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at the door. >> i just started sobbing. democratic iowa caucuses, the first vote of the 2020 >> they had found her daughter. presidential election cycle. now back to "dateline." but not the boy she was with. it was as though he'd never existed. >> we couldn't find anything about l.j. >> months went by. still no trace of l.j. and then a rookie took the case. annie kasprzak had had a rough childhood. >> how did you feel about it she was passed along from foster home to foster home before she that this was now going to be your case? was adopted by her case worker, >> i didn't know if i was veronica. capable of doing this. i cried for two hours. annie's life finally seemed to >> a teen found dead. be turning around. >> we still don't have an answer. >> a mysterious missing suspect. then in 2012, annie, just 15, was found murdered, her body >> she said that l.j. has killed floating in the jordan river. someone before. >> and hers to solve. >> i get the feeling, >> there was never a second that jacqueline, you're learning how to become a detective as you go. >> this is the case that taught me. >> you have no surefire way to your mind didn't go to, this is keep your children safe. not what was supposed to happen. >> an eyewitness said she saw daniel ferry assault a girl the night annie was killed. >> veronica is a determined woman. >> did someone say you can't save them all to you? >> my mother is probably the one that would say and still says that witness also said the girl had shown up with l.j., whom that. but yeah. i heard that a lot. police could never find. but in the course of their investigation of ferry, detectives learned something interesting. and you had another l.j. in that crowd, didn't you? >> she rarely listened, though. >> yeah. >> daniel ferry? the desire to do good, to save a child, was too strong. >> yeah. >> what was his nickname? >> he used two. one was joker and the other was though sometimes in the quiet little joe. hours, she wonders if she did >> little joe. the right thing. >> if i wouldn't have picked l.j.? >> yeah. that house, if i would have not taken a shower, if i would have >> maybe their witness was confused or deliberately hiding the fact that ferry and l.j. were one and the same. either way ferry seemed like their man. but the d.a. wanted more done something else, she evidence before filing charges. wouldn't have been in that derek johnson and chad carpenter situation. >> of course, no one could have known then that it would end up thought the blood samples taken like this. from daniel ferry's home would >> union need police department. push the case over the finish >> i need to report a runaway. line. you and derek have to think you're done there, you got it? my daughter is missing. >> her daughter was annie grace >> a lot of our investigators thought that we had it nailed. kasper >> while they waited for the kasperzack. blood results to come back from although when veranda met her, the lab, they went searching for she wasn't a kasperzack at all. the carpet that had been ripped out from the ferry home, the carpet joanna had said the girl had bled on. >> we sent investigators to the landfill here in salt lake she w >> she'd been through abuse, she had a hard time trusting other county, and all of the carpet people. >> 2005, veronica was a case that had been brought in from all the different places had been piled together. worker for university's division of children and family services. so our investigators went through each piece of carpet. her job was to find homes for kids who no longer had one. >> that's a nasty job? >> that was terrible. annie was one of those kids. we actually burned our clothes >> annie has kind of a larger afterwards because we were walking in all this stuff. than life personality. whatever annie does, she never >> they found a couple of carpet scraps but no way to did small. prove they came from ferry's house. if there was something she making those blood samples liked, it was huge. they'd taken from the wall even >> drama came with it, huh? more critical. >> oh, yes. it was weeks later when they oh, yes. >> veronica tried for years to heard back from the lab. find annie a stable home. and then the bloodwork comes back and oops? but after annie had been flung >> bloodwork came back, and it was negative for blood. back to the state nine times, >> not only were the veronica -- young, naive, and samples not annie's blood, it wasn't even blood at all. stubborn -- made a surprising a major blow to the investigation. decision. to adopt annie. didn't mean he's not good for did your superiors tell you, we the crime? >> it doesn't mean that he's not don't do that, veronica? good for the crime. >> oh, yes. >> don't cross that line? it just led us to believe that, >> uh-huh. >> you have a professional okay, it didn't happen here, at the ferry residence. relationship with this child, but don't bring her into your home? >> so ferry might be >> well, and that was very true. good for this thing, but boy, and because at the time i also you're just not getting there? >> yeah. happened to be about six months >> the only bright spot, pregnant. and so i'm sure the thought was, daniel ferry wasn't getting out okay, crazy pregnant lady, she of jail. he was also being investigated for an unrelated kidnapping and doesn't know what she's doing. assault case in a neighboring but it was very much, are you town. so he's on ice while you guys sure? you can't save everybody. can develop your theories about >> but veronica was determined his involvement in this thing? >> yeah. to try. she and her then husband dennis >> they continued to investigate ferry. adopted 10-year-old annie in months went by. lead detective derek johnson was january 2007. promoted to sergeant. annie, who had bounced around from house to house, finally had a home, parents, and brothers which meant jaclyn moore's dream who adored her. of making detective finally came >> she was the immediate cool true. big sister. maybe a case of beware what you she liked being the oldest, wish for. one of her first assignments was being in charge, teaching them the annie kasprzak murder. how did you feel about it? that this was now going to be all of this cool stuff. your case? >> she was wanted, happy, making >> i cried for two hours. memories. opening gifts on christmas >> reporter: really? morning. her first trip to the beach. not that everything was perfect, mind you. >> there was still definitely a, i'm going to test you as much as you say you love me and you're >> reporter: jaclyn decided she needed to start again from the keeping me, i'm going to make -- beginning, following the chain of evidence that led her i don't believe you. colleagues to daniel ferry. >> how would she challenge you, she thought she might link ferry to annie through his phone for instance? >> just the quintessential, i'm not going to do what you say, calls. i'm going to do whatever i want. but when she checked -- >> all of his cell phone records showed he was in the middle to >> a psychological tussle going northern part of salt lake county. on there? >> uh-huh. he had never gone south close enough to where annie was killed. >> which only intensified when not even near her house. annie entered her teen years. >> and she well knew the physical evidence wasn't there either. >> none of the dna came back >> she was about as boy crazy as saying annie was ever a friend i could imagine. or ever at his house. she always had a boy that she liked or that liked her. >> detectives had never found and it was never a, here, let me enough evidence to make a murder charge stick. see. it's, oh, i'm so in love with you, this is forever, i couldn't and it turned out, there was an explanation. remember, while under suspicion imagine anybody being more for annie's murder, ferry was arrested for an unrelated amazing. she was very all-in. kidnapping in a different town. >> but annie was also into her the charge stuck. ferry eventually pleaded guilty and was sent to prison. education and her future. she wanted to be a therapist, just like veronica. draper police came to believe it was this kidnapping that star she even wanted her new family witness joanna had recounted to to adopt more kids. them. she had seen a totally different >> what about this other girl, crime. mom? she's there, she's really having not annie's murder. a hard time, i think we should bring her home. what's more, it happened on the >> she was really becoming your same night annie was killed. daughter in a way, huh? no way daniel ferry could have >> veronica eventually divorced committed both crimes. and remarried. she and her new husband, james, so now rookie detective settled here in riverton, utah, jaclyn moore went back to the boxes and binders piled high on a quiet suburb of salt lake her desk. city. >> i felt lost. annie had james wrapped around i decided i need to start from her finger. the beginning and see what information derek had when he first got the case. >> i took her with me to help me pick out her mother's environments day gift. >> and so began the education of there was a shoe store right a detective. across the way. she started reading through she had a way with me, she could pages and pages of annie's notes talk me into just about and journal entries. anything. one of them was her favorite who does annie turn out to be, shoes she found, she was so the more you learn about her? >> she's very lost. excited about them. they were a red pair of shoes. >> a few weeks later, march she wants to be loved by anyone and everyone. 10th, 2012, annie, now 15, was watching her brothers while >> and jaclyn saw that there was veronica and james went out for one person in particular annie dinner. >> then when we came home, wanted to be loved by. everything seemed the same. chris bagshaw. i mean, annie had changed from his name was scribbled all over run around the house in shorts her journals. to jeans. veronica remembered annie gushing about him. and i just kind of chalked that >> she liked him. he was different. up to, okay, she's gotten cold. i had a massive headache i he had enough of the bad boy couldn't get rid of, so i went going on that he wasn't a goody to take a shower. annie had gone downstairs to her two shoes, so she didn't feel room to listen to music. we just figured it was another like he looked down on her. saturday. >> but it wasn't. when veronica finished her >> annie's diaries revealed something else, too. shower, annie was gone. >> she and chris had sex. james searched her bedroom. >> chris was the boy annie had >> the note was tucked slept with just months before underneath her blanket. and i grabbed it. and it just said, i'm sorry, i her death, after, which remember, she lied about being pregnant. >> i am starting to think that she made up the pregnancy to haven't been totally honest with keep chris around because he you. >> annie, it turned out, w i tos didn't want to be with her anymore. >> next, jaclyn pored over annie and chris' phone records from the night of the murder. not only was chris the last person annie spoke to, but the p. pattern of their calls spoke volumes. p.? for the word no parent >> 30 seconds here and then it hangs up. immediately one of them calls the other back. wanted to hear, pregnant. sometimes the call is ignored. a few months earlier they learned any had had sex for the sometimes chris' phone is blocked. first time. >> she'd had sex. to annie, she assumed i could be >> what do you think is going on? >> it looks like a fight. pregnant or i am pregnant. it looks like they're yelling at >> but the pregnancy test was each other and hanging up on each other. negative ask, annie was now on >> chris had no criminal record birth control. why would she lie about being and no eyewitness put him at the scene. p.? even more alarming was where and there was still the annie said she was going. by the time you read this note, mysterious l.j., annie's reported boyfriend whom police i'll be on my way to california. could never find. please don't try and look for me not in any police database, not anywhere. because i don't want to be that is, until jaclyn knocked on one more door. found. >> the first thing we did is we called the police. and then the second person i >> hey. >> how's it going? >> hi. called was chris. are you jack? >> yes. >> 14-year-old chris bagshaw. >> i'm detective moore. this is detective johnson. annie had brought him over to >> her close buddy and the house a few times. >> he was kind of quiet. predecessor, derek johnson, was by her side when she went to i kind of took it as the, all interview annie's friend jackson. right, i'm here with my girlfrie they don't kill me, he told them the same story that they'd been hearing all along, annie telling friends she was so. >> was he in and out of the pregnant. picture for her as the boyfriend nothing new. of the moment? but then they asked jackson if >> uh-huh. >> his stock would rise and fall? he knew who l.j. was. >> yep, she was crazy about him. his answer floored them. >> she would always referred to >> chris told verronica he didnt know where annie was, but he had this guy as l.j., and i asked her, well, what's his real name? significant physical. she said chris. she was running away with a guy named l.j. >> we were shocked. coming up -- a stunning because we didn't know all of revelation. her friends, because they was l.j., all along, just changed a lot depending on who annie's nickname for chris bagshaw? she was hanging out with at the moment. but it wasn't familiar at all. and a death on the road puts >> a police officer came and took a report. james, meanwhile, called up the jaclyn's case in jeopardy. gps function on annie's cell >> i lost any information i needed on that case. phone. oh, i... i didn't know. >> it put her around the golf course around riverton, within a you didn't see the sign? mile of that, around the bridge that... that wasn't there when i was here earlier. area. >> the bridge at the jordan (whimper) really? river, just a couple of miles from their home, a place jogger, you know, in italy, they let you park anywhere. horseback riders, frequent during the day, and young lovers have a good day, sir. at night. with geico, the savings keep on going. james, veronica, and the officer just like this sequel. watched as annie's phone pinged 15 minutes could save you 15% or more across the computer screen in realtime. >> you're watching her move? on car insurance. 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(frustrated yell) >> it moved so fast. our immediate assumption was, (car horn blast) (yelp) okay, she's getting in a car. try eucerin advanced dry srepair lotion. >> so this is a hot pursuit, looking for your girl. >> yep. >> then the signal just stopped. it helps stop dryness from recurring by going beyond ceramides veronica drove to a walmart near with natural moisturizing factors found in skin where they tracked annie's phone. >> and i have her picture on my eucerin advanced repair lotion cell phone, and i'm showing to it the people that are sitting for healthier looking skin. at the front, the greeders, going, have you seen this girl? >> are you collected or are you skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. a wreck while all this is going on? >> i am -- frantic. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. >> veronica went back home. oh, what a relief it is! so fast! she and james watched the front door. and they kept calling annie, but that's unnecessarily complicated. make ice. her phone went straight to voice mail. making ice. >> in the best of worlds she's out with some young boyfriend but you're not because you have e*trade you may or may not know, off on which isn't complicated. a lark of some kind, but it will their tools make trading quicker and simpler come to an end and you'll get so you can take on the markets with confidence. her back and regroup. don't get mad get e*trade. >> yeah, our worst-case scenario at that point is, okay, she's so you can take on the markets with confidence. going to come home pregnant. ♪all strength, we ain't stoppin' believe me♪ >> worst-case scenario? ♪go straight till the morning look like we♪ not even close. coming up -- ♪won't wait, we're taking everything we wanted we can do it♪ >> he had told us that l.j. had driven by the house, threatening ♪all strength, no sweat chris. >> and a jogger makes a grim discovery. >> 911, what is the emergency? >> river bottom, there's blood. >> when "the girl with the red shoes" continues. 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derek stopped to help but never easy, connect to the xfi gateway. made it out of his car. what about internet speeds that keep up with my gaming? >> that motorist had a gun, and let's hook you up with the fastest internet from xfinity. maybe he was angry. what about wireless data options for the family? >> brian roberts was the draper police chief. of course, you can customize and save. >> and he fired at derek johnson while he was sitting in the driver's seat of his car. can you save me from this conversation? that we can't do, but come in and see what we can do. >> derek, wounded, tried to drive away but lost control and we're here to make life simple. easy. awesome. crashed head-on into a tree. he died at the scene. ask. shop. discover. at your local xfinity store today. it was hard. yeah, it sucked. it -- you have to give me a second. so derek, he was a good guy. good cop. good friend. >> derek was just 32 years old, leaving behind his wife and his 6-year-old son and his family at draper p.d. >> you know, everybody talks about a cop's cop and the best cop you can have and how he treated and served the community. derek was one of those guys. >> for jaclyn moore, the loss was two-fold. >> he was starting to get some free time to come help me with the case and tell me more about what he did when he was on the case. march 11th, 2012. and then he was killed. i didn't have anyone else to spring was still officially days ask. away, but in draper, utah, its promise was clear. morning dew on the brush. >> you'd lost your friend. the crisp air. your old competitive friend. the sun rising over the wasatch mountains. >> i lost my friend, and i lost it should have been a beautiful any information that i needed on day. that case. but for a jogger on the jordan there was no one else. river parkway that morning, it was anything but. >> because he was kind of the >> 911, what is the address of institutional memory of this the emergency? thing, wasn't he? >> yes. >> you know, i'm not real sure. i'm at the river bottom, and >> jaclyn had only herself to there's some pools of blood. rely on now. in the balance, justice for annie, now dead for a year and a half. she strongly suspected and i'm guessing it's just an chris bagshaw knew more than he animal, but in the water right was telling. by the river there's a shoe. what she needed but didn't have was something tying chris to >> sergeant chad carpenter was annie the night she was killed. one of the first on the scene. this is what the jogger sees, blood here. pooling blood? so jaclyn reviewed every clotted blood? interview, every piece of >> yeah, so basically in this evidence on chris. area right here, you had the blood droplets. and then on the cement right here you had mud in this area. the clothes he'd handed over to on that beam right there. police early on came back clean. no presence of annie's dna or in this area you had a little blood anywhere. bit of blood. and then you had pooling down on but then there were the shoes he handed over. the ground right there. >> do you mind if we see your nikes? >> yeah, sure. and then in this area, down to those rocks, was where the majority of the blood had been deposited. >> jaclyn listened to chris' interviews again and again and noticed something interesting >> down there is where most of chris said about his shoes. the blood is? >> yeah. >> she had a bloody nose last it was a large amount of blood. time i hung out with her, and we >> with all the wildlife around, were sitting right next to each other, and she did drip it on my they thought it might be animal shoes. blood, but -- >> do you remember where on the >> we called forensics out and shoe? we did a presumptive test, which was able to tell us that it actually was human blood. >> human blood. >> it was on my shoelaces. that changed things. i'm not sure which shoe it is. >> when was that? >> that made us think, okay, we might have a body in the water. so we called the highway patrol helicopter. >> about five days ago, me and my friend spencer were hanging out, and she just came over. >> the helicopter was in the air >> spencer. for just under an hour before it remember jaclyn had seen him spotted something about a mile coming into the station in the north of where the jogger saw days following annie's murder. the blood. she had a gut feeling back then it was caught up in some that he was hiding something. branches. and detectives at the time asked as the chopper got closer, it for his phone. was clear. >> do you have an idea why we took your phone? >> for call logs? >> well, no, that's part of the there was a body in the river. reason. but there was a message on there sergeant, when the divers pulled that we're kind of interested in. the victim out, what were the do you know what that message injuries that they observed to is? her face? >> she had a laceration here on her forehead. >> it was a message from chris. the cops might come back to your house. her face was very swollen, so we i need you to tell them that annie got a bloody nose so i don't get blamed. weren't able to tell to what extent the injuries were. and we couldn't even identify >> he told me about the -- he who she was. said something about the bloody nose. that i actually don't remember seeing. >> their jane doe, dressed in a i remember hearing it, though. red and white plaid shirt, looked to be about 20 years old. >> lab results eventually did show annie's blood was on chris' her features possibly asian. shoes. detectives questioned him about it during a second interview. and obviously she had been >> okay. it would have ju? murdered. >> yeah. leading the investigation was a young detective named derek johnson. >> but then his story began to change. tell me about him. >> where did it drip on your >> right when he came into the shoe? >> there was a little bit on the shoelace and then there was a little bit right here. >> okay. academy, he sat next to me and started teasing me. so those are two separate drops you could see? >> yeah. and the rest of the class time, >> in fact, the lab found more than just those two spots of we just harassed each other and blood. laughed and giggled all day. they found several. but studying the case file, >> jaclyn moore met derek at the police academy. jaclyn noticed that the lab didn't test every spot to see if it belonged to annie. they hit it off immediately. they also hadn't tested the >> a detective spot came open, bottom of chris' shoes. so what do you do? and we both applied, and he got it. >> did you think, rats? >> well, at that point we went with a private lab to see if >> yes. >> he got it, i didn't? they could test the shoes >> yes. further. >> now derek had caught his first case, also the first it appeared the bottom shoe, homicide the town of draper have both shoes, were soaked in seen in years. >> someone called police just blood. >> it seemed like damning after 10:00 this morning to evidence. report they had come across a gruesome scene. >> by the time veronica and but after testing that blood further -- james saw the reports, annie had >> it came back with two males and two females. been missing nearly 20 years. >> the information it's an asian >> again, nothing you can take to the jury. woman under 20 i think was the >> right. initial report, that would seem to rule out annie, certainly. >> six months passed and more >> initially we're thinking, no, dead ends. that's not possible, that -- there's no way. >> but then a detail sergeant carpenter shared with salt lake >> i was starting to think maybe we're not going to actually solve this case. city's nbc affiliate ksl-tv. >> but jaclyn was tenacious. >> there was a shoe found at the she went back to where she started, back to the phone crime scene, and there was one records. on the body. >> a red shoe. the same kind james had bought annie for valentine's day just weeks earlier. veronica and james tried to stay calm. >> he review 35,000 of chris >> we called the police and we said, hey, our daughter's missing, i think logically i was bagshaw's calls and texts. going, they're just going to one call stood out. rule it out. an incoming call at 9:00 p.m. i just need them to rule it out. the night annie was killed. >> but they couldn't rule it out. >> what actually stood out is we >> after i called the police i called my parents to come and see these 25 handoffs. >> handoffs, the signal bouncing pick up our boys, and i just -- started sobbing. from tower to tower. >> the signal strength had to be >> police soon determined the so similar within those four 20-something asian victim was towers, and a very poor signal at that, that it would cause the really 15-year-old annie handing off that we saw. >> eventually they found it, the kasperzak. she had been killed by blunt only spot in town that caused force trauma to the head. the strange pattern of pings. veronica and james thought the rapid pinging of annie's phone it was at the jordan river, the meant she was driving away. very spot where annie was killed. now there was no hope of her ever coming home. >> we feel very, very so there's the very worst moment comfortable saying at 9:01 p.m. of your life at that point. here they are, three people at on march 10th, the phone was the door. one-hundredth 100 meters of where we're standing. >> they -- they confirms that it was annie. i think we were in shock. >> it turned out of all the people who could have called chris that night, the one who we went into automatic, what do you need from us? tell us what you want. did at precisely 9:01 p.m. was you can have it. look at anything. annie's mom, veronica. that was because of something >> veronica told investigators what she learned from annie's annie had told veronica earlier on-again/off-again boyfriend chris bagshaw. that morning, something about that annie had run away with a boy named l.j. chris. >> he's asked her what would you >> when you talked with l.j., do if i asked you to run away how did you talk to him? with me? >> run away? >> i talked to him once. >> okay. >> then i told her, you know if >> actually on the phone. you're ever missing he's the >> okay. first person i'm calling. >> police spoke to chris bagshaw and his father at their home. >> and when you talked to him on the phone, did he speak with an accent or did you notice >> which she did, and without even realizing it, helped police anything distinctive about his place chris bagshaw at the scene voice? of the crime right around the >> no. time her daughter was killed. >> naturally, police also had to ask chris where he was. >> i was with my grandma. >> okay. >> and at one point i did walk up to see if my friend can hang out, but he wasn't home. it was early morning october >> okay. 16th, 2014, when veronica got >> they went through the usual questions. >> when you walked to your friend's, what did you have on? another life-changing call. >> just regular jeans and a >> jaclyn was on the line. she says, well, we're in t-shirt and my red jacket. colorado and we're in the process of arresting chris. bst. >> just blue jeans? >> yeah, blue jeans, his nike see? dreams true. shoes and a t-shirt underneath. and he had his red hoodie on. >> do you mind if we see your or if you like a taste of new england without leaving home, nikes? >> yeah, sure. try lobster, sautéed with crab, jumbo shrimp and more, or maybe you'd like to experience the ultimate surf >> chris wanted to help. he gave those nikes to investigators, as well as his and the ultimate turf... clothes. he even gave a dna sample. with so many lobster dishes, and after his interview, chris' there's something for every lobster fan dad called up sergeant carpenter. so hurry in and let's lobsterfest. >> he had told us in this phone or get pick up or delivery at redlobster.com call that l.j. had driven by the house, was threatening chris. you get more than yourfree shipping.ir, you get everything you need for your home at a great price, >> so here's more information that this l.j. is a very real the way it works best for you, and threatening person? 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invisible trailer? and it's not the trailer right next to us? this guy? you don't believe me? hop in. in her room, police found this good lookin' pickup, i will say that. poem she had written to l.j. oh wow. and with it, for the first time, a name leyton jendon. silverado offers an optional technology package with but police couldn't track him down. up to 15 different views - including one enhanced view that makes your trailer appear invisible. not showing up on social media wow. and kid stuff? >> nothing. - that's pretty sweet. - that's cool. not even on any driver's license oooohh! database. we checked all of the gang that's awesome. databases that we have in the salt lake valley. where'd the trailer go? nothing. i love it. it's magic. >> jaclyn wasn't working the case then, but she remembers crossing paths with spencer at the station. >> and he immediately tensed up, clenched his fists. his eyes got big. he couldn't take his eyes off of me. and i thought, this kid has done something wrong. and he thinks i'm coming to arrest him because i'm approaching him in uniform. >> did you share that with derek? >> yes. he said, we've received more information now, and we think we have another suspect. >> another suspect. a new name altogether. based on information from an eyewitness who may have seen annie kasprzak the night she was killed and knew who killed her. coming up -- is this how annie was murdered? >> and is this the man who murdered her? >> what if i told you she's dead? >> i didn't do it. burst pipe in denmark. if you look close... jamie, are there any interesting photos from your trip? ouch, okay. huh, boring, boring, you don't need to see that. oh, here we go. can you believe my client steig had never heard of a home and auto bundle or that renters could bundle? wait, you're a lawyer? only licensed in stockholm. what is happening? jamie: anyway, game show, kumite, cinderella story. you know karate? no, alan, i practice muay thai, completely different skillset. it was 2014. and my side super soft? chris bagshaw, now 17, had moved yes. with the sleep number 360 smart bed, on sale now, to grand junction, colorado, and you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. was living with his mom. he was completely unprepared for can it help me fall asleep faster? 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>> yes, we are, your honor. >> there was no deal offered, just a change of heart. >> are you pleading guilty to charge because you're guilty of it? >> yes, your honor. >> chris' attorney said chris wanted to take responsibility for what he had done >> all right. then as to count one, murder, a first-degree felony, how do you plead? >> guilty, your honor. >> a guilty plea, confirming what jaclyn had pieced together over the years of her investigation. and she had a theory about how it all went down. >> so march 10th, annie is discussing over the phone what her options are for her baby with chris. and chris is telling her he's annie kasprzak had been brutally murdered and dumped come up with a plan, and they into the jordan river. can run away and be together. >> jaclyn thinks chris really >> we kept asking, are you sure believed annie was pregnant. so he persuaded her to meet him it wasn't an accident? at the river. but -- the idea that somebody else >> chris has no intent on could do that to her was just -- running away. chris' only reason for being there is to kill her. so he just starts beating her until she dies. even now, it's hard to imagine that that's even possible. >> turns out to be a very sloppy >> reporter: and now draper crime. the amount of blood. police were working hard to catch her killer. >> we're trying to actively >> i feel that he betrayed annie locate suspects in this case, more than he betrayed us. annie knew him. any witnesses, so that we can actually bring this case to a and annie trusted him. conclusion for the parents. >> at his sentencing, chris >> reporter: and within a week of annie's murder, they found that witness. sounded remorseful. >> i'm very sorry for everything her name was joanna, and she had that's happened, and i want to been picked up on a fraud charge apologize to annie's family and to my family and to everybody in by neighboring west jordan p.d. during her interview, she court today for putting started telling detectives about everybody through this. a young girl she had seen a week prior. >> still trying to put words into everything that has the cops thought some of what happened -- she said sounded eerily similar to annie's case. >> but for veronica, no around of i'm sorries could make up for what she and annie's entire so they called draper p.d., and detective derek johnson and his colleague came over to hear what joanna had to say. family lost. >> tell me what you know about >> may you feel sadness. this girl. >> it was the second time i've seen her over there. may you feel loss. may your tears heal your soul. >> reporter: "there," at the but may your conscience never home where a man named daniel clear. i will grieve my daughter every ferry used to live. danny ferry is a guy known to law enforcement? >> yes. day. >> and so for the charge of >> as maybe a drug dealer? first murder, a firstagree >> drug dealer. he was a member of a gang called vario loco town. felony, i'll sentence you to an and law enforcement has dealt with danny quite a few times, indeterminant term of not less yeah. than 15 years -- >> chris bagshaw has determined >> ferry had a long rap sheet. her future, now chris bag sa in fact, derek had served a search warrant on his home a year earlier. shaw would hear his fate. and now here was joanna telling it would be 15 years to life in prison. derek that she saw a girl who jaclyn has other cases to work these days. sounded a lot like annie at daniel ferry's home on the night but this one, annie's case, will annie was killed. surely hold a special place in joanna also said the girl showed her heart. do you think derek would have up with someone police had been searching for but couldn't find. approved? his confidence in you would have been vindicated finally? >> i wished so bad he was there. >> she came with l.j. >> l.j., the guy annie had written that note to. the alleged gang member. the one chris bagshaw said annie had run away with. >> annie started off as a case for veronica, too, but she became so much more. >> we had annie's entries that said l.j. >> we put her ashes in the ocean we had joanna telling us about l.j. so that -- so that she would never be in one place. >> on that night, said joanna, l.j. and the girl disappeared into the garage. she assumed they were having and so that wherever we were at, sex. we could feel like she was there. then when they came out, she saw daniel approach the girl. >> he asked her if she wanted to [ bleep ] and she laughed. >> despite the horrific events and she was like, no. that took away her daughter, and he just kind of grabbed her head and just rammed it into the veronica is still as determined wall. as ever to continue to do good work and to help children in >> she said the girl was knocked need. unconscious. l.j. and another friend named "v" tried to calm daniel down. and then the three of them carried the girl out to the she and james have since adopted garage and changed her clothes. five more children. it is just what annie would have wanted them to do. >> tell me about the clothes they changed her into. >> there was a lot of red. that's what i remember the most. >> what parts do you remember being red? >> pants and shoes and a shirt, like white, white and red. >> the shirt was white and red? >> yeah. her shoes. shoes had white laces, and we were tying them. >> then, joanna said, daniel, l.j. and "v" wrapped the unconscious girl in a blue tarp, put her in a white suburban, and took off. and when they came back hours all of your new best later, she said daniel was friends? covered in blood and the girl one of them's missing. was not with him. a body was found in one of their >> i asked daniel where she was, apartments. how am i doing right now? and he said that she went i had to put it into one word? swimming. numb would be the closest. >> it was a mystery where he said, she put up one hell of a fight once we got there. nothing was as it seemed. >> joanna's story rang true, except for the body. leading derek johnson to believe >> it's so hard, you know. the mystery girl was annie and daniel ferry was her killer. she was 23. >> did you see blood on the carpet? >> yeah. >> was it carpet or hard floor? >> it was carpet. >> okay. >> positive it was carpet. >> now the search team found the carpet in ferry's house had been ripped up and the walls were freshly painted. so you had signs of a cover-up. >> yeah. it's looking more and more like this is actually true, all this information that we're receiving. >> did you find blood-like splotches on the wall? >> we found indications that there would be blood on the wall. >> they swabbed those areas and then went looking for daniel. they found him at an apartment complex, arrested him, and brought him in. >> do you want to talk to us without counsel? >> yeah, whatever. but what's it about? >> let me ask you that. what do you think? >> i got no clue. >> it was, detectives thought, the typical bad guy response. they were sure daniel knew something. they asked him about l.j. >> who the hell's l.j.? >> that's what i'm asking you. >> dude, i don't know no l.j. >> and then about annie. >> i don't know l.j. >> tell me about annie. >> annie who? >> annie. >> who the [ bleep ] is annie? >> annie is a girl that was at your house for a party last weekend. >> dude, i have no idea who annie is. >> we've already talked to a lot of other people that all verify she was there, danny. >> okay. show me a picture, then. >> you showed him a picture of annie. >> yep. >> brittany? is her name brittany? >> no, it's annie. >> detectives thought daniel was lying, and they were done playing around. >> what if i told you she's dead? >> i didn't do it. what the [ bleep ]? if you guys think i did this, i do want a lawyer. >> okay. >> because there's only -- >> we're done. >> the only thing that is shaking me -- >> we're done daniel, because i think you did it. >> well, if you think i did it, then you've got the wrong guy, man. for real. >> good luck. >> find the right guy. >> derek was confident he had. they booked daniel for annie's murder. did this name mean anything to you? ferry? >> no. >> guy's known for doing drugs. >> uh-huh. >> i didn't understand it. annie was extremely anti-drugs. >> annie's 15. the guy arrested is what, 30 years old? >> uh-huh. >> a person known to the police, as they say? >> uh-huh. that compounded the, oh, guilt of, boy, what bad parents are we that not only did this happen to her, but that we didn't even know she was hanging out with people like this. >> l.j., whoever he was, still hadn't turned up, but detective derek johnson still thought he'd wrapped up his first homicide. all he needed was the lab to confirm that the blood found in daniel's home was annie's. but then the lab called, and everything unraveled. >> coming up -- not the best time for a rookie detective to be taking over. >> i cried for two hours. i had only had a few months in detectives and i didn't know if i was capable of doing this. la. and i like to question your every move. like this left turn. it's the next one. you always drive this slow? how did you make someone i love? that must be why you're always so late. i do not speed. and that's saving me cash with drivewise. my son, he did say that you were the safe option. and that's the nicest thing you ever said to me. so get allstate. stop bossing. where good drivers save 40% for avoiding mayhem, like me. this is my son's favorite color, you should try it. 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