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After the next president ial election, as the former president and his codefendants in the georgia case have just one week more to surrender for booking at a Fulton County jail. Chris christie sharpening his attacks on ron desantis today in the florida governors own backyard. The American People want from a president more than anything else is authenticity. This campaign of his has gone from up here to down here because people are really beginning to wonder what the hell he stands for. Good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. President biden is hosting a diplomatic show of force this hour at camp david. A summit with japans Prime Minister and south koreas president , to discuss shared security challenges, chinas growing economic and geopolitical power and kim jonguns expansion of his Nuclear Weapons program. A new concern for these leaders, a north Korean Missile tested in july and as first reported by nbc, clearly identical or nearly identical in appearance and trajectory data to a Russian Missile that can penetrate u. S. Defenses and carry multiple warheads as far as the east coast. Joining me now, nbc chief White House Correspondent kristin welker, nbc Foreign Correspondent Janis Mackey Frayer in beijing and victor cha, the career chair for international studies. The first to report the similarities between the north Korean Missile and a russian weapon. Talk us through the priorities for the leaders at camp david today. We saw them arriving. What do they hope to leave the discussions with at the end of a big day . Reporter this is hugely significant for all of the reasons that you laid out. We are expecting that there will be some deliverables. New joint military exercises, new intelligence sharing, including a way to communicate directly in case of a crisis. Essentially, what they are calling a threeway hotline. That is significant. It does come in the face of new aggressions by china. All of those provocations by north korea, which you laid out. The location is significant as well. Senior Administration Official saying this of camp david. Quote, i think theres a recognition that the venue is reserved for only the most important and significant such meetings. This official citing peace talks between the israelis and palestinian delegations under former president clinton as well as the critical talks that occurred at the end of world war ii. The symbolism almost as important here as the substance. What you are seeing is this push by President Biden to really try to get the two leaders of South Korea And Japan to put aside these long tensions that have been between the two nations and to come together to really have this united front in the face of the new aggressions by china and north korea. Its a critical Foreign Policy test for the president. Of course, it comes at a critical time when he is running for reelection. Chris kristin welker, thank you very much. Reporter for South Korea And Japan and the united states, the threats are very real. Theres chinas military and buildup and behavior in the south china sea. North korea testing new weapons and making advances in its weapons program. Also signs of growing Military Cooperation between russia and north korea. China has been watching this Summit Take Shape and not having flattering things to say about it. State media here has been characterizing the trilateral get together as a mininatostyle alliance. They say itsdestructive and going to cause more conflict. This is tricky navigating for South Korea And Japan, given chinas economic clout in the region. China is the number one Trading Partner for both South Korea And Japan. Beijing has warned seoul and tokyo against getting too close to the west. This sort of trilateral meeting and a deal might not have happened even a year ago. There have been a number of developments between South Korea And Japan and their reconciliation. There has also been a shift in this region in the way that leaders view security, because of the ukraine war. China and russia have obviously been forging closer ties in the wake of that. As well, this growing cooperation bringing in north korea. There is the sense that the u. S. , with this, is going to be able to lock in its two main allies in the region and take this trilateral cooperation and make it something more permanent. Victor, lets pick it up there and focus on whether or not this alliance can become real. North korea doesnt react overtly and the north Korean Alliance with russia, which you have laid out in the last 24 hours, is really a big new issue. Yes, it is. I completely agree that this is a very important meeting among the three countries. The first of its kind at camp david. Most importantly, i think theyre going to institutionalize this by having it happen every year, like as the nato Leaderss Summit or the g7 summit. In the face of what we think is growing russian and north korean cooperation, north korea has provided munitions to russia for the war in ukraine, the Defense Minister was given the Vip Treatment by the north korean leader. The missile that north korea launched that has the ability to penetrate u. S. Defenses looks like old russian soviet technology they have used in the past in terms of size and appearance, trajectory and acceleration rates. Theres concern here. Kim and putin have talked about deepening their Military Cooperation in letters to one another. Kim announced that north korea will ramp up their missile production. It starts to come together in a russia and north korea ificatio this meeting. I wanted to give you a chance to drill down a little bit more on chinas economy, whats happening with youth unemployment, they may raise their prime rate on monday. The problems they are having. Reporter yesterday, a big chinese Property Developer filing for Bankruptcy Protection in the u. S. , after another major developer was showing signs of struggling with liquidity. This is an alarm bell. The massive real estate sector here had long been the Growth Engine for china. It accounts for as much as 30 of gdp. Add in the other numbers, manufacturing down, imports and exports are down. Theres talk of deflation here. The central bank now making moves to cut Interest Rates to try to stimulate growth. All of this coming after there was the expectation of a postpandemic boom, when china relaxes the zero covid rules, that there was nowhere to go but up for the economy. That hasnt been the case. The concern now is that there will be contagion. The weakness here will spread elsewhere. The other concern is that with all of this evidence mounting of slowing growth, to this point, chinas leadership hasnt appeared to be rushing to revive the economy. Theres also a push within state media to not talk about the economy in negative terms. Dont use words like deflation. There is the sense that maybe if theres a plan thats taking shape behind closed doors, but there is the sense that chinas economy is facing real troubles. We are showing another picture of the photo opportunities, when they first made their opening statements. Its interesting to watch the seating arrangements. If we could widen out there on that picture. You have tony blinken on one side of the president , to his wide. To his left is gina romando, who is the commerce secretary. That, i think, is an important signal. Shes the next person to visit china, as you know, Janis Mackey Frayer, coming after yellen and blinken and john kerry on the china Climate Change issues. They are trying to build her up and signal to china this is what they are talking about also. Its not just weapons. Its economic weapons, right . Reporter she is the one official that beijing officials would like to see visit china. Commerce is the gatekeeper to export restrictions, the gatekeeper to trying to strengthen u. S. china trade when diplomatic relations are reaching new lows. So that is some important signaling on the part there. We appreciate you staying up late and being with us. And victor, your expertise is invaluable. Thanks to both. Trial balloon. Donald trumps lawyers making their first formal appeal to push his Election Interference Trial to 2026, beyond the 24 election. Can he dodge court until so long after the election . Thats next when Andrea Mitchell reports is back in 60 seconds. We will be right back right here on msnbc. Snbc ive got Home Internet from tmobile. It only costs 50 bucks at tmobile. Just one cord to set up. Say goodbye to that truck. Oh, what a beautiful mornin. Oh, what a beautiful day. They wont raise your rates at tmobile. Youll get a great deal every day Home Internet from tmobile. Just 50 bucks a month. Former President Trump has asked a judge to delay special counsel jack smiths federal trial on Election Interference until 2026. Thats more than two years after prosecutors asked for the trial to begin. Its a year and a half after the 2024 election. Smith proposed a january 2nd, 2024 start, which most lawyers agree was ambitambitious. Trumps attorneys say due to the complexity of the case, its an impossible date. In their filing, trumps team showing that if they were to print the more than 11 million pages of documents turned over to them by the prosecution, it would equal a tower of Paper Stretching Nearlytaller than thf liberty. Joyce, to you. Does the Trump Legal Team have to go through every page of a document . They said it was like reading War And Peace 78 times a day. Since this is all digital, arent there lawyers in a lot of big cases who can just speed through this process using Word Searches . Is that not fair . Exactly. An entire industry has grown up around discovery in criminal cases. You dont have to read War And Peace 78 times a day. You simply search for natasha and find every page where shes mentioned. You focus in there. A lot of this material will be the same. There will be emails and stuff like that. I think its misleading to use this sort of an analogy. Trump is a wealthy man. He has the ability to hire teams of lawyers. He has the ability to hire experts who do this sort of computer search. That will focus their endeavors and their efforts in a way thats more streamlined than the argument they try to make in this brief. Joyce, sticking to the federal case, Last Night Former attorney general bill barr said Donald Trumps run for white house should not dictate when he goes on trial. Barr suggesting that he expects trump to be convicted on some of the charges. Take a look. It was a calculated and deceitful plan to remain in office by nullifying and negating certified legal votes. The fact he didnt drop things could lead some to believe that he did feel that he was robbed. This was the good fight and the proper fight. Well, even if he did i am dubious about that. Even if he believed that, that doesnt mean you can use illegal means to rectify it. If you think the bank is unfairly keeping your money, there are many things you can do to get it back. You cant go and rob the bank. Your comment, joyce . Right. I think this is a great analogy. This is something that we will see as pretrial litigation advanced in all of the cases. This notion that as americans we have to abide by the rule of law, when we have disagreements about how things work, whether its a small personal case involving money or whether you are a political candidate who believes that you have lost a national election, there are steps you can take. At some point, you have to accept the judgment of more than 70 courts that said there was no fraud in the election and trump goes too far. It is interesting that we are hearing this from bill barr, who stood behind donald trump for so long, only resigning from the Justice Department just days ahead of christmas, after trump had lost that election. A good point. Gwen, lets turn to the latest trump indictment, which is georgia. Governor kemp of georgia was speaking about the indictment. Seemed to suggest that he doesnt think that this case could come to trial that quickly. Lets watch. Im sure i will be a witness in whatever goes forward. I cant say much about the indictment. Regardless of what you think about the indictment, when i came out two days ago now and tweeted the election wasnt stolen here and we needed to stay focussed on the future, one thing is certain about these indictments, in my mind, in my opinion, this trial, despite what dates anybody is asking for or anything else, its not going to happen before the election. What do you think about that, gwen . I think we need to wait and see what judge mcafee decides to do. Like you saw in the january 6 matter, where the prosecution put forth a schedule and the defense team put forth a counter schedule, those are far apart, you could expect to see a similar thing in the georgia case. The point is, every District Attorney bears the burden of proof to establish or prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. This District Attorney indicated shes ready to go on the schedule she suggested. I think that demonstrates her confidence in her case, recognizing that theres going to be extensive pretrial discovery, pretrial motions. That does not negate the fact that shes ready to go and seek justice on behalf of the folks that voted her into office. Gwen, i know you are a friend and mentor of willis. How is she handling Donald Trumps continuing online taunts and bullying in the federal case and in the state case of various participants . Let me be clear. I havent spoken to her directly about this case. I can only speak to that issue based on my Prior Experience as a d. A. I can tell you two things. One, its disheartening that any public servant, whether elected by the residents of the county or whether you are serving as an appointee as part of that elected officials office, nobody should have to bear or put up with the level of attacks and threats that seem to be going on now. Secondly, because both d. A. Willis and her team as her appointees have taken their oath of office, they are all lawyers and investigators that are committed to their craft, they are not going to be distracted by these threats and attacks. They will stay focused on what their oath calls them to do. That is to seek justice and investigate matters in a way that maintains due process for defendants and the integrity of the cases overall for the justice system. Joyce and gwen, thanks to both of you. Coming up, justice for all. Alberto gonzales sharing his thoughts on whether donald trump should serve prison time if convicted with our own jen psaki. She joins us coming up in a minute. My a1c was up here; now, its down with rybelsus®. His a1c . Its down with rybelsus®. My doctor told me rybelsus® lowered a1c better than a leading branded pill and that people taking rybelsus® lost more weight. I got to my a1c goal and lost some weight too. Rybelsus® isnt for people with type 1 diabetes. 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If, in fact, the crimes that if, in fact, jack smith is successful in prosecuting donald trump for the crimes that he is charged, i think it would be fair that he go to prison. Joining me now is jen psaki. This is a world travel, a different world. Alberto gonzales, a bush era attorney general talking about jail time for a former president. I thought the point he made is interesting. He has been advocating for reminding people that the Justice Department does not target republicans. The majority of people who work there are Career Officials who are not affiliated with either party historically. What he said is interesting. It goes to the point. Oath keepers, people who participated On January 6th in the insurrection, many of them have gone to jail. That was part of the department of justices strategy. If donald trump is convicted of that, shouldnt he also go to jail . Its an equal justice under law question. I was surprised, it took him a second to get there, that he did go there. Here is mike pence, just today in atlanta in the last hour. Mike pence talking about the georgia case. He was in atlanta, at the forum. No one is above the law. The former president and all of those involved are entitled to the presumption of innocence that every american is entitled to. That being said, i think its important, irrespective of that case or other cases, that we speak the truth to the American People. I had no right to overturn the election. The Georgia Election was not stolen. The Georgia Election was not stolen. I had no right to overturn the law. He is threading that needle. Thats his he is consistently framing it that way leading into the debate. Which is so interesting. Also, ron desantis came to the brink of saying just last week that the election was not was legitimately won by joe biden. Thats a paraphrase. Whats interesting to watch is Martha Mccellum has suggested that she might raise this question about whether or not these candidates think the 2020 election was won by joe biden. That would be very interesting if that happens. We will see given that has been the majority of republican candidates and Republican Leaders have been saying for years that it wasnt. That could be a shift. As someone who worked in campaigns as well as in the white house, what about the Political Action committee by a wellknown perhaps the leading Campaign Adviso on the republican side putting out on a very accessible website a Really Patronizing and strange playbook for what desantis should do, telling him how many times he should say this or that. He should defend donald trump. First of all, its important to remember he is i grew up in the obama world. That was my early experience in politics. He is like the David Axelrod of the ron desantis world. He is running the superpac. His political advice to ron desantis is to say his his quotes, donald trump is weak. Lay off him and not attack him from this stage. Its a questionable strategy. Also, it is suggesting that donald trump shouldnt be a part of the discussion, that these candidates who are trying to defeat him shouldnt talk about his legal issues. The fact that the frontrunner has been indicted four times, that shouldnt be on the table. There are a lot of things that are questionable about that. It advises ron desantis to go after ramaswamy, which tells you about who they think the biggest threat is to them. Which is really interesting. His polls have been creeping up as well. Finally, donald trump listening to his lawyers, listening to advice . This is no the what happens. He has been attacking prosecutors and everybody else. He decided to cancel the Monday Press Conference and the way he was going to irrefutably explain what was wrong with the indictment in georgia. Exactly. Its the first time that to our knowledge that donald trump has taken, it seems like, the advice of his lawyers. It could tell you a lot of things. Maybe he is concerned about the seriousness of these legal issues and recognizes that him going out and speaking publically and saying things in a forum like that could hurt him in the courtroom. Jen, i want to hear more from you. I will have to watch on sunday. Sunday at noon. Be sure to join tune in Sunday At Noon for Inside Request Jen Psaki right here on msnbc. The Pacific Storm Heading that way. A rare category 4 Hurricane Barrelling toward the west coast. How residents are preparing for record breaking amounts of rain and flooding. You are watching Andrea Mitchell reports. This is msnbc. [sneeze] astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other Allergy Sprays take hours. With astepros unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go why didnt we do this last year . 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If he thinks he is going to get on the stage and defend donald trump on wednesday night, then he should do donald trump a favor and our party a favor, come back to tallahassee, endorse donald trump and get out of the race. Joining us now, Shaquille Brewster with Chris Christie in miami. April ryan, an msnbc contributor eugene daniels. Shaq, you are in florida with Chris Christie in miami. The Cuban American Community loves to meet there. Continuing to go after trump and ron desantis. Reporter thats right. The event that he was at earlier was at a Breakfast Series of candidates. One thing you saw is that people were skeptical. They were open to listening to him and listening to his message. One gentleman told me that he expected to not like Chris Christie but said he was more open to him after hearing from him. He said its because he is a unique candidate. Thats somewhat true. When you listen to the sound you played, this candidate doesnt hesitate going after desantis or trump. What that earned him is an unfavorable rating among republicans. Two polls show he has an unfavorable rating of 60 among republicans. I asked him about that as he was stopping here and shaking hands. Listen to how he responded to the numbers. Those numbers change, a. B, i expected that in the beginning. If you go after the guy who has been the nominee for the last two times, you will get some republicans who will not like that. When they start to listen to understand why, which im trying to make the Republican Party a Winning Party again, take it out of the hands of a guy who is a threetime loser in 18 and 20 and 22, that i want joe biden to be defeated. Thats why im going after donald trump. Reporter we also got a preview of his debate strategy. He is going to speak directly to voters. He said if a candidate says something stupid, in his words, he is ready to call them out. Tim scotts campaign has placed an 8 million buy for postdebate spots in iowa and new hampshire. The first candidate to do that. He has been a reluctant candidate when it comes to criticizing donald trump. He has been defending him. He is not going to defend him. He speaks the language, the black president ial candidate for the Republican Party, he speaks that language. At the same time, he has to figure out how to carve out his own lane. Especially at a time when you have people like another unicorn, Chris Christie, because he is speaking so publically and against donald trump. Tim scott has to find his lane. Right now, so many people are saying tim scott would be that perfect cushion if desantis or donald trump were to receive the nomination. They are the ones talking race. As tim scott is a black man, he would cushion that harsh rhetoric that they are offering. Tim scott is placing himself in a very good position for people to notice in this moment of hate, division. He is a unicorn in the party. He has a message and great appeal potentially, eugene, in iowa to evangelical message. His background and his faith, his whole story. Its very appealing. He has found some real big crowds in the last couple of days. Last weekend in particular in iowa. Thats absolutely true. When he talks about list about his family going from slavery to the senate, thats a story and the American Dream the way this country treated black people, thats appetizing to a lot of people, not just republicans, but others. He will have to figure out if he is going to be that maga person or if he is going to just be this optimistic warrior, which is really what we see him leaning into most currently. Whether that holds up on wednesday on the debate stage is another thing. When you talk to aides and folks on his campaign, what they do is when you say the Republican Party doesnt seem like a party that wants an optimistic vision of the future, this is the base thats very angry, upset. They dont want to look like they want a happy, smiling warrior of a nominee. But think about how the Democratic Party was in 2008. It was a party that after eight eight years of bush and wars and all of these things was also very angry, but somehow barack obama was able to carve out a lane. Not to compare the two black men, but that is what theyre thinking of, theyre figuring out a way to take an angry party and turn that anger into something they can use in the 2024 election. Its going to be very difficult. He has moments that are coming up, but at the same time, he is not, none of them are carving any of Donald Trumps hard base support. Im not sure how you do that without actually criticizing the man. Thats such a good point. Shaq, i want to share something thats been filed by blayne alexander. Its a statement from the fbi in atlanta, the fbi office saying that fbi atlanta is aware of the threats of violence against Fulton County officials and its working with the Sheriffs Office there, saying its their policy not to discuss ongoing investigations, but saying that every threat is taken seriously. Individuals found responsible for making threats in violation of state and or federal laws will be prosecuted, and thats, you know, a warning to what theyve seen in the threat matrix, but potentially its a warning that donald trump could hear from the judge, the Presiding Judge down there as well. Shaq. Whats that . Im sorry. Sorry, andrea, say that last part one more time. I was just saying that the fbi in atlanta is warning that theyre taking these threats seriously and are investigating them. This has been filed by blayne alexander, and its something that former President Trump may see in the courtroom when he finally gets to an arraignment, you know, in front of that judge, if he does. Reporter right, no, thats exactly right, andrea, and i didnt see that exactly report that blayne just filed out of atlanta, but one thing that were seeing governor christie mentioned it today the rhetoric, its getting intense, and thats one thing that you have from voters is concern from Law Enforcement organizations that the rhetoric is getting too tight, that its getting too tense. Thats why you have the Security Afternoon the Fulton County judge and the jail there. Its something that folks will be watching and directly involved and directly goes into what were seeing here in this republican primary race. Thats really important information, shaq brewster, april ryan, great to see you here, and eugene daniels, as always, thanks to you guys. 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The head of the Maui Emergency Management Agency in hawaii has resigned citing health concerns, but his resignation comes after widespread criticism of his handling of leadership of the Emergency Response beginning with that controversial decision not to activate the warning sirens as the fires were breaking out. At a contentious press conference, her man andaya said the sirens were primarily used for Tsunami Warnings and could have been led people into more danger. Do you regret not sounding the sirens . I do not. The public is trained to seek Higher Ground in the event that the siren is sounded and they would have gone into the fire. Now of course he is resigning. The search continues, though, for the missing and families are demanding answers as only 58 of the fire zone has now been searched. We are also learning that toxicity from the fires could last for years and that ash could cause further contamination with the next rain. Nbcs dana griffin has the latest. Reporter herman andayas resignation comes as the independent investigator will now look at the critical decisionmaking, the policies, and also actions taken the day of the fire to see if there was anything that could have been done differently. Weve heard such criticism from the people of maui as far as enough water being released to make sure that it could fight the fire, the sirens were sounded. Herman andaya says he did not sound those sirens because he thought that it could have prompted people to go toward the flame. Those Tsunami Warnings were often used for people to seek Higher Ground, but residents argue that the sirens would have alerted their elderly relatives to at least go outside and look around that would have given them an opportunity to escape according to a lot of people. Hawaiian electric is also under scrutiny for possibly not deenergizing power lines and possibly one of its power lines causing the fire. Theres video circulating online, the company says they are looking into the allegations, but they are not commenting on the pending litigation. Theres a lot of frustration from people here who are also looking for the missing. 111 people have been confirmed dead, up to 1,300 remain missing. Right now 58 of that decimated area has been searched. The governor hopes to reach up to 85 by the weekend. Back to you. And our thanks to day na griffin. And before we go, i want to wish a very happy 96th birthday to rosalyn carter, the former first lady who was an early champion of providing Mental Health care to people across the u. S. , is said to be celebrating at home in plains, georgia, with her husband jimmy carter Eating Cupcakes and ice cream. Our best wishes to them and Chris Jansing reports starts right now. Good day. Im Chris Jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. And we have new reporting from the times this morning about how former President Trump plans to upstage next wednesdays debate on the heels of the audacious move by his lawyers. In a detailed new filing, their arguments for pushing the Election Interference Trial not just past the election but into 2026. One fierce republican critic of the formere