is one of our legal breakdowns i want you to stay tuned for. we will get exactly into the man who decides the fate of trump org and potentially the fate of trump itself. surgical general murphy. we begin with the two potential suspects of the probe i mentioned, donald trump jr. and eric trump. they actually have decided to do what many defendants in this trump orbit have done. they're subjects potentially, not defendants yet. but they are speaking out on television. this is significant because it's the first time since the news broke that there is a grand jury impanelled, which is significant escalation of that case as it weighs charges. now, charges may not mean anyone, right? you can always decide not to charge anyone. or it could mean trump executives. along with eric weisselberg. don and eric ran the company in