Emirates to take this step to become only the third arab state to do this. Effectively it smashes whatever unity was left in the arab world towards israel really is a huge, huge step. Having said that, however, there is no doubt that in one sense this only puts formality to a relationship which p pretty muc existed in any case, although nobody spoke openly about it. I think the key issues probably for the United Arab Emirates were iran, shared concern with israel, and also saudi arabia, of course, on the position of iran. The prospect that doing a deal with israel would open the doors to closer ties with the United States and in particular the supply of weaponry, sophisticated weaponry that it couldnt get its hands on so long as it didnt recognize israel, but also the question of the annexation. This was at the heart, i think, of the decision to go ahead with it. They were concerned, like with saudi arabia, that if annexation went ahead, it wouldnt just be the end of the possible twostate deal that everybody has hankered for, for so long, it would bring chaos, violence to the middle eaeast again. I think it wanted to back away from that. What it wouldnt get thrhrough this deal,l, w what the israelie calling suspension, but what in reality must surely be an toned the prospect an end to the prospect of annexation. The israelis will nonot pull ou of this deal if it means jeopardidizing this deal with t United Arab Emirateses and the prospect further down the road of other ararab stateses recogng israel as well. Bahrain, for instance, seeeems be a posossibility. The icing on the cake would clearly be recognition by s sau arabia. Israel knows 100 that if it annexes of this deal, the west banknk, any possssiblel wiwith saudi arabia would go ou the window, plus pressusure fro the United States as well. Israel would not annex the west bank w without thehe goaheadd the e unitedtatates. So the chances, i think, of israel backing out of this deal are pretty slim. The United Arab Emirates must recognize t that as w well. So for them, although this has opprobium, lot of the crcriticism from t turkey, as well, the positives that come out of this clearly outweigh the negatives. What is in it for u. S. President donald trump . Well, this isnt the p peace dealal of f the century, obvbvi but that wasas slipping out of s grasp in any case. There was so much opppposition annexation around the world and in particular in the arab world and saudi arabia in particular. The americaca have been wanting to edge away from thatat in any case. Its not the big deal ththat donald trump has wanted, but it does give him a diplomatic featather in his cap just befor the election. Will it be decisive in any way . I suspect not. Will it p play well to his base . Of course, it will. Benjamin netanyahu and israel, this is a big, big triumph. He is going through really difficultt times at the moment, with the reaction to the failure of the Israeli Government t to deal competently with the coronavirus really weighing ono Israeli Society he moment. This makes him look good. This is just months before he goes on t trial, corruptition charges. He n needs something positive, d hes got it with this. For israel to achieve greatly with another arab state on this without making any concessions to the palestinians on two states, for him and for israel a pretty big move. Historic in itself. Thank you very much for that, rob parsons reporting. The bodies of six french aid workers killed at a reserve in niger will be flown him this afternoon. Their deaths have b been terledn act ofof terrorism and accordid toto a frencnch judicial source ttack targeting westerners was premeditated. To the coronavirus pandemic next, here in france the capital paris and the department where the city of marseille are located have been declared red zones. Local authorities will have the power to limit access to public buildings and close establishments where there is a high risk of infection. Two french departments could see stronger measures to control the spread of covid19. Paris and another town are classified as red lines, meaning the coronavirus are actively circulating there. In paris there are 61. 2 cases every 100,000 inhantyabts inhabitants. [speaking french] labeling the departments high risk zones means local authorities can impose tougher restrictions aimed a at stoppin the spread of the virus. These include restricting access to pubublic transport and airir travel, closing establishments like restaurants, and extending the compulsory facemask rule to other outdoor areas. In paris not everyone is onboard with the idea of stricter rules. [speaking french] [speaeaking french] on thursday france reportete cases. Than 2,000 new new cases are rising fasters among people age 15 and 44. Paris says it will retaliate after britain reimposed quararantine for travelers returnrning from france. The measure which goes into effect early tomorrow morning will likely spark a mass exodus of nearly half a million british tourists in france. Other e. U. States including malta have been added to the u. K. s quarantine list. For more on this story, we can go to our reporter standing by in london. I am sure you know this, but go from saturday to saturday, how are british travelers currently in the country who wont be able to make it back in time react to this news . Well, if you listen too the British Government, theyre saying these people knew the risks. So yes, of couourse, it will be very bad news for t those peopl some are trying to forward the return and that is the worry y because thehe british govovernm has made it very clear that tens of thousands of brits in fraran holidaying wont all m make it back in time by what is 4 00 a. M. British time, 3 00 in the morning g. M. T. Check with your airline, check with your travel operators and for the money that you could lose, well, thats something that you will just have to take onboard. That was a risk. Its been a week now that we have had these rumors and itit now official. Theeadline is 3 3 00 a. M. G. M. T. Its thought that 160,000 brits re holidaying in france. Jets are running a full schedule. The channel tunnel, if you are taking your car, its fully booked until tomorrow so you are not going to have any joy there. As for eurostar, the passenger train, it says it still has capacity. But they can take fewer peoplpl because of the covid19 restrictions. Brits trying t to make it back time and also cause for the british hospitality Tourism Industry and of course the french tourism and Hospitality Industry and economy. Now france was on the quarantine list. It was taken off the quararanti list. Why has it been put back on now . Its been put pack on, say the British Government and the transport sector. This was triggered by the rise , covid19 cases in france indeed acknowledged by the french Prime Minister and crucially what the technical problem. Can you hear me now . Yeah, we can hear you. Ontinue. It looks like we lost benedicte. In other news new zealands Prime Minister has extended lockdown in auckland. Health Authorities Say they need more time e to track andnd trace strain of covid19 patriotism unseen in the country previously unseen in the country. Stome orderers will remain sy at home ororders will remainin effect. New zealand says harsh measures aree needed to prevent a second wave of the coronavirus. The belarussian leader who fled the country is calling on her supporters to demand a recount. In a video, she asked supporters to back an official investigation into allegation that the vote was rigged. Foreign ministers are discussing the situation after lukashenko secured 80 of the vote. Sanctions are called for those who violated democratic values. Following their release from prison on friday morning, some protersers described the violence they witnessed both when they were arrested and hile incarcerated. [speaking foreign language] thousands of peoplele havan detatained i recent days in a Police Crackdown on Peaceful Demonstrations against the reelection of president lukashenko. The interior minister has apologized for the treatment of protesters by security forces. I take responsibility for what they say was violence against those people who failed to back off quickly enough. He was releshted on sunday. Every day since thousands of people have come out in protest against the results they say are fraud lint. Lukashenko has stated only employees were participating in the demonstrations. Both the United States and European Union have condemned the election and treatment of protesters. Afghanistans government has begun releasing some 400 prisoners. Their release was a precondition they set to sit down for negotiations with the government. Peace talks are expected to begin within d days of the fulu releasase. Here is s our r report. A part towards peace or cae for more friction . Prisoners were released on thursday. Made to face government cameras as soon as they left their jail cells. [speaking foreign language] t the group repreresents the first ofof a total batch of 400 prisoners to be set free. In an exchange that should last several days. Its a move seen as crucially important to the success of peace talks between afghan authorities and the taliban following a u. S. Brokered peace deal in february. The longdelayed deal hasas stipulated that they release militants in return for 1,000 Afghan Government prisoners. While kabul release the prisoners, it balked at freeing the final 400. With many of the remaining inmates involved in the bloodiest attacks that killed scores of foreigners. On monday upon the vote of the countrys grand assembly, the presidident issued a decree to pardon and release them. [speaking foreign language] under the peace agreement, u. S. And natoled Coalition Forces will leave afghanistan by july next year. But the process could be drawn out further still as it requires he taliban to abide by the agreement. Thank you very much for watching. Good evening and welcome to the interview on france 24. This edition is dedicated 0 t ta ok entitledwe still have words between two men who are opposed. He lost his son, one of the assailants who visited there. Thank you to both of you. He prefers to conceal his face which we respect. I turn first to you. A few years ago, mr. Animo made contact with you to propose a dialogue with you. He said he was a victim. You may have found this puzzling. Now this book is coming. Why did you a accept the e dial . Since the very day which followed the 30th of november, michael has been to find out how can we prevent future tragedies like this and what contribution i could make to this prevention . Military action or Police Action are very important. But i dont see myself contributing effectively in that way. But things need to be done in terms of prevention to not fall into the trap set by terrorists which consisist o of organizing reliligious war on our territor and to provoke the six billion muslims who live in the country against the rest of the population. No, i suppose there was some apprehension at the first contact. A little bit of worry and perplexity. I didnt know what he wanted of me. I wasnt shocked by the fact that he saw himself also as a victim of what his son had done with his accomplices because i had already had opportunities to meet the mothers of jihadists who were themselves muslim women atheists n women or and who saw their children leave for the jihad and lose their lives. In most cases i could see their great distress, their great sadness. The loss of their child and form of guilt and we were asking questions about their responsibility for what they had become. You st of all, why did decide to conceal your face . This is something arguers might wonder about, but also i would like to know in this book, you say that your son has become almost taboo in the conversation, so why did you decide to talk about him with the parent of a victim here . Well, hello. Well, i chose not to be filmed because i dont want to be a media star and i dont want to be exposed and take useless risks in this terrible world. So i wanted to remain anonymous for the moment. Now then the second part of the question, you said it in the book that the subject of your son has become taboo and yet you decided to take it up in this book. Why . Yes, i preferred to express myself. I hahad read articless and interviews which salin has given and i saw him on the media, so i said to myself, i am going to try and get in touch with him as i have also got in touch with other survivors and families of victims, and i have met them. So i think its a good thing. Its a good thing to meet to explain to him and to to show my feelings and to condemn firmly the acts of violence which have nothing to do with thisis there are muslimsms a islam. Each person interprets this in is or her own way and to try nd reveal the radicalization phenomenon and to support the families of the victims. This book, this dialogue, takes a lot of courage, i suppose has met with skepticism on the part of families of victims. I didnt ask anybody for permission except on part of my wife and my sons, who have understood my approach and today the people with whom i talk about this and who are either members of the association or and ds are very interested very respectful and i know that there will be criticism by people, a lot of people hate me because i dont hate sufficiently in their view. But they must understand that i hate the terrorists and what they have d de u unreserervedly. I c cant forgiveve them. M. But i refuse absolutely to putu in the same category all muslims with whom i t even have had opportunities to talk about these questions, i dont think we should make the parents, brothers, sisters, children responsible for an act permitted by another person. In this pook, we understand that you try book, we understand that you try to bring back to the right path. You went to syria but i understand you were not able to speak with him at all during that time and reading between the lines we get the impression that you did not dare to do enough. Do you believe that you could have done more . Yes, of course. When you put things into per per spentive, you feel guilty, should have done this or that but its not obvious if you look at the topic in context, its not obvious when i decided to see him, i was very motivated. Things took on a different aspect. I fell ill. I stayed in a small hotel. I was intoxicated. It lasted two weeks. When i crossed the border, i didnt have any rest because the next day was ramadan so i had to fast. The day after, there was a lot it was the because day on which they proclaimed the caliphate and i stayed for four days and we didnt Even Exchange two or three words. It was very difficult now i am going to try and have a rest and then come back with some scenarios and try to do something. Unfortunately, a few days later, there were bombings again and i as unable do much. In this book, you talk about the child hooth of your children, your childhood of your children, your sons. Were you trying to get closer . To try to understand. I try to understand how a terrorist is made. Why do young people this is a big question since november 30. My daughter was 28. How to young people of that age howow can they y kill othersy dodont know . Violence. Of delirious its something difficult to understand. It seems to me essential to understand in order to prevent such acts. I work a lot in schools. To to contribute preventive action. I need to understand. My curiosity was an important factor and the second factor, i think it was important to write a book and to publish the book and do what we are doing t toda to show that we can talk to each other. And i i thinkgether dialogue between people of different cultures in our country is absolutely essential and needs to be defended. Its a signal and example. The striking thing here, you discuss politics, religion, but also movies. Is there i mentioned something therapeutic about it . Yes, absolutely. Its a therapy. I wanted do this with george. Its an oxymoron, the father of a victim with a father of one of the attackers, and its an oxymoron with my son as well. The childhood, i had all ingredients to become a terrorist, a great terrorist even. I experienced poverty, contemp, humiliation, racism, poverty, and even imprisonment at the age of 11. When i compare this with the life i gave my sons, children, he had everything he needed. He went on holiday in the mountains skiing. He went to the seaside. He flew in planes several times. He drove experienced fivestar hotels. I didnt understand. Cant realize listening to you we quite understand that the book where theshared your testimony in book does not have all the answers but it raises the right ququestions. 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