in our politics. this is exactly the same play book. and if we don't have antibodies to this. one of those would be not inviteing the leader of the country doing that to address a joint session of congress, it will keep happening. >> the reason they didn't succeed, it was not that convincing. the intelligence, the ai use was not that sophisticated. but just in terms of the future and what we are looking at with rogue governments or allies trying to meddle with a frayed democratic system here in the u.s. what are the implications? >> i think a lot of what we see from governments. i think a lot of foreign interests do this. they look for areas where there are divisions already in the