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And the tourists still trying to evacuate. Also ahead, lawyers for donald trump just arriving for a high stakes hearing in the Election Interference Case. How much will trump be allowed to discuss publicly and could that trial begin as soon as january . It is 10 00 eastern, thanks for being with us on this friday, im Ana Cabrera Reporting from new york, and we begin with the staggering death toll from the wildfires in hawaii. Authorities on maui revealing overnight at least 55 people have died in those fires, and by one account, up to a thousand remain missing. Communications on the island remain difficult making it hard to confirm who is safe and mauis mayor says intense Search And Rescue efforts are still underway. Search in the interior of the buildings. Were waiting for fema to help with that search, as they are equipped to handle the Hazmat Conditions of the buildings that have been burned. Shelters on the island are full of residents who have now lost everything, along with tourists still trying to evacuate. At this moment an afternoon the clock effort continues to battle six active fires on maui, including The Lahaina Fire that caused such heartbreaking destruction. Its worth underscoring again what we said at the top, these fires are now the second deadliest in modern u. S. History. In just a moment, ill talk with Speedy Bailey Of Hawaii Life Flight about the Rescue Efforts, but lets start with nbc news correspondent dana griffin, what are you hearing from those impacted . Reporter ana, i can tell you the people here are so resilient, many have lost everything, but they are Still Holding on to hope and really embodying a sense of gratitude. Right now on maui, the community is coming together to help those that have been devastated by these fires. Behind me at the maui evacuation center, hundreds once again slept here overnight, many have had their lives upended and some barely made it out alive. This was the horrifying scene just steps from sam youngers beach front home. Sam, his wife josey and their two dogs escaping with seconds to spare, as the inferno engulfed their neighborhood turning it into ash. It was devastating. It was unspeakable, unthinkable really just seeing what was going on, the destruction, all the people. Reporter this popular tourist town once rich in beauty and culture now gutted. Many residents left with scars physical and emotional as they fled in terror. Its like an apocalypse. Reporter as walls of flames surrounded mike jacinos home he and his wife had to dive into the water to escape getting burned. And the current was pulling us out. You cant see anything. Theres at one point we have fire on us, and we dont know where land is. Reporter finally making it back to shore, they desperately search for their missing dogs. Then heard the cries of their neighbors. It was like every ten feet it was help, help. And i helped as many people as i possibly could, but i couldnt go any further because theres too much heat. Reporter while thousands have been evacuated as the street burned, surf instructor lisa refused to leave instead rescuing others from their homes. We ran into a burning building. We rescued two kids, got them safe to their mom. Reporter residents of this sacred land now helping each other recover. Churches and shelters offering the displaced free clothes, food, and a safe place to sleep. Take a lot of work and a lot of years and a lot of manpower, but i have no doubt that it will bounce back. Reporter and that is kind of the sentiment were hearing from a lot of people, ana. They say that it is likely going to take several years and cost at least A Billion Dollars to rebuild, but they say, hey, maui is resilient, and theyre looking forward to seeing what it will look like in the years to come. Such Beautiful People and a beautiful place, its absolutely heartbreaking to see all those images. Dana griffin, thank you, please stay with us as i bring in speedy now. We just heard some really harrowing stories of the people who had in some cases just minutes to flee. I know you are a regional director of an air ambulance company. How would you describe what youre witnessing and experiencing right now . Thank you. Just to be clear, im the regional director for not only the air ambulance company, but importantly American Medical Response, and were the Ambulance Services that were on the ground during this event. Oh, my gosh. We provide services to maui county and have for some 45 years, and i want to say this is truly very sad from every perspective, the iconic town and maui. Our teams were truly heroes, ana. They worked tirelessly through the night alongside police and fire and other rescue workers. You heard some of the stories starting at about 5 00 p. M. On the 8th, we started to get word that the brush fires were coming into the communities, so all told, we transported about 30 patients in about 12 hours to Maui Memorial hospital. And im sure im sure so traumatic for those rescuers to be seeing and having to experience the conditions that the firefighters were battling and seeing people who were in need of help. What sort of conditions did they find the people in that theyve now flown and had to have med evacs . Well, the conditions as you can see on the video were horrific. There were high winds that made the fires and moving and working in that area dangerous not only to everybody but including the rescuers. So they had to dodge and work within those conditions, but during that period, we transported well, we transported 30 patients to the hospital with burns. Four of them were Critical Burns that had to be evacuated by life flight, our sister company, and again, this was all done within a 12hour period. There were eight transports off of maui to tertiary medical centers in honolulu and four of them were Critical Burns. Those air teams and ground teams worked tirelessly, as i mentioned, and they did their work. They do what ems does. Im very proud of that. While people were sleeping, they were working through the night. Wow. True, true heroes. Are Rescue Efforts still underway . Rescue efforts are still underway. Theyre still looking for missing people. We fear that the death count could rise, so there are Search And Rescue teams that are still in the area. As far as American Medical Response on the ground, were working with all the agencies, but were doing a lot of triage at some of the shelters. People are needing their medications. People are needing dialysis and all those services are being the community has come together. Im sure. With all the medical professionals on the island and even from outside that were part of that team. Yep. And were doing what we can do to assist and refer them to the care they need. In tragedies like this we see so much strength and courage and the best of humanity come out. Weve seen your video freeze a little bit during the course of our conversation, and i know power and communications have been out for much of the last few days. What are the Biggest Challenges youre facing right now . Well, always in every disaster, communications is one of the keys, and without cell phone coverage, this is hampering a lot of the efforts to find people, communicate. So during the event, you know, the radio system we had to rely on, and were shoring that up as we speak to make sure that we have we tighten up the Communications Link with the stadium s office here, but yes, getting supplies, we were able to airlift with our own aircraft the supplies that our crews needed within less than 24 hours, so they have the supplies and medicines that they need, but this is going to be a longer term event, and were working with all agencies to try to get, you know, the care to the folks that need it. And well be part of that team. Well, bust of luck to you, speedy bailey, thank you so much for taking the time. My heart is with you and your community, and thanks to day na dana griffin continuing to report from ground zero here in hawaii with the second deadliest wildfire in modern u. S. History, and then the fear that the death toll could still climb from the 55 confirmed deaths we have right now. Much more coverage out of hawaii later this hour, including the effort to evacuate tourists from the island. The ceo of Hawaiian Airlines will join us to talk about how theyre helping. And were also staying on top of a hearing happening right now, Donald Trumps legal team facetoface with the judge overseeing the Special Counsels Election Interference Case in washington, d. C. , the legal restrictions that could be placed on the former president. Plus, new details about the fbis deadly shooting of a man who allegedly threatened President Biden and other elected officials. Ahead, the surprising tip that led investigators to him. Were back in just 60 seconds. S. Age is just a number, and mines unlisted. Try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for Muscle Health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. Boost® high protein. 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Com tv happening right now, the federal judge overseeing the 2020 Election Interference Case against former President Trump is Hearing Arguments from both the Special Counsels team and trumps lawyers to determine what exactly the expresident is allowed to say publicly about evidence in the case. And prosecutors have also proposed a start date for the trial right after the new year. On january 2nd, thats what they want the trial to be. They think it should take about four to six weeks, which could take trump out of the Campaign Sprint right before the iowa caucus. Joining us now is nbc news investigative Correspondent Tom Winter along with Veteran Prosecutor and Trial Attorney Paul Henderson. Tom, what are we watching at this hearing . Right, so our colleague Daniel Barnes is sending us some note from this hearing and apparently the judge just said mr. Trump like every american has a First Amendment right to free speech, but that right is not absolute. She says, and were paraphra paraphrasing, imposed at arraignment, the former president had to sign some of those conditions about a week ago when he was before the court, and she says without a protective order on disclosure of discovery materials could lead to witnesses being harassed or otherwise interfere with a fair trial. So thats what shes discussing at this point. The hearing began at approximately 10 01 this morning, and apparently they are hoping to or the judge is hoping to make a decision on this perhaps as soon as today. It doesnt sound like shes going to rule from the bench. Shell put an order onto the court document. We do anticipate getting some resolution on this today on this issue of the protective order. Back to your original point, and when we were starting off here, its about two things. Sounds look the judge is starting to address the president s the former president s ability to speak publicly about this case as well as the idea of the protective order, what types of things from evidence the former president can talk about. So trump in his Legal Defense team will get the discovery and will get the evidence that the government intends to present at their case, what prosecutors intend to bring up whenever this trail may happen. Theyll get any sort of information that might be beneficial for the former president at that time. Protective orders, i dont think ive ever done a report on a protective order, but it just shows how much attention is being paid to this case, but it also shows the idea that both sides have really dug in here and are litigating all the finer points. Federal prosecutors want to be able to show their evidence at the time and place of their choosing and the manner of their choosing. The defense, this is not uncommon, by the way, perhaps want to put some information out and raise some points about some of the things that are in this indictment. For instance, the cheeseboro memos, if you look at those, the New York Times has published them, the one on the 6th, it paints a certain picture. If you look at the one on the 9th. And cheeseboro we believe is one of the coconspirators, but unnamed. Thats just one example. I think thats going to be something that both sides are clearly fighting hard over and well continue to get updates. It doesnt sound like at this point the prosecutors are asking for a full gag order. Theyre not trying to stop the former president from speaking, which is important to underscore, but they do want to protect potential witnesses from being compromised or any kind of intimidation from happening here. Exactly. So paul, if you remember in a rally just a couple of days ago, trump was talking about this proposed protective order, and he said, quote, i will talk about it. I will. Theyre not taking away my First Amendment rights. Is that a comment the judge will take into consideration as she hears these arguments . It is, and i believe thats absolutely why she started with his First Amendment right. She was making it very clear that First Amendment rights are not absolute, and First Amendment rights are balanced when there are criminal trials every single day, especially when those comments, those words have an effect, an illegal effect. So you dont have absolute First Amendment rights anyway. The fact that he is talking about it publicly, i believe, its encouraging to me that the judge is paying attention to what prosecutors are filing and talking about the issues that theyve raised in a legal context in preparation for her decision that i believe is going to affirm the protective orders in ways that is more similar to what the prosecution is arguing, especially in a case like this. Again, these issues that were talking about with protective orders take place in every single criminal case. They are more especially prevalent when we have a grand jury and a case coming from a grand jury because in the case and even in this case in particular where you have elected officials, you have official documents, you have privileged conversations and protected witnesses, and we know that trump has attacked witnesses in the past, made their information public. This isnt something new or speculative. Weve seen behavior like this where people that are doing their everyday jobs, and not just civilians, so in a case like this, he has attacked investigators and agencies as well. So if theres information from the cia, if theres information from the fbi, thats not a bar for him to make public statements to denigrate those individuals and those agencies. These are all the reasons why these arguments are so important and this ruling is so important, but its also another indication of just how trump is going to attack his case as his defense and try and raise every issue that he can to delay, to obstruct, to derail the prosecution thats taking place, but this is almost a nobrainer and i would be very surprised if the judge rules in another way that doesnt protect and affirm the protective order as affirmed by the prosecution in this case. The thing that makes it more complicated, i suppose, is the fact that this is a defendant who is running for president and is in the middle of a campaign and is, in fact, the leading gop nominee front runner right now. I want to bring in former federal prosecutor brandon fox as well to this conversation. Brandon, trumps already pushed the envelope more than just about any other defendant. Hes posted sometimes threatening content on his social media. Hes railed against the justice department, the Special Counsel, even some judges involved at almost every rally he goes to, he seems to have no interest in abiding by any protective order imposed. So if youre the judge, how do you handle a defendant like this . And this goes back to some of what paul was talking about. This protective order is more about a fair trial and more act protecting witnesses than it would be about sensitive information. Typically youre talking about bank records, grand jury transcripts that you dont want to leak because theres an ongoing investigation, which may be the case. Really this is about not wanting mr. Trump to be intimidating witnesses. Not wanting him to be out there potentially making it so the jury pool is not considering the evidence and considering other things. The judge really this is a good early test for her to see if shes going to treat mr. Trump like any other defendants. What does she do at that point. Thats the question. What does she do . I hate to speculate on anything like this, but for any other defendant, what would happen is there would be a warning. There would be an admonishment. Shed bring in the defendant ask questions, what did you mean by these social media posts. And from there her options are to restrict his conditions of release, and at some point down the road have to make a decision if theyre not going to abide is this person entitled to be out on release pending trial. And you have more Reporting Coing from the courtroom, tom . Thats right. One of the lead prosecutors for the Special Counsels team is making the case or trying to make the case that all discovery in this case should be protected and so that former president and his attorneys should not be able to put any of it out into the mainstream, into the public. The judge is challenging that saying what about just certain sensitive pieces of discovery, shouldnt that be restricted. Theyre making the argument, according to barnes, that the defendants proposal, that would be trump is specifically tailored to permit them to try this in the media. The defense asking for the courts blessing to use criminal discovery for political purposes. Thats what were hearing from the lead prosecutor for jack smiths team. Im so glad you have this reporting that you can bring us because we cant see inside the courtroom. I mean, the federal cases dont allow cameras in court, so were forced to have to do this game of notes and reporting out on air. Brandon, lets pivot and talk about the trial schedule. As we mentioned, the Special Counsels office wants the trial to start january 2nd. They believe it could last four to six weeks. Does this sound realistic to you . Yeah, that seems like its the right length of a trial. Now, they said thats for the prosecutions case. I would expect that would be for the overall case. I thought what was the most interesting part about the january 2nd pick they have, well see if the judge orders it, is it says forget about the defamation case, its the end of january. This case is more important. And it is really jack smiths Office Big Footing A Little Bit saying this case is the most important thing and the civil case can fall to the side that is set at the end of january. I do think you actually can fit this in. Four to six weeks is a realistic expectation for how long this trial would go. It is in everybodys interest for this case to go first before the voters have to decide who the republican nominee will be and into the general election. See, its simple enough if youre looking at just one case and one trial, but as we just showed with that graphic, there is a lot on trumps plate, and he was quick to post on his social media called the proposed schedule, quote, Election Interference because this timing keeps him off the Campaign Trail, at least in part. The iowa caucus is on january 15th, you have another e. Jean carroll defamation trial. Hes back in court to face Class Action Lawsuit for business, fraud allegations there on january 29th. New hampshires primary right around then, then its on to super tuesday on march 5th. So you can see how backed up everything is. Paul, what does all that mean for scheduling this trial at any point . Yeah, i think what youre going to see is a wave of these charges and indictments overtaking the Campaign Trail that hes on, and this is before we start having an indepth conversation about whats happening in georgia, and that fourth indictment that were expecting. And the reason that that one, i think, is going to be the one to watch in all of this because it is the disrupter, they are making no accommodations in coordination with the federal charges, and that means hes going to be treated differently in the court. They expect him to have a mug shot and go through regular criminal processes. Theyre not giving him federal accommodations as hes experiencing in other cases. These will be all new charges. The other interesting thing is that some of that evidence from the georgia case that involved the Secretary Of State will be part of the federal charges that hes facing right now. And remember, these are state charges, so theres no pardon thats possible regardless of whether or not he becomes the ultimate nominee and even if he ultimately wins the presidency in the future as well. I think all of these things are going to overwhelm his candidacy. I think all of these things are going to interrupt the run that hes making and soon theres going to be a shift into these mounting hearings, mounting decisions, and mounting sentences is what its looking like where were headed thats got to overwhelm what hes trying to do as a candidate. I think thats just the reality. Again, none of this prevents him from running. None of this prevents him from potentially winning if he has the votes. I think its going to be a real distraction not just to him but to the public as well that is watching all of this to see that day after day beyond just what hes saying on the Campaign Trail, there are legal repercussions and legal obligations from him and his team. Thats what i think is going to happen. This is a historic moment we are in right now. All of you, thank you, tom winter, brandon fox, Paul Henderson, i appreciate you. Happy friday. Now to an nbc news exclusive on the investigation into President Bidens handling of classified documents. We are Learning Attorneys for President Biden are in talks with the Special Counsel in that case about a potential interview with the president. Now, as a reminder, this investigation, this Special Counsel all completely separate from the case involving former president donald trump. Lets get right to nbcs monica alba who broke this story. What do we know about these conversations and a potential interview . Reporter well, the negotiations here is really the new and interesting part of this phase of the investigation. It is something that the president s advisers expected when asked by the Special Counsel for an interview that he would cooperate if the conditions can be met to do that felt so that is now where the conversations are taking place according to two people familiar with the matter who tell myself and carol lee, this new development about conversations about how this would take place, where, what the scope of the questions would be, and those specifics really do matter in an interview with the Special Counsel for a sitting u. S. President. So his team of attorneys have been going back and forth, we know, for about a month now as i mentioned, which does signal that there is some ongoing discussion about a lot of those key points. We know that the classified documents that were recovered from an old office that the president had many washington, d. C. , and later from his private home in wilmington, delaware, a lot of them dealt with his time as Vice President , but some of them related to his time as a u. S. Senator as well so the biden team wants to know, for instance, would the scope of questions include all of those decades of Public Service if things were founded related to both, or if this is more limited to those documents from the Obama Administration era. Many questions still about where this goes from here. A couple of months ago, we were able to report exclusively that these talks hadnt started and so it didnt show any signs of wrapping up imminently. Again, now that the talks have started to take place, it suggests this would be a very big key final piece before any kind of probe is wrapped up. Again, the biden team has pledged to cooperate fully with this. They have pointed out many times when those documents were found they were handed over to the federal government unlike in the case of former President Trump and his mishandling of those classified documents that of course hes been indicted on now in dozens of charges he is facing even though he has pleaded not guilty to that. Thank you for the update in that special investigation. On ana cabrera reports, the trip from truth social about posts threatening President Biden. Plus, what iran gains from a deal that secures the release of five american prisoners. S. Takid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. For one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. Have fun, sis cant stop adding stuff to your cart . Get the Bank Of America customized cash rewards card, choose the Online Shopping category and earn 3 cash back. 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New details this morning about that fatal fbi shooting in utah when the fbi came to arrest Craig Robertson for threatening to assassinate President Biden, Vice President harris, and other officials. Robertson was armed, a senior Law Enforcement official tells nbc news, and he pointed his weapon at federal agents and did not comply with their commands. This video recorded at the scene early wednesday. Robertson was shot and killed inside an entry of his provo home nbc has learned. Not far from where President Biden was expected to arrive hours later. Ultimately, there was a threat posed to an agent. An agent fired back. Reporter the 75yearold wood worker displayed his cache of weapons and graphic talk about Violent Attacks online. A Law Enforcement source says former President Trumps Social Media Platform Truth social alerted authorities in march about the alarming nature of robertsons threatening comments. Truth social has not responded to nbcs news requests for comment. On his accounts robertson declared himself a maga trumper, and described part of his arsenal as a democrat eradicator. That was Kelly Odonnell reporting, our thanks to kelly. Were going to stay on top of that story. And we are also tracking new developments in the planned Prisoner Exchange between the u. S. And iran. Five american prisoners have now been placed under house arrest in tehran. Were told this is the first step toward their eventual release. In exchange, the u. S. Will release around 6 billion in iranian government assets, which have been blocked by u. S. Sanctions according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter. And they stress that this money can only be used for food, medicine, and other humanitarian needs. But the deals already facing pushback with some republicans calling It Appeasement by the Biden Administration. Lets bring in peter baker, hes chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times. We know this deal isnt complete just yet, and so of course Biden Administrations being very careful about what theyre commenting on it. What else are you learning about how this came to be and how its going to move forward . Well, its been an intricate diplomacy up until now. Its involved multiple countries including south korea, which is actually holding the oil money that were talking about here. The country of which is going to hold the money once the south koreans transfer it to them, switzerland, oman, american officials went to oman to have indirect conversations in order to negotiate this. The sultan of oman directly engaged on this. Its been a remarkable few months of Quiet Diplomacy outside of the public eye, and it has arranged for these five individuals, some of whom have been held for many years, so far theyre not out of iran. Theyve been released from the notorious evin prison. Theyre in a hotel under guard. This money has been transferred where iran will have access to it for humanitarian purposes. Money is all fungible, what they use for humanitarian purposes now could be used for something else. Those five would then get on a plane hopefully in a few weeks and leave the country for good. I can only imagine how their families are feeling right now and the optimism, hope that they have about reuniting with those five americans. Talk to us about, again, the complicated u. S. iran relationship. You talked about just how many Different Countries and entities are involved in a deal like this. Is this type of deal really the only way to get things done with iran . Well, at this point, yes. The talks that the United States had led in order to create a new Nuclear Agreement with iran basically broke down last year. There was an interesting side note in this current story, which is that there have been informal discussions about maybe an informal agreement on the side about this nuclear issue, for instance, not that they would go back into the full agreement that a negotiator originally under the Obama Administration and withdrawn from by the trump administration, but maybe had this sort of informal agreement where the iranians cap the level of enrichment that they do of uranium, and the United States wouldnt impose new sanctions to kind of keep things in a status quo situation. Its not very satisfying probably to either side but would have avoid an escalation of hostilities in the nearterm. Well see if that goes anywhere. The president had to know hes going to get some political blowback, at least from the other side of the aisle here at home, and yet still moving forward. They think this is the best option. Well, they do. It obviously does raise questions, you know, allowing iran access to its own money. Its its own oil money that has been frozen. It automatically raises the question of whether were paying ransom money for hostages. Thats what mike pence said yesterday, the largest Ransom Payment ever paid to tehran for hostages, and the question is whether that sets a precedent that other countries will take heed of we have americans currently being held in china, currently held in russia. What will that mean for their fate . Could the Biden Administration decide a long time ago that fears of blowback in these kind of negotiations were overwrought and theyre better off making negotiations, making deals where they can, and getting people who have been held for years in terrible circumstances out of those prisons and out of those hostile countries and back home. Having people come home is always a good thing. Thank you so much, peter baker for joining us. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. Up next here on ana cabrera reports, escaping the horror in hawaii, thousands have already fled, thousands more are waiting as airlines scramble to add more flights. Its just scary to see a Big Wild Fair Fire just kind of coming your way. I think everybodys feeling good they got to the airport and theres food. There was no food on the island. Ill talk to the president and ceo of of Hawaiian Airlines next about how theyre trying to help. Try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for Muscle Health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. Boost® high protein. Now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. Learn more at boost. Com tv i gotta good feeling about this, yeah now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. Im with it i gotta good feeling about this yeah, so lets get it im feeling good vibes trying vapes to quit smoking might feel like progress, but with 3x more nicotine than a pack of cigarettes vapes Increase Cravings trapping you in an endless craving loop. 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Reporter thousands of passengers are just trying to get home. People are getting delayed. People are getting canceled. Baggage claims is a mess, its all over the place. Reporter many still stranded in mauis airport processing the devastation they managed to escape. Its just scary to see a big wildfire just kind of coming your way, and its not something i ever experienced before. We jumped out of the car and ran as fast as we could and got out. Reporter Amy Springsteen is headed home to oregon, she says this is whats left of her maui rental car. She along with some others in her party were going to dinner when she says flames leapt onto the street. There was debris everywhere, Fire Falling Down on top of us, but we got out safe. So far more than 20,000 passengers have fled the island since the fires began, thousands are still waiting. I think everybody feels safe that theyve gotten into the airport and theres food because there was no food on the island. A lot of the seats are full, a lot of people standing around waiting for their flights. Many travelers will still call the airport home. As airlines scramble to add extra flights to get them out. American Airlines Even upgraded a plane headed to los angeles with extra seats on southwest and Hawaiian Airlines, websites showing available flights from maui to honolulu for 19, and United Airlines saying theyve canceled all inbound flights so empty planes can be used to get passengers back to the mainland. Steve patterson with that reporting, thank you, and joining us now is peter ingram, president and ceo of Hawaiian Airlines, i can imagine youre a very, very busy american. Thank you for taking a few minutes of your day with us. Your airline has been flying empty planes. Lets start with whats your sense of how many people have been waiting evacuation flights, and what has this process been like . Well, its been a very daytoday process, and, you know, were really dont have great information about how many people are still coming, so weve really been treating it as how much capacity can we put in the air. Weve added extra flights yesterday. Weve got extra flights ready to go today. Were going to operate that schedule and were prepared to add extra flights through the weekend as we see how many people are still coming from the hotels near lahaina that dont have power and people need to get out and get back to honolulu first and then to the mainland. Right, and thats one added complication in terms of location here is the, you know, multiple stops sometimes for people to make their way home. We have to imagine the people getting on those flights have a lot of trauma. What are your crew members hearing from them . Well, i was able to go over to maui yesterday and visit with some of our teammates, and i think many of the guests who have arrived at the airport, particularly the people who have arrived on buss from those affected areas, theyre just so relieved to get somewhere where theres power, where theres running water, where they can get a bite to eat, that theyre really grateful, and i know our teammates are very worried about their community, many of them have Family Members who have lost properties, Close Friends that they havent been able to get in touch with yet, but theyre really just trying to extend our hawaiian hospitality to the guests that we know need to get on their way and get off of maui and people are really focused on just taking care of that mission. Wow, i read you have about 500 employees who call maui home, and to think that theyre trying to plow through and work and take care of others during what must be a very difficult time is so admirable and inspirational. 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Now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. Learn more at boost. Com tv back to our Breaking News from earlier this hour. The hearing in the protective order case dealing with the protective order in the case of trumps Election Interference and the judge just ruling that the protective order will only apply to sensitive materials and not to all discovery in this case. So what does that mean . Lets bring back our Veteran Prosecutor Paul Henderson to help us understand this. Paul, what does this signal to you . That signals that it is a win for prosecution because prosecution will still be targeting and identifying the information before it is turned over as to what is going to be sensitive. And i think thats what they were asking for from the beginning. This is a blow to the trump defense. This is a blow to the slowdown of the protective order being used as a wedge to try and delay, obstruct or derail the prosecutions case. And so what we will see is process, i predict trump and his team will be fighting on these determinations, but the way that the judge is ruling in allowing prosecution to evaluate the evidence in a case by case basis when it gets turned over is a definite win for the prosecution. And really what the judge is concerned about and what prosecutors are concerned about is making sure that protective documents that are being turned over to trump are not misused and have other purposes. Theyre not tainting witnesses that should not have access to information that they should not have that need to be used in the case. There is sensitive evidence that does not need to be made or brought to the public. For instance, if there are operational types of information that dont need to be disclosed as to operations within the white house, or Public Safety reasons, for example, thats not the kind of information in the trump team can go about to denigrate the case or the information itself. And not for nothing, but i think one of the biggest risks here we havent talked about heretofore is the influence on trying to taint or pollute the jury pool and that is absolutely one of the things trump is trying to do with this issue. So this is a win for prosecutors and this is what i expected and how i expected her to rule. In fact, there was a quote from the courtroom prosecutors saying the governments aim here is to prevent the use of any material produced in discovery for harming the jury pool. To your point, you were just saying that would make sense. Of course, it makes sense. And were told that the judge is going line by line in terms of what is asked by prosecutors in limiting the scope of who may have access to the evidence, who would normally have access to these quote, unquote sensitive materials . Normally it is just the lawyers on the other side. In a case like this where we have seen specifically over the past week when the indictment came out, it wasnt just the lawyers talking about it. Although they spoke about it in an inappropriate way. We saw them all over the news almost talking line by line about the indictment. Beyond that, we saw trump himself, the defendant in this case, with access to the information and not just access to it, but disseminating the information publicly. And he has a broad platform that has to be a consideration for prosecutors, that has to be one of the big considerations for the judge. What have they done with the Indictment Information before they even get the specifics of the discovery against him. Thats a big deal. And this is a problem for the case, thats why shes ruling in the way that she is ruling. Again, this is a win for prosecutors. The only issue now, though, is im concerned and i want to see how shes going to rule on timing. Because if it is clear and i think it is clear that they are going to go line by line to find anything they can, even with vacuous arguments, i think this is somewhat of a vacuous argument because protective orders are standard in any case. Especially in a case like this, what that is going to do on the timeline for this case and the other cases that are impacting trump. As far as the timeline goes, we believe august 28th is the next time theyre back in court. As we saw in this particular issue, the judge could always add hearings between now and then if more issues come up. Paul henderson, thank you for standing by and being a great resource for us and helping us understand what is happening in the courtroom today. Appreciate it. Up next on ana cabrera reports, step right up for butter cows, chicken on a stick, fried everything and how about a side of politics . Were live at the Iowa State Fair where the gop candidates are dropping in. Where the gop are dropping in. 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Com tv wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. Now available in cinnabon® bakeryinspired flavor. Its to die for. And its all right here. Streaming was never this easy, you know. This is the way. You really went all out didnt you . Um, its called commitment. Could you turn down the volume . Here, you can try. Get way more into what your into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. Let me take you to iowa where president ial hopefuls are getting chummy with the locals over fried oreos and a butter cow at the famous state fair. Lets go straight to nbc news correspondent dasha burns who is joining us from the fairgrounds. Were going to see tons of candidates in the next couple of days. What can we expect today . Reporter well, ana, one candidate just wrapped up his fairside chat with governor kim reynolds, former Vice President mike pence. Hes in a crowd of voters over there, a little hard to see. Hes mingling with some iowans right as we speak. He just sat with the governor for about half an hour answering questions from her, some Voter Questions that she had for him as well. Shell be doing this with pretty much all the candidates that are willing except for former President Trump, who is taking issue with her neutrality in the race. He will not be sitting down with her. But take a look around. Look at how many voters are here. This is why candidates come to the fair. Voters are here. They are ready to listen. They are ready to take a look and kick the tires of all the candidates. The vast majority of folks we talked to here, ana, they are still undecided. Theyre open minded. Take a listen to some of the conversations we had. It is always good to come here and theyre willing to listen to us. I dont think we are super thrown off by the glitz of president ial candidates. And i think that gives us the freedom to ask difficult questions and not just be thrown off by somebody because the maybes. Reporter next the former vp is to flip some pork chops. Doug burgum is looking at the butter cow, making that visit, doing all the classic fair things you got to do, show youre the real deal, show you can connect with voters. Tomorrow, the clash of the titans, the two top candidates, former President Trump and Florida Governor ron desantis will be here. A lot to look out for at the Iowa State Fair, ana. They have sunshine and Fried Pickles and, you know, the works. Thank you, dasha burns. Thats going to do it for us this busy week. Thanks for being here. Have a wonderful weekend. My friend jose diazbalart picks up our coverage right now. Good morning, 11 00 a. M. Eastern, 8 00 a. M. Pacific, im jose diazbalart reporting from new york. Breaking overnight in hawaii, the number of People Killed in those devastating wildfires is now up to at least 55. Survivors are returning to their homes only to find piles of smoking rubble. People lost everything. Homes, jobs, their cars, their pets. There is still people missing. Right now in a washington, d. C. Courtroom, former president Donald Trumps lawyers are in a