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Us to deal with. And i love the way you two talked about whats happening and whats going to happen. Well, i mean, shes setting the tone for the administration. We have actually heard a lot from the new president in the past eight days. He has spoken publicly a lot. But we are hearing even more from jen psaki in the briefing room, and shes setting this tone of normalcy, accountability, Expository Work that tells us what the administration thinks the problem is, what they are doing to work on it, who is in charge of that work. And that person will be answering questions about it, as will jen psaki on behalf of the entire administration. Its just basic accountability, which is basic small deed democracy, which is just something we were used to before. We lost it for four years, and now it just feels so radical to get back to it. I hope it never i hope we never take it for granted again. I think we have, for this year, a series of rachel and jen conversations coming up at 9 00 p. M. Intermintntly, from time to time i hope so. That we will all be looking forward to. I hope very much. Thank you for saying that, lawrence. Well, nadia was thrown in prison by Vladimir Putin because she sang a song in a cathedral in moscow. She had a little baby at the time. She got out of prison because of pressure put on Vladimir Putin by the United States and other countries around the world. She will join us at the end of this hour to talk about what joe bidens new pressure on Vladimir Putin means to the current enormous wave of protests in the russia. And in our continued concentration on the year of the senate, we will turn to the senates unique and very important function of confirming federal judges. Mitch mcconnell turned the senate into a high speed confirmation factory for federal judges during the trump years. And now its joe biden and Chuck Schumers time to catch up. Dahlia lithwick will join us to discuss what should be the Democratic Senates nonstop concentration on federal judges and what to expect from the president ial Commission Joe biden is appointing to study the possible expansion of the United States Supreme Court. A federal judge appointed by president obama refused to let this guy out of jail this week. Judge Barrel Howell said he would have to remain in jail because, quote, what happened on that day in the u. S. Capitol was criminal activity that is destined to go down in the History Books in our country. The fbi and federal prosecutors and federal courts are closing in On Hundreds Of Invaders of the capitol. But Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today, the real problem now is The Enemy Within the House Of Representatives. This enemy of the house, this enemy of the constitution is a member of the House Of Representatives, and she believes all of the worst things that the invaders of the capitol believe, all of the stupidest things, the racist things, the antisemitic things. Marjorie Taylor Greenes Public Record prior to becoming a member of the House Of Representatives was so poisonous that even House Republican leaders Kevin Mccarthy and Stephen Scalise actively opposed her candidacy in a republican primary. She publicly supported assassinated nancy pelosi, and now she is fully embraced by the republicans in the house and the senate. When a poison like that enters your political system and you say and do nothing about it, then you are more than complicit. That means you actually want that poison in your politics because you believe it will help you. Congressman jason crow will join us later in this hour to discuss what it means to be going to work every day with a member of the House Of Representatives who has advocated for the assassination of the house speaker. It is into that poisoned system on the republican side of congress that joe biden will be sending the legislation he needs to pass to do what he promised america he will do. But before Biden Legislation begins to move in the congress, the president is already doing job one by executive order, which is undo the damage that trump has done. Its been a busy week, and ive signed Executive Orders tackling covid19, the economic and climate crises as well as advancing racial equity. But today im about to sign two Executive Orders, basically, the best way to describe them, to undo the damage trump has done. Theres nothing new that were doing here other than restoring the Affordable Care act and restoring the medicaid to the way it was before trump became president , which by fiat he made more inaccessible, more expensive and more difficult for people to qualify for either of those two items, the Affordable Care act or medicaid. And the second order im signing relates to protecting Womens Health at home and abroad. And it reinstates the changes that were made to title x and other things, making it harder for women to have access to Affordable Health care as it relates to their reproductive rights. Nbc news reports that President Biden is already in direct communication with some republican senators. Jen psaki confirmed that to rachel in the last hour. Those senators include rob portman and senator Susan Collins who President Biden worked with when he was a member of the senate. The relationship that i have with joe biden is closer than the relationship that i had with president obama or with President Trump. And im very happy to have a Good Relationship with him. The fact that he called me hes called me twice since the election i think is a very good sign. And we had an extremely friendly conversation as well as a substantive one. And he encouraged me to call him any time. House republican leader Kevin Mccarthy has promised to have a word with Marjorie Taylor greene about the racist, antisemitic, homicidal thoughts she has publicly expressed. But more important mri for kevin but more importantly for Kevin Mccarthy, he had to go to florida today to talk to the man who is facing trial for incitement of insurrection at the u. S. Capitol. Heres what Kevin Mccarthy said about Donald Trumps involvement in that insurrection. The president bears responsibility for wednesdays attack on congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. These facts require immediate action by President Trump. Accept his share of responsibility, quell the Brewing Unrest and ensure President Elect biden is able to successfully begin his term. The Cowardly Kevin did not say a word of that to donald trump today. Kevin mccarthy released a statement, saying, today President Trump committed to helping elect republicans in the house and senate in 2022. That commitment is worth absolutely nothing, because its from donald trump. Kevin mccarthy still hasnt released a statement saying that Marjorie Taylor greene has promised not to encourage the assassination of the speaker of the house anymore. Or the assassination of anyone else in the House Of Representatives or anywhere else. Democratic congressman of Los Angeles Jimmy gomez has introduced a resolution to expel Marjorie Taylor greene from the House Of Representatives. Here is what Congressman Gomez told chris hayes tonight. Marjorie taylor greene, a conspiracy theorist believes in all sorts of crazy things, but the worst thing is, shes incited crowds in the past to storm the capitol, to go after nancy pelosi. They were even chanting hang mike pence. And now shes still a member of congress. I believe she is a Clear And Present Danger to the members of the House Of Representatives. Just simply for the fact she also is able to bring a gun to the House Office Buildings and shes walked around the Metal Detectors going to the floor. Theres a strong sense that something worse than january 6th could happen if she continues in office. Today, nancy pelosi said there is no difference between Marjorie Taylor greene and Kevin Mccarthy and the rest of the Republican Leadership in congress. What im concerned about is the Republican Leadership in the House Of Representatives who is willing to overlook, ignore those statements. Assigning her to the Education Committee when she has mocked the killing of little children at sandy hook elementary school, when she has mocked the killing of teenagers in high school at the Marjory Stoneman douglas high school. What could they be thinking . Or is thinking too generous a word for what they might be doing . Its absolutely appalling, and i think that the focus has to be on the Republican Leadership of this House Of Representatives for the disregard they have for the death of those children. But to have someone that would mock, call it a fake those fake events onto the education is just beyond its just beyond any understanding of any regard that the House Republicans would have for the House Of Representatives, for the congress of the United States and for the heartbreak of the families in sandy hook and at Marjory Stoneman douglas high school. Leading off our discussion tonight, former congressman david jolly. He left the Republican Party in 2018. Hes an msnbc political analyst. Former white house also with us, Jennifer Paul merry, former Communications Director for Hillary Clintons president ial campaign. She hosts podcast just something about her. From the recount. David jolly, let me begin with you tonight, because those are your former colleagues on the republican side of the aisle in the house that nancy pelosi is talking about tonight. What is the difference between Kevin Mccarthy and the new members who some of whom, one of whom, has advocated the assassination of nancy pelosi . Apparently nothing. Kevin mccarthy and Republican Leaders should publicly condemn Marjorie Taylor greene. They should eject her from the House Republican conference, refuse to seat her on any committees and isolate her from any support of the Party Apparatus or the friendly donors that typically support republican members. Lawrence, heres why Marjorie Taylor greene is dangerous. The fbi, for the first time in may of 2019, warned that it was not just the White Nationalists, not just the White Supremacists that were creating a domestic terrorism danger. It was the Conspiracy Theory groups that were fueling that con sketch when si. When christopher wray, t testif december, he said it was the Conspiracy Theory groups that are fueling the anger of the White Nationalist groups. Its the Conspiracy Theory groups that are creating the threat to our government. And Marjorie Taylor greene, one of the members of these Conspiracy Theory groups, has now been elevated to the United States congress. What fed the lies of the january 6th event was not just the president of the United States, but this dangerous conspiracy ridden Online Community of which Marjorie Taylor greene has shown herself to be a champion. Kevin mccarthy may not listen to me and my advice to eject Marjorie Taylor greene from the House Republican congress, but he should listen to the fbi director. She is a danger not just to the congress but to the country. Jennifer, i want to get your read of this first week of the Biden Administration and specifically jen psaki. I was thinking of you in the last hour when rachel was interviewing jen psaki. You have a similar experience working in the white house. You know how to judge thesein a. Shes going to be the face, in many ways, of the biden agenda on a daily basis with the news media. That biden agenda is going up to a congress that is equally divided almost in the senate, slight advantage to the democrats. Democrats have the advantage in the house. But with this very strong Republican Opposition that includes, you know, this wild edge, this completely wild and dangerous edge of the Republican Party that is present both in the house and the senate. When youre at that white house podium and youre trying to get the kind of attention that shes trying to get on the biden agenda, how do you do that when you know what is happening right outside basically outside of that room and capitol hill and the way its being received up there . So, i think theyve done a great job. Its only been a week and im sure they have a lot of tough days ahead of them. But you can tell Jennifer Psaki works this is her second white house. People like ron klain, its their third white house. People like ryan deese, National Economic adviser, its his third white house. Joe biden has decades and decades of experience. These are people who know what theyre doing. They know that jen has had a remarkable first week at the podium. But you also know theyre not going to be the show that the Trump White House was, right . So, they need to be constantly on air. They need to be they need to have lots of voices at the podium that are speaking on different issues to make to try to have as much reach as possible to show the breadth of the work theyre doing. I thought it was very smart that they are working with congress. When psaki started her Press Briefing yesterday, i noted she went out of the way to talk about the meetings theyre having on the hill but also with mayors to show their outreach isnt just retained to republicans on the hill or even just washington, d. C. , that theyre talking to lots of people to show that when push comes to shove and if there is not republican support for what theyre trying to do on covid, they got caught trying, right . Theyre showing that theyre putting all of the work in. And while theyre working with congress, theyre doing executive actions and show they are making progress for the American People day after day after day. Were on day seven now. Each day theres been something new. Its a Shock And Awe response and it comes from a response that knows what theyre doing. Theyll have tough days, but i think they are off to a great start. And it shows how much experience that they have on the policy and communications front. Jennifer, i have to say your show, showtimes circus, you get video we dont see anywhere else. In our episode this weekend, you have a shot of jen psaki before her First White House briefing. Shes backstage. Shes about to open the door to go out there. It was as it would have been done in the movie, and i hope everyone can go find it. Its a wonderful moment. Before that door opens, were all as excited as she is as whats going to happen when she steps out there. Beautifully done. David, jennifer, thank you both for starting us off tonight. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, lawrence. Coming up, Congressman Jason Crow is dealing with The Enemy Within in the House Of Representatives every day. 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Go online to transfer your services in about a minute. Get started today. Congresswoman susan wild was terrified during the invasion of the capitol, but it would have been much worse if jason crow wasnt holding her hand. What was going through my head was, frankly, terror. Unlike jason, i dont have combat experience. Im very grateful to have been in the fox hole with jason. Its the closest i have ever come to Something Like that. And i will tell you that whats going it was a scene of total confusion and chaos, at least for somebody who had never been in that kind of experience. But our next guest, jason crow, cant protect every member of congress, especially now that house Speaker Nancy Pelosi says the enemy is within the house. We want to have a scientific approach to how we protect members. I do believe, and i have said this all along, that we will probably need a supplemental for more security for members when the enemy is within the House Of Representatives, a threat that members are concerned about in addition to what is happening outside. Currently there is no budget and there has never been a budget for providing individual security to members of the House Of Representatives or to senators. They dont get body guards in washington or back in their Home Districts. And the one place they always thought they never had to be worried was inside the House Of Representatives. Nancy pelosi left no doubt about what she meant when she said the enemy is within. What exactly did you mean when you said, the enemy is within. What did you mean by that . It means we have members of congress that want to bring guns on the floor and have threatened violence on other members of congress. She is of course talking about Marjorie Taylor greene and other republican members of congress who have tried to bring guns onto the house floor. Politico is reporting that one Republican House staffer who works for one of the Extremist Member who is voted to overturn the Election Results has received multiple calls from constituents who is say the rioters didnt inflict enough damage and there should have been more people storming the capitol. Joining us now is democratic Congressman Jason Crow of colorado. Hes a member of the House Armed Services committee. Congressman crow, thank you very much for joining us again tonight. What is the feeling in the House Of Representatives, and what do you think is needed in the House Of Representatives now about security in the aftermath of the capitol invasion . Hi, lawrence. Yeah, things are very tense. Theres obviously still a lot of security here on capitol hill. We want to see change. And we have to see change. You know, what happened on january 6th was obviously a catastrophic security failure. Theres no doubt about that. But i think the challenge that we face right now is, we have to address that security situation, we have to address this threat of domestic homegrown terrorism that we see, but we have to do it in a way that doesnt change who we are. And thats what i want to see. I dont think we should let this violent mob, this group of terrorists, change who we are as a congress and as a people. So, we have to make sure were taking that into account. Theres a lot of things we can do to change security and make capitol hill more safe and provide security for members. Theres a comprehensive Security Assessment underway right now so well have to see what comes out of that assessment and what we have to do. Also remember this is the peoples house and that accessibility and transparency is really essential to who we are. What about security for members of congress when theyre outside of washington, when theyre in their home states, their Home Districts or traveling anywhere in the United States . Yeah, i think were going to have to settle into a new normal here at least in the next couple of months. The bottom line is this President Trump has radicalized an entire wing of the far right. You know, we have an extremist right Wing Movement thats been radicalized thats armed, that is extremely dangerous. We saw that on january 6th and its not new. Its been around for decades, the foundation and the beginnings of it have been around for many decades, but President Trump brought it out in the open and has romanticized it and given them permission and lie sense to sow their violence throughout the country. So, were going to have to take measures. We have to bediligent. That we have some Resources Available to members to make sure they and their families are safe. Thats the new normal. Thats the unfortunate reality of what were in. But we have to do that while we also understand that accessibility to our Con Sketch Wents is really essential to your job. So, were going to have to do both of those and were going to have to figure out how to do them both. Well, all 50 governors have security because theyre all commanders of their own state police and they are always surrounded by their own state police. Some of them have bigger Security Entourages than others. Hundreds of mayors have security because they have their own Police Departments, their local Police Departments that are with them at their side all the time. And it also shocks people when i have this conversation privately all the time that, no, theres absolutely zero security for senators and the members of the House Of Representatives. And after what we saw on january 6th, is there anything resembling a plan to do anything about that . Well, the planning is underway right now. There is a comprehensive assessment that has been commissioned by the house leadership. General honore is leading that. Its my understanding thats going to be done by march 5th. And based on that assessment, not just of capitol hill, but of member security, were going to determine what we need to do. So, it has to be factbased. It has to look at things holistically. But i am still a little bit im grieving a little bit for this new environment because, you know, i used to carry a gun. I used to carry a gun for work in iraq and afghanistan, for our country, to defend our country and our freedoms. Then i left the service, i took my uniform off and left that life behind me and started a family, became a veterans advocate, became a member of congress. And i never thought that id be in an environment where id have to have Armed Security and guards and have, you know, guns to protect me and my family. Thats never the way i wanted to live and not the way i envisioned American Democracy and elected officials acting or having to act and have available to them. So, im still frankly kind of personally grieving about the environment that were in right now. So, we have to figure this out. I dont have the answer to it right now. The bottom line is there has to be some change. We have to make sure were protecting ourselves, our families, our communities, our constituents in the capitol. At the same time, how do we reconcile that against our need for accountability and accessibility and transparency and to not become, you know, a fortified government. Because thats not the way we want to be. Thats not the way we want to live. I think we have to figure that out. That is a Leadership Challenge and i dont think anyone has the answer to it right now. Let me just say i certainly dont have the answer to it. When i was working in the congress and the senate, it was a much calmer time than now. And i grieve with you about the loss of just what it used to feel like to work there before january 6th. Congressman jason crow, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Yeah, thanks, lawrence. Thank you. Coming up, while most people who qualify for the Covid Vaccine are having trouble, to put it mildly, getting an appointment to get that vaccine, dr. Fauci says it might be time to create a new vaccine to deal with the new variants. Dr. Petr hotez joins us next. T. Sure, your Health Insurance tells you to see a doctor but, um, look around. These days its not that easy. Youre telling me. But humana helps make it easy. Human care gives you tons of ways to talk to your doctor phone, computer, in person, or tablet. Hey jean hi this is just a quick follow up. Your numbers are looking great. You dont even have to put on shoes. Ooo easy peasy. You like that, huh . Mhm. Humana. A more human way to healthcare. Implementing Making A Modified Version of the vaccine that would ultimately be able to be directed specifically against the South African isolate, which is the most problematic of them all. So, on the one hand, things looking a bit better about plateauing, but on the other hand, we can have some difficult times that we have to be prepared for. Joining us now is dr. Peter hotez, dean of the National School of tropical medicine of Baylor College of medicine. And director of Vaccine Development at university of texas. Dr. Hotez, thank you very much for joining us tonight. What did we just hear dr. Fauci suggesting that we need a new vaccine to deal with the South African variant . What does that mean for people who already have the vaccine that doesnt deal with that variant . Well, so, lawrence, well, sort of. So were also developing a Protein Vaccine thats being scaled to a billion doses in india right now with biological e and being tested across india, so, its clear that the existing vaccine in the long run wont be adequate for the South African variant. It will give partial protection, some protection to varying degrees, but were going to have to make two vaccines. And so how do you handle that . What it means theres two options. One, you now administer a combination vaccine, what some people call a bivalent vaccine, or you move out the existing vaccine you have, knowing that you still have some time and Down The Line youre going to give a boost corresponding to the new South African variant. And i think thats going to be the more common option. So, its not terrible news. We still have time. But this is going to be something to watch very closely, that were going to have new variants and the South African one looks different enough from the existing one that were seeing lower level of protection. We saw this with the novavax report today that it gave 90 protection against the one it was designed for and only 50 to 60 for the new one. Still okay, but in the long run, if you know this is going to become the dominant variant Down The Line, were going to have to make an additional one. So, the consumer end of the getting the vaccine is a wildly differing experience around the country. Some people getting emails from their local hospitals saying, hey, come on and set up on appointment. Its really easy. Others struggling, staying up until 3 00 in the morning, hoping the Internet Traffic is down so they can find an appointment. Ive heard from people who are really thrilled and excited that they finally managed to get an appointment for next week and now theyre learning tonight the vaccine theyre going to get next week will not be good enough to deal with the South African variant and i think what you just said, lets make this clear for the audience, if you get that first shot next week, when you go in for your second shot or somewhere down the road, theres going to have to be another shot that will deal with the South African variant. So, the take home message, lawrence, is nothing changes in the immediate future. You want to go ahead, get your vaccine, get those two doses. But Down The Line, there may be a need for a third immunization, a boost. And if that boost is done, it may be against the South African variant. And just to keep everybody calm, remember that we thought there was a pretty high likelihood we might have to give a third immunization Down The Line at some point, because we had no idea about the durability of protection of any of these vaccines, especially the new technology vaccines. Do they last for three months, three years or 30 years . So, everybody was pretty confident we were going to need a third Down The Line anyway and all were really saying is that third immunization is going to have to be with the probably specifically directed against the South African variant. Thats the scenario thats looking the most plausible right now. The one were mostly in discussions with our vaccine and the other Vaccine Developers are, as well. That is an invaluable update to vaccine news. Dr. Peter hotez, thank you very much for joining us with that tonight. Really appreciate it. My pleasure lawrence, thanks. Coming up, joe biden got an invaluable gift on inauguration day. 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The United States senate has never had a more important first year agenda of a president since 1933 when Franklin Roosevelt took office during the depths of the depression. Yes, the senate will have an Impeachment Trial of donald trump. Yes, the senate will be trying to pass another covid relief package. Yes, the senate will be trying to deal with climate change. Yes, the senate will be passing a massive budget bill that will repeal the trump tax cuts for rich people, which they havent even started talking about yet. And the senate will have many more less visible legislative fights going on every day. But through it all, every day, the Democratic Senate and the Senate Judiciary committee, on the senate floor, will be trying to deliver confirmations of the most important appointments joe biden can make. Federal judges. Joining us now is dahlia lithwick, Senior Editor and Legal Correspondent for slate. Com and host of the podcast amicus. Dahlia, thank you for joining us tonight. When i read Victoria Roberts Resignation Letter and a few of the others, theyre kind of playful. I mean, theyre almost, you know, putting Little Hearts on them, its like, theyre so thrilled that they can deliver this resignation to joe biden and give him this opportunity to make these appointments. And some of them, you know, are at an age where they might have liked resigning a few years ago, but they waited. And the moment came on january 20th. Its true, lawrence. I think the only caveat to your greatest gift biden could have gotten is the other gift he got which was the senate, which was those two georgia seats. Bau i think no matter how many judges retired, if he didnt have the senate, this was going to be a massive fight. And so, i think youre quite right. As soon as the inning was signed that those georgia seats were his and that the senate was his, i think youre going to see an immense number of judges step aside. And i wouldnt be surprised if you saw some bush judges, some moderate conservative republicans, who have been just horrified, as horrified as the democrat appointees at whats happened to the court. Well, yes, some of the recent resignations do include bush judges. Some are clinton judges. But they clearly were waiting and they clearly wanted to see a president who they could trust make a responsible appointment. Chuck schumer and the democrats in the Senate Judiciary committee i have to believe have learned the lesson of Mitch Mcconnell, which is, rub this like a high speed factory, get as many of these done as possible as fast as possible. I think so, lawrence. And i think you started with this really essential point which is that obama didnt do this. We know that obama decided in his first year not to expend capital on judges. He decided to do the economy. He decided to do the Affordable Care act. And boy are we living with the consequences of that. And so i think that understanding that it was a juggernaut and that a third of the bench, i mean, its extraordinary how successful donald trump and Mitch Mcconnell were at these lifetime appointees, how many circuits theyve completely flipped. I think that if schumer and the dems havent learned the lesson now that this is really essential number one, put it with all the other number ones, i think were going to be in trouble. When rachel talked to Chuck Schumer the other night, she brought up the president ial commission on the judiciary. Joe biden has bob bauer, who is going to be the chair of that, some other Law Professors have already been named, hell be on it. Aisle will probably be a group, they dont know how many will be on it yet, a dozen, maybe 15, who will consider a lot of things about the judiciary, including expanding the United States Supreme Court. Chuck schumer wasnt eager to talk about that and was able to say to rachel quite honestly he will wait the six months or so it takes for that group to issue a report. What do you expect to be in a report like that . Can we tell at this stage on the question of expanding the size of the Supreme Court . We dont know, as you said, even really whos on the commission. I think we know that at least one person, caroline frederickson, whos on the commission, has spoken positively about court expansion. We also know that bob bauer himself has talked about maybe term limits or other forms of Serious Court reform. So, i dont know. We may just get a kind of huge wish list of the 52 things you can do, jurisdiction stripping and term limits and all the other things you can do without a laser focus on court expansion, which is so controversial. I think well get a very, very comprehensive report. And then really the question is going to be, does biden given that he may not have the filibuster behind him, does he kind of go big or go small on this . And the hope is that he goes big. Well, yeah and at min mutt, there will be this scholarly document that will take us through the history of how we got to nine and why weve been stuck at nine for so long on the Supreme Court. And that number didnt come from heaven, it was arbitrary and remains arbitrary. Were out of time on this for tonight but well have you back at a minimum when they issue that report and several times afterwards. Dahlia, thank you for being with us. Take care, lawrence. Thank you. Coming up, thousands were arrested in russia for protesting the jailing of russian Opposition Leader Alexei Navalny. Among those arrested were three members of the group pussy riot. The groups cofounder will join us next. Got my mouth i got life write your next adventure. Handwriting recognition and the audi q3. 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Alexei navalny was immediately jailed by Vladimir Putin when he returned to russia on january 17th after five months of recovery in germany from a deadly poisoning that he says was ordered by Vladimir Putin. Protests erupted in russia last weekend in support of navalny it was one of the largest antiputin protests in his 21 years in power. Mr. Navalnys brother oleg was arrested and detained for 48 hours. Russian police raided the homes of several of mr. Navalnys allies. One woman did not stop playing the piano when the police raided her home. Russian protests have had a theatrical element since 2012 when the women of pussy riot received Prison Sentences after they performed an antiputin protest song at a moscow cathedral. Pussy riots latest Protest Music Video is called rage. It was filmed in st. Petersburg where some of the people in the video were arrested for participating in it. The video will be released on monday. Here is some of that video. Joining us now is a Founder Member of pussy riot. Nadia, thank you for joining us tonight. I want to get your reaction to what it means to Vladimir Putin when President Biden talks to him about the poisoning of Alexei Navalny, the white house notes on the phone call said that President Biden talked to Vladimir Putin about the poisoning of Alexei Navalny. What affect does that have on Vladimir Putin and in russia . Well, thank you for having me, and from the point of the protestors, i must say its really important for the International Leaders to be involved in whats happening currently in russia. It really helps us, because we are fighting for democracy and International Involvement helps us. Putin is deeply scared of the international pressure. He might try to put stoneface on himself and may try to appear as a person who does not care, but in fact, he deeply cares about what other leaders think of him, so if its joe biden or angela merkel, its really effective when International Leaders put pressure on him about Political Prisoners in russia. You told me yesterday that its been a very emotional time for you this week, especially. One of your partners was arrested and detained. I think shes still detained. We have some video, this is video of her being arrested right there. Do you know what her situation is now . Its deeply emotional to me, because masha is arrested seriously for the First Time Since 2012. In 2012, we were arrested and put in in the same place where masha is currently. It is not one of the normal arrests happening in russia every day. Its a serious arrest with criminal charges and she is facing two years in jail. Which is ultimately my deepest nightmare and instill, up to this day, years after my release from prison, i have these nightmares of me coming back to jail and this is a nightmare where masha lives right now. We dont know whats going to happen later, in a day, we will hear more news, but it is likely, unfortunately, that masha will end up in jail again. You told me the first time we talked that one of the reasons why you didnt have to serve your full prison sentence, you did more than a year in a very difficult russian prison, which is a forced labor prison, by the way, i mean, thats something we could talk about at length is what you have to go through when youre in one of these prisons, but the reason you got out was because of pressure put on russia and put on putin directly, by foreign leaders. It incredibly helps. I cannot stress it enough. Right before our release, there was Olympic Games coming. So, the reason why putin had to release us, he didnt want to have bad picture in the international media. So the more reaction you have in european, american media, the more chances that Alexei Navalny and everyone else arrested in the last ten days will be released. I know you are very friendly with Alexei Navalny and his wife, her home was also raided by the russian police. You visited them, i know, when he was in the hospital. Talk about the bravery it takes for him and for you to repeatedly confront Vladimir Putin, knowing that prison is the very likely outcome of confronting him. On the 17th of january, when navalny sat on the airplane and went to russia, he committed a radical act of political bravery. It was one of the most important political actions lately, because he is showing us that all it takes to be effective in opposing the corrupt government is just refuse to fear. And he and his team, because its not just navalny, its the whole constellation of amazing people who are standing behind his back and whole russia who doesnt want to take this corruption anymore, it just takes a little thing. You need to control your fear and then later, the government will not be able to do anything with you and youve seen in the last couple of months how Alexei Navalny outdid putin at every turn. He was jailed, he released an amazing movie about putins on the black sea, which right now has 100 million views on youtube. Nadia, thank you very much for joining us again tonight. It is invaluable for americans, for our audience, to hear your voice on this. We really appreciate it. Thank you, lawrence. That is tonights last word. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. Good evening once again. Day nape of the Biden Administration. The state of our nation is such that the fortress of the Capitol Building following the january 6th insurrection may soon be made permanent. And the speaker of the house is rather ominously warning, the enemy is within. Today the acting chief of the Capitol Police department recommended the fence remain around our Capitol Building indefinitely, and that there be a backup force always stationed nearby to bombed to any such violence. This violence follows the warning about the

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