reporting, i think the cliffhanger here as dobbs was being decided after the leak was whether john roberts was going to be able to get kavanaugh or comey barrett to come with him and just go with the mississippi 15-week ban. i'm curious, what did your reporting find? how close did the chief justice get to getting one of those two to take a more incremental approach? >> well, he didn't get all that close. he tried, and he certainly tried hard. in the end, this isn't what happened. you know, one of the most interesting things i think we found, we uncovered some sort of internal documents that showed where this movement wants to go in the future and how, you know, elizabeth was talking about how this is a movement that's really intent on changing the structure or reverting the structure of american families. what we saw, they're looking at other things going forward. that's hinted at in this decision by thomas.