Amy pressure is growing on britain and the United States to pay reparations and apologize for expelling residents of the Chagos Archipelago in the indian ocean more than a halfcentury ago so the United States could build a Major Military base on the island of diego garcia. We will speak to a leading chagossian activist. Then we go to new mexico where a trump supporter wearing a maga hat opened fire on an indigenousled protest last week against the reinstallation of a statue honoring a 16th century spanish conquistador. One indigenous climate activist was shot and needed to be airlifted for emergency surgery. We will get the latest. And a shocking new report estimates psalm 35,000 people in the United States have been killed at the hands of u. S. Law enforcement since the year 2000. We will speak to two researchers which had revealed a number of brown and black People Killed by police may be more than double the amount that has been widely reported. The Database Project goal is to provide as accurate a count of the deaths of latinos and other persons of color by him or at the hands of police. It is a breakthroughs ready that expands on the Data Collected by other resources. Amy all that and more, coming up. Welcome to democracy now, democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. The u. N. Security Council Voted monday to deploy multinational armed forces to haiti as the island nation combats worsening gang violence. The intervention which came at the repeated request of u. S. Backed haitian Prime Minister ariel henry will be led by kenya, marking the First Time InternationalSecurity Forces are sent to haiti in nearly 20 years. The proposal received 13 votes in favor, with russia and china abstaining. The resolution was drafted by the United States and ecuador, allowing foreign troops to remain in haiti for one year, with a review after nine months. The Biden Administration pledged at least 100 million to fund the foreign operation. This is the United States deputy ambassador to the u. N. Jeffrey delaurentis. This Mission Comes at the request of the haitian government and Haitian Civil Society to address the insecurity and dire humanitarian crisis the country has faced for far too long. The deployment of this mission will help to support haitis critical nearterm needs and to foster the security conditions necessary for the country to advance longterm stability. Amy kenya had previously offered to contribute 1,000 Police Officers. The bahamas, jamaica, and antigua and barbuda have also vowed to send forces. Many haitians have opposed the move due to the disastrous history of u. N. , u. S. , and foreign interventions in haiti. A u. N. Mission that left haiti in 2017 left behind an endemic of cholera that killed some 10,000 people. U. N. Officials were also accused of widespread Sexual Violence, including the abuse of children. Peace activists have denounced the move as a u. S. Led invasion. Meanwhile Amnesty International has voiced concerns about the intervention and kenyanled armed forces, recently citing kenyas continued unlawful use of force against protesters. in 2021, the u. S. Special envoy to haiti resigned to protest the Biden Administrations policies in haiti. In a Resignation Letter the longtime diplomat daniel foote wrote, what our haitian friends really want, and need, is the opportunity to chart their own course, without international puppeteering and favored candidates but with genuine support for that course. no date has been confirmed for the deployment, but u. S. State secretary Antony Blnken recently said it could begin in months. A United Nations mission has arrived in nagornokarabakh for the first time in three decades, as armenias government warns nearly all of the territorys population of 120,000 Ethnic Armenians has fled following azerbaijans military blitz to seize the territory in september. A u. N. Official in armenias capital said Registration Centers have been overwhelmed with huge numbers of exhausted and frightened refugees, a third of whom are children. People are tired. This is a situation where they have lived nine months under blockade. It is not just something that you pick up and go. When they come in, they are scared, frightened. They want answers as to what is going to happen next. Amy armenia has accused azerbaijan of ethnic cleansing. On monday, armenias European Union envoy urged western nations to sanction azerbaijan including its Lucrative Oil and gas industry and requested military aid for armenia. Here in the United States, the Supreme Court opened its new term monday, hearing oral arguments in a case that will determine whos eligible for reduced prison sentences under the first step act, which rolls back mandatory minimum sentences for certain people convicted of nonviolent drug charges. Today, Supreme Court justices are hearing a case brought by a predatory payday Lending Group challenging the Leadership Structure of the Consumer Financial protection bureau. Legal experts warn the outcome of the case could undermine other regulatory agencies and federal programs including medicare and social security. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has denied an appeal without comment by texas death row prisoner robert roberson, who has always maintained his innocence. He was convicted in 2003 of murdering his twoyearold daughter. His lawyers say he was convicted on the basis of testimony by Forensic Experts who cited the shaken baby syndrome hypothesis which was popularized in the early 2000s, but never scientifically validated. Last month, a new Jersey Appeals Court ruled the theory is junk science. In more news from the Supreme Court, Justice Clarence thomas recused himself from a case monday involving former trump Legal Adviser john eastman, who formally served as a law clerk for thomas. This follows reports that thomass wife, the republican activist ginni thomas, corresponded with eastman ahead of the january 6 insurrection about reversing the election to keep trump in power. Justice thomas did not recuse himself from a case back by new york landlords challenging the citys rent stabilization policies. The anticorruption group wrote in response, Justice Thomas billionaire benefactor harlan crow has an interest in weakening rent control laws to buttress his real estate empires profits. On capitol hill, republican florida congressmember introduced a resolution monday to remove speaker Kevin Mccarthy from his leadership position. Gaetz and other farright republicans for averting a shutdown. Gaetz and other farright republicans have accused mccarthy of making a secret ukraine side deal with democrats which mccarthy denies. Vice president Kamala Harris is swearing in a new member of californias Senate Delegation today, following the death of longtime democratic senator Dianne Feinstein last week. Laphonza butler becomes the first openly lesbian black senator, and just the third black woman to serve in the senate in u. S. History. Donald trump appeared in a manhattan courtroom monday for the start of a civil trial brought by new York Attorney general letitia james. Trump and his Business Partners including his adult sons are accused of fraudulently inflating the value of trump organizations assets to obtain loans and favorable business deals. James is seeking to fine trump 250 million and is asking for a permanent ban on trump family members running a business in new york. No matter how powerful you are, no matter how much money you think you may have, no one is above the law. It is my responsibility and my duty and job to enforce it. The law is both powerful and fragile. Today in court, we will prove our case. Amy trump will receive a bench trial presided over by new york Supreme CourtJustice Arthur engoron, after trumps lawyers did not request a jury trial. Speaking to reporters outside the court monday, trump assailed attorney general james as a racist and called the judge a disgrace. He is a democrat operative and a disgrace to people that call themselves judges. This is a judge that should be disbarred. This is a judge that should be out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what he is doing. Amy on monday, over 30 advocacy groups including citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington and Public Citizen published an open letter calling for the protection of juries in trumps four ongoing criminal cases. The letter cites trumps harassment of jurors in georgia and washington, d. C. , adding these attacks threaten centuriesold american institutions designed by the framers to hold to account any leader who would be king. the u. S. Department of labor has launched an investigation into child labor at poultry processors perdue and tyson foods. The probe comes after lawmakers grilled the head of the Occupational Safety and healthy administrations about reports in the New York Times about Migrant Children getting burned and maimed on the job at perdue and tyson slaughterhouses. This is North Carolina democratic congressmember alma adams ranking democrat on the house workforce protections subcommittee whose repeated requests for a hearing on child labor violations have gone ignored by the committees republican chair, virginia foxx. Thanks to recent news investigations, we also know that children, especially unaccompanied Migrant Children, have been suffering all manner of harms in jobs that they should not be working on in the first place. Take a closer look at those stories. Chemicals so caustic that they burn through layers of gloves, machines without guards to prevent peoples arms are hands from getting mangled. Food dust from chemicals and fumes that irritate the sinuses and lungs. These stories are not just about children and desperate circumstances, they are also about workplaces that are dangerous to the people of all ages. Amy to see our interview with the New York TimesHannah Dreier about her investigation into child labor in the United States, go to democracynow. Org. The World Health Organization has approved the use of a more affordable and highlyeffective vaccine against malaria. Who chief Tedros Adhanom ghebreyesus announced the recommendation monday. In areas with seasonal transmission, it reduced cases of malaria by 75 in the 12 months following a threedose series of the vaccine. Amy the vaccine was developed by the university of oxford and is only the second malaria vaccine to be recommended by the who. Malaria is among the worlds deadliest infectious diseases, and the mosquito that carries it has been described as the worlds deadliest animal. in 2021, over half a million people, largely children under the age of five, died from malaria. The vast majority of them in africa. In california, the longtime leader Dolores Sanchez has died at the age of 87. For nearly four decades, she presided over Eastern Group publications which operated 11 newspapers, bringing news to latin communities on los angeles east side and neighboring cities. And press freedom groups are calling on congress to pass new legislation protecting media workers, on the fifth anniversary of the statesponsored killing of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi by saudi arabia in istanbul in 2018. The khashoggi act introduced monday would allow lawsuits in the United States against governments implicated in extraterritorial repression. The separate khashoggi resolution pledges u. S. Action to hold the saudi government accountable for human rights abuses. On monday, elected officials in los angeles welcomed friends and family of Jamal Khashoggi to street dedication ceremony on a stretch of wilshire boulevard outside the consulate of saudi arabia. A sign declaring the space Jamal Khashoggi square reads, a journalist and advocate for human rights slain by the saudi government. in washington, d. C. , the National Press club held a moment of silence to remember khashoggi and other journalists whose killings have gone unpunished. Joining the ceremony was michael omerman, director of research for israelpalestine at dawn, the organization founded by khashoggi. Whereas jamals death outrage the world, today, unfortunately that no longer seems to be the case. It is most apparent in saudi arabia but not only. Following the killing, we saw how the u. S. Government tried to redefine accountability in order to shield him from scrutiny. This is on its optimal. Jamal was murdered for the power of his ideas and because even in the face of mortal danger he refused to remain silent. Amy and those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now, democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman in new york joined by Juan Gonzalez in chicagojuan welcome to our listeners and viewers around the world. Amy pressure is growing on britain and the United States to pay reparations and apologize for expelling residents of the Chagos Archipelago in the indian ocean half a century ago so the United States could build a Major Military base on the island of diego garcia. Diego garcia is located halfway between africa and indonesia and about 1,000 miles south of india. The u. S. Base at diego garcia played a key role in the u. S. Invasions of iraq and afghanistan. For over 50 years, chagossian people have been attempting to return home, but their efforts have been blocked by the u. K. And u. S. Earlier this year, Human Rights Watch accused the two governments of committing crimes against humanity. In a moment, we will be joined by a prominent chagossian activist who is here in the United States who is visiting the United States to meet with u. S. Lawmakers and Biden Administration officials. But first lets turn to an excerpt of a video produced by Human Rights Watch titled the last british colony in africa how chagossians were forced off their homeland. In the 1960s, they ruled over eight countries and three territories in africa. Many african states were already engaged in the process of starting to fight for their independence. Mauritius was fully engaged in this process. But with a major caveat, the u. K. Would keep the chagos art mccalla goes archipelagoes for a small price. U. S. Officials in the era of decolonization were concerned about losing control of the world. So a group of officials in the u. S. Navy developed a plan to identify small islands around the world, and diego garcia became the prime island on which they wanted to build a base. Digger garcia is one of the main islands in the Chagos Archipelago, where many families had lived for generations. The secrecy began being worked out by the u. S. And British Governments in the early 1960s, where the u. S. Government insists to the british that we want, and we wanted without any local population. The British Government agreed to do the dirty work of getting rid of the chagossians in exchange for wiping away a 14 million debt that the British Government owes the u. S. Government. British officials feared they would have to report to the you and about a new colony they had created. With the british do in 1965 is recharacterize entire population of the Chagos Archipelagoes as contract laborers, not a permanent population, to create the rouse that there is no population. Between 1968 and 1973, the British Government removed about 1500 people from the Chagos Archipelagoes to memberships and the seychelles. They were not given a choice. The only thing i saw my mother take with her was a chest to put our clothes and and the mattress. Everything else was left there. They put all the dogs into a chamber and gassed them until he died. Amy an excerpt from a video by Human Rights Watch titled the last british colony in africa how chagossians were forced off their homeland. one of the voices featured in that clip was david vine, a professor at american university, in washington, d. C. , and author of island of shame the secret history of the u. S. Military on diego garcia. Professor vine is also the author of base nation how u. S. Military bases abroad harm america and the world. he joins us now in new york, along with Olivier Bancoult who is the chair of the chagos refugees group, the organization representing most chagossians in exile. His recent article for opendemocracy is titled, the u. S. And u. K. Stole our homes. 50 years on, were still being denied justice. We welcome you both. Lets begin with Olivier Bancoult. Thank you for being here. Explain why you are here in the United States and even what happened to your own state half a century ago that you are still demanding a correction for, as well as all chagossians living in exile. Olivier first of all, good morning, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak on behalf of my people. The reason we are here in the United States is to find out from the Biden Administration, and apologize for the wrongs that have been done to the chagossian people. I think the u. S. Government needs to change their policy concerning chagossian people who have been reported. We want the people of the United States to understand our position. As far as our International Human rights have been banished for so many years, and we want this to be done. We want the u. S. To be fully responsible for what happened to our people. We have been having a nightmare story. We want them to recognize and apologize for all the wrongs they did, starting by making some reparation for our people, like compensation, helping chagossians on chagos. I myself was born on one of the islands of chagos. I was expelled in 1968. The reason was, i came to mauritius for treatment for my sister who had been hurt. Unfortunately after three months, my sister passed away. My mom and dad decided to return baby we left everything there. When we asked to return, we learned it would be impossible for us because the island have been given to america. The wrongs that we have suffered , from where we were born, and this is one of the reasons i want to give more awareness of the situation and put the responsibility toward our people. Juan olivier, who have you met with in washington . Do you sense any support for your demands in congress . Olivier of course, we have been able to meet with many people, especially members of congress. We met also with officials from the state department. According to them, it is the first time they hear from chagossians, what our demands are. Most important is continuing our fundamental rights and dignity as people. According to universal human rights, if you were born in a place, you have a right to live in that place. We cannot accept that other people live on our place where we are declared as persons not greta. We want to have the support of congressman in order to find out how to present Something Like a letter, resolution, or even a hearing to explain our situation and to let the u. S. Government show the responsibility for our chagossian people. Juan you talk about the history of the it habitants of the chagos island come the longterm history that rebuts the contention by the u. S. And britain that they were only contract laborers there in the 1960s. Olivier both governments, u. S. And the u. K. , lie. Before the installation of the u. S. Military base, they say there were no permanent habitats. That is not true. People were living for more than five generations. I give my own example. I was born there, my mother, father, grandfather, even greatgrandfather was born there. We had never been contract workers. We are permanent inhabitants. Life for us is very wonderful because we were living in peace and harmony. We have our culture, house, jobs. After working hours, we would go fishing, all living as one family. Suddenly, they decided to choose diego garcia because it is a very strategic place, a very well situated, so they decided to make it a military base on diego garcia, but forget about the fundamental rights of our people who were living in peace and harmony. Amy i want to play some clips of other chagossian voices. This is iline louis speaking to Human Rights Watch about her life in chagos before she was forcibly removed from her homeland. Life in chagos for people was like living with one family. Everything was shared. Even the food that we cooked was shared. If there is a problem, there is always someone to help. Amy this is Ellianne Baptiste talking about her familys story. I moved to the u. K. When i was 15 years old but my parents estate in mauritius. In the 1960s, hundreds of chagossians, including my mom, were forced to leave the Chagos Archipelagoes and not allowed to return because the u. S. And u. K. Military wanted to make space for a military base. That had a detrimental impact for those living on the island as well as for future generations, causing many families to be divided. The british granted british citizenship to the chagossians and the first generations, which allowed people like my sisters and i to move to the u. K. But not everyone had the chance to because there were limitations and restrictions. The childs age of the first generation. My moms siblings were not born on the chagos islands. My cousins were not eligible for british citizenship. It makes me think that this, if the chagossians were not deported, if my family, mom, grandparents were allowed back on the island, none of this would have happened. Amy these voices, professor david vine, when you hear the pain of what was lost first of all, explain from the beginning. Many have called it a crime against humanity. U. S. And u. K. Moving in, tilting this the terry base. Besides from building this military base, saying no chagossians could live there. David good morning. Indeed, this is a crime against humanity, fundamentally racist crime against humanity that was masterminded from the beginning by u. S. Government officials who seized upon the idea of building a base on diego garcia and getting rid of the chagossians. They proceeded to pay the British Government secretly 14 million to basically do the dirty work of getting rid of the chagossians, and then proceeded to orchestrate the expulsion over the course of several years, and the late 1960s, early 1970s. From the beginning, the u. S. Government had the power to exiled the chagossians. Now, the Biden Administration has the power to finally make this right. This is a crime against humanity indeed that should have been corrected, should never have happened, should have been corrected by prior administrations. But the Biden Administration now has the ability to show the world, at a time when the Biden Administration is rightly criticizing other governments and their human rights records saudi arabia, china, among others at this time the Biden Administration has the ability to change policy and provide justice to the chagossians by allowing them to return home, by allowing compensation, assisting with the resettlement of chagossians in their homeland, the land that has been taken from them. Juan professor vine, sadly, what happened to these chagossians is not unique. Could you describe these bases wear their military basically runs roughshod over the local populations. David it is true and there are more than 20 cases in which the u. S. Military has displaced local people, often Indigenous People, like the chagossians as part of the expansion of u. S. Military bases around the world. That is just from the 19th century. In the 18th century, the u. S. Army in particular displaced millions of native american peoples across the north American Continent as part of their colonization and conquest of the continent. Chagossians are not alone. But there is another case that is sadly telling. In 1946, an island that the u. S. Navy occupied, small islands that are now a part of japan, the u. S. Navy assisted a local population, mostly white population of u. S. Ancestry, and returning to their home to live sidebyside with what was then a u. S. Navy base. They assisted in setting up schools, setting up local government, setting up a local economy. If the u. S. Navy, military, if the u. S. Government can help mostly white populations of u. S. Ancestry return to their homeland, their homes, in 1946, shirley, the u. S. Military, Biden Administration can do the same for the chagossians, a population of mostly african and indian ancestry, return to their homeland, the land of their ancestry today. Amy Olivier Bancoult, your message to people here in the United States as well as around the world . Olivier olivier my message on behalf of my people is to find out the way. We all want as human beings to be able to live in peace and harmony. I mentioned the international universal declaration. Everyone has the right to live where they are born. We want the right to be recognized. I give you one example. We, as chagossians, are not allowed to go to chagos to pay tribute to our parents that are buried there. We have a military that is wellmaintained. My message to the world, we are not asking for less or more. We are asking about our rights. We want the Biden Administration to apologize and make reparations for what they did wrong to our people. This is our message. We want more people to give us more support on our action. Amy Olivier Bancoult, thank you for being with us, chair of the chagos refugees group, and david vine. When we come back, we go to new mexico where a trump supporter wearing a maggot hat open fire on an indigenous led protest against the reinstallation of a statue honoring a 16thcentury spanish conquistador. One indigenous climate activist was shot and need to be airlifted for emergency surgery. We will speak to one of the activists who he waved a gun at but did not shoot or kill. Stay with us. [music break] amy music by a chagossian musician. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. With Juan Gonzalez. In new mexico, a 23yearold white supporter of donald trump has been charged with attempted murder for shooting an indigenous activist last week during a protest over the reinstallation of a statue of the violent spanish conquistador juan de onate. The shooting occurred in the city of espanola, new mexico. The gunman, who was wearing a red maga hat, opened fire and shot jacob johns who had to be airlifted to a hospital in albuquerque for emergency surgery. Johns is an indigenous activist, muralist, artist, and father. In two months, he is planning to lead the indigenous wisdom keepers delegation at the u. N. Climate summit in dubai cop28 to advocate for Indigenous Solutions to climate change. A gofundme collection to help with his medical expenses has already raised over 200,000. The shooting occurred while johns and other indigenous activists were protesting plans to reinstall a statue honoring the 16th century conquistador juan de onate, new mexicos first colonial governor, who in 1599, ordered a massacre that killed between 800 and 1,000 acoma Indigenous People. Three years ago, in june 2020, a former Albuquerque City Council candidate was arrested for shooting a protester four times at a demonstration calling for the removal of another juan de onate statue. During thursdays protest the s office, the office of the senator, date police come to the office of the new mexico state attorney general, all members of u. S. Congress member representing Valencia County, mx. Because representatives from Valencia County to warn them of the high chance of gun violence directed at attendees. State senator elizabeth the thought it was the only one to respond. A me to the after the shooting, Scott Williams father dan williams called the Governors Office again to tell her that she had blood on her hands for failing to properly respond to and prevent both shootings. Amy during thursdays protest in aspen yolo, the gunman also pointed a gun at malaya peixinho who joins us now from albuquerque. I know you are still suffering from the shock of what happened, the shooting of the indigenous activist, the gunman weaving his gun at you and others. Talk about your experience, what happened, and why you were all there in that peaceful action. Malaya absolutely. First of all, good morning. I will start with why we were there. They proposed to put out this statue, and there was a budget, a certain amount of money allotted. I didnt feel like it was right for our Community Money which could be spent on resources and support and healing of our community, to be spent on this statue. Thursday was not a protest. Thursday was a sunrise ceremony in the morning time, a celebration. We came together and prayed and celebrated as a family that we were able to postpone the statue. Juan could you talk about who was proposing to install this statue given the horrific history of juan de onate . If you could tell our viewers and listeners a little bit about his legacy. He was so cruel, even the Spanish Colonial government put him on trial, and they were extremely cruel toward native populations. Even he, they considered, had gone beyond the pale. Malaya sorry, the fee that i am getting is cutting in and out a little bit. I could not hear the whole question. You asked me about juan de onate and who he was as a man . That is a really interesting question. It brings up a lot of controversy in our community because, on one hand, there are the peoples whose ancestry and that history is that violence that he committed, was brought from that pain, suffering that he put our Indigenous People through. That is one side of it. On the other side of it, we have spanish people in our community, part of our valley, and he was there ancestry, what they feel pride in. There is a lot of Division Going on in our community. It is a really controversial thing to talk about juan de onate. As important as it is to recognize his violence and how much he hurt people, it was less about him as a man and more about the fact that i see pain and suffering in our community. I see how some funds for the missing and murdered indigenous women, funds for our alarming rates of overdoses, housing crisis, that feels more important than funding a statue being resurrected. Juan the response on governor lujan, for her to be aware that there was possible violence, how do you feel she responded in this situation . Malaya after the incident, i have just been with family, have not been looking at politician responses to the incident. I feel they had a duty to protect us. From the morning time, the shooter was there, watching us. It was brought to the attention of the police that people felt uncomfortable with him there. So, they had a duty to protect us. It is my personal opinion that they did not do that. When you see a rally of people and then you see an Opposing Side starting to form, you show up. They did not show up for us. That is what i have to say about that. Amy you are 23. Apparently this white gunman who shot johns is 23, as well. I want to turn to palestinian activist Mohammed Elkurd speaking at the rally only 15 minutes before jacob johns was shot. I am so disgusted by the people here have Nothing Better to do, whose lives are so empty, that they have Nothing Better to do than to celebrate the legacy of a murderous war criminal. Life could be so much better. You could build a much better legacy. You could wash your hands of this blood. Yet, you decide to do this. Not only should these statues come down, but all lands must be given back. Amy soon after he spoke, 15 minutes later, the gunman shot jacob jones. Malaya, you are still coping with the violence against all of you. Your response to him being charged with attempted murder . As we heard before, there was such knowledge of the possible threats of gun violence against your action. Malaya. Malaya im sorry, the ending cut out a little bit. Amy if you could respond to the charges, the gunman being charged with attempted murder. Also if you could tell us how jacob johns is doing, and how you are doing. You all experienced his shooting and the threatening of shooting you and others. Malaya that is a really good question. Thank you for checking in on how we are all doing. It means a lot. I think his charge for attempted firstdegree murder, aggravated assault, because he pointed the gun at me, i think that is fair. He came there, watching his attitude, the way that he carried himself before hand, it felt like he was getting himself ready. You know, he would go to the altar, invade a sacred space. It felt like there was preparation on both sides and specifically for him, his own mental preparation. My father has been checking in with jacobs family as much as we can. Last we heard he is doing ok and recovering. We just put out lots and lots of prayers that his breathing is good, his voice is good. In the morning time, he came and sang us some songs. As a community, we just want to hear jacob sing a song like that. As far as im doing, i am ok because i have a community that is full of love and compassion and humanity. Ever since this, there has not been a moment where i have not been taken care of, so i am blessed in that way. Amy malaya peixinho attended thursdays peaceful action over the planned reinstallment of a statue of the violent spanish colonizer juan de onate in espanola, new mexico. Thank you for being with us. Coming up, we speak to two researchers with the la raza Database Project that reveals the number of brown and black People Killed by police in the United States may be more than double the amount that is widely reported. Back in 30 seconds. [music break] amy we were all mistaken. Fuerza obsoletas two accompanied the la raza Database Project we are talking about now. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. With Juan Gonzalez. We turn to a shocking report that reports a 5000 people have been killed in the essence 2000 and a number of brown and black People Killed by police maybe doubled the amount reported. La raza Database Project was founded by the late roberto dr. Cintli rodriguez. He was a professor of mexicanamerican studies at the university of arizona who himself survived a root of Police Assault when sheriffs deputies beat him for taking pictures of them beating another man. He spent the rest of his life writing about fighting Police Brutality and writing about chicano culture. He joined democracy now in 2021 to discuss how preliminary findings of the raza Database Projects preliminary report, shown in deaths of latin and Indigenous People were undercounted by a quarter to onethird in National Databases and were virtually ignored by the media. One of the things that we ask ourselves as a group, should we count all deaths in custody, etc. . Particularly the ones that are unjustified, but what happens if you dont have a judicial system that works . I would say 99. 9 impunity both in the killings. You can count on one hand, a finger or two to spare, of Police Officer doing hard time. 50 years to life. Personally i think that is the actual solution. Until you see that, you will not see anything. No one will fix anything. All the cops had to say is i feared for my life, and that absolves everything. Amy the late roberto dr. Cintli rodriguez. For more on the formal release of the raza Database Project, we are joined by its project manager, Ivette Xochiyotl boyzo, a Mental Health patient and civil and human rights advocate, and by jesus garcia, a demographer statistician on the project. Welcome to you both. Jesus, explain what you found. Jesus thank you for the opportunity to be here with you. Roberto asked me to participate in this project on a voluntary basis. More or less as you heard, he knew what the subject matter was but he was not able to articulate the statistics. Over the past two years i have been looking at data from open sourced information. The results are that the latino population, spanish surnames, are killed, about 6500 between 2000 and 2022. That is in over 2000 increase from what some estimates say at 4500. Equally important is the asian population count. The asian population count has gone from just about under 500 two over 2000 deaths, 75 increase. Our goal at this project was to not only address the missing information for latinos but overall, the impact on all of our communities of color, all disenfranchised people. To tell you the truth, this has been a difficult project to work on personally. This is not my fortte but roberto asked me to participate in this project and i think the results are pretty groundbreaking, the beginning, not the end, for the discussions on this. Juan i wanted to ask him in terms of the increases in numbers, could you talk about what were the weaknesses of the previous counts . For instance, the Washington Post study they did about police deaths, you found there were a significant number of people who were listed with no racial identity initially or as other and you were able to track down more clearly their snake or racial origin. Talk about that process. Jesus first of all, there is no federal standard for collection of this information, not at the department of justice, center for disease control, so the task of collecting data as it is has fallen on these open sources, in fact, on individuals. Mapping police violence, you mentioned the Washington Post and others. In the collection of this information, it is compiled basically by independent people. This is a very good reason for having good, independent media. Without a federal collection, independent sources are the ones compiling the list. When you are doing these crowdsourcing kinds of information, there will be gaps. Gaps like the race, ethnicity of an individual. In many cases there are no names, places. There are a host of issues with the data. I was able to merge these different data sets into one, and because of my background, i was able to try and assign missing race and ethnicity based on the u. S. Census bureaus surname list. It has taken two years to get to this point but it is because of independent sources. I also need to think cal state university, the technology tools. These things are not easy to do. It takes specialized skills. We have been able to assemble a team of people, technologies to get us to this point. I feel the data is fairly accurate. As i mentioned, much more to do, but i stand by the counts we have. Terrible numbers to look at, but like anything else, it is the beginning of hopefully the healing of this very difficult time in our country. Juan i wanted to ask, you also found a significant increase in the number of whites killed by police, didnt you, in your study . Jesus yes. The initial data of the over 33,000 deaths included over 9000 unknown or other. Included in that count was white ethnicity at about 11,300. Over the course of the new results, i was able to supplement that by nearly 5000 individuals. The current count of people classified as white nonhispanic is over 16,000 people. They comprise 50 of the deaths. One thing i have to note, among the africanamerican population, africanamericans represented about well percent of the u. S. Population. However, they are a quarter of all of that. No matter what you think out there politically, the data is clear. There is something happening that is greatly impacting our africanamerican communities. The results are stark and bare. Yes, the white count did increase, but so did all other counts on race and ethnicity. Amy i wanted to bring in Ivette Xochiyotl boyzo into the conversation, project manager for la raza Database Project. It is hispanic parentage month heritage month. So sorry that we were not also speaking to Roberto Rodriguez today since he was going to bring us the final report. We lost him in the last years. His significance, his imprint on this, but also in particular, ivette, if you could talk about the Sexual Violence against particularly migrant women. Ivette thank you so much for having me. Absolutely, the reports, the research we have done is groundbreaking, revolutionary in itself. Unfortunately, it has only given Police Brutality that we can prove. One of the only types of violences that we have data for. We dont have a National Account or any data and it comes to violence against women. Especially when it comes to migrants which is even more alarming. As you know, there are forced sterilizations within detention centers. Women have been forced to be sterilized as part of their probation term in this country. When we look at people being affected mostly by these types of genocidal practices, it is women of color. If you asked me, under international law, these are crimes against humanity, genocide. It is so unfortunate there is not any actual collection of information of these types of violence is, crimes against humanity. Juan what was most surprising to you as you were compiling the data, getting a final report . Ivette unfortunately, there was not much of a surprise. Within the indigenous, migrant, undocumented community, any community of color, this is just a new reflection of the truth that we have known for a long time. We know that violence has existed from the conception of this country and it just continues to evolve and takes a different name and role. I think what is most disturbing out of this is the impunity rate, how the judicial system has been set in place to hold people accountable, that people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Yet, we see people with a weapon and badge, and they determine who lives and dies basically under their discretion, with no proper training, no adequate tools. This is affecting thousands and thousands of people in the United States. Amy we have to end here but we will conduct the interview in spanish as well and post it to democracynow. Org. Ivette xochiyotl boyzo, jesus ga hello, and welcome to nhk newsline. Im Catherine Kobayashi new york. U. S. House speaker kevin mc mccarthy had just succeeded on a deal to avoid a government shutdown, but now he has been removed from his post. The first time in