized individuals, who are meant to identify with the foundational principles of life and liberty, of a genocidal organization, and the only explanation for that, stephanie, is antisemitism. Its the single only explanation. A hatred that has lasted for thousands of years by mutating, Mutating Over and over again. Post covid, people can understand that when you have a strain of a virus, and it mutates, what you inoculate against different the virus. Lets say all across the nail, which we all sort of agreed that is antisemitism. It is imposition because a new strain has developed. This new strain of antizionisms antisemitism. That Mission State of the jewish people that has enabled the pivot from targeting the individual jew and barring her from a political place in society to targeting the jewish nation state and barring it from an equal place on the family of nations by dehumanizing, by delegitimizing and applying the pool standards to it. I have to tell you, even tonight, the awful sites from the hospital, the only single entity, as we look at these tragedies unfold that can be blamed, that must be held to account, that must be blamed for everything that has happened, hoping humans as shields, weapons and pawns in their war on civilization, not just the jews or jewish nationstate is hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization, a proxy of a genocidal regime in iran, alongside other proxies, like those which is basically confirmed by the idf shocked at the world with a miss launch, or whatever it did, at the end of the day, actually injure hundreds more civilians in gaza. But they too are held hostage by the same genocidal Terror Organization. We cant confirm yet the origin of what caused this explosion, but what we know is that every person in the hospital was a victim. Theyre a victim of hate. And you put out a Statement Today addressing the rise in hate, not just as it relates to jews, but the rising hate across the world. What is your message . The most important thing that i think we have to understand is that this is not, as he said, just an attack on israel. This barbaric, savage terror, genocidal Terror Attack on the state of israel, driven by the antisemitism, is an attack on our shared humanity. We have to be very careful with the False Equivalency that places democratic countries, were not only do you have the right to protect or civilians but must protect their civilians from that genocidal hate and comparing them to that genocidal Terror Organization that uses human beings and actually celebrates when human beings are injured or killed. Denying them access to humanitarian corridors that we create, denying or stealing humanitarian aid as we found the evidence today, humanitarian aid that is delivered to gaza. The list goes on and on, hiding behind hospitals and mosques so that, and i had to be so honest, stephanie, regardless of what will happen in the upcoming days, more civilians will be injured. Because hamas hides below the civilians and uses them as weapons. The goal, as far as i am concerned, in order to be able to hoard hamas to account they, dont care what we say, but we care what we say. The countries that can pressure, for example, they take in those that can be evacuated from neighborhoods, just as israelis, by the way, 500,000 israelis that have been evacuated from their homes, there is a war with gaza and egypt. The campy evacuated. There are responses to humanitarian aid that we can and must launch, pressures europa hold it to account as it is targeting those civilians. Its going to actually be a great disservice. In the face of darkness, we have the opportunity to be delighted, thank you for being here. 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A lot of the content that were seeing right now includes terrorist propaganda, includes extraordinarily graphic violent content, miss and disinformation and hate speech. The average social media user has been increasingly difficult time ascertaining is real or fake. There are verified badges that could now be purchased on multiple Social Media Platforms that give off authenticity. It is not just public trust, this issue can have a real world impact on public safety. With me tonight, nbc news correspondent jake ward and achiya schatz, ceo thick reporter, which focuses on fighting disinformation, hate speech and other malicious, online activities in israel. Achiya, walk us through the kind of disinformation you have been seeing online in the last nine days because it is crucially important for our audience to understand this. Yeah, we need to understand that when we started, it was a of information created from the confusion, the fast attack and people found themselves in fear and looking for answers. In this void came all kind of Interest Groups trying to shake the narrative to the public, both from within the country and without the country. Weve seen Railway Video circulating not related to the area trying to promote narratives. We have seen iranian campaigns to glorify the or and their own act, as for example, saying the huge cyber attack was the cause, biden was the cause, the success of the horrible attack. Weve also seen internal trying to push narratives that would have their leaders, for example, if it was not for the failure at that leadership or the army, it was treated from within. Starting to claim all kinds of things, the left or the protesters. And last, weve seen conspirators of covid coming and saying, its a New World Order and taking the moment to shape their kind of suction and lies upon the public. Jake, same question to you. Talk to us about the disinformation that is out there, and out dangers is especially now, because there is this void or vacuum of information from governments. Take about all the people who have been desperate to get information from the government in israel, and they have become reliant on whatever they can get from social media. They have no other choice. Yes, stephanie, i really think we have been index terrible bargain over the course of the last few days, ever since october 7th, in which we have simultaneously what social media to give it to us straight, right, give me the unfiltered, raw feed from the front lines of what is happening, so that i can see for myself. Of course, that hunger, as achiya points out, creates an extraordinary opportunity for bad actors to come in and manipulate reality. Then simultaneously, you have the absolute possibility on the part of major platforms to truly get a handle on what israel but trying to show sort of post by post because this piece of violent content serve some sort of public award or newsgathering purpose or should be taken down. All of this to say, the moment that i was most kind of tied up and did not quite know what to do was right in the middle of last week, you have jewish schools and Jewish CommunityCenters Across the world telling us, nbc, that they had been instructed, or been suggested by the Israeli Government, that they go to the students of their schools and have tempt Ali Instagram and tiktok off of their phones. The Israeli Government told us that was not in fact something that they had done, multiple school said that they had. That part wasnt clear enough. Then, youre in this moment where, of course, parents and teachers would want to shield children from violent content, but at the same time, the idea of taking social media away from children at a time when teenagers and young people are trying to figure out what is really happening, its just an impossible situation. We got into a world with social media that its so hard to tell what is real and what is fake. And, i have been speaking to people, hamas is not terribly sophisticated about this stuff. It is other actors like hezbollah who will be more sophisticated if they choose to begin moving across the social media space. Its an incredible devils bargain, but i think we are all grappling at this moments time. I am going to ask you the question, jake, because it only makes you harder to cover this and to deal with the social Media Companies every day, but you have to, what have theyve been like to deal with over the last week . I am guessing that you are calling them and their pr desk every single day over the last week. Are they being helpful, are they being open, are they being more logical than usual . What we need from those companies right now, once and for all, is open, honest transparency. What have theyve been like over the last week . You know, i will say that it is never a terribly open communication channel. Its an antagonistic it dan well should be. As it should be, that is how it is supposed to work. For me, they have beneficial statements from the major platform saying that they are taking extra steps, and they are trying to get arab and hebrew speakers into position to deal with misinformation. They issued official statements to us wherever they can, but we dont have a good sense of what is going on inside. We dont have a good sense of how they are responding to the eus increased pressure on them. We dont have a good sense of that across platforms, and that is, i think, one of the many difficult things. We have now is what is the appropriate response . How do we deal with the information that we are in now. Jake ward, achiya schatz, thank you both so much. I am sorry. The recent that i am so fired up, is because those are very platforms that dont take down the hate, its about all the misinformation out there, put some light on it and let people see what is out there, but then when you go to deal with those companies and speak to their executives on record or ask them, how they operate or how their systems work, bogus, you get nothing. When was the last time a major ceo from anyone at the major Social Media Platforms sat down and did and on the record information interview, i cant remember. I would like to sit down with any of them. Given how crucially important the companies are. 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