Government shutdown. Its every monday night like this . Just asking for a friend. The House On Fire something tells Me Congresswomen and see pelosi has a few things to get off her chest. The speaker emeritus here on set, and she is coming up first. Plus, the head of the july joins knowledge more dangerous votes on social, media and he might have committed a felony today in south carolina. Andrew weissmann is standing by with his reaction. Also tonight, we are counting down to the first live interview with the star witness at the january six committee. Rachel maddow joins me with Cassidy Hutchinson. Later, as the president and his Predecessor Jewel for backtoback visits to michigan, did one of them has a long history of broken promises to the same people hes trying to pitch. Remember when the Government Shutdown in 2013 . I sure, to my first guest definitely does. In case you dont, let me refresh your memory. Basically, republicans like mike lee and ted cruz, and a bunch of other ones were angry about providing health care to more people. They were so intense on Defunding Obamacare that they shut the government down. At that, time i was working in the Obama Administration and i, thought we were dealing with the most unreasonable obstructionist bad faith actors that i would ever encounter in my career in washington. Ive got to, say this fight right now about whether or not tough on the government has made 2013 seem kind of like the good old days. At least that 2013 shutdown was about something. It was a ridiculous policy and they were definitely, wrong but at least it was not policy disagreement, the hidden obamacare, and they wanted to and. It today, the most powerful members of this House Republican congress, who are determining the agenda of that conference dont have any agenda at all. They literally cannot articulate what this is all about. Their agenda is to seize the role of government altogether. Their agenda is to burn it all down. That is the entire guiding principle of the most powerful wing of this caucus. That doesnt seem to be the registering for who had the sense well, you have to keep the government open, if people want to close the, government it only makes it. Weaker why would they want to stop paying the, troops or stop paying the Border Agents in the coast guard . I dont understand how that makes you stronger, i dont understand what point theyre trying to make. Doesnt it kind of sound like hes an observer, a spectator, not the speaker of the house . The person third and lie to the presidency . My first guest tonight refers to him as the shrinking speaker. Its pretty apt, because he has no control and does not seem to know how to assert. Its the most powerful members in the caucus or taking their case, not from, him but from maralago. They are not even hiding it. If donald trump posted last night, quote, unless you get everything, shut it. Down thats to be exactly what they plan to. Do lets be, honest this was all kind of predictable. Despite their brief flirtation when they were on the Campaign Trail with pretending to want to govern on issues like addressing inflation, and lowering gas, prices theyre blowing it all up agenda has been there guiding principle in the majority. Just consider a few of their crowning achievements over the last few months. They spent countless, im talking countless hours, on meaningless resolutions intended to punish their political enemies. Like, say Censuring Democratic congressman adam schiff, what a good use of time. They have been trying to retaliate against federal Law Enforcement for daring to hold donald trump accountable. They were threatening to defund the justice department, and the fbi. Earlier this, month when congress came back from their longer recess with time running out to fund the government, the very first thing Kevin Riccardi did, under pressure of his right flank was launched a bogus Impeachment Inquiry into joe biden without a purpose. Because this congressman or because donald trump told them to. So the connections here . What exactly do they want to impeach him for is really anyones guess at this point. Here we, are just five days from the government shutting down, which will happen huge and whats on their agenda this week . Well, they are making time in their schedule to hold their first impeachment hearing. Just two days before Government Funds run out. Oversight committee made it official, in just a few hours ago with the witness list and everything. His Committee Says republicans are going to finally do what they have tried, and failed to accomplish over the last eight months that theyve been looking into. This quote, presenting evidence knowledge of and role in his familys International Business practices. It sounds a lot like what weve been hearing for months. Look, Whether Mccarthy wants to go along with all of this or not, this Impeachment Inquiry and Government Shutdown, it does not really have a choice. Without the nile of his party, he wont be speaker. Because of, that he seems to be unwilling to tell them. Now all of this begs the question, is being speaker so great . Especially when members of your own party seem to humiliate you on a daily basis . Im just wondering. From my vantage, point the man third in line for the presidency has found himself hostage basically to a group of people who have no desire for him to succeed, and no desire for the institution of congress to work. None of this is about different approaches to governing, or policy views. Theyve literally want to shut down the government. Its about ceasing the role of government altogether. That is the undergo. Mister speaker, when you ask the point the answer is pretty clear. Their agenda is dysfunction. Thats the whole point. Joining me now is the House Speaker congressman nancy pelosi of california. Thank you so much for joining me this evening. Its great to see you. Its great to see you, congratulations on your new time slot. Its a wonderful show. My pleasure to do so, thank you. I want to speak to you, youve been in congress for more than three decades, two of those decades in leadership. Have you ever seen the house this dysfunctional . Its pretty dysfunctional, but all three of the shutdowns we have had had been under republican speakers. Last one, the longest one, and the biggest, one in history was on her republican speaker President Trump who said i take ownership of the shutdown, and now hes encouraging this Republican Congress to shut down governments. It cost the economy tens of billions of dollars, it says to our Men And Women In Uniform who are the military, or in federal Law Enforcement, you are not going to get paid. Its as 2 million women and children and our country, who depend on food assistance, you are not going to be eating. The guest goes on and on in terms of what government does. So, again, this is nothing new to them, however right now, with all of that is going on, all of the challenges that our country faces, it is particularly irresponsible. Its like a, game you have been through many of these before, as he said under republican leadership. All under republican speakers. Theres five days left. Do you think theres a scenario where Speaker Mccarthy can avoid shutdown . I hope so. Of all the bad things that are out there, and what they say in, do a shutdown is a very bad thing for the country. They made an agreement when we had the discussion with the president , they had an agreement about lifting the debt ceiling, they came to terms on a budget number. That was an agreement. Now they are walking away from the agreement, so not only is it a bad idea, in terms of our country, its a bad idea about not keeping it there is a chance that the senate could get a continuing resolution that would keep the government funded in the short term. Everybody is looking for solutions. Here is that something that could potentially avoid a shutdown in the house . What do you think of that option . I have not seen, it its just. New it is indicative of the old slogan that we always use in the house. Not a nine senators are not enough. They have had bipartisan agreement it appeared, and the senate about doing their own continuing resolution and sending it over. It has its parliamentary challenges, but nonetheless, and now they said because object, they cant do. That one 99 senators are not. Enough one senator holding up over 500 appointments, commission come oceans and the rest, in the military. Its just not. Right anyway, to take it back to this, it depends on what it is. We are not just there to vote for anything and the democratic side. We will see where we can find our common ground. We have a responsibility to try to do that. , our leader, and we take our lead from him. Another option is a district politician, or a handful of republicans, not that many could join with democrats, its not something that is under discussion to avoid . This a Discharge Petition as an option, however an order for it to even be considered, you have to have to have a 30day period or address, there and a 30 days it would be shut down. Its a longer term saying, it wont work unless we have something to keep government open. Its past the end of the fiscal, year which is september 30th. Lee of or ovens happening this week is the House Oversight committee holding its first hearing on the biden impeachment, which they have not outlined our purpose for. Its clear what theyre trying to do, here at least to me. Theyre trying to muddy the, waters make President Biden seem corrupt. How do democrats avoid that . Or pushback on that, or prevent it from being an. Issue the factors they had no goods. They have been for months and months and months trying to make some kind of a charge. I dont think they will ever bring it to the floor. They wont have the votes. The remembers and districts that President Biden won, not that there are so far President Biden, but these voters will say thats just not the right way to go. Everybody was on my case in 2007 when we got to the majority, and they wanted us to impeach President Bush for the war in a, rock the misrepresentations going, in departing from afghanistan too soon, all of that. If you have a difference of opinion, you just cant be impeaching impeaching, on the other hand, this is a fake distraction as you said. They dont even have the courage to bring it to the floor, i dont think the speaker has to worry about that. I mean youve been the speaker, before looking at all of the events of this, week what do you think the History Books will say about Kevin Mccarthys role as speaker . It remains to be. Seen he has not had even a full year, much less a full term. I do think its important for people to know what to the position. Is it is the only legislative position mentioned in the constitution of the United States, and by the way its second in line to president. So its number two, so its a highly responsible position, and it also has power. If you decide to use it for the public good, Building Consensus within the congress, to take to go for, for sustainability. Thats why i keep saying, one thing he could do is to take back the Republican Party. The great party, its done great things for our country. Great leadership overtime. Dont let it be turned into a cult, into a thug in my view. This is what is happening. This man is telling them, unless you get everything, nobody gets everything, unless you get everything, shut government down. That should be a Testimony Itself to the speakership of anybody to be taking guidance like that from the outside. Several House Democrats along with new jerseys governor of all called on Senator Menendez to resign. Do you think he should resign . I respect their position they are taking. The charges are formidable. If in fact we are going to say that if youre indicted, you should resign, we have a situation in the house. As you know from the state of new york, that that would hold to. Right, now sadly because of the challenges that we face, because the skepticism that exists in our country about governance, about this Republican Party that does not believe in governance, doesnt believe in science, so they want to take down everything in order to give tax breaks to the wealthiest, weve got to stay focused on that, and for that reason it probably would be a good idea if he did not resign. Do you, this weekend on his failed social media site, donald trump used about the execution of this was flush quite shocking to. Me what was your reaction to that . My reaction is not so much to him, but to the speaker who support him. I respect the differences of opinion that exist in our society, from the beginning of our country. Thats what a democracy is about. People have different, views they debates, them you put it before the, public they make a decision, you go forward. But if you engage in language like, that it should be something that would discredit, would eliminates somebody as a prospect for any public office. Was very courageous, in the military on the battlefield, and in the public arena in the white house. Im saddened to hear that former president would say that just another argument, why he should have never been in the white house, and should never be there again. Twice impeached, once defeated, how many times indicted . Speaker pelosi, thank you for your service, for always speaking out and telling the truth to everyone. It was such a pleasure to have you here this evening. With us its my pleasure to be here congratulations. Again that donald trump can commit a filet today and hes coming up next. Plus Rachel Maddow joins me to with her committee, start witness Cassidy Hutchinson. Later, all the the religious idea that trump is a champion for both unions and bluecollar workers. Were just Getting Started this hour, so stay with. Us. 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Courts that order comes as we await a decision from the judge presiding over the federal Election Interference case, judge tanya chutkan, on whether or not she will grant special counsel jack smiths request for a limiting gag order against donald trump. That could come tonight anytime. Lets be clear about why we are seeing these orders and requests. Donald trump has been furiously attacking everyone involved in the case against, him and even some shacks with filed that order, hes been attacking. Them he and his allies have as Election Interference, he has repeatedly called jack smith drenched and a thug. His basically highly partisan, as well as very biased and unfair. And a few days, ago he suggested that his former top military adviser, general mark milley, who have spoken with prosecutors, should be executed for treasonous acts. Lets just pause there for. Moments his former military advisor, the chairman of the joint troops, he was suggesting that he should be executed for treason, many of these make them public, stripped threats of violence have spiked, theres a connection, the top prosecutors in the four criminal cases against donald trump now require round the clock protection. A texas woman was arrested just last month for threatening to kill judge chutkan if trump is not reelected, and the purported identities of the grand jury members have circulated on pro trump message boards. Its not hard to see the Cause And Effect here. Stoking anger has often been a key part of donald trump strategy. We now know, very well what the consequences are. Joining me now is my friend legal, eagle on official, counsel andrew weissmann. Hes also General Counsel at the fbi, and former senior members Robert Muellers investigation. The judge in Fulton County order today that no identifying information of jurors and prospective jurors should be disclosed. That seems fairly obvious considering the threats. Here how uncommon, or common is that . In our file, case it is fairly. Common it does not really need to be triggered by the defendant himself, or herself, youre gonna be concerned about, interference about press interference, but anybody contacting jurors, here is others an additional reason for exactly, what you said. Your concerns about remarkably, the former leader of the free world, is this a step that was taken by judge kaplan in the e. Jean carroll assaults, sexual salt and rape case . Im so its fairly common, one thing that im still concerned about is that although he ordered the, judge that this be sort of an ominous, and we would not find out the, identities it does not mean that the defendant donald trump, and his counsel, no until you still steaming that donald trump will obey the law. That, as we know from fort indictments, its not a questionable assumption. What happens if he releases their . Names thats a crazy question to ask, but are the even consequences be to look into the system . For anyone else yes. But i think theres probably just a natural reluctance here, to jail somebody pending trial. Or Paul Manafort for instance, when he coached to witnesses to lie, he was put in jail by a d. C. Judge. It is the norm, sam bakeman frayed, in the Southern District of new york for financial crimes. Much less serious crimes in terms of the importance of democracy, its in jail pending his trial. So, were also waiting for trump, to respond to the special counsels gag order request. Its supposed to come, tonight well see. Talk about the stakes of this back and forth, given trumps behavior, because as a non, lawyer im sitting here watch make these threats about chairman, and thinking about how this is not a big factor, is it a big . Factor lets just remember that, the context, wherein there is a motion before one of four judges, who have the criminal cases of donald trump. There is a motion pending by the government say, to something judge, youve got to restrict him some ways. What he is saying about witnesses, and drawers, and georges, and their families. You have to do something. While that motion is pending, as you said were waiting for the defense brief tonight. He has done a number of, things he has made the statements about the former chair of the joint chiefs of staff, again its unfathomable that we are sitting here having that conversation. He has been on air today, about possessing a firearm. You and i were on air together when in the d. C. , case he said the most important thing is, when you are out on, bail do not commit another crime. It is a crime for somebody who is charged with the felony, charged with a felony to receive a gun. There are pictures on twitter of him holding the gun. The city need a receipt . We dont even know, his campaign has come out and said he did not purchase, it lets not the law, its not that you cant buy, gotten the law is that you cannot, 9 22 and. Its that you cannot receive a gun, that has traveled in interstate commerce. That means its traveled across state lines, and a glock has trifled against a, lines but theyre not made in south carolina. Even not, purchasing it he couldve violated, that happens a lot, there are other parts of the statute that apply to people who are convicted, and they cannot presents a gun. The issue here is not that he would be charged with that separate, offense its that while this motion is pending, what judge chutkan will have in front of her is not just the statements, but somebody who has flagrantly boasted about doing something. To me, he is really daring the court to do something. Its like a, child except its much more serious, because its somebody whos out on bail on 91 felony counts. So while we wait for, thats because the next step we get trumps team, their response to the protective, order and jack smiths team can respond, and then were waiting for the judge. So were waiting for, the judge thats the most important part here, is that a yes or nos to the protective order . Does she potentially lay out what the consequences are . What are we expecting or waiting for . So, the briefed from the government, the reply brief is due on the 30th of september, and then a judge can rule at any point. The most neutral county and think that she could, do it she could put him in jail. I do not expect that she will do that. She could do for instance what a b Berman Jackson did with roger stone, which was that she brought a man, she had a, hearing and at the end of this she had all these prohibitions of what he could do in social media, and what he could say. There would be nothing wrong with saying to somebody who is out on bail, do you not mention witnesses, do not mention judges, jurors, prosecutors in their, families because i know the sounds, ridiculous but you can run for president , without harassing and threatening witnesses, and jurors, androgynous. Yes you dont get to live by differences of rules. I think its fair to say. Andrew, eisman it is always a pleasure, thank you so much for joining me here on set in washington. I really appreciate it. Coming, up we are counting down to the first live interview with what Rachel Maddow joins me with a preview of her conversation with Cassidy Hutchinson. Thats coming up next. On your period, sudden gushes happen. Say goodbye gush fears thanks to always ultra thins. With rapiddry technology. That absorbs two times faster. Hellooo clean and comfortable. Always. Fear no gush. Subject 1 whos that . Whos that . Cole this is my fluffy. Charlie cancer. 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The passage i cannot thinking about is romneys recollection of a conversation he had around that time, with mitch mcconnell. Youre lucky, mcconnell told, him you can see the things that we all think. Youre in a position to say things about him that we all agree, with but cant say. Of course what mcconnell said cant, say what he really meant was, wont say. They wont speak out because of the backlash. They wont speak out because of the attacks on social media. They will speak out because god forbid it could get primaried. The worst. Things romney said he started to feel to so many comments like the one he heard from mcconnell, that he developed kind of got a response. There are worse things than losing elections. Take it from somebody who knows. Those republicans that mitt romney is talking about, the ones who refused to say the things that need to be, said they could learn a thing or two from 27 year old Cassidy Hutchinson. The former, who provided some of the most revealing and damning testimony to the house january six committee. I was in the vicinity of a car i dont think they have, weapons theyre not here to hurt me to take the mags away. But my people ended in the march of capital. Here he said something to the effect of please make sure we do not go up to the capitol cassidy, keep in touch with me, were going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. Its not like that testimony did not commit a steep personal cost. Cat city hutchinson. It was important for the American People to hear. Cassidy hutchinson is telling her story heres how she to testify before the january 6th committee. Quote, i cannot, shake the feeling that are violating a code. I pride myself on my discretion in trustworthiness as much as my orthodontic. Im troubled by the feeling that im about to betray friends and former colleagues because a higher loyalty to the contrary demands. Its a higher. Loyalty to some, people there are worst things than career setbacks, there are worse things than losing, elections there are worse things than being the subject of mean, tweets unfortunately inside the modernday Republican People like that are very joining me now as my friend and colleague shes going to interview in what would be cassidys first life interview since she testified before the house january 6th committee. Rachel, im so sick cited to watch this, interview and im so excited, im going to put my feet up, take my heels off, why do you think its important that Cassidy Hutchinson is speaking out now . First, of all let me say thank you for saying that you are looking forward to, it and that you are so looking forward to. I am not looking forward to, it i need the next 23 minutes to continue to prepare, you know may well enough that im always pointing at the very last second so, like i have an event on the harris birthday. I am not ready. I need more moments. Listen, Cassidy Hutchinson decided across the rubicon when she decided that she needed to live with herself. When she decided that she could continue to protect the president s, she had a lawyer who was and who was being paid for she didnt know how, but it wasnt her, and she did not have money to pay for a lawyer for own choosing who did not have the same perceived conflicts. She realized that she could do that, but she wanted to pass what she calls the mirror, test being able to lock herself in the eye for the rest of her life. As a very young woman confronting that dilemma, she knew that shes likely looking at a very long life ahead, in what shes going to have to live with decisions that shes making by the age of 25. She crossed that rubicon, and now i think she wants people to understand how she did, it and why she didnt. Alaska route, this but i cant help but think that she is also telling the story to let other people know that they can be brave to. You dont need to be in a safe, states in utah, with mitt romney. You dont need to be protected by A Billion Dollars in personal assets like mitt romney. His in, fact she was completely broke at the time that she was giving that testimony. She had not paid her rented months on the day that she sat there and that. Room she had no family assets, working class kid, she did not have any question at all that she did the writing. I think she wants america to about two so other people maybe consider i hope people listen and kind of walk across that bridge. One part of her, i wonder what rachel thinks of this. Now i have, you before i let you go to do your last preparing, she writes about how Alexander Battlefield is an inspiration to. Her 41 who does not, Know Butterfield is a former nixon aide who testified at the Watergate Hearings in the white house. Pretty you are a student, a podcaster, a broadcaster of historical parallels. What did you make of that comparison . It was interesting to me that shes so self aware about the fact that she needed her own storyteller, she needed her own role model, and she needed to believe find out if someone else in the world who had Something Like an equivalent job to hers. She had confronted can a moral and practical quandary. In, fact i look senior battlefields who told the world that the Nixon White House had a taping system, minutes he came forward with that shocking revelation at the water gate hearings, she had the same in the white house. Basically being the white house Chief Of Staff, Chief Of Staff its a very important but low profile job, you have to be trusted, you have to be loyal, to have that kind of a job. Its not someone who ever wants to be in the spotlight who has a job like that, but who nevertheless are despite all those loyalties, felt the sit patriotic narrative to the right, thing in his story, she found basically a Spine Stiffening detail about the american patriotism. Alexander battlefield became a real life model to her and thats part of what ill talk to her about tonight as well. Rachel maddow, its almost thank you so much for joining. We cannot wait to watch. Well let you go prepare. Thank you, jim much appreciated. Up next well head to michigan this week to talk to striking members of the auto workers union. Ive got a story for you after the break about trumps broken promises to the people hes going to try and calling one more time. Were back after a quick break. Back after a quick break that breaks your hea rt. Like ravette. Every step, brought her pain. Their only hope mercy ships. The largest floating civilian hospital in the world. Bringing free surgeries to people who have no other hope. 19 a month will help provide urgently needed surgery for so many still suffering. So dont wait, call the number on your screen. Or donate at mercyships. Org. As americans, theres one thing we can all agree on. 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Not to be forgotten, President Biden is going to michigan, tomorrow trump will try to overshadow, that Republican Debate is also on wednesday, trump is also going to try to overshadow that. Lets face, its a lot of people will buy what hes selling because he will put on a show, the thing, is realities he is not reality, anything to convince these Men And Women in michigan, and in pennsylvania, and ohio that he is fighting for their interest. . Back in 20, 16 remember he convinced a whole lot of those workers that he alone, trump alone was the person that could bring Manufacturing Jobs back to forgotten pockets of the country. I am going to pay the greatest jobs president that god ever created. Remember that. I will bring back jobs. You cannot bring back jobs. Im going to bring back our jobs, to ohio. And pennsylvania, and new york, and michigan, and all of america. It will be a victory for jobs, jobs, jobs. We are going to bring our companies back. If i am, elected you wont lose one plant, you have plans coming into this, country youll have jobs again, it was that message you just heard that helped trump and cross the midwest, entering the 2016 election. Remember, he won michigan by just over 10,000 votes, was caught by roughly 20,000, and pennsylvania by about 30, thousand in each of those crucible, he outperformed her was white voters without, by a margin of 2 to 1. It is empty promises to this group of voters helped propel him to the white house. In this, moments ahead of what well see this week, i thought that the story of One Jim Plant in Lordstown Ohio might be kind of useful. This plant was one sprawling, both in size, spending more than 100 football, fields and its impact on the community. For over half a century, the gm plant produced millions of vehicles, employees thousands of people in the, community and served as the Beating Heart of the town. In 2017, still wearing the trump spoke just 15 miles down the road from that sprawling gm plans. A group in youngstown. In a part of that barack obama won by 20 points, and trump phipps flipped in 2016. But he spoke to them, he promised that Manufacturing Jobs were coming back. Ill tell you what, i rode through your beautiful roads coming up from the airport, and i was looking at some of those big wants an incredible job producing factories, and my wife ali maloney a, what happened . I said those jobs of left ohio. Theyre all coming back. Theyre all coming back. Dont move, dont sell your house, dont sell your house. Dont, move to inside your house, he told people to stay put. He told them he had their backs. Those people listened to him, they trusted him, but by 2019, that shut down. Thousands of jobs were lost, and an entire community was shattered. A local Restaurant Owner said he hosted more than 100 going away parties by his how about the, plant watching lifelong friends gather for l round of drinks, a final. Photo of others whose husband was called the closure traumatizing. A husband and father who was transferred for away hours away from his said i miss sleeping in my bed. Hold in my, wife holding my, kids hugging my family. What did donald trump do next . Did he work on an economic package to rebuild the community . Nope. Most of his bodies would have her the community. He proposed funding for a number of communities that wouldve helped people and lordstown. Did he show an ounce of empathy or remorse . Now. What followed was simply the usual trump police scapegoating. He attacked saying quote, ohio was not properly he attacked the ceo running very disappointing and for closing. Plants he attacked Lordstown Local Uaw president saying, quote he ought to get his act together and produce. So first came the empty promises, and then came the empty excuses. The trump did not actually do anything to save the jobs he would save. To be the champion of these communities, he promised he would be, he did not do anything to help that community. The uaw director of that, planted the same guy that donald trump attacked but in 2019 when the shutdown felt compelled to speak out ahead of trumps trip to michigan coming up this week. He said, Quote The Guy came to my community and flat out lied to everybody. Thanks for closing, schools were shutting, down i wrote to the guy to letters, and he did not even reply. That sure sounds a lot like a warning to the people trump will try to sell his busted Vacuum Cleaners to this time around. He will tell you anything you want to hear to get you to vote for him. Maybe four years, later and yes he may have but he was a charlatan, then and hes a charlatan now. 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Welcome, back President Biden on tuesday, donald trump on, wednesday its a big week for the and joining me now is Michigan State so, mallory we all know you because you came on the scene kind of calling out people who are spreading disinformation. I want to know what we are going to as we look towards donald trump is going to do in michigan this, we can try to present himself as the candidate for workers, how do we combat that . We have to call it out as a straightup ally. Donald trump is coming to michigan to go to a nonunion supplier. What is going to do is blame the ev transition. This is absolutely ridiculous, hes putting workers against workers. Ive got to tell, you chinese automakers are Sour Bloviating at the opportunity that america is going to flinch on evs, so they can come in and dominate the market, and if hes successful, he destroys the American Auto industry. Youre there on the ground in michigan, he stopped by the picket line, tell us about what youve been seeing and hearing on the ground. Number, one workers are frustrated. They see that ceo pay has skyrocketed. They see some of the ceo is making 20, eight close to 30 million a year. These are workers who might be starting at 15 an hour. They made a ton of concessions during the recession, they want their fair share. They want a 40 raise. There is some concern about evs, but more than anything, we want assurances that this will be our jobs, and donald trump has already said blatantly that if he is president ,s jobs are going to china. , yes and hes been pretty clear about. That President Biden is of course joining the picket line tomorrow, not a common thing for the president to do. Michigan congresswoman Debbie Dingell said President Biden should not intervene in the negotiations. What do you think . Well, first of all, this is historic. This will be the first sitting president in United States history to actually come to a picket line. I think Anybody Running for president should come to the ground and listen to workers. Not go to a nonunion supplier and try to pick people against people for their own gain. Come on, listen listen to, people shake their, hand show up, bring some coffee and donuts. That is how you show solidarity. Should he negotiate with, them or she should stay out of . It he should listen to them. The president should not come here to negotiate with workers on the picket. Line ive got to tell, you visiting the picket, line and hearing people stories, i talked to one worker who is a Third Generation uaw worker whose grandfather participated in the sitdown strikes. Hes now working across his son, thats sitting at the, white house sitting in our offices. Showing up in listening, its something thats incredibly powerful, and only one candidate does. Well the uaw has not endorsed President Biden. Yet what do they think they need to hear to take that step . They need to see him show up. This week is going to be a great step towards that cutting done. Mallory mcmorrow, to gingers is better than one ginger as i like to say. Its always better seeing. It thank you for joining me tonight. Not this up for me tonight, a reminder that you can watch the show on sundays at 12 pm, eastern well be back here next monday night at eight, but stay right where you are because the Rachel Maddow show starts right now. Hey rachel. Age, and congratulations on your first night with this new primetime guy. How do you think you did . I think you did great. I am and i was a little nervous but mostly just excited to be your warm up act and my sister told me as long as i didnt mess up the handover to you i am still invited to thanksgiving. So here we are. A it is impossible to mess up but b as i told you earlier in case there is ever any