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Well talk about the Significant Developments with california senator alex padilla. In new york city, former President Trump is back in court for day three of the Civil Fraud Trial against him. Why the judge has ordered a gag order on trump. And the largest Healthcare Workers strike in history is now under way. At least 75,000 Caser Workers hit the picket line. And we begin with what comes next for the house after the historic ouster of speaker Kevin Mccarthy. Moments ago, House Judiciary Committee chair jim jordan confirmed he is now running to succeed Kevin Mccarthy as speaker. Hes the first person to announce his candidacy. This comes one day after eight House Republicans joined with democrats to remove mccarthy from his post. It is first time in American History a speaker has been removed in such a manner. Nbc news caught up with mccarthy this morning as he arrived at the capitol just moments ago. Mr. Mccarthy, how are you feeling this morning . Great well, one of mccarthys top allies, North Carolina congressman Patrick Mchenry is stepping in as temporary speaker while republicans search for a successor. Republicans say there will be a speaker Candidate Forum next tuesday followed by an election on wednesday to choose who the party will put forward as speaker On The House Floor. After that happens, the full house will vote for a new speaker. With us now to take a closer look at all of this, nbc news chief political analyst chuck todd, and nbc news capitol hill Correspondent Ali Vitali and geoff bennett, msnbc political contributor. Ali who are some of the other people who could potentially be in the running for Kevin Mccarthys old job . Youre right, jose, to say that congressman jim jordan, the chairman of the judiciary committee, is the first person to officially publicly put his name in the ring, but my colleague scott wong and i heard as early as last night that the number two House Republican, steve scalise, the person who many believe to be next in line for this job, has also been making calls to lawmakers, trying to shore up support and making some initial inquiries to see what his whip count or count of republicans that would support him might look like. But those are not the only names that were looking at. Of course, you see on the other side of the screen some of the other people who will be paying close attention to. People like congressman tom emmer who is also within former speaker mccarthys current leadership apparatus, congressman garrett graves, a close ally of the former speakers, jim jordan, tom cole, veteran lawmaker on the hill and who during the multiple overtures that people were making of the potential to motion to vacate, many times coles name was mentioned and he said he didnt have interest in that job. Of course, jim jordan said the same thing until mccarthy himself was vacated. Well see if coles opinion on that has changed at all. And then, of course, kevin hearn is also a name we have been hearing a lot from our sources and important to point out the other name on the screen there is the current speaker, Patrick Mchenry, who, of course, was put there by a list that mccarthy had to submit to the parliamentarian. Hes a close ally of the former speakers, that list is meant to show who mccarthy trusted and, of course, mchenry is top of that list, having been with him for multiple rounds of critical negotiations throughout mccarthys short speakership. That list is coming together, calls are starting to be made. In theory well see The Field Take Shape next week. I dont expect this to be a seamless process. And so, chuck, is there a path Going Forward for republicans in the house . Well, i dont know what the path what that even means, which is when you say republicans, are they going to act as one here at all . Look, i have one a couple theories on this of what how to watch the next week. You know, i think the weekend well find out over the weekend how exhausted republicans are from this infighting. Maybe whether there is any movement of the conservatives. My this is one of those situations where if they cant get to consensus quickly, we may be operating in this sort of speakerless world, right, where maybe mchenry keeps this open, they have this temporary world while they try to figure this out, maybe they decide to postpone the speaker fight until after the budget issues are resolved, maybe letting mchenry be the sacrificial lamb to negotiate these things because, look, i think the decision by mccarthy and the mainstream wing of the party to surrender as quickly as they did yesterday after this vote, i think it sends a message to the rest of the conference, youre on your own. So i just dont foresee a situation where anybody who is elected speaker will be somehow stronger than mccarthy. Theyll be weaker. The question is how much weaker. But no matter what theyll be weaker and i think were a month away from watching the house be governed by just charge petition. Apology for using that Crazy Washington phrase. Ill let the hill crew explain that. I wondered, you were talking about what happened yesterday, and how you described that. Is there any other path that the then speaker could have had or reaction . Look, i think that they fave gave up too quickly on the democratic idea. Democrats were going to be a cheap date for mccarthy, but you had to do something, you had to buy popcorn, had to buy something, had to buy a drink, right . And he didnt even offer to do that. I think this is one of those situations where had he been willing to fight for a while, democrats eventually would have bailed him out, and would have he would have been able to forge this partnership, but the fact he surrendered that quickly it is fascinating he threw in the towel as fast as he did. I do think there was an opportunity there, there was no incentive for democrats to come to his aid immediately because gaetz said hell do this every day. So the democrats were going to cast multiple votes to bail mccarthy out. I do Think Mccarthy and his aides misplayed the democrats here. I think they would have been there for him in about three weeks. But he didnt closureclearly ha patience to try that. How did we get to this point . It is a great question. Look, you can track what happened yesterday evening, Kevin Mccarthy being the first House Speaker ever ousted in history by members of his own party, no less, to what transpired more than a decade ago. They demanded government shutdowns, they demanded unworkable spending cuts. Boehner fended them off for a while, but ultimately left. He was succeeded by paul ryan, who took that job reluctantly. Paul ryan found himself fighting many of the same battles and the election of donald trump. And then you have someone like paul ryan who, dont forget, was the partys Vice President ial nominee and he also left congress, left politics altogether. So what you see, jose, over the last two, potentially three decades, is the evolution of the gop. A Conservative Party that once defined conservatism as preserving a traditional sense of steadiness and strength, it has evolved over time to a party, this is made most evident by what is happening in the house gop, a party that elevates the loudest voices in the room. Voices who arent invested necessarily in governing, but in the case of matt gaetz, who are invested in score settling. You have matt gaetz, who has no real legislative accomplishments, he was able to topple his partys leader with no plan for what comes next, no plan for ukraine funding, no plan for getting beyond the next government shutdown, which happens in november. And now youre left with a House Republican conference which appears to be ungovernable. And apart from that, it also, i think, robs the Republican Party and this Election Year of a chance to shine a light on what they perceive to be joe bidens vulnerabilities because right now all were talking about is the extremism within the gop. And it makes it really hard for republicans to hold on to swing seats if theyre going to need to retain their majority in the next election. So, ali, what could potentially happen to matt gaetz as a result of all of this . Well, the word expulsion has been used, perhaps unsurprisingly, jose. We know this from going through the scandals with congressman george santos. You cant vote to expel someone from congress. Thats something they have to do on their own, in most cases. They can expel him from the republican conference. Thats an active conversation. Yesterday, the general tone and tenor of the Text Messages i was getting from republican lawmakers as they sat On The House Floor and watched this unfold, many of them sort of watching through their hands, peeking through the cracks in their hands because they were so aghast at what they were witnessing, they were embarrassed and they were livid and frustrated with people like gaetz who didnt just make this happen by pushing the actual motion to vacate the chair, but also hung this over the former speakers head for the entirety of his short tenure up here on capitol hill. I will say chuck makes a fascinating and correct point, when he says that mccarthy could have done something on the democratic front. Democrats were unified coming out of their caucus meeting yesterday, very strong and pleased with that unity. But i spoke to multiple moderates who said they could have seen political upside back in their Home Districts where they have tough reelection battles with being seen as the people who come together and just help this place work a little bit, fine it means crossing party lines to get a speaker, even from another party, but someone who will not shut the government down and, remember, thats what this is about. Mccarthy being ousted because he chose to keep the government functioning and happened to do that with democratic votes when his own members didnt want to do that. But mccarthy made none of those overtures. Yesterday afternoon we reported that there were some phone calls in the words of one of my sources from republicans begging some democrats to come to their aid. Those calls were too little, too late and none of them were from mccarthy himself. I think chucks right. Maybe if he had done something more, maybe if he had run out the clock, things could have changed because i know from talking to some democrats that they allowed that that was a possibility for them. Chuck, im wondering, a lot of this has the ingredients included in november of 2024. Im wondering, chuck, what role did that play and what role does that play Going Forward . Well, you know, the irony is ill never forget a briefing that we got here at nbc news from Kevin Mccarthys unofficial super pac, that was orchestrating the campaign to try to get the house. And they kept saying, well, we at the time, im speaking as them, we need to have at least 15 to 20 pickups in order to have a governing majority. So ill give Kevin Mccarthy and his team credit. They knew then, right . That if they only had a 4 to 10 seat majority, they were in deep trouble, it was ungovernable. Here we are. Were ungovernable Going Forward. I dont know how it makes it easier for moderate republicans who won Swing Districts in New York State to win. I dont know how this chaos is easier for the moderate republicans in california who narrowly won. Thanks to Kevin Mccarthys financial help in california, how they win here. Look, and then you take away mccarthy, mainstream donters were donors are going to flee. The mainstream republican donors gave Kevin Mccarthy a bunch of money. I dont know if theyll give jim jordan money if he were speaker. I would be shocked. I dont think jim jordan can get to 218 votes. I dont know if theyll be there for steve cleese and wont be there if theyre goal is to shut down the this feels like it is selfreinforcing doom loop that is likely to cost republicans control of the house here. I cannot sit here and paint a scenario barring something on the outside that has nothing do with congressional action, but this is a path to losing total control of the house at some point. Chuck todd, ali vitali and geoff bennett, thank you very much for being with us this morning. Coming up, well hear what voters in mccarthys district have to say about him being forced out as speaker. Plus, reaction to the chaos when we talk live to california senator alex padilla. Well see good to see you. Well chat in a minute. Later, a Mass Shooting overnight injures at least five people at a historically black college in maryland. Were back in 60 seconds. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. S youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. This is american infrastructure, a prime target for cyberattacks. But the same aipowered security that protects all of google also defends these services for everyone who lives here. The chewy app has everything for pets. Hungry pets, itchy pets, scratchy pets, and most importantly, your pet. Every day great prices and 35 off your first authorship order. Right to your door. Download the chewy app. 15 past the hour. The historic downfall of House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy unfolded, there was another historymaking moment on the other side of the capitol. Laphonza butler of california was officially sworn in by Vice President harris to replace the late senator Dianne Feinstein. Senator butler is now the first black openly lgbtq senator. Meanwhile, today, long time senator Dianne Feinstein will lie in state at san franciscos city hall where she once served as mayor. Her funeral is tomorrow, when President Biden is set to speak at a Memorial Event for her. Joining us now is california senator alex padilla. Senator, thank you, always appreciate your time. I want to first get your thoughts on your new colleague, senator butler. Thank you. Good to be with you. What a contrast. What is happening in the house yesterday and the upside of what was happening in the senate literally history in the making. Ive been blessed to know laphonza butler, senator butler now, she first moved to los angeles in 2009, worked with her in a number of capacities. I know shell be phenomenal during her time in the senate. She leads with heart, she is also a strategic thinker and just great to have a partner like her given the challenges and the near term battles that we have, not just in the senate, not just in congress, but facing the country. Lets talk about the house. What do you make of what happened yesterday . Look, this is what happens when republicans are in charge. I think at the last segment you covered the evolution of the socalled conservative Republican Party from the Newt Gingrich era to the boehner experience, to trump obviously, and now. They are anarchists, republicans eating their own. What they want to play political games on who the next speaker ought to be. The real consequence here is what is happening to the people of the United States. Americans deserve better, americans expect better. We are narrowly averted this government shutdown. And maybe thats what their motive is, if they werent able to shut down the government in their entirety, theyre shutting down the House Of Representatives, we still have to face the realities of ukraine. They need of our assistance. The 45day continuing resolution on the spending plan, were almost a week into it and were going backwards, no negotiations are happening because there is no leader among House Republicans. So, we have a lot of work cut out for us. I want to get your thoughts on what is going on in our country, the humanitarian crisis, it is focused on men, women and children, who have made the most incredible sacrifices to leave their country, and come to the United States with a dream of requesting asylum. There were hundreds of thousands of encounters along the u. S. Southern border in august. Tens of thousands more on the way. How do, senator, you deal with this reality of people doing anything and everything they can to have a new life in the United States . Yeah, The First Step Is ive been doing this, my colleagues appreciate the various elements of an immigration conversation. There are people who do not flee their homes and their home countries by choice. They flee because they have to. Maybe it is because of natural disaster, maybe it is because of violence and fear for their lives, maybe it is because of Public Corruption or oppression, you see so many venezuelans coming and seeking asylum in the United States, it is for a reason. We need to revisit the policy and process. We need to ensure that were investing in border security. It is not just about a wall that is going to help. But it is about increasing the capacity, more resources to the departments and agencies that we charge with handling refugees and asylum claims and nonprofit organizations in so many parts of the country, who are playing supportive roles with Emergency Food and shelter and family reunification, even Job Placement in many instances and we cannot forget the people who are here who have been here, undocumented or integral part of our communities, through work source, ownership, through neighbors and friends, and family. The nation celebrates hispanic heritage month. You and many of us celebrated every day of our existence. But just wondering what is hispanic heritage mean to you . It is an opportunity to highlight not just the richest of our culture, a lot of fun to talk about, you know, food were preparing or music and the movies that we like, but really put a spotlight on our contributions to the country and all forms, whether it is local communities or private sector, and in government and political leadership. I shared with you the responsibility and opportunity i feel since becoming the first latino elected to represent california and the United States senate. It just means that our critical processes is increasingly inclusive and i pray and hope that the policies and the Spending Plans that come as a result are reflective of the beautiful diversity of our country. Because it matters, it really does. Senator alex padilla, thank you for being with us. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Up next, were keeping our eyes on new york city where it is day three of the Civil Fraud Trial for former President Donald Trump. 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His company, and two of his sons brought by new York Attorney general letitia james. The trumps accused of lying about their net worth of various trump properties. Former president has denied any wrongdoing and on tuesday the judge imposed a partial gag order on all parties with respect to posting or speaking publicly about members of the judges staff. Joining us now, Msnbcs Lindsey Reiser outside the courthouse and joyce vance, former u. S. Attorney and professor at the university of Alabama School of law. What are the terms of the gag order and where do things stand today . Yesterday, the judge saying he does not tolerate any attacks against any members of his staff and saying consider this a gag order for everyone here, for all members of my staff, from here on out and saying he would sanction if that order is violated. The former president is here today as is Attorney General james, the former president before walking in did lobby some attacks at the cameras in the hallway, not against any members of the judges staff, but against james, who is often the focus of his ire. Today calling her a political animal, used derogatory terms against her in the past. The former president continuing to repeat the things hes saying we need to clarify saying hes not entitled to a jury trial. That language isnt in this statute. Neither side asked for a jury trial, so now it is a bench trial. And also saying that there was no fraud, everybody was happy, there are no victims in this case. Well, jose, as part of the statute the Attorney Generals Office doesnt need to prove there was a victim or an intent to defraud. Were hearing from Donald Bender, the former accountant, the crux of this witness is to enter into evidence some documents that the Attorney Generals Office say are the Financial Statements that are over inflated, that contain those exaggerations of assets. The Attorney Generals Office trying to prove that this accountant and his office were compiling these Financial Statements based on information that trump and his Team Provided during cross examination, though, the Trump Defense attorneys trying to prove he was the one responsible for drafting these. Now, we are expected to take a break and then lunch today and some familiar names on the witness list we could hear from throughout this trial, jose, include former cfo allen weisselberg, the former president himself, his adult children, and so it is unclear if the former president is going to remain in the court the rest of the day but he is there today. So, joyce, lets talk about a few things. This whole jury trial versus bench trial, what happened . Is that unusual . So this is a technical legal issue, jose, but apparently the former president s legal team decided that because some of the Attorney Generals claims sounded in what is called equity, these are a particular species of legal claims, that they werent eligible for a jury trial and didnt make the request, but that is something they could have litigated if they chose to, could have asked for a jury trial and then briefed the issues before the judge. Lets talk about the issue of the judge Warning Trump there would be serious sanctions if he doesnt adhere to the gag order. What could those sanctions look like, joyce . Right. So if you wanted to do something that was designed to provoke the ire of a judge, it would be to attack his staff. And this is what has brought this situation down on Donald Trumps head. Judges have a wide range of sanctions available to them in situations like this. They can impose penalties that are payable to the court. They can exclude evidence. There could be contempt proceedings, though i think that would be unlikely, it would take a great deal of intentional misconduct by trump. But it is possible he could be held in contempt. Lindsey reiser and joyce vance, thank you for being with us. Up next, reaction on the Campaign Trail, mccarthys ousting in the house. Plus, nikki haley now surging in the latest polls . And one key 2024 state. Youre watching jose diazbalart reports on msnbc. Diazbalart reports on msnbc. I work for the city of new york as a police administrator. I oversee approximately 20 people and my memory just has to be sharp. I always hear people say, you know, when you get older, you know, people lose memory. I didnt want to be that person. I decided to give prevagen a try. My memory became much sharper. I remembered more ive been taking prevagen for four years now. Prevagen. At stores everywhere without a prescription. 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He just got canned . Who is going to replace him . That doesnt make any sense, you know . Joining us now is nbcs dasha burns, who has some new reaction from the republican contenders for the white house. Dasha, good morning. What more are you hearing . What is happening on the hill is not happening in a vacuum. It is, of course, bleeding out on to the Campaign Trail because it says a lot about the state of the Republican Party and a lot about what 2024 is going to look like. You just heard from voters there, it is going to have an impact on the perception of the Republican Party, of the future of the gop and thats why youre hearing some interesting reaction from these contenders. You have former Vice President mike pence, calling this chaos, saying this is a bad look. You have certain members of the Republican Party siding with democrats. You have former Governor Ron Desantis saying he was opposing mccarthy before it was cool, his quote, of course. Not necessarily having a lot of love for matt gaetz either saying this potentially might be just a fundraiing tactic for gaetz and not a good look for the Republican Party calling it political theater. You got tim scott saying that it doesnt help the gop image, Asa Hutchinson saying it is a gift for democrats, got trump on truth social asking why republicans are fighting with themselves instead of fighting the radical left democrats, and earlier this morning there is even speculation and some asking if trump might be the next speaker. Take a listen to this. Would you take the job . A lot of people asked me about it. Im focused. Im leading. I dont know if you read the papers, but were leading by, like, 50 points for president. If i can help them during the process, i would do it. Thats a far fetched fever dream of a small group in the party. That goes to show the sort of chaotic state that republicans are in right now, jose. Dasha burns, thank you so very much. And joining us now former governor of ohio, john kasich, he also spent nearly two decades representing ohio and the house and is now an nbc news political analyst. John, so, lets talk about what happened yesterday. What was your reaction to everything . I thought he would hold on and, you know, i think i was told chuck todd said earlier if he waited longer, the democrats may have come. I dont know. I know that his Media Appearances on sunday, which were where he claimed the democrats had put us on the edge of a shutdown was not received well. I think the the inquiry on impeachment i think hacked off the democrats, so they were reluctant to come to his aid and they did not. Where i think we are now, jose, is this, i think ideally it would be the Largest Group of republicans who could make some kind of an agreement with a handful of democrats to be able to marginalize the extremes. Theyre not ready to do that. I talked to some folks this morning and i think where they are is theyre going to see if they can find a consensus person who can be the speaker. And that might also involve changing the rule that, you know, one person can bring down the speaker. So right now im told that everything is extremely raw, that everybody is really fired up, some feel so strongly, theyre angry at the guys and the ladies that voted against mccarthy. It is just a raw situation, which is why i think they have taken a pause here for a week. But ultimately if they cannot find a consensus candidate, if in fact the frustration continues to boil, then i think there is actually an opportunity for some kind of an agreement with democrats. Democrats would get something, republicans would still hold the speakership. I kind of like that idea. I think you get more done. But thats not where they are right now. And we got to remember, there are a lot of republicans worried that if they make a deal with democrats, they live in a gerrymandered district, where if they make a deal with republicans, im sorry, with democrats, they could be primaried. Some of that applies to democrats as well if they make a deal with republicans and youre, for example, last night, mccarthy had been supported, they would have had to go home and face the primary. The fact is, jose, everything is so polarized in this country, were beginning to see the ramifications of it and what we have to keep an eye on is the economic repercussions of Something Like this. If all of a sudden the market starts to head down, everybody is going to say, get it fixed. Right now it is people watching, sort of like a parlor game in washington. And im just thinking, governor, with all of this division and with all of this rancor and with all the so many upset over so many things, is there a possibility of anything getting done . And i just dont when is the last time that democrats and republicans worked together to support a speaker . How could this happen . Well, look, jose, we have seen this going on for a long time. And what has happened is people are in their silos. And so they believe, if youre a republican, you believe that the democrats are a force of evil. If you are a democrat, you look at republicans, you look at the supreme court, you say republicans are a force of evil. Jose, i honestly think we sort of need a spiritual reset where people begin to realize that other people are not full of evil, that people are they are people that we can get along with. But right now there is just no trust. And when there is no trust, there is no ability to make an agreement. Again, if the republicans can get consensus candidate and that person becomes speaker and theyre not on, you know, on a knifes edge about being taken out in the short period of time, if that doesnt happen, and frustration boils over, maybe there is an opportunity for some sort of an agreement between the bulk of republicans and some of the democrats that would like to see, you know, the country move forward. This Problem Solvers Caucus may be something that could play in the end, if things really boil over, maybe it could play a role in trying to bring people together. The Problem Solvers Caucus is made up of republicans and democrats equally who are trying to put something together. It is not different than what i did with tim penny back in the old days when he and i got republicans and democrats to sit down to figure out how to take a penny out of every dollar of federal spending, which really ignited the effort to try to get to a balanced budget. That was a long time ago. Now we face a different scenario and, jose, for people like you and i, it doesnt make sense that they cant get their act together here. Former governor john kasich, always a pleasure to see you. I thank you for your time. Okay, jose, thank you. And right now the civil trial of former President Donald Trump is in a break. The state of new york making the case against the former president , his company and two of his sons in a 250 million civil suit. I want to bring in lisa rubin who has been inside that courtroom for now coming up on three days. What has it been like today . Reporter today has been all about Donald Bender who was former President Trumps Lead Accountant at the Accounting Firm mazars. Theyre trying to establish that bender didnt do his job and that the folks in the Trump Organization who did not have a cpa among themhod have been ide their compilation of the to statements of financial cond that lie at the heart of this and at the end of cross examination, Right Beforehe Tmp Lawyer Jesus Suarez A Powerful Concession from bender that he didnt comply with Accounting Industry guidelines about familiarizing himself with the methods of valuing the assets. But at the end of the day, the issue is not whether Donald Bender was or was not a good accountant or whether he was overly reliant on the Trump Organization for his income, he wasnt a great accountant and weighs overreliant on the Trump Organization, the question is whether people in the marketplace could have been and were defrauded by what the trumps said their assets were worth. And based on the documents that have been admitted, all of those statements of financial condition, which the Attorney Generals Office used Donald Bender to get into the record, i believe the Attorney General overall will come out ahead after Donald Benders testimony, jose. Lisa, this break is for how long and when do they get back into it . Reporter the judge expressed annoyance yesterday. The breaks were supposed to be ten minutes. He joked ten minutes meant 15 minutes, not 30 minutes. You know that donald trump has been coming out into the hallway and address reporters. Each time he comes in and out of the courtroom and that means breaks have been stretching to about half an hour each time he comes in and out. So it remains to be seen how long this break is. I probably got to run and go back inside so i dont miss any more of the action. Thank you very much. I really appreciate you coming out and being with us. Appreciate that. 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Well, i think it is going to be just another indication of the dysfunction of the Republican Party, and in some ways theyre no nothings, havent done much, and so it is going to be part of the evidence, jose, of a party that kind of collapsed under the weight of its autocratic wing, of the antidemocratic forces, and this is just one moment. I think we have to think about it in the context of what happened to john boehner, to paul ryan. There is a kind of direct relationship in my view between the disruption of the tea party and these maga republicans, these political anihilists. This is another sign of the Republican Party collapsing in on itself. You know, eddie, ive been thinking about this, this is so problematic on so many the fact is that, you know, democracy is often times messy, and its flawed. But democracy works. All of this polarization and all of these difficulties that are sometimes selfinflicted in so many cases here, im just wondering, how do you think this plays as far as the ongoing arc of what a democracy looks like . Thats such a great question. Remember, democracy works when there are those who participate in it who are committed to its basic principles, to its underlying norms. When you have actors who are not so much committed to the principles but only engaged in their own pursuit of the will of power, then democracy is in jep je jeopardy. We think of matt gaetz and the other seven. When you make this bargain with forces that are antidemocratic at their core in order to hold on to power, you will end up getting bit, it seems to me. Thats what we saw happen with Kevin Mccarthy. Thats what we are seeing happen to the Republican Party more generally. Eddie glaude, always a treat to speak with you. Thank you for being with us. Thank you, my friend. 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Nurses are not on the picket line, at least registered nurses on this. They signed a contract with kaiser last year that will extend for four years. Kaiser permanente have plans in place over the next three days to be able to cover particularly for emergency services. But you may see patients who have elective surgery might have to put it off until next week. This strike is expected to end saturday morning, 6 00 a. M. Local time. We will see as these talks progress whether there may be more walkouts. What are the repercussions for patients . They will probably if you have something thats elective surgery, like a Knee Replacement you dont necessarily need to have today, it might get put off until next week. Some delays with certain things. Things might be slower in the hospital. Again, you are taking about maintenance workers, support staff. Some of those things might be slower for people who already are in the hospital. At this point, kaiser will make sure patients are safe. We were talking to john kasich. He said what happens in congress should have repercussions on the economy. Im wondering, is wall street responding . They are watching closely. The big issues, the clock is ticking. The deal they did come up with over the weekend to avoid a shutdown pushes the can down the road to next month. They are only going to have 4 1 2 weeks to try to come up with a new deal to avert another shutdown. Thats one of the things that people are watching. We have some data this morning on private payrolls, a little weaker than expected. So far, the economy has sort of been balancing. If we were to have another government shutdown, that could push things over the edge. We are watching treasury yields, the Interest Rates that continue to move higher, which is tough on the economy. Anybody who tried to get a mortgage, its at 7 plus for some people. Thats really difficult if you are trying to buy a home or if you are trying to buy a car. Folks are watching to see whether the republicans can choose a speaker quickly. Thanks. I was thinking, how long have i had the luck and fortune of being your friend and working with you . Its been some time. I know. Its been like 30 years when we were in second grade. Thank you so much. Great seeing you. An important heads up for you today. Your cell phone will blair an Emergency Alert this afternoon. Its a test. At 2 20 p. M. Eastern, the loud tone will go off on phones, tvs, radios around our country for about a minute to test the Emergency Alert system. This will pop up on your phone, this is a test. No action is needed. The system allows the government to warn the country if theres a widespread emergency or disaster. Just be on the lookout for that. That wraps up the hour for me. You can reach me on social media. Thank you for the privilege of your time. Andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now