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Getting around, walking to your tent in the mud is impossible. And from the roads to the skies, how millions of americans are dealing with the Holiday Travel crush after whats expected to be another record breaking weekend. Plus, making their case. Several gop candidates are on the trail in New Hampshire today taking advantage of this extra time to get in front of voters. As Donald Trumps lead in the poll widens, will any of them be successful at peeling off the former president s supporters . Well, there is hope that today could finally be safe for 70,000 people to leave the Nevada Desert where they have been stranded for days after torrential rain turned the campground of the decades old burning man festival into a vat of mud. Festival Officials Say the water is drying out, so its a waiting game for the roads to become passable as attendees ration supplies. The pictures are unbelievable. Look at your screen. A portapotty caked in thick mud. Local authorities are investigating one death but the Sheriffs Office says it doesnt appear to be related to the weather. Some have already made it out, trejing 5 or 6 miles to the town or ride. That journey is a mix because the mud acts like quick sand, and in the Black Rock Desert, its alkaline, meaning too much exposure could cause chemical burns. Nbcs Maura Barrett joins us on this. Do the people stranded have the supplies they need . Reporter well, lindsay it has become such a hectic situation looking at how one might typically want to spend their Holiday Weekend. This is not what they planned. The area got two months worth of rain in just two days, if that helps paint a picture of how inundated with water they have been experiencing, but people who attend burning man, they call themselves burners say its an event of radical selfreliance. That has been exemplified over the past weekend. A few people that spoke to our team on the ground about how theyre manging everything. I honestly think this is the best burn ever. Seriously, this has given us the opportunity to rise to radical selfreliance and to support each other and the community, and im having the best time. We got into the middle of the desert with no one around and got stuck there for like 12 hours. We like slept there, and finally, we were about to hitchhike, we were going to try it One More Time and got ourselves out. All eight lanes have to merge into one. Its a really slow process. Its still a great event. I love it, and im definitely going back next year. Reporter so a lot of surprising optimism youre hearing there, and thats what team on the ground says theyre seeing repeatedly as people are starting to walk their way out, make that exit, as Officials Say that those roads will really start to dry up to a point that more and more people can try to leave this afternoon starting around 3 00 p. M. Eastern time. Maura, stay with us, we know the Black Rock Desert saw more rain last night, and we do have nbc meteorologist Michelle Grossman to break town whats in the forecast moving forward. Michelle, what can we expect . Great to see you. The good news is we continue to dry out and will continue to dry out as we got to the next five days. That may not sound like a lot. That was two days worth of rain in 24 hours, 36 hours, and the problem is its a desert. Any rain that falls becomes runoff. The soil can absorb it. Theres no vegetation, and thats why we saw all the muddy conditions, and continue to see the muddy conditions. As we go throughout time here, you notice the green off to the east. Thats because were seeing the rain move to the east, and well continue to do that. Locally heavy rain in the great basin, and northern plains. For the burn, mostly clear skies, looking really good. Temperatures in the low 60s. Thats probably the biggest problem. Hopefully people still peel for their generators. It rebounds quickly during the day. It was chilly last night with temperatures in the 40s. Well see that once again tonight. As we look throughout time, the next five to six days, lots of sunshine. A small chance for showers in the morning on tuesday. Otherwise lots of sunshine and warm conditions. Lindsay. Michelle, thank you so much. Once the people get the clear to leave, how will it work . There are just limited usable roads and Tens Of Thousands of people trying to get out. Lindsay, even in a normal year when theres prime conditions, you have to remember this is a rural community, about 100 miles away from reno. In some years because you have dozens of thousands of people trying to leave at the same time, it can take up to 12 hours, im told, even if a normal year. I think the keyword is going to be patience and officials have also recommended that people stagger over the next couple of days, if they have flexibility. So their plan is to make sure everyone is not trying to leave at once. It is important to note, this is a festival about ritual and art, the ceo pointed out in an interview with nbc news today and because of the bad weather the past few days, they havent been able to safely set off the name sake of the event, the burning man. As long as the weather looks clear enough tonight, it could be happening today. Should be incentive for people to stay behind and stagger the exodus throughout the next several days, which will hopefully alleviate the endless traffic theyre probably going to see. You can see people struggling to get their feet up out of the mud as theyre walking. Thank you so much for that update. Labor day travelers are hitting the road as summer comes to a close. The major surge were seeing nationally and globally. Were back in 60 seconds. Astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other Allergy Sprays take hours. 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Joining me now, nbc news Correspondent Kathy Park in tennessee. Matt bradley in london, and nbc news meteorologist Michelle Grossman back with us. Kathy, what have we seen from travelers, hoping to take advantage of the last weeks of summer . Reporter good afternoon to you, we have been plants here along Interstate 40 in east tennessee. We are right next door to the great smokey mountains, which is the number one visited National Park in the country. Also dollywood just a few minutes away as well. So you have a lot of visitors trying to get out. They all have the same idea, so you can probably see behind me. Basically the gridlock here, and right here in the foreground, this is a traffic actually trying to get out of the largest gas station in the world. You might have heard of it, buckys. So we are told from some of the drivers here, its taking roughly an hour just to get out of the gas station, and then once they get out, theyre dealing with the inner State Traffic as well. So this is a scene thats really playing out all across the country. Roughly 100 million americans are getting behind the wheel. They drove to their holiday destinations, and many of them, millions are headed home today or even tomorrow, and earlier this morning, we had a chance to speak with several people, visiting from all across the country, and heres how they plan on tackling the day. Take a listen. We got kind of delayed coming here. There was a couple of bad wrecks, saw a car on fire, so it was a rough trip coming in. Are you mentally preparing yourself for whats to come the next couple of hours on the road . I know it might be a little hectic, traffic jams with everybody traveling today. Were prepared. We got the music ready, filling up with food. Well be good. Reporter and lindsay, if youre trying to avoid all of this, the best time to leave was actually early this morning, so if you are planning out now, pack your patience, youll be sitting in quite a lot of traffic. The best time, if you have some wiggle room is around 7 00 or later on this evening. So keep that in mind. Also, aaa suggests, check your car if youre driving. Youre going to be spending a lot of hours behind the wheel. Make sure the Tire Pressure is in check, the battery is okay. This weekend, Holiday Weekend alone, theyre estimating rescuing 300,000 stranded motorists. Oh, wow. You got your music, your podcast, your snacks, and youre in it for the long haul. What can you tell us about people catching the Travel Bug Overseas . Reporter where you and katie and the rest of you are, its 4 bookings. The rest of the world, 44 increase. That goes to show americans are out in force. London is one of the most popular destinations according to aaa, alongside rome, paris, dublin and vancouver. Were seeing lot of americans come to buckingham palace. This is one of the most popular destinations for americans visiting london. I spoke with one of them about why she was here, and heres what she told me. Its cheaper than traveling within the united states. Reporter no. How so . I mean, eating out is cheaper, and you can visit more countries within, you know, One Travel Versus in the states. It just takes longer to get to one thing. Reporter yeah, so, lindsay, shes right. Its easy to travel in london, closer to europe, when she says it was cheaper, i dont know, i have been living here for seven years, and my bank balance wouldnt agree. If she lived here a little longer and tried to go out, tried to actually live here, shed see its a very very expensive city. I love it see Americans Travel Ing abroad and come to london. Maybe she lives in new york city, and shes used to the 20 or 30 entree. Who knows. Michelle, is the weather cooperate something. Its looking really good. Not looking at huge major storms. Were relatively quiet. That doesnt mean were completely quiet because we are watching the chance for some storms, thunderstorms falling right now. One of the places into the inner Mountain West, great basin, Central Plains as well, down to the south, looking along the gulf coast and Lower Mississippi valley, the chance for storms. You can see some lightning as i show you radar in just a bit. Dealing with record hit. Thats a big story in labor day. Its not officially over. Still, you want to turn that page to fall or at least the fall feel, and its really warm outside. Were looking at temperatures in the 90s, 100s, so many spots from the great lakes, and take a look at airport delays, looking very good. Very rare on holiday, every major hub. It updates automatically, in the green, good news, new york city, miami, seattle looking good. We did have a delay at San Francisco about an hour ago. Looking better now. Then the roadways, seeing some showers and thunderstorms as i mentioned along i10, and inner Mountain West dealing with heavy rain. Thats going to be a threat as we head throughout this afternoon into the evening hours. Where you see the yellow on this map, thats the biggest chance for strong to severe storms. Winds up to 60 miles per hour. That could bring down trees, power lines causing some damage. Some power outages, and also some hail. Its going to be an inch or larger, a low threat for tornadoes, but its not zero, and heavy rainfall. We have the threat for excessive rainfall that could lead to street and urban flooding. That will head to the east tomorrow, minneapolis, portions of the west, portions of Severe Weather tomorrow. And talking about heat alerts, we are looking at 12 million under heat alerts in september, labor day, thats in the midwest, the great lakes also the northeast, where you see the orange, that is a heat alert. The heat extends past those alerts, temperatures into the 90s. Climbing into the 100s, its going to feel like over 100 once you factor in the humidity. Some of these numbers, 101 in dodge city, 97 in indianapolis. 92 in green bay, really warm in the northeast. 92 in williamsport, pennsylvania. When you factor in the humidity its going to feel warmer than that. I know so many of us getting back to reality, to school, to work, were looking at temperatures soaring into the 90s, close to 100 degrees for so many people. 96 in philadelphia. The record is 95, 90s in madison, grand rapids, richmond, you get the idea. Its going to be another hot one tomorrow. Its going to be hot as we go throughout wednesday and thursday. Things begin to improve just a bit. As we head for the rest of the week, were looking at drying out conditions in portions of the inner Mountain West. The storm system is the same one that brought the rain yesterday, and burning man brought two months worth of rain in about 36 hours. Were looking at well above average temperatures, the no northeast to mid atlantic. Lots of rain in the midwest, great lakes down to the tennessee valley. You can see the green on the map. Thats the cold front moving through bringing all the rain. We could see strong to severe storms as well on wednesday. As we round up the week, showers in the mid atlantic. That storm system is going to make it across the country. Its not a huge storm but could bring problems to end out the workweek from new england to the northeast, mid atlantic, also to the southeast. September steam does not go away in the South Central states. We have been warm so long. Month after month, the whole summer long, breaking records, were going to continue to do that. Sunny and seasonal, were looking at the tropic, a system in the atlantic that could become our next named storm in the next couple of days. Well keep you posted on that too appreciate that. Kathy park, matt bradley, and Michelle Grossman, thanks to all you. This labor day is a critical test for republican president ial contenders, several candidates prepared to take the stage in New Hampshire just moments from now. Were live at this event next. Trying vapes to quit smoking might feel like progress, but with 3x more nicotine than a pack of cigarettes vapes Increase Cravings trapping you in an endless craving loop. Nicorette reduces cravings until theyre gone for good. ella fashion moves fast. Setting trends is our business. We need to scale with customer demand. 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Youll seal Vivek Ramaswamy, mike pence, will hurd, making stops, trying to gain ground on their top competition, former President Donald Trump as his lead in the National Polls widens. I want to bring in nbcs dasha burns on the ground for us in New Hampshire. Political White House Correspondent and msnbc political contributor, eugene danielings, and also with us republican strategist, and msnbc political analyst, susan del percio. What can we expect to see at this event . Reporter we just wrapped up a Labor Day Parade here in milford, New Hampshire, where Vivek Ramaswamy made an appearance, shook a lot of hands here. Youve got some folks trickling back up, having marched in the parade. As much as these events are about the barbecues, about celebrating veterans here, and others are also about the politics of course, and the voters that i have been talking to, they really care about the fact that people are on the ground. And thats one challenge that trump might have while in that parade we did see a big contingent of Trump Supporters, and of course he is way ahead in the polls. Some of the voters i have been talking to say they kind of miss him on the ground. They want to see him. They want to shake his hand. They want to do the same thing theyre doing with all of these other candidates because while they are interested, a lot of them, in the former president , theyre also looking and kicking the tires of everybody else, the people in these early states like New Hampshire, like iowa, like South Carolina. They take their job as sort of narrowing that field very very seriously. And so they want to really be able to scrutinize everybody, and a lot of folks i have been talking to are open minded. I want you to take a listen to some of the voters here in New Hampshire, and it gives you a sense of kind of where folks are at. Theres the trump contention, and the folks that are shopping around. Take a listen. More towards trump, just because he knows where all the bodies are buried, right, hes been there, done that. So, and he knows these personalities already. Those are huge advantages. I simply hope that we can make it to the next election given the circumstances we find ourselves in. Donald trump the last two elections but i just feel that hes too overpowering now, and i dont have a lot of confidence in him, especially with whats happened with him, all of the indictments if hes even going to make it to that point. Theres so much against him. Reporter we did also run into New Hampshire governor sununu who has been talking about the fact that he believes that most voters dont want, and the polls do show this, most voters dont want a trumpbiden rematch, and he is planning to endorse somebody. He did not say who, and he did not say when, but he really thinks its states like New Hampshire that are going to create the conditions where there might actually be the possibility of a real trump alternative because the field really does have to narrow. It has to consolidate behind one or two, most likely just one person if theyre going to have any sort of chance of climbing the big hill the former president has created here. Thanks to you and your crew on the ground in New Hampshire. Were near the end of this rare threeday weekend. What opportunity does this opportunity give most candidates on the trail today . It gives them what they have been wanting, much more oxygen. They want to go see people. Dasha was showing the people in the parades. People are out and about because they dont have to work. It gives them more access to some of the folks they might not get access to. Otherwise, i will also say, donald trump hasnt been out on the streets in a very long time. They have had that time to meet people and introduce themselves. And the polls have not shown any huge change. We saw that debate, and we all were breathless about who may have won, who may have lost the debate. What we saw was donald trump continues to dominate this field. But the concern that some folks have on the republican side who do want trump is that hes not going to be out there as much in iowa and New Hampshire, and those people miss him, now do they miss him, go somewhere else, that causes a little bit of danger for the former president despite the fact that in every single poll that we have seen, he is beating everybody in this field by crazy numbers. Lets bring up some of that polling. Susan, the latest Wall Street Journal polling shows these candidates still will need to peel off a majority of Trump Supporters to win the nomination. Former President Trump still being the top choice for nearly 60 of republican primary voters. Can any other candidates make ground in this type of Retail Politicking . On those national numbers, it doesnt look like thats the case. Trump would have to decide not to run. However, its about the early states. New hampshire is one of those early states. First of all, they like to be courted, so even if the candidates dont shake someones hand, they know the people know they were there through their local media. That matters. The other important thing, and why Chris Christie is coming up number two or number three in some polls in New Hampshire is the largest Voter Population is not democrat or republican, its independents in New Hampshire, and independents can vote in the democrat or republican primary. Theres not much action on the democratic side, so were going to see a huge influx of independent voters voting in the republican primary. Thats where a difference can be made, and if someone can beat trump in iowa or New Hampshire, that shows a crack in the armor. Eugene, gop candidate Vivek Ramaswamy says hes not interested in running for the role of trumps Vice President right now. Lets listen. Im not looking for a number two position. I think that its just the way you can make contributions to this country. Thats the way donald trump and i probably share something in common, neither of us do well in the number two position. I do expect him to be my adviser, and i would say probably in my first year, probably my most important mentor in the white house. I dont want to read behind the wheel. I want to understand where the bodies are buried to get that head start. The way im going to reunite this country and reach the next generation is by doing it from the presidency. Eugene, what do you make of his strategy . You cant go out there running for that job and say actually, i would take Vice President , right . Its something all of them have to say. And almost every Single Person who has been asked to serve as Vice President has said yes. Its not like theyre going to say no if that opportunity presents itself. I will say one of the things thats interesting about Vivek Ramaswamy is hes really good in front of people. We had him at the political officers. Hes a very good talker. When you start to drill down deeper into the substance of the policy, we saw this on the debate stage, the political offices, thats where he seems to struggle. That is where he talks about how the next president , himself, needs to take a huge majority, like needs to win nearly every state to make it a big point that america is united. Thats not how politics works anymore. I covered andrew yang in 2020. He seemed to be having fun on the campaign. Now, you see how happy he is. You saw how happy he was on the debate, despite the fact that everyone was kind of upset the whole time. That is something that draws people in. Its his personality thats driving a lot of this, and thats the message hes leading with at this point. Whether or not it works, its hard to say, right . This is a country that, you know, they have their own trump person. Trump is the person. If you want to run as kind of a trump jr. Or trump iii, then you have to do something different, and people are not going to not vote for trump because vivek says hes going to do the same thing donald trump says hes going to do. We have had analysts such as yourself on saying the Republican Party is the cult of personality it now. Is that personality something that could benefit him, and also saying he would have the former president on as an adviser, does that reel in supporters . Ramaswamy is a blip on the screen. My guess is he will be off the charts, back polling in Single Digits or 1 or 2 after the next debate. The interesting thing about ramaswamy is when you looked at that debate stage, hes the only person who isnt a current or former u. S. Senator or governor. I think thats a little bit of where his appeal comes from and that comparison to donald trump. He is an outsider, but basically he runs a mile wide and an inch deep. Theres nothing there. Thank you for that perspective. Susan del percio. Eugene, youre going to stay with me. Investigators are looking into a connection with a missing woman in South Carolina and the Gilgo Beach Murders. Why authorities think they could be linked. Next. S think they could be linked. Next you didnt live this strong, this long to get put on the shelf like a porcelain doll. If you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and are at high risk for fracture, you can build new bone with evenity®. Ask your doctor if you can do more than just slowing down bone loss with evenity®. Want stronger bones . Then build new bone; evenity® can help in just 12 months. Evenity® is proven to reduce Spine Fracture Risk by 73 . Evenity® can increase risk of heart attack, stroke, or death from a cardiovascular problem. 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Order in the subway app today. Turning now to an update potentially expanding the scope of the Gilgo Beach Murders. Investigators in South Carolina yesterday announced theyre now looking at Rex Heuermann in connection with the 2017 disappearance of julie ann bean. He was charged in the killings of three women whose remains were found at gilgo beach. The sumpter county Sheriffs Office is investigating a claim by the missing womans daughter who lost saw her daughter in a car with a car that looked similar to that linked to heuermann. The ripple effects of the Gilgo Beach Murder case spreading hundreds of miles to South Carolina, that a woman who vanished in 2017 may have a connection to the suspected long island serial killer. That womans name is julia bean. And she disappeared in may 2017. Her Adult Daughter says she believes Rex Heuermann, the suspect in the gilgo beach killings, is the man or may be the man she saw with her mom the night before her mom disappeared. She remembers that man having a car that is similar to one that authorities have now connected to heuermann. We have reached out to heuermanns attorney about the latest possible connection. He has told us he has no response to these sort of latest allegations. Its worth noting, South Carolina investigators have said there is no other Concrete Evidence besides this story from the daughter that links heuermann to this investigation. But he does reportedly own property in that area, so its not entirely random. At this point, eleven bodies have been found around gilgo beach, Rex Heuermann, a husband, father and architect from long island has been charged with firstdegree murder in three of those cases. Hes being investigated and kind of named a Prime Suspect in a fourth case, and hes been investigated, tied to a slew of cases, namely those 11. He has pleaded not guilty to all charges against him. His attorneys saying that he has maintained his innocence from the start. Back to you. Joining me right now is former u. S. Attorney and msnbc legal analyst, barbara mcquade. The sumpter county Sheriffs Office qualified the information they received about the potential connection to julia anne beans disappearance as thirdhand. What does that mean . Well, i think there are a couple of factors that are at play here. One is making sure that everyone understands that no one is being accused of anything. And also that this is something who is not a direct eyewitness to a crime, that she had some information, but having some information is enough to open an investigation. And when there is a vigorous investigation ongoing, based on these long island murders, i think there could be information thats fruitful. For example, once you have a name of a suspect, you can use things like grand jury subpoenas to track their credit card charges. That can put a person at a place in time. Or cell site Location Information that can track whereabouts of a person. And so those are the kinds of clues that can help investigators put together an unsolved mystery. As maggie mentioned, there have been eleven sets of Human Remains Found near Ocean Parkway on long island since 2010. Rex heuermann has been charged and pleaded not guilty in connection with the deaths of three. Hes considered the Prime Suspect in a fourth. What are investigators doing right now to perhaps connect any dots should they exist between heuermann and any of these other cases. I think theyre going to want to look for similarities in the mo of the murder. I have read that, for example, some of the bodies that were found were wrapped in camouflage burlap, which is a fairly distinctive way of wrapping that bodies. Its a strong clue that it might have been the same person who committed the crimes. Lest a person try to tamper with evidence, destroy evidence, get to witnesses that could share information about it. We may not hear too much about the details, but those things could be used to link one murder to another. We know police combed through the Massapequa Park home for evidence. They are considering a lawsuit because of the condition it was left in. How long would it take to go through that amount of evidence . It depends on what they were able to take out of the home. Sometimes what theyre looking for is an old hat that might have a stray hair so that they can do some sort of Hair Comparison or dna sample. It may be that there are papers or diaries they want to read through to see if somebody made a confession. So really depends on how much they pulled out of there. The other thing that can really take a long time is if theres computer evidence. Oftentimes somebody has a laptop or tablet and phones, and theyll want to go through those things to see if theres evidence. So often you can find Text Messages that can perhaps connect somebody to a rendezvous to connect one of the victims. 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Instead focusing directly on what the president was talking about when he spoke to these Union Workers in philadelphia today, talking about jobs and the economy. But theyre news worthy, nonetheless, because while we would expect most political opponents to take advantage of these legal cases against their political opponent, rather, we really havent seen President Biden or the biden team do this at all since launching the 2024 campaign. Weve only really heard him talk about trump in the context of maga republicans, when hes talking off camera at fundraisers or when talking about the economy. And taxes specifically. But we have really been waiting for the next step or part two in what the campaign was going to do after we saw, again, not mentioning specifically by name but after we saw the Campaign Feature Images of trump and the january 6th attack on the capitol, and lean into that messaging that was familiar from the 2020 campaign about, for example, threats to democracy and restoring the soul of america, so biden aides are saying that this approach has all been intentional up until in point. They didnt want to lean into the accusations by the former president that the current president was using his Justice Department for his political advantage, but some biden allies are worried that this is a big political gamble to make, that this silence could end up back firing long term. So now were hearing from the Biden Campaign saying that we should expect the more sharp messaging, more forceful messaging from the president in future speeches, in future appearances, but i think the big question, once we do see that is how forceful that messaging is going to be. And lindsay, whether that messaging sticks and resonates with voters as we head deeper into as we head closer into 2024, lindsay. It feels like a gamble either way. Is it a smart move for biden not to talk directly about trump . I think your mic is off. Were three years in to covid, still having to unmute. This is something the Biden Administration has been making since the very beginning. Make sure that they wanted to show that the deal day had nothing to do with the administration, with the white house, that biden was not trying to influence them with their decisions, and thats something he feels deeply. We talked to biden aides around the Biden Campaign. Thats what they would tell you, so this is something were not going to expect him to change at all. It is a gamble you hear from democrats who are famous for belly aching, they will even admit to, that they will constantly talk about the things that they should be doing, could be doing in the Biden White House and on this Biden Campaign, but this is also a Biden Campaign and white house that ignores a lot of those naysayers, they feel like they have done and gone against what they said over and over. Wouldnt it just give ammo to the people who think that the doj is politicized . Absolutely, and thats another concern they have, they feel like everyone knows how biden feels about donald trump and the underlying things that are in these indictments, and also they dont want to give any kind of inclination to people who are being honest brokers and having conversations about these things that the biden folks arent, that joe biden is calling Merrick Garland or signaling to Merrick Garland in public what he wants the doj and the special counsel investigations to do, and i think that is something thats really important to him, and also important, he feels, to the country and the healthy democracy. We are expecting this fall for biden to talk about and lean in more on finding some way to do, you know, show the difference between him and donald trump, maybe not using his name, but talking about democracy even more than he has over the last few months, talking about the importance of those things. So he will acknowledge the underlying aspects of these probes, and these indictments, but hes not going to i would be shocked to see him in any way, shape or form talk about the actual indictments themselves. And calling out extreme maga republicans. Eugene, the Biden Campaign made a 25 million ad buy in Battleground States largely focusing on issues like abortion and the economy. Whats the calculus for the campaign that that is what voters most want to hear . One, they know their message on bidenomics has not been breaking through. This is a white house that has been talking about what they have done for the economy, and they know, and they will admit and have admitted that people arent all feeling that, right, and so you have to find a way to get americans to feel better about the economy. This has been true for politics for a very long time. Especially president ial politics, how people feel about the economy is how theyre going to vote. If people go in next november, and theyre feeling like the economy has done nothing for them, they blame joe biden, theyre likely to vote for someone else, and this is an administration and a campaign that knows that. They know that they dont have a, you know, a real opponent in this primary, so theyre going to be able to do things like this, where they talk about the economy and focus on that the most, because they know at the end of the day, they have to get voters and the good things of the economy are working for them, and the things theyre struggling at, thats why part of it is finishing the job, you heard from President Biden, Vice President kamala harris, over and over again. Theyre trying to find ways to be honest with folks about those things, while still touting their accomplishments. Really quick, i have less than 30 seconds with you, do you get the sense that talking about Womens Health rights, republicans dont want to talk about abortion . I think thats right. Youre going to continue to see them. And democrats have been winning on abortion, right, at the polls, and that has happened over and over and over again in blue states and red states. They feel like its a winning issue. They also feel like people like mike pence that continue to push things like a National Abortion ban are doing them a favor in keeping it in the minds of voters. Allie raffa and Eugene Daniels, well keep it right there. From starbucks to amazon, there have been more than 230 strikes this year, 320,000 workers have walked off the job, compare that to 115 strikes, and 20,000 workers over the same period in 2021, according to Cornell Universitys labor tracker. We spent time with those affected by one of the most visible strikes, one that may last for months more, sagaftra. Hi amber. Thanks for having us. Reporter Amber Crawford has been living in new york and working as an actress for 15 years. Her apartment isnt just her sanctuary, its also now her office. This is where i tape actors, this is where i audition coach. We go through the script, and i coach them. We put it on tape. We send that to the casting director. Reporter what is at stake for you personally with this strike . The fact that its open ended. Were not given a date when it could come back f were going to come back, these are scary times. Reporter amber said her Audition Tape Business dried up after the Writers Strike began in may. Shes going from the red carpet finish shows like average joe, to the unknown, wondering where her next check is coming from. Actors want the General Public to know that we are just labor workers just like people driving ups trucks. Just like people working at starbucks. Reporter i caught up with actor, and sagaftra local new york president on the picket lines. Let them know youre not going to use us to promote your summer block busters, youre not going to use us to keep promoting all of your streaming platforms. Youre not going to use us. I think the power of unions is an incredible thing, but its really hard to throw yourself behind something that has in sort of a selfish way, made your immediate life a lot more difficult. Its hard not to feel like a little bit of just Collateral Damage in the whole thing. Reporter Production Assistant Gabrielle Constable is out of work. Doesnt feel like the potential benefits from the strikes will trickle down for her. The things that the writers are fighting for and the things the actors are fighting for are deserved but there are still people out there who are getting even less. Reporter between the long hours she spent on sets and the uncertain future, shes considering a career change. Maybe well dust off the old bar tending skills, see if i can still hold a tray of drinks. Reporter amber told me she may dust off her Restaurant Skills but is looking forward to the day when she can get back to her passion, and get paid for it. 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