Time, democrat carol sheaporter of New Hampshire we look at the movement to impeach in our extended conversation with constitutional attorney john bonifaz. Then we continue to speak with dr. Bandy lee, the yale psychiatrist who is leading a discussionon of Mental Health professionals, deeplyly concernd ababout President Trumps psychological ststability. She e organinized the duty to wn conference and edited the book the dangerous case of donald trump 27 psychiatrists and Mental Health experts assess a president. We are pushing for an evaluation, warning about dangerousness, exley trying ours our best to educate the public so people will be aware. In whatl be affirmed theyre saying. They will be educated on the depths of what they are seeing, and also that there is a way of dealing with the situation. And go but first, an update on a future ofd shape the the right to protest in the United States. Final arguments are underway today in washington, d. C. , for the first trial of the nearly 200 demonstrators arrested during President Trumps inauguration. The defendants face alterable felony and misdedemeanor charges and up to 50 years in prison. All of that a more, coming up. Welcome to democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. The federal Communications Commission known as the fcc has voted to dismantntle landmark nt neutrality rules designed to keep the internet open and free. The votete repeals rules established in 2015 after widespread organizing and prototests by frequent it advocates. These rules required Service Providers to treat web content equally. The repeal of these rules was widely opposed by the American Public with more than 20 Million People submitting comments to the fcc. Paitrumps chairman ajit lobbied heavily to repeal the rules. On thursday coming was joined by two fellow republican fcc commissioners and the fcc voted three to two to repeal the rules. Thursdays vote means internet Service Providers could now slow down Internet Speed and jacack p prices. Thurursdays vote also meansns e govevement will l no longer regulate highspeed internet as if it were a public utility like phone service. On thursday, new York Attorney general Eric Schneiderman vowed to sue to block the repeal. New yorkers deserve a free and open internet, and that is why my office will sue to stop illegal rollblback of net. We will be filing a claim to preserve protections f for new yorkers and all americans and working progressively to stop the fccs leadership from doing any further damage to the internet and our economy. Amy the fccs vote to repeal Net Neutrality is the latest and most controversial of a series of changes led by fcc chair ajit pai. Over the last year, he is loosened rules aimimed at limitg media consolidation and scale back a program aimed at expanding broaoadband access amg lowincome amemericans. The fcc chair pai is a former verizon attorney. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson is speakining to the u. N. Secucy is is speakingng to the u. N. Security council today, in which hes expected to again recommend talks and diplomacy with north korea a stance that puts him at odds with President Trump. Earlier this week, tillerson broke with the administration and said the United States was ready to begin talks with the north without precondition. Only hours later, White House Press secretary Sarah Huckabee sanders contradicted tillerson and said President Trump considers talks with north korea pointless. The public rift between tillerson and President Trump comes amid reports the white house is planning to oust tillerson from the state department and replace him with cia director mike pompeo. The Trump Administration is trying to claim iran v violatedn International Agreement on arms transfers, even though experts say the evidence presented thursday by u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. Nikki haley falls short of proving the claims. At a military base in washington, d. C. , haley presented pieces of weapons she claims iran supplied to the houthi militia fighting in yemen. Haley claimed the weaponry proves iran violated a United NationsSecurity Council resolution passed in 2015. But military officials were not able to say when the weapons were transferred, when they were used, or in some cases, where they had even been found. Despite the inconclusive evidence, haley used thursdays event as an opportunity to attack iran and the landmark 2015 iran nuclear deal. Everyone has focused on the nuclear deal. The has hidden behind nuclear joe, constantly threatening to get out of it. But these are the things they are doing while we are all looking the other way. And these are the things that will be dangerous, that will lead us to the next north korea if we dont do something to stop it. Amy in washington, d. C. , the republicans legislation to overhaul the u. S. Tax code in an order to shower billions of dollars upon the richest americans anand major corporatis appears to b be hanging by a thread. Two republican senatators mao rubio of florida and mike lee of utah have threatened to vote against the bill unless the Child Tax Credit is expanded. Republicans are pushing ahead for a vote as early as next week. Vice president mike pence has canceled a trip to the middle east s so he can be in washingt, d. C. C. , in case hes ququired to cast the tiebreaking vote. A fourth u. S. Lawmaker has been forced from congress over allegations of Sexual Harassment or assault. Texas Republican Congress member Blake Farenthold says he will not seek reelection after revelations he paid 84,000 of taxpayer money in a 2014 Sexual Harassment settlement with his former communications director, lauren greene. Greene says shes been forced to resort to babysitting and other jobs to make ins meet after ends meet after farenthold blackballed her from politics when she accused him of Sexual Harassment, gender discrimination a and creating ga hohostile work environment. Meanwhile, the Screen Actors Guild awards will, for the first time, have only women present the 13 acting awarards during te ceremony on january 21. The Award Ceremony will also feature a female host, kristen bell. Ththis comeses as actresses acrs hollywood have spoken out about Sexual Harassment, assault, and rape by hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein and other top directorors and producers. In geneva, u. N. Sponsored peace talklks aimed at ending g the ongoing wawar in syria have collllapsed. U. N. Special envoy Staffan De Mistura pipinned the blame largy on the syrian government, which refused to discuss constitutional changes or president ial elections. This is now the eighth round of u. N. N. Sponsored peace talks on the syrian conflict. In the wake of the talks collapse, Syrian Opposition chief negotiator sasr alhariri appealed to the International Community. The International Community needs a new approach, otherwise, this stalemate will continue. Unfortunately, it t will be at e expense of the syrians, inside and outside the country. Amy top mexican o officials met thursday witith secretary of ste Rex Tillerson and Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen to discuss increasing military and intelligence cooperation between the u. S. And mexico in the ongoing socalled war on drugs. The meeting came only one day after Mexican Senate committees approvoved a highly controroverl military bill that human Rights Groups say will give the Mexican Armed forces excessive power. The United Nations, amnesty international, and human Rights Groups all oppose the legislation, saying it will further empower military forces that are already accused of widespread human rights abuses, including complicity in the disappearance of 43 students in the Southern State of guerrero. Meanwhile caravan of central , thursday, a american mothers searching for their children who disappeared in mexico while trying to migrate to the United States protested outside the us United States protested outside the u. S. Embassy in mexico city. Earlier this month, the United States withdrew from talks on a United Nations agreement promoting safe migrationon. This is gloria mariana, a honduran mother whose son went missing in mexico while trying to reach the United States. It is constant anguish. It is eternal anguish. It is whenever you eat or sleep. Your mind is only thinking of them. Missing my sons birthday, mothers s day. For me, there is no christmas. It is horrible what you go through. Amy in argentina, widespread protests both inside and outside the lower house of congress forced lawmakers to suspend a vote on president Mauricio Macris plan to slash pensions. Labor unions say the legislation will hurt retired workers and people on welfare. The unions had threatened a general strike if the measure passed. The Rwandan Government has accused the French Military of widespread complicity in the 1994 genocide in rwanda. The independent report released wednesday accuses the french mimilitary of training and armig the rwanandan regime that killld 800,000 people, mostly from the tutsi ethnic minority. The report says the French Military continued to arm the genocidal regime, even after an arms embargo was imposed. The son of the french president at the time was a close friend of the rwandan leader whose regime orchestrated ththe genocide. Back in the United States, President Trumps Senior AdviserOmarosa Manigault newman has resigned, she says after witnessing a series of upsetting incidents inside the white house. The former contestant on the Reality Tv Show the apprentice, she was the only africanamerican woman in trumps inner circle. There are conflicting reports about her departure. Only hours after the Roy Mooredoug Jones senate race in alabama tuesday, with some reports saying she was forcibly removed from the white house and other reports saying she resigned voluntarily. In a series of interview since her departure, she is criticized the nearly allwhite administration, saying the members had never worked with minorities and did not know how to interact with them. She refusedorts a to condemn the deadly white supremacist violence in charlottesville, virginia. This is Omarosa Manigault newman speaking on Good Morning America and. D. Is only africanamerican woman in this white house, as a senior staff andnd assistant to the e president , ive seen thins that have made me uncomfortable, that have upset me, that have affected me deeply and emotionally, that has affected my community and my people. Amy United States largest private landlord has been sued for violating the Fair Housing Act by refusing to rent to tenants with a criminal record. The lawsuit,t, filed by the equl rights cenenter, says the companys policy of not renting to people with felony convictions, or even p pending felony charges, has a disproportionate a adverse impmt on African Americans and latinos. Midamerica apartments owns at least 100,000 apartments nationwide. And the ohio senate has passed a new bill that would make it illegal for women to have an abortion in cases where the fetus has down syndrome. The legislation would make it a felony for doctors to perform abortions after tests reveal the fetus has the genetic condition. The bill is now headed to the desk of Ohio Governor john kasich. And thosose are some of thee headlines. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We begin todays show with an update on a case that could shape the future of free speech and ththe right toto protest ine United States. Final arguments are underway today in washington, d. C. , for the first t trial of the nearly 200 people arrested during President Trumps inauguration. As demonstrators, journalists, and observers gathered in northwest d. C. After the inauguration january 20, some separated from the group and broke windows of nearby businesses and damaged cars. Police officers then swept hundreds of people in the vicinity into a blockaded corner in a process known as kettling, where they carried out mass arrests of everyone in the area. The first socalled j20 trial could go to a jury as early as today, and involves six people, including one journalist, alexei wood, a freelance photojournalist. The defendants face multiple felony and misdemeanor charges, including multiple counts of destruction of property. Evidence against the defendants has been scant from the moment of their arrest. Earlier this week, superior court judge Lynn Leibovitz threw out the felony charge of inciting a riot for the six people on trial now, meaning they now face up to 50 years in prison instead of 60. This comes as Police Conduct on inauauguration day h has come ur scrutiny by the aclu, and the chief detective in the case is a police Union Official who tweeted that day that they showed great restraint during the inauguration. Well, for more, were joined in washington, d. C. , by jude ortiz, a member of the organizing crew of defend j20 and the Mass Defense Committee chair for the National Lawyers guild. Hes been in court throughout this first j20 t trial. Welcome back to democracy now explain what has h happened so r and the significance of the judge throwing out the charge. Thank you so much for having me on again. So since i was on last, the prosecutor has rested their entire case with all of the socalled evidence against the defendants and the defense has also put on their witnesses as part of their right to have witnesses come and testify on their behalf. That process for the defense was very short, only about half a day in court. Now it is into the final arguments stage. The prosecutors have their argument first, then each of the Defense Attorneys for the defendant put on their arguments. This morning at 9 30, there will be the final to defendants with closing arguments and in the prosecutor will do a rebuttal. There will be more legal housekeeping to do before it goes to the jury. The judge throwing out the riot charge was a Huge Development in the case, something that after the prosecutor rest their case, the defense attorney will almost always follow motion to have the charges dismissed. Is a formality for the most part, rarely ever successful. It was notable that one of the the significant charges against the defendants, not only whole, trial, but as a was found in this case, at least, that no evidentiary basis at all. The judge basically said the state did not meet their burden of proof and that charge was dismissed. The jury will not have to deliberate on that one at all. Amy explain what that means. Were talking about numerous cases that will follllow this o. Ththis is judge preside over all of these cases is the inciting to riot remains in other cases . At this point, the judge is assigned to the other cases. There is another case scheduled for this coming monday for seven defendants, without probably will not be happening on monday because the jury will still be deliberating on this day. It is unclear when the second trial will begin. It is looking like january. On march 5 of next year through october of next year are through many trials. Starting in may, theres a trial scheduled for every single week. The judge has indicated her rotation, her job assignment is switching from criminal court to family Court January 2. So there will be a new judge or judges beginning in 2018. Amy why du see this case as so significant t for free speech in the United States . On january 20, the police rounded up everyone they could get a hold of in the vicinity. The Police Commander testified toward the beginning of the both ins very clear testimony as well as recordings from the police radio that they were interested in the protest as an antifascist march and they responded to that preemptively by having around 100 riot cops and her lieutenants and sergeants and whatnot there at logan circle where the protest was scheduled to depart from and began. That commanders said that rather than doing what is typical in d. C. Where they do rolling road closures to facilitate the exercise of free speech, instead they showed up with numerous fans full of riot police and follow the march and pretty much started to crack down on the march. That commander repeatedly used the word anarchist to describe everyone there. That commander and other officers talked about everyone being like one group with nefarious intent. The the outset because of alleged politics of the march and the people who were there, the Police Responded in a heavyhanded manner that cohen dated them running everyone up in mass arrest. The prosecutors continue by Going Forward with these charges against everyone. Ofn that is the method operations, for the police going handinhand with the prosecutor, that is sending a very chilling message to anyone interested in going out in the streets. The rise of fascism, dissent to white supremacycy, these other systems of oppression. Amy jude, the second ranking prosecutor who made closing arguments said in those arguments, a street medic was guilty by being present and asked, what do you need a medic with gauze for . She was aiding and abetting the riot. That was her role. E. Respond to that. That is entirely ludicrous claim. Medics have been a protests across the country for decades to be able to provide first aid type of care to people who are injured in various ways. One of the most notable ways people get injured is by actions from the police. On january 20, there was a massive amount of pepper sprayed pepper spray deployed on people in the phase come on the side or from behind. We saw this in trials through Body Worn Camera videos. Theres also a lot of Body Worn Cameras videos of police knocking people down from behind with their batons. Ranofficer who testified his bike directly into a protester. There are all these different ways that people who are out there in the streets can get injured easily. Also the elements to deal with. In january, it is very cold. Protestinauguration data were 20, lots of reasons why to have medics there in order to render aid who get injured. The prosecutors said supplies that were there showed that the medics in general were prepared for war, which is as insulting as ludicrous to say people out there in the streets were prepared for war. Especially when he saw the department of Homeland Security helicopter video showing all of the Police Operations happening there on inauguration day, how the police took this paramilitary approach. Also reported by the National Guard in order to corral people and use chemical weapons against people. Any warlike conditions, it is coming from the police and government and not people there to render aid. Amy i want to ask about s somef the videos submitted as evidence in this case by federal prosecutors. This includes video by the canadian Youtuber Lauren southern, who the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as tiptoe at the precipice of outright white nationalism. Southern was there on january 20 and was kettled during the protest, but was allowed to leave without being arrested. Prosecutors also s submitteded o evidence from the rightwing Militia Group oath keeeepers, wo infiltrated protest planning meetings and secretly recorded them. Prosecutors also presented video from the discredited, farright Group Project veritas just one day after the Washington Post reported project veritas had tried to dupe them with a false story of Sexual Misconduct by a woman u uercover prpretendg to be a victim of roy moore. Go into this and why this matters, jude ortiz. It is appalling to see so inh of the prosecutions case the socalled evidence coming sources. Tly far right the project veritas video you mentioned the come out in the courtroom as a main piece of evidence, exactly like one day after that story broke. Lde would think that wou discredit or cast into doubt the truthfulness or usefulness of that evidence. The prosecutor and the Police Officer who testified about it gave no indication that the source of it was at all even a question mark or some cause of concern. The state through various witnesses, detectives who testified about the video and whatnot, it admitted they did furthering investigation or examination of the tape to make sure it wasnt doctored in some way. Project veritas is the tory us for editing their videos notorious for editing their videos. It was presented to the jury as a main piece of evidence. Especially with the idea of conspiracy. When so much of the socalled evidence against these defendants and the defendants at this kind of on socalled investigative work of far right actors, it really shows how the state itself with their police investigators, undercover cops infiltrating meetings, undercover and Plainclothes Police present on the march and in the streets that day, all of these different state actors were not able to find the evidence to substantiate the charges the prosecutor so ferociously pursuing, so they have create the Evidentiary Base through drawings on the far r right. Amy i would ask about the main detective working full time on the j20 case, greggory pemberton. On january 20, pemberton made tweeted that d. C. Police officers used a inspiring amount of restraint and showed professionalism. Last november, he also tweeted about disingenuous activists who peddle lies and falsehood. During the j20 trial, defense lawyers played this clip of an interview pemberton gave to the farright media outlet one america news network, praising President Trump. H he certainly has a messagef lalaw andndrder. He really is a a feeling to o at ofof Police Officers. Police officers want to hear someone is going to come in and not allow this divisive, vivitriolic rhetoric c of this e narrative that all Police Officers are inherently criminal, racist, that are out here committing crimes against the citizens, and that theyre going to come in and put a stop to that. Amy jude ortiz, can you u respd to the significance of his involvlvement with the case and what he is saying here . The detective has claimed he has looked through hundreds of hours of videos, hundreds of times, since january 21 come his fulltime job, his only assignment. He was able to that review to coalition boards of photographs as well as video and powerpoint to give to the jury for the deliberation that claims to have documentation of vilification of each of the defendants all throughout the march. In presenting those as if that is something that being present in the streets is a sign of guilt and evidence of guilt of all of these charges. The tremendous amount of work put into these very politically motivated reasons. Those political motivations are pretty clear when you look at his twitter feed with all of the far right and protrump thinks he has promoted light through likes in his own comments on twitter. He claimed on the stand that was only exercise of his position as a board member of the police union. The weather that is true or his own personal opinion, those opinions put forward are very much in favor of rightwing causes and very much against liberal, radical left causes and movements. He has even done very insulting things like saying black lies matter instead of black lives matter, discounting the entire movement that has been so prominent in responding to Police Violence and brutality across the country. Amy shortly after winning the 2016 president ial election, donald trump tweeted his thoughts on dissent, writing nobody should be allowed to burn the American Flag if they do, there must be consequences perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail your final comment, jude ortiz . Show thets like that can the the effort of social movements in the United States. Left social movements. Right social movements have become more prominent and public under trump have been facilitated by the state. Were seeing that in places like charlottesville and st. Louis and all across the country. People need to recognize how things are shifting and be ready to be out in resistance to dissent and not be scared away. This case is a very important part of that. Amy jude ortiz, they can for being with us, member of the organizing crew of defend j20 and the Mass Defense Committee chair for the National Lawyers guild. Hes been in court throughout this first j20 trial. We will keep you updated on this and other trials as they go on. When we come back, the movement to impeach President Trump. Where does it stand from congress to counties, cities, towns across the United States . Stay with us. [music break] amy the lead singer died on tuesday at the age of 62. A shout out to the classes visiting democracy now today. , im amyemocracy now goodman. We turn now to an update on the movement to impeach presidenent donald trump. In november, a halfdozen democrats introduced articles of impeachment against trump, accusing him of obstruction of justice and other offenses. Cosponsors include democratic representatives steve cohen, luis gutierrez, al green, marcia fudge, adriano espaillat, and john yarmuth. Well, on thursday, one of the 12 and other participated one of , the 12 House Democrats who represents a district won by President Trump in democrat 2016. Carol sheaporter of New Hampshire said in a statement thursday many members of congress, including myself, agree with Republican SenateForeign RelationsCommittee Chairman bob corker that President Trump poses a dangerous threat to National Security and the future of our democracy. I believe it is past time for members of congress to put country before party and bring these discussions out into the open, sheaporter said. Until now, other democrats who have endorsed trumps impeachment have hailed from safe blue districts. Porter plans to retire at the end of her term. This comes as the house rejected an effort last week by Congress Member al green to move forward with articles of impeachment even as some 58 democrats votes in support of the resolution, nearly a third of the caucus. Meanwhile competition for impeachment launched in october by democratic donor tom steyer now has more than 3. 5 million supporters and at least 17 communities around the country are on record calling for impeachment proceedings against donald trump. Well, earlier this month, democracy now spoke to constitutionalal attorney john bonifaz, cofounder and director of free speech for people. I started by asking him about the movement to impeach trump. To be clear, what were doing with the Impeachment Campaign that we launched on the day of the inauguration because the president have refused to d divt from his Business Holdings all across the world in defiance of the anticorruption what were doing is designed to defefend or constitution, our democracy. This is not about being dissatisfied about certain policies of the president. This is about the constitution and the basic fundamental principle in this country that no one is above the law, not even the president of the United States. And he walked into the ovall office that day already defying the rule of law, already refusing to complyly with those two anticorruption provisions of the constitution. Amy explain exactly what those two anticorruption articles of the constitution are and what he refused to do with his busisinesses. So ththose two anticorruptin provisions are the foreign emoluments clause and the domestic emoluments clause. The foreign emolumentsts clause makes clear that the President Shall not receivive, nor any otr federal elected official shall not receive, any payments or financial benefits of any kind from any foreign governments. The domestic emoluments clause applies only to the president and says he shall not receive any financial benefits or payments of f any kind from the federal government or the State Government other than his federal salary. This is a president who has 111plus business interests all over the world, many of which involve illegal foreign benefits, foforeign government benefits, to him personally, through his company, the trump organization, as well as having properties all over the United States that involve State Government benefits and the federal governrnment, through te leasing of the post Office Square in washington, d. C. , that is now the place where the Trump International hotel resides. So what we are dealing with hehe with is a president who knew, prior to taking the oval office, warned by constitutional scholarsrs, that he needed to divest from his business interests in order to comply with those anticorruption provisions. He refused to, and he is engaged in treating the oval office as a profitmaking enterprise at the public expense. Amy how have things changed since january when donald trump became president . I think what has happened is weve seen a growing list of Impeachable Offenses that require an impeachment investigation in the u. S. Congress parallel to the Mueller Investigation. This is not a question of having to wait and see whether or not the federal criminal investigation thats proceeding turns up violations of federal criminal law by the president or any of his associates. Thats a separate question. The question here are crimes against the state. That is what impeachment is about abuse of power, abuse of public trust, and not only through the violations of the anticorruption provisions. There is now, of course, evidence of obstruction of justice. Theres evidence of potential conspiracy with the russian government to interfere with the 2016 elections and violate federal Campaign Finance laws, among others. There is now evidence of abuse of the pardon power in the papardoning of former Maricopa County arizona sheriff joe arpaio. Theres recklessly threatening nuclear war against a foreign nation. Theres misuse of the Justice Department to try to prosecute political adversaries. And theres the giving aid and comfort to neonazis and white supremacists. All of this all of this deserves an impeachment investigation in the u. S. House of representatives. Amy so in response to some Democratic Leaders warning against calls for impeachment before Robert Muellers investigation has been completed, billionaire environmentalist tom steyer defended his 20 Million Ad Campaign to impeach President Trump and blasted his critics, telling the wall street journal, the republican nominee wasnt really a republican. The person who energized the Democratic Party wasnt really a democrat. So, when i hear the washington establishment tell me, shut the f up, i think, well, maybe. And on thursday come he tweeted it doesnt surprise me that the political establishment in washington, d. C. , cant imagine the idea of the American People having an independent voice. Theyre scared of any threat to their control. But its important to do whats right, tom steyer. Said tom steyer. I want to play a clip of the ad that has been nnnning tevisionon hs broughus to the brink ofuclear war, obstctcted justice athe fbi. And in decect viatioion the constituon, hesakaken mey fr foreign governmtsts and thatened tshut downews organizaonons th reporthe truth. If tt isnt case for impeachingndnd reming g a daerous esident, then what has our government become . Amy thats the billionaire tom steyer, who has spent millions on this ad campaign thats running on television. Can you talk about what he is attempting to do its the need to Impeach Campaign and whether youre working with him, john bonifaz . Well, were in communication with tom steyer and his team about collaborating possibly, and we do think whats important here is to elevatete the nationl conversationon. Hes obviously helping t to do that. We f fully agree with all l that hes saying about the need for this impeachment p process to me forward in the house of representatives. And the more v voices that come forward from the American People all over the country is going to help push that forward in congress. Amy so lets talk about whats happened this november, these six House Democrats announuncing theyve introduced articles of impeachment against presidident trumump. This is congressman ststeve cohn making the announcement on noveerer 15. Rep. Cohen i am pro to ststd here w witmy friend, congressman gutierrez, with heher coress peop whoho wl be here, in anuncicinghat we a inoducucinarticl of peacachmt to rove present trump from offe. E. Therere ll be,e, believe, six gnataties onon t resololion. Weweave taken this aion cause ofofreat ccern for o country anour constitution our national securitand our democrcry. We believe t that esididentrump has vivioled t theonstitutn, d wewevintroduc five arties of peachmen am againthats congressmber ste cohen of mphis, tennessee. Joing him, l ls gutierz z of chicag marcifudge ofhio, adrio espalat of nework, jo yarmu of kentky and al greeof houst, texas. So explain what theyre introducing. Well, theyve introduced five articles of impeachment, and theyve done it as a group. And its significant because up until now, there were two members of conongress, al greenn bebeing one of them, congressman al green from houston, and congressman brad sherman from los angeles, who had introduced articles of impeachment around obstruction of justice. These articles go beyond obstruction of justice, including that, but also the violations of the foreign and domestic emoluments clauses and the president s continued attacks on freedom of the press and on the independence of the judiciary. And whats significant here, amy, is that these articles have been introduced by members of Congress Despite the continued opposition by their own partys leadership in the congress. Minority leader nancy pelosi has made clear that she doesnt think impeachment should move forward at this time, and yet they are going ahead and moving this fororward. Anand i think theyre askiking r other members of congress to beyond those who already have stepped forward. And we, as americans, all across the country, should pupush for n impeachment investstigation and should urge our members of congress to take the same kind of action. Amy so respond to nancy pelosi. I mean, what these democrats are saying is this is not the way to retake the house in 2018. That if you disagree with the president , the way to deal with that is through elections. Explain why yoyou see impeachmet as key. Well, were a nonpartisan organization. Were not involved in the political strategy of any polititical party. Y. What we are focused on is dedefending our constitutition. At this paparticular moment in time, it is not acceptable to say that we will simply kick the can down the road and wait until after an election cyclcle to lay the groundwork for the impeachment proceedings. They may not happen tomorrow. They may not get started nexext month. But ththe fact is, we neneed toe lalaying that grououndwork and making this call now. And members of congress, whether ththeyre democratic, republica, independent, or what have you, need to be stepping up to protect and defend the constititution. Thats the o oath they took, in addition to the president taking that oath, to protect, defend , and preserve the constitution. And the other point on this, amamy, is that nancy pelosi has been saying that we donnt have ththe facts out, we dont have e Mueller Investigation completed. But what theyre really saying is they want other facts out, because we already have the facts out about what this president has done with respect to the emoluments clauses, with respect to obstruction of justice, and so many other Impeachable Offenses. And when we look at the Mueller Investigation, were mixing apples and oranges. Thats a crimiminal investigati, whether or not the president and his associates have committed violations of federal criminal law. The question of impeachment t is about abuse of power, abuse of public trust, crimes against the state. And it is just wrong for any member of congress to suggest that a criminal investigation needs to be completed before an impeachment proceeding can begin. Amy one of the people who has gone before the congressional committees is roger stone, one of President Trumps oldest advisers. He issued what appeared to be a veiled threat, warning in august any politician who voted to impeach President Trump would face a violent response. Try to impeach him. Just try it. You will have a spasm of violence in this country, an insurrection like youve never seen. Reporter you think . No question. Reporter you think both sides are heavily armed, my friend. Yes, absolutely. This is not 1974. The people will not stand for impeachment. A politician who votes for it would be endangering their own life. There will be violence on both sides. Let t me make this clear. Im not advocating violence, but i am predicting it. Amy thats roger stone speaking to tmz. He says there would be a violent respsponse. John b bonifazaz . Itts an outrageouous state, but it also highlights that we cannot allow fear to dictate our reresponse to this lawless president. We cannot say that were going to stay on the sidelelines here while the constitution is being shredded because of that kind of claim that roger stone or anyone else might make. Amy so explain how impeachment would work. Whwhat would the process look like . So the first process involves the House Judiciary Committee taking up the question. The house e of representatives would need to pass a resolution that would advance to the House Judiciary Committee the question of an impeachment investigation or articles of impeachment. You know, congressman al green has said that hehe wants to go o the floor with a privileged resolution immediately, that will force a vote in the house of representatives as early as in the next few days in this coming week. But, you know, beyond that process, the p process of having the House Judiciary Committee take up this question would then involve subpoena power, would then involve taking witnesses. This is what happened during the nixon impeachment proceedings. I understand when people say, well, the republicans control the House Judiciary Committee. They control the house of representatives. They control the senate. Where do we think this process could actually go . But, you know, there were plenty of people who argued on the day that we launched this campaign, on inauguration day, that there was just no way people would be standing up to demand this, and now we see millions of americans demanding it. Now we see 17 communities on record, and now we see Seven Members of congress on record. And the facts continue to build that this president is defying the rule of law. We must place country over party here and stand up for the basic principlple that no o one is abe the law. Amy so if you were arguing for the impeachment in congress, iff you were laying out the case against trump over this almost a year that hes been in office not quite yet can you lay out the articles of impeachment . Yes. We would start with the violatations of the two anticorruption provisions of the constitution the foreign emolumentstslause and d the domestic emoluments clause. This president is treating the oval office as a profitmaking enterprise at the public expense. Hes taking illegal payments and benefits from foreign governments in violation of the foreign emoluments clause, and hes taking illegal payments from the State Governments around the country, as well as from thehe federal government, n violation of the domestic emoluments clause. Thats point one, or point one and two, if you will, because theyre two different clauses. Then you have obstruction of justice. This is a president who first demanded loyalty of his former fbi director james comey. When he didnt get that, he went ahead and fired him for not letting go, as he put it, of the Flynn Investigation and this russia t thing, as he said. That was obstruction of justice. That fbi director was involved in investigating the russian interference in the 2016 election and its potential connection to the trump campaign. It led to the appointment of special counsel robert mueller. And now we know, based on new reporting by the new york times, that soon after that, the president sought to stop the congressional investigations in the senate that were going that continue to go on with respect to that. So obstruction of justice, which was the first article of impeachment against richard nixon, would certainly be part of this case. Ththen we have the pototential conspiracy with the russian government, potential collusion, to violate federal Campaign Finance laws and other federal laws and to interfere with our elections. That evidedence contininues to e built. But its also an impeaeachment ququestion, and the hoHouse Judiciary Committee should take that up. Then we have the abuse of the pardon power. This is a power that is not unlimited by a president. And what the president nt has doe with the pardon of former sheriff, Maricopa County sheriff joe arpaio, is he has essentially undermined the Due Process Rights of the thousands of people e who were i impactedy sheriff joe arpaios illegal actions. This is the sheriff who was found in criminal contempt of court for refusing to stop his illegal practices of detaining people based on the color of their skin. And this president went ahead and and used the pardon power in a wrongful way to pardon him. Then we have the giving aid and comfort to neonazis and white supremacists, not just what the president said after the charlottesville tragedy, but also his most recent tweets, tweeting out antimuslim inflammatory antimuslim videos. This president is giving that aid and comfort to white supremacists. Then, you know, this president also has engageded in recklessly threatening nuclear wawar. Now, the fact is that the president is the commanderinchief. He does not t have the power to inititiate a war. That is established under the war powers clause, despite the fact that weve seen violations of it in thehe past. But this t takes it to a w wholw scale. This is a president who literally is engaged in recklesslyly threatening nuclelr war against a foreigign nation. That receckless and wanton disregard for the established norms and for essentially putting millions of lives at stake, threatening really the world, is an Impeachable Offense. And then, finally, most recently, this president nt has talked about how he would like to see the Justice Department prosecutute Hillary Clinton and other political adversaries. This misuse of the Justice Department, or attempted misuse, to prosesecute political adversaries would be another Impeachable Offense worthy of investigation. Amy constitutional attorney john bonifaz, cofounder and director of free speech for people. For part one of our conversation, go to democracynow. Org. 27n we come back, psychiatrists and Mental Health experts assess a president. Stay with us. [music break] amy this is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodmaman. Toldmonth pentagon leaders a senate panel they would ignore any unlawful order by President Donald Trump to launch a nuclear strike. The testimony came as part of the first congressional hearings in more than 40 years on the presesidents auauthority to sta nuclear war. Ththis is connnnecticut dedemocc senator chchris murphy. We are concerned that the president of the United States is so unstable, is so volatile, has a decisionmaking process that is so quixotic, that hee mighght order r a nuclear weapos strike that is wildly out of step with u. S. National security interests. Amy we turn now to a doctor who is led a discussion of Mental Health professionals who are deeply concerned about President Trumps psychological stability. Dr. Bandy lee is a forensic psychiatrist on the faculty of yale school of medicine, an internationally recognized expert on violence. She organized the duty to warn conference at yale and edited the book the dangerous case of donald trump 27 psychiatrists and Mental Health experts assess a president. The book became a bestseller the instant it was published in october, sold out, resupplied, sold out again. We are bringing you part two of our conversation today with dr. Lee. When i asked about the concerns that s she and these other expes have identified. Historically unprecedented that so many Mental Health professionals have come forth with their concerns. Under anany president of any party. So it really is the first time that this many Mental Health nationals forthcoming together in a coalition. We even have a website now w wre ththe public and lawmakers can discourse with us. There are thousands of us at this point. Amy so talk about lay out what your concnsns are as a psychiatrist. So our concerns are that someone with this level of mental instability and impairment has this much power, in the office of the presidency basically, the power to start a devastating war, to launch Nuclear Missiles, without any inhibition. You saw from the hearings that there is very little inhibition in place right now. Within five minutes of the commanderinchiefs orders, Nuclear Missiles could be launched without question. And amy and how does that relate to his Mental Fitness . And, of course, his decisionmaking capacity, having such levels of impulsivity, havingng a loose grip on reality and being so fragile in his ability to cope with ordinary stresses, such as basic criticisms or unflattering news, willll tend to unravelel, especy in times of heigightened stress, such as under the special counsels investigations. Amy just last week, Tony Schwartz, author of well, coauthor of trumps book, the art of the deal, told msnbcs ari melber that the president s inner circle is worried about his mental state. I know that two different people from the white house, or at least saying they were from the white house, and that turned out to be a white house number, have called somebody i know in the last several weeks to say, we are deeply concerned about his Mental Health. Thats wait a minute. Youre saying you have knowledge of people calling from a white house line raising that question. Why would they do that . How do you know that . I know that because i know the person that they called. And this is a person who i absolutely trust, who has great integrity. Amy so that was Tony Schwartz, who i think ghostwrote the book the art of the deal, very close to trump for a period of time. What are your thoughts about what he said . Well, as you know, he has a chapter in the book, even though hes nototounted amomong the 27 experts. We do hahave three oththers whoe been included for their special insight, their special experience with mr. Trump. And we included him because he has special insight into these matters. And i would agree with his assessment. We speak often. We share our observations. And were both deeply concerned. Amy the chapter that Tony Schwartz wrote in your book, i wrote the art of the deal with donald trump. His selfsabotage is rooted in his past. Explain his point here. Well, theres actually a lot thats outlined. Its a reprint of an article that he wrote, i believe for the new yorker. He outlines very much his interactions and experiences with the president. And he describes, most markedly, this emptiness, this what he calls a black hole level of selfesteem or selfworth that is missing, whereby he can have all the admiration of the world, all of the successes, and he will his thirst will never be quenched because of that intense need. And that is what we are seeing over and over. And what is most concerning for us is that hisis way of coping with this critical sense of need at every moment, so much to the point where he cannot think of the past or the future or consequences, his main urgency is to quench the need at the moment. And the way he does this is by burnishing his power, by going to belligerent language, or affirming conflicts and others sense ofof the world as a threatening place where you have to be violent. Amy this is republican senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina speaking about well thencandidate donald trump. , this was back in 2016. Sen. Graham im not going to try to get into the mind of donald trump, because i dont think theres a whole lot of space there. I think hes a kook. I think hes crazy. I think hes unfit for office. Amy so that was graham in 2016. But senator graham sounded different last month when he spoke to cnn. Sen. Graham you know, what concerns me about the American Press is this endless, endless attempt to label the guy as some kind of f kook, not fit to be president. Amy so that is senator graham now. What about what hes saying . I think the laypersons, the public or lawmakers, would be prone to underestimating the dangers of this president because most people are used to seeing individuals who are healthy. Its only professionals who see those who are impaiaired day inn and dayy out. And so the natural tendency will be to inteterpret whatat theyre seeing in terms of a normal range, a normal variation of human choices, decisionmaking, and behavior. What we are what we feel pressed to do is to warn about the situation where someone is not acting within normal range, where one is normalizing what is in fact a malignancy in ones interpretation of reality. Amy dr. Bandy lee is a forensic psychiatrist on the faculty of yale school of medicine, internationally recognized expert on violence. She organized the duty to warn conference at yale and edited the book the dangerous case of donald trump 27 psychiatrists and Mental Health experts assess a president. The book became a bestseller the instant it was published in october, sold out, resupplied, sold out again. To see the whole interview with dr. Bandy lee, you can go to democracynow. Org. Week, welier this played interviews with two women who have accused donald trump of Sexual Misconduct. Jessica leeds and samantha holvey, who were part t of a nes conference this week k in new yk calling on congress to investigate the president of the United States. 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