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Underway for donald trump and 18 allies to surrender any day in atlanta. Plus, the effort by his former Chief Of Staff to get this case moved. Also ahead, new reporting on why the Special Counsel wanted trumps tweets and a new warning from his former a. G. About trumps social media habits and the potential for more trouble. The latest on that legal labyrinth just ahead. And the death toll from the wildfires in hawaii, now over 100, 1,000 still missing and new reporting just in about when the president will visit the burn zone. Thanks so much for joining us. Its 10 00 eastern, im Ana Cabrera Reporting from new york, and this morning the countdown is on for donald trump and his allies to surrender to authorities in georgia. The former president and his 18 codefendants have until high noon next friday to voluntarily surrender, and we have some new details about where the booking will happen. Atlantas Rice Street Jail. This as trumps former white house Chief Of Staff mark meadows is trying to move this case to Federal Court claiming he was only acting under the color of his federal office when the alleged crimes occurred. Our Blayne Alexander and katie phang are staying on top of every new development from atlanta and also with us ta mar hallerman, former Atlanta Journal constitution. Shes from the Atlanta Journal constitution, and joyce vance, former u. S. Attorney from alabama. Hows this going to go down when trump and his codefendants Surf Anne Arundeler . Ana, good morning to you. We now have a place. Thats something weve been wondering about for quite some time. A spokesperson says based on guidance from the District Attorneys Office and from the Presiding Judge, its believed that all 19 defendants are going to go to the Fulton County jail. Thats about four miles or so away from here, about a 15 minute drive. Typically thats a process that includes fingerprinting. That includes mug shots. A spokesperson confirms that to me. Of course its not clear whether that would happen here. There are a number of factors that go into this. Certainly the sheriff has said that he plans to treat this just like he would any other booking unless he is told differently. But we know the Presiding Judge has a say. We know that its possible Defense Attorneys could work out or negotiate the terms with the d. A. , and then also theres the presence of the Secret Service in all of this. When you talk about the former president , right . Our colleague Kelly Odonnell is reporting that the Secret Service has been kind of surveying Fulton County doing sort of walkthroughs even before the indictment was handed up. So theyre already getting eyes on what a potential surrender could look like from a safety perspective. Now, when we talk about the arraignment and the surrender, its important to note that these are two different things. So the surrender is the turning in. Still tbd what that could possibly look like. As we wait for all of this, remember, this is the jail that has been plagued by a number of issues in recent years, overcrowding. Its under doj investigation for conditions there. Certainly not clear how much or where anytime any of these 19 defendants would actually spend at that jail, but certainly interesting backdrop as we wait to watch this kind of trickle of surrenders begin between now and next friday. Quickly if you will, you say the surrender or arraignment will be separate, but do we know if theyll all be arraigned at the same time then. Would it be after everybody has surrendered, then theyll all go to court for arraignment. Is it going to be this sort of Trickle Effect as well . See these are things that we dont know. These are things that were still waiting to find out. I think one very important thing that i keyed in on from the Sheriffs Office Statement Last night that really kind of applies to this entire situation is that any of these plans could change at any time with very little notice just due to the nature of, of course, the defendants that were talking about, namely the former president. Thats certainly one thing to know. When we talk about arraignments, though, a lot of options are on the Table Including possibly a virtual arraignment. So there is a situation where, yes, there could be inperson bookings, but then the arraignment could be done via zoom or whatever platform is available. Thats also an action to watch for in the coming days. Were learning a lot. Thank you very much. Joyce, the local sheriff says he plans to treat trump like any other defendant in this booking process, but is that even possible hes the former president . Sure, i think its a very achievable goal. For one thing, sheriffs really are the Law Of The Land in their county, and more or less what they say goes, but theyre used to working and coordinating with federal Law Enforcement partners, certainly with the fbi, the Secret Service maintains an office in atlanta, and so i think well see coordination with the federal agencies trying to respect the normal process as much as possible, but this jail, the Rice Street Jail in Fulton County thats used to book virtually everyone whos arrested in this county is a far cry from what the former president has experienced so far. As you mentioned ana, its under investigation by doj, which uses a statute called crip pa, to look into the conditions that people who are confined in State Prisons are held in. This has been a persistent problem in this area, and it will likely be a very rude awakening for some of these defendants who have never seen facility like this before, even if theyre only there to go through booking. It may well be a real moment where they realize what theyre now up against. Katie, what do we know about the judge that will be overseeing this sprawling case . Judge scott mccaffey. Ana, it is a random assignment, a blind assignment of judges here in Fulton County, he was only appointed to the bench last year by the governor, brian kemp. He began sitting in that seat as a judge in january of this year. Only seven months hes been sitting on the bench. Prior to that he had nine years of legal experience coming from the officer of inspector general. He does have criminal experience. He was a federal prosecutor and an assistant District Attorney here in atlanta, but keep in mind, hes actually up for reelection 2024, and so theres a lot of Question Marks and a lot of eyebrows being raised. Nine years of legal experience, only on the bench for seven months. For some perspective, the young siem life gang and racketeering rico case, Jury Selection began seven months ago. That was a rico indictment that was brought by Fani Willis Last year in 2022, and theyre only on the seven month of Jury Selection. That might give you an idea. Tomorrow trump is still claiming he won the state of georgia, which he didnt and georgias republican governor is pushing back on trump yesterday tweeting that the 2020 election in georgia was not stolen. Ta mar, im just wondering how is this new indictment going over with the people, the voters in georgia. We know georgia will again be a crucial state in 2024. It depends who youre talking to. Georgia is one of the swingiest states in the country now. You look at Fulton County, much more democratic than the rest of the state. Something like 72 of the people in the county selected joe biden for president in 2020. Depending on where you are, theres jubilation, theres skepticism, theres anger. It just depends on who youre talking to. Thats a notable tweet that you just showcased from Governor Kemp. He has kept an arms length approach from the former president. He took care not to bash him as he was running for reelection last year and said he would still support the republican nominee for president even if its trump. But its notable that trumps calls to Governor Kemp were part of this indictment. So many different developments. Im going to pivot to mark meadows. He is now moving to try to get the case moved from state to Federal Court. Whats his argument . Reporter yeah, so we want to keep an eye on this, this is definitely something donald trump is anticipated to do as well. Theres a mechanism provided in the federal statutes to allow for a defendant whos being criminally prosecuted in state court if they were a federal official when they did the particular acts that are part of the indictment in state court, theres a statute that allows them to try to remove their case from state court to Federal Court. Is there necessarily an advantage to a criminal defendant in Federal Court, thats debatable. But whats important about this notice of removal thats been filed by mark meadows is hes trying to get the case in its entirety dismissed. Hes not just trying to get it removed from state court to Federal Court, hes actually trying to get the case dismissed under the supremacy clause, this idea that he has immunity are from his actions. It doesnt mean hed be rid of fani willis. There is the possibility that fani willis and her team here in Fulton County become special prosecutors. They get kind of this temporary pass to go to Federal Court to act as federal prosecutors to prosecute this case, and so mark meadows, donald trump, you may file your notices of removal, but you may not be rid of fani willis. And tamar, how likely is it this case will be removed . Thats something legal experts are divided on. Some say the bar for being able to remove proceedings to Federal Court is pretty low and they think there is a good likelihood that trump, meadows, and potentially even justin clark would be able to argue successfully that they were acting in their federal roles. There are others who look at what happened in new york where donald trump tried to do the same thing in the alvin bragg case, and he wasnt successful. So i think its a good question. One advantage that they would get by being able to move proceedings to Federal Court, though, is a more conservative jury pool. It would be selected either from the ten counties in the atlanta area and that includes some suburban and exurban counties or it could potentially be drawn from the entire Northern District and that includes some of the most conservative congressional districts east of the mississippi including Marjorie Taylor greenes district. I have a couple of questions for you, joyce, first your thoughts on this issue. Where do you fall in terms of the possibility of this trial being moved to Federal Court, and what kind of impact would moving the venue have on prosecuting this case . Right, so i think the best way to understand it is to think about the process. Federal law says that a defendant who wants to remove his case should file a short plain statement, and if the judge cant read that statement and say, no, theres nothing to this, then the judge should hold an evidentiary hearing. Thats where well be. Meadows statement is anything but short and plain. Its convoluted. It is clear the law in this area is very friendly towards federal officials who try to remove, but thats because its meant to prevent states from prosecuting in large part Law Enforcement officers. Thats not what this case involves. Well see how the judge looks at it after he holds the effort area hearing. It is not a frivolous motion for meadows to make, but ultimately his claims dont fit the law very well here. I also wanted to ask you about giuliani and of course hes one of trumps codefendants, one of his oldest allies. Heres what he had to say about d. A. Fani willis. Im indicted for being his lawyer. I never thought id ever get indicted for being a lawyer. I thought what i was doing i was protected by the fact that i was defending him. Im supposed to argue in his favor. Joyce, weve heard similar comments from John Eastmans lawyer in response to this indictment. Does the law get complicated when someone is charged for actions they took as a lawyer . They all know its not true. Every federal prosecutor whos been in a situation where theyve used the crimefraud exception to pierce the Attorney Client relationship and prosecute or use as Witnesses Attorneys for clients who were engaged in criminal conduct, Rudy Giuliani in particular knows it. He did an awful lot as the United States attorney in the Southern District of new york, its just a disingenuous move designed to confuse people and not to be accountable for what he actually did in this situation. Joyce vance, Tamar Hallerman and katie phang, appreciate all of you ladies. Be sure to catch the katie phang show every weekday morning on msnbc. Ahead, the grim search through the ashes in hawaii as families wait for word and calls for accountability grow. Plus, a 17yearold in philadelphia now facing terror charges accused of Buying Materials that could be used for a bomb. And later, a hollywood twist no one saw coming, the shocking allegations involving the family whose story inspired the film The Blind Side. Hi, im john and im from dallas, texas. My wifes name is joy. Weve been married 45 years. Im taking a twoyear business course. Ive been studying a lot. Ive been producing and directing for over 50 years. Its a very detailed thing and the pressures all on me. 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The direct messages definitely stood out to me because trump has always been characterized to us as a person who doesnt text, he doesnt email. To the extent that his twitter account has direct messages in it, that begs the question, whos doing the messaging. Thats where the Location Data and the device data comes into question. We know there are people other than trump himself who has access to this account. One of the things thats blocked out in the transcripts of arguments before judge beryl howell is the Email Address of the person thats the current contact for the account. We dont know who that person is. People might speculate it could be dan scavino who was in charge of trumps social media as an aide in the white house and continues to work with him. But one of the things im interested in seeing is did trump also send, not only receive direct messages, and if he did, who was the author of those direct messages . Was it scavino . Was it trump . Or was it Somebody Else . Is there another ip address or device associated with the account that shows that multiple people in and around trump world had access to this count. Based on what we know about jack smiths investigation and we know this, does it all seem reasonable this was a focus of his investigation . Not necessarily. I think they were looking for lots of different information about trumps twitter account and one of the things in particular i think they might have been interested in is twee. In any litigation, particularly a criminal investigation like this, you want to see how the nature of communications evolves. Who was responsible for drafting something . Who edited it . How did it go back and forth . That tells you a lot about criminal intent and what a persons knowledge is in the same way that trumps january 6th speech went through multiple iterations between stephen miller, his staff and trump. So too the tweets might have gone through iterations and if some of the things that trump said were particularly incendiary reverted back to more incendiary language after white house aides or campaign allies tried to tone it down, thats something that will help jack smith show trump knew exactly what he was doing. Of course trump continues to put a lot of stuff on social media related to these cases, the four criminal cases that he has in addition to the civil ones that hes also facing. Hes been making frequent attacks against the judge in this january 6th election interference Special Counsel case, and heres a headline from the new york times. Biased, corrupt, deranged, trumps taunts test limits of his release. That piece goes on to argue that any other defendant would likely face consequences for these types of comments, perhaps even be put behind bars. Do you agree . I think theres a difference between sort of ambiguous characterizations of a person and things that up the ante into threatening language. Because theres trump and there are an army of people who hang on his every word, what might not be threatening from Somebody Elses mouth turns into a threat in his, but your point about who the focus is here is even more important to me. Hes not going after witnesses in that investigation right now. His ire is mostly directed towards judge chutkan, which shows me that he is really trying to bait her into some sort of restraint is on his Free Speech Rights. Its almost as if he wants those restraints so that he can point to it and prove this person was biased against me all along. Theyre putting him down. His former a. G. Bill barr quoted as saying even as President Trump would not keep his Public Comments about pending cases within proper limits. So its something that it seems he just doesnt like to play by the rules, but do you think it has an impact on potential jury pool or witnesses . I think its possible that it has an impact on jury pool. Witnesses probably less so, but i think judge chutkan is really going to be asking herself to what extent do his attacks on me affect the process. If the answer is, no, its just designed to is intimidate me and im not a person easily intimidated shes more likely to let it go. And we might not see her go from 0 to 180 but rather through a series of incremental steps warn the defendant and his lawyers again and again. That having been said, she was unambiguous last friday. Her obligation is to the integrity of the process, even if that means that Donald Trumps Free Speech Rights are more constrained than he thinks they should be. She did signal that her potential consequence would be to move the trial along faster. We might get an earlier date. Thats the stick thats going to motivate trump more so than contempt or the possibility of jail time. If you keep doing this, youll give me no choice but to try this case faster. Up next on ana cabrera reports, as the death toll tragically rises in hawaii, one resident says theres a new threat in the aftermath of the fires. Realtors, people in the real estate industry, are calling your family and your friends who have lost everything to buy their plots of land . It is disgusting. Its a land grab, and i know that our lahaina community, we are resilient and we will do whatever it takes to protect lahaina. Rotect lahaina. ella fashion moves fast. Setting trends is our business. We need to scale with customer demand. 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Joining us now from maui is nbc news correspondent steve patterson. Steve, in addition to the search for those 1,000 or so people still missing, i know there are growing calls for accountability this morning. Where does that stand at this hour . Reporter yeah, i think you have to break down the accountability based on time frames, right . There are kind of Accountability Calls about before and how the fire started, during and the response to the fire, and then after and what could happen well beyond the fire burn. Lets start chronologically, right . So there is more mounting circumstantial, i want to say that, Video Evidence that although the cause is certainly under investigation that downed power lines may be used as evidence to prove that that was the cause of the fire. Hawaiian electric already has three lawsuits against it saying that the power should have been cut during the fire or even before the fire when there was a wind event in the area that could have prevented or saved more lives or prevented that fire from starting in the first place. Thats one. Two, the response during it of course. Theres going to be an Attorney General investigation based in the state. It will be wide ranging. Evidence could be collected. The goal to find out what was the response from officials here on the ground, why didnt the sirens go off and much more that weve been reporting about. And third, what could happen after, well after this fire. Theres a lot of fear on this island about the possibility and you heard the term land grab that realtors will be contacting people, buying up property, and that the price will drive out the native population here. The most striking thing ive heard is that maui will turn into malibu, that lahaina will turn into waikiki and that it will price out people so dramatically that they wont have a chance. Theyre already struggling in many cases on this island as it is. We learned the president , the first lady are going to visit on monday. Heres what the president said yesterday about why he hasnt gone sooner. I dont want to get in the way. Ive been to too many disaster areas, but i want to go, make sure we got everything they need. All that area theyve got to plow up. They cant do it now. Whats the reaction to this back and forth on the timing of when the president will visit . Reporter ill be transparent about the announcement, its coming as its still 4 00 in the morning, i havent had a chance to directly address this with people here. I will say there is just sort of broad i would say disillusion with the government, with the county government, with the state government, and certainly with the federal government that although resources are now flowing in that fema is assisting, that housing is being provided to citizens, that food and fuel and water and shelter is being provided and certainly that its flowing through the government and that people welcome that aid that in the first early hours of this fire and broadly the next few days after it, a lot of people say that this simply wasnt there. So i think people are hearing about the possibility of a president ial visit. You know, certainly before the announcement was made, and i think the reaction was they want to know why is it purely for the optics of it or are people here to help them. And then also, will that clog up the aid . I mean, when the president comes in, that is a long caravan. It shuts down traffic. 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Trump according to the real clear politics average of polls over the last month or so. A year ago he was up 28 points. That lead shrunk as ron desantis started making some momentum, but today its up to 40 points. These were generally polls taken before the fourth indictment, but two trends im tracking here. One is the electability conversation. Among republicans who say that trump is the best candidate from their party, that number is growing. 56 up a few points from april, but independents, maybe those key swing voters that hell be targeting in a General Election, the number is falling so the recent headlines might be playing a role here. The other thing were tracking, republican fervor, are they excited about trump the way they used to be . 53 of republicans polled in an online ugov survey recently this past weekend have a very favorable view of the president , former president , up 11 points since december. Compared to where we were election day 2020, that was 75 . After january 6th it was still at 65 , so what are we seeing . Fewer Republican Voters have a very favorable view of the former president. What does it mean . Maybe theres a door open for some of his Top Competitors to step in if they decide to barge through that door, they could make the electability argument. Good to have you here, thank you. Lets bring in former republican congressman from florida Carlos Curbelo and former adviser to the 2020 Biden Campaign, alencia johnson. Congressman, first your read on what we just heard . Well, when you listen to mike pence, a lot of republicans might think that thats a losing strategy, but in reality, ana, that is the only hope that anyone has of defeating donald trump if you are a republican candidate in this race to win, you cannot do that from within the shadow of Donald Trumps lies. You have to go out there and Tell The Truth and hope that you can convince enough republican primary voters that youre right and that donald trump is being dishonest. It is a risky strategy, but it really seems like its the only strategy that could work out for someone whos trying to defeat donald trump. Those who are propping up Donald Trumps lies in the republican field, theyre just making him stronger, and theyre making it less likely that they will come out on top. Alencia, if trump is getting strong we are republicans, how does the Biden Campaign respond . Well, im paying attention to that independent numbers as well as those swing voters who are tired of the indictments and the conversations around donald trump and they want to move on. For the Biden Campaign, i would advise them to continue to speak to those voters, continue to speak to those General Election voters who want to hear about the policies and plans for the economy, who want to move forward away from donald trump and actually want to strengthen democracy, not undermine democracy, and so there was reporting i have talked to voters particularly in georgia. I would credit some of that to and i dont give a lot of credit to republicans, but i would credit that to the posture that Governor Kemp took and the fact that he is not siding with donald trump, and he is deductibledoubling down that the election was decided for joe biden. That is what independents want to hear going into the General Election. Congressman, lets zoom in on georgia. The Wall Street Journal calls georgia ground zero for trump exhaustion. Heres what were hearing from one former trump voter in georgia on his frustration with the former president. Now that hes running for a third time, is there a world where you could see yourself supporting him again despite this . Absolutely not. The comments coming out of his mouth are just degrading to women, degrading to minorities. I just couldnt vote for him based on his actions. Congressman, what does that tell you . Ana, that interview puts a spotlight on the trump trap, donald trump is very popular among Republican Voters, Republican Voters buy his victimhood narrative. However, General Election voters, Swing District voters, swing state voters, they are tired of donald trump. Thats why democrats and joe biden, the best thing that could happen to them politically is for donald trump to be the republican nominee. That is probably the candidate that joe biden would have the easiest time defeating because the Trump Movement has been defeated in General Elections three times in a row now, 2018 when republicans were swept out of the house and lost control, 2020 when donald trump lost and 2022 when donald trump decided to make joe bidens Midterm Election a referendum on him and in swing states all over the country, voters rejected him and his movement. Alencia, this is georgia, and as weve seen before, this is a state that could decide which party is in power, which party wins the white house and other races. For voters here, i have to think whats happening in Fulton County, this case has got to feel more personal. Do you think it has potential to move the needle if trump ends up the gop nominee . One thing ive learn in all of my campaigning and advocacy is that georgia voters understand their power, and they have understood that growing power oaf the last cycles, and they are paying attention to the local media there, the ajc and all the local news media there because they trust what is happening. They trust their local governments to litigate this case in the way it should be. I do think this will have an impact on the way in which they view donald trump, they view the republican party, and how it might potentially galvanize them to show up in 2024 and continue to say that georgia should be taken seriously by both parties and it is the pathway to the white house. Alencia johnson and former congressman Carlos Curbelo, thank you both so much. I appreciate your perspectives. Up next here on ana cabrera reports, north korea now confirming for the first time that u. S. Soldier travis king is in their custody. What it means for getting him home. 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Lets go to nbc news Foreign Correspondent matt bradley. Matt, do we know what this means for efforts to get king back to the u. S. . Yeah, ana, theres no way to predict this kind of thing. This was really the missing piece, though. This is a big deal. Four weeks after he dashed across the border, north korea has finally acknowledged that they even have private king, ask we heard from the pentagon that theyre focused on private kings safe return. It sounds like regardless of the circumstances of his running across the border. This gives us a tiny glimpse of what we might be able to expect. The north koreans have said their investigation into king is continuing, and the north korean experts that ive been speaking to, the north korea experts ive been speaking to say this investigation period, right now, that this is a crucial moment because the best that king can hope for if he hopes to return to the states soon is that the north koreans investigate him and determine that hes somehow not useful to them or hes a liability for them. For example, if they decide that hes mentally unstable. Then they could just deport him immediately, and thats whats happened in the past with some similar cases. The problem is were seeing from this statement that king might be giving the north koreans an irresistible Propaganda Offering by saying that hes going to complain about the states. Matt, what are we hearing from kings family . Yeah, well, obviously this was a huge relief for them, but theyre still worried. We heard a statement from kings family, they said that kings mother, who lost a child back in the 1990s, that she remains concerned about her son and she would like a phone call are from him. The family also mentioned that king is now the north koreans responsibility and they expect him to be treated humanely. Im sure they are so desperate to hear from him directly. Matt bradley thank you for that reporting. Back here in the u. S. , this morning a teenager philadelphia is under arrest and facing terrorism charges. The 17yearold stands accused of planning a National Terrorist attack. Authorities allege he was radicalized online and was Buying Materials and searching for potential targets. Joining us now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, what more are we learning about this suspect and his alleged plans . Good morning, ana. Authorities havent disclosed specific targets or plans, but they say that they believe they prevent what could have been a catastrophic terrorist attack. The philadelphia d. A. Said this was the most serious Terrorist Activity prosecuted in this city in recent memory. Heres more. An fbi Tactical Team Raiding A Home in west philadelphia, arresting a 17yearold resident on terrorism charges. The young man whos under arrest is, was an aspiring terrorist who was not are deepl presented a grave danger to everyone. Reporter jacqueline maguire, who once investigated the 9 11 attacks, and now heads the fbis philadelphia office, said the suspect was sending and receiving terrorist propaganda and instructions, including guidance on how to build a bomb. The individual appeared to be taking steps to travel overseas for the purpose of joining or supporting Terrorist Activity. Most concerning, however, was the evidence that he had access to firearms and purchased items and materials commonly used in the construction of improvised explosive devices. Some of these purchases had just occurred in the last few weeks. Reporter these purchases quickly escalated this case in the threat and priority for our office. And this was now a situation where we believe Public Safety was at risk, so we quickly took appropriate steps to mitigate that risk. Reporter the suspect has been charged under state law. Hes currently charged with the following offenses. Weapons of mass destruction, criminal conspiracy, arson, causing or risking catastrophe, attempt to commit criminal mischief, possession of an instrument of crime and Reckless Endangerment of another person. Reporter fbi Officials Say the teen had become radicalized online. This individual had communicated with ktj, which was designated as a Global Terrorist Group by the United States government in 2022 and is affiliated with al qaeda. Reporter intelligence Officials Say the threat from International Terrorism has greatly diminished in recent years. But it hasnt gone away. I think it is fair to say that any terrorist Group Overseas still has its sights on america and it would be easiest to conduct that by radicalizing those already inside the country. Reporter Officials Say the investigation is ongoing, and the teen remains in custody. In the last few hours, it has emerged that this 17yearold is the son of a prominent Criminal Defense Attorney in philadelphia who actually ran for judge and lost. That person has told local news outlets that it was his son who was arrested, but that suspect is still not being named by authorities. Ana . Hes a minor obviously. Thats interesting. Ken dilanian, thank you so much. 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But the tuohy family is flipping the script. In a statement to nbc news, their attorney alleges oher previously threatened them in an attempted shakedown, saying he would plant a negative story about them in the press unless they paid him 15 million. In an interview monday, promoting his new book oher did not address the lawsuit but addressed some frustration with how he was portrayed. When i moved in with the tuohys family, who im grateful for for letting me stay my senior year there, but you have to understand and i was an all american Football Player before i moved in with them. Do you want to stay here, michael . Reporter as the film depicts, oher describes in Court Documents how he was on his own in high school and nearly penny also. He says in 2004, before his senior year, the tuohys invited him to live with them, eventually discussing adoption. Oher claims he was tricked into signing documents he believed were a necessary step in the adoption process. But just six months ago, he says he learned he was never adopted, and instead sean and Leigh Anne Tuohy became his conservators. The conservatorship was a way to secure ohers ncaa eligibility to play college football, saying lawyers advised we couldnt adopt over the age of 18. The only thing we could do was to have a conservatorship. Oher claims constituties used their power to give away the right to his life story without him receiving any payment while they profits. Now he wants the money he believes hes owed. The family denies the accusations. How come were not eating at one of your restaurants tonight . Because tonight is a special occasion. Reporter sean tuohy built and sold a successful restaurant empire, his attorney saying the notion that a couple worth hundreds of millions of dollars would connive to withhold payments from anyone, let alone from someone they loved as a son defies belief. His attorney tells nbc news they believe justice will be served in the courtroom and hope to get there quickly, the tuohys said they will never oppose Ending Conservatorship if thats what oher wants and hopes to reconcile with him, but still they will fight what they call an offensive lawsuit. Back to you. Kaylee hartung, thanks. So disappointing, right . I love that, that story. It is so inspiring. Well, well stay on that. Thank you. Thats going to do it for us today. Well see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. Really appreciate your company. For now, im Ana Cabrera Reporting from new york. Jose diazbalart picks up our coverage right now. Good morning. 11 00 a. M. Eastern, 8 00 a. M. Pacific. Im jose diazbalart. New this morning, President Biden will head to maui on monday as a number of People Killed in the devastating wildfires rises to 106. Search dogs and rescuers desperately scouring the rubble for the missing. It is the worst thing ive ever seen. This is apocalyptic. It is terrible. And it moves so fast. People couldnt get out of the way. Right now, in atlanta, all eyes are on the jail where former President Donald Trump and his 18 codefendants will turn themselves in on racketeering charges, accused of trying to change the outcome of the 2020 election. Were learning more about what that may look like