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materially from what paul manafort was pitching back during the 2016 election? we know in 2014, russia invaded and occupied crimea, and there was a similar plan being pushed by paul manafort to essentially hand crimea and the donbas, the eastern part of ukraine, over to russia. is this plan, is your reporting that this is any different? >> basically, we're talking about those same plans. you know, there is a reality that's developing where just as a military reality, the chances that ukraine can regain all of that territory looks pretty far, but also, if you were to have just everyone put down your weapons where you are today, that doesn't match up with those orders either. even drawing an armistice line is not a simple exercise. >> there's a tremendous irony for those like me who are fascinated by history that today's stalin who yearned for their era of the old soviet union that was gobbling up parts

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