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Andy dalton, 2, 2 and 2. Jim that last two is pretty hard to pull off. Two ties. Tony does a heck of a job taking the clock down in those overtimes. Jim yeah. Tony andy has a chance to step up. Here we go. Referee the game clock set at 10 minutes. Each team has an opportunity to possess the ball. Unless the team that first possesses it score as touchdown. Each team will have two timeouts. All instant replay reviews done from the booth. Visiting captain call the toss. Tails. Referee tails. Nfl logo is tails. Visiting captain calls tails. It is a tail. You won the toss. Where would you like to kick . This way . Cincinnati will take the football. Jim all right, overtime coming up from green bay when we continue with the nfl on cbs. Thats more than a scratch. What do you think about our new truck buddy . State farm knows its more than a truck. So why not give it the protection it deserves. I am so sorry. dog growls talk to a state farm agent today. You are a true friend of the crown. Dilly, dilly. Dilly dilly madame susan, you are an even truer friend of the crown. Dilly, dilly. Dilly dilly what is that . This is a spiced honey mead wine that i have really been into lately. Please follow, sir brad. Hes going to give you a private tour of the pit of misery. Im sorry, what . Pit of misery dilly dilly dilly dilly heres to the friends you can always count on. Jim rule change, reduce the overtime period from 15 to 10. Tony why did they reduce it, jim . Jim last year there were an unusually high number, percentages through the years did not carry out this way, but six overtime games that went beyond ten minutes into the overtime. President competition committee, trying to say safety is the issue, the longer the game goes the more injuries you have, voted to reduce it from 15 to 10. Tony youre well versed in it, i like it. Jim heres crosby. To get it started. First possession for the bengals from the 25. Tony not unlike a twominute situation. First play, i always felt, maybe the biggest. You feel comfortable, you feel relaxed, you get the yards, the whole playbook opens up. Incompletion or one yard, you dont feel good, it becomes a big play. Jim like to welcome those of you wlo watched kansas city and the los angeles chargers. Were in overtime at lambeau field. The packers were down 14 at halftime. Outscored cincinnati 173 in quarters 3 and 4. And a touchdown pass from rodgers to nelson, 17 seconds to go in recreation ligs, plus the point after. Timeout by dalton before they get the first snap. In this game, first touchdown of the season for cincy on the opening drive. Plus there was a pick six by william jackson. Jordy nelson, that was his first of two touchdowns. This is the one with 17 seconds in regulation. Tony cincinnati off to a hot start in the first half. We saw bill lazor coming in, new offensive coordinator. Second half, though, only three points. And no first downs on third downs. 0 for 6. Theyre going to have to convert something here. A tough environment that youre feeling right now. Jim they go with mixon, and the rookie, is knocked back by blake martz. You always put emphasis, you said, on the first play of overtime. Thats not the way that anyone on the cincinnati side wanted to see things get started. A timeout, then a loss of two. Tony no, youre running the ball, if this offensive line isnt the strength of the bengals, its a. J. Green. I want to get the ball to my strength on the first play. I feel comfortable. You start your lineup, weak side zone, they have nothing. Now you feel the environment. Here comes some sort of dom capers, twomankind of coverage. Jim in the pocket. And thats caught by cody core. Make that a. J. Green, beg your pardon, a. J. Green. Those of you just joining us he had a big game. A. J. With 10 catches, 50th career touchdown reception. 10 for 1. Tony dom capers has one blitz is that one of the unique blitzes in the league. They dial it up, biggest third down of the game. Safety and the nickel off of both sides. Or see if he wants to say you know what, im going to let my guys play man coverage. Jim third and six. Heres dalton. Caught, and immediately brought down, thats josh jones, the rookie safety, immediately bringing down the tight end, tyler cross. Tony he showed up today, didnt he. The three deep three under blitz. Good job getting rid of it, andy dalton. But this takes you back to first down. Dont give me a run to the right side, and all of a sudden now its a loss of two. Now the next two pass plays, d coordinator knows youre throwing it. First down, the time to get 109, 15 yards and 10, 15 yards and put them on their heels. Jim another good punt, he has had a big day, thats davis. Still on his feet. Turns it upfield, down to the 21. Tony no penalties. Jim 58iard punt, nineyard return, Aaron Rodgers hops on to the field. Having brought his team from 14 down into overtime. Tony under duress all game as well, with this front, he had to go against without tackles. Hes going to have to do it again. Next score wins, jim. Field goal, anything. Jim rodgers, trying to win an overtime game for the first time. Trying to beat cincinnati for the first time. Takes the running play on first down. Incomplete. Thats nelson, tangled up for a moment with adam jones. Tony good defense by jones. Thats not an easy route to cover. 18yard comeback on the side lines. You see jones reach in there, grab his arm. Tough call, right there. Depending on when he grabbed it. Might have been a hair early. Jim and the crowd reacts to what we saw on the replay. And they didnt like it. All for naught, second and ten. Tony watch the linebackers in the middle bouncing out. Jim pass, just incomplete, in the area of montgomery. Tony this is hard. The tackle, didnt even block the defensive end. And i know that mccray doesnt play there, hes not their starter. But you got to block the defensive end. Hes the guy that you block when youre an offensive tackle. Literally let dunlap run straight to the quarterback. Good play by rogers to throw it away. Jim they sack rodgers five times in the first half. Once in the second. Tony theyre going to chip here with bennett, right there, and going to tell him to chip right there. Gives rodgers time f they do their job, they should have time. Jim needs to get to the 31 for a first. Tony they got him offsides. Jim down the field. Tony hes open jim wide open. Allison cuts back. They got him, another move, he has jones in front of him, gets past it to the sticks. Geronimo allison, for 73 yards. Tony can you believe this right here, youre going to see rodgers referee offsides, number 90, penalty declined, result of the play, first down. Tony i mean this place is rocking right now. Its a cover 2 ball which means you have two verticals, rodgers about one of two people on the planet earth that can make the throw before the safety gets there. Allison, the beneficiary. Rodgers knows, we think we just got this one. Jim theyre going to run another play here. Tony this is going to be a run. Theyll center it to the middle of the field. Most likely you will have the quarterback go or the running back to the right, yeah. Covering the kicking unit in. And win the game. Jim crosby, to make it from 27 for the win. Tony and what a heartbreaking loss if this goes through the uprights, for marvin lewis. They played a great first half. As goods they could play it. Pick six the other way. The offense rolling. I mean your team, had a renewed energy life on the road. Jim and here we go. Tony here it is. Jim with a rookie holder. And a timeout, timeout called, by cincinnati. It will be a 27yard attempt, as we said. Tony you saw the dprafic, surprisingly, crosby only one career winner in the stadium. Jim that was back in 2007 in the game against philadelphia. Alltime points leader in packer history. Thats the young man who stepped up big on the tying touchdown drive. Tony yes. Jim Geronimo Allison hashgsd a drop, made a couple of plays. That 72yard pass play to set up this, put him over 100 for the game on six catches. Tony im going to put you out on a limb, jim. Jim 27 yards . Tony what do you think happens here . Like the chances. Tony okay. Jim way out on a limb, huh . Tony hes a gambling man. Jim you never know. For the win. And the packers take it in overtime [cheers and applause] jim it is gut wrenching as you said for cincinnati. Tony they played well. Defense played good, offense, had a great first half. But Aaron Rodgers, green bay, they didnt blink. 217, they stayed the course. Jim and now thursday night both teams come off of overtime wins, chicago coming in to take on green bay. Rodgers has his first overtime win. Tony no better time to start than now. Jim tonight on cbs begins with the 50th season premiere of 60 minutes, star trek discovery, ncis los angeles,ed a madam secretary. For tony and tracy and the crew, jim nantz saying so long from green bay. You enjoyed that one, didnt you. Tony good to be back home with you. Jim you have been watching the nfl on cbs. cheering a triangle solo . Surprising. Whats not surprising . How much money sam and yohanna saved by switching to geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. The geico play of the day. The coach looks down the right sideline for t. Y. Hilton, makes the catch, he leaves the rookie Jabrill Peppers in the dust, talented wide receiver races 65 yards to day birt, past several defenders for the score, first passing touchdown of his career, not the first celebration. Behind every seat is a story. 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I think about ted a lot. Ted stayed at his job, kept working, kept going, even when he was in a wheelchair. And he never gave up, because he loved the engagement. I am more energetic and more engaged as a result of this, because i know that ive got to do everything i can to serve this country while i can. Last years president ial election revealed a nation divided. How do you think donald trump is doing as president . I love it. Every day, i love him more and more. I feel like hes a horrible president , and hes divided our nation more than it has ever been. You see it every day among families and friends, but tonight, we attempt to turn that division. What dont you understand . Into a conversation. crosstalk okay, okay. Can we just have a moment . Im steve kroft. Im lesley stahl. Im scott pelley. Im bill whitaker. Im anderson cooper. And im Oprah Winfrey joining 60 minutes on this, the 50th season premiere. 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Pelley like rounds of artillery, hurricanes are coming in a salvo the likes of which we havent seen in more than a decade. Maria, which devastated puerto rico this past week, was the first category 4 to make a direct hit on the island in 85 years. Last month, Hurricane Harvey was the most ferocious rainstorm ever recorded in the continental u. S. The number of storms is higher than usual, but its their intensity that is extremely rare, with two category 4s and two category 5s making landfall in a month. The question facing americas coastal cities is this is the ferocity of these storms a fluke or the future . No one died on bramblewood drive, but lives were lost the lives we measure in memories. The bike that taught the kids how to fly, the perfect dining room chairs, the letter jacket they cant believe they saved all these years. 14831 bramblewood, in west houston, is the shields place. Vince shields rolled his Family History to the curb and dumped decade after decade. Shields my wifes a seamstress, and so, these are probably her patterns she had through high school and on up. We lost a lot of personal pictures, but most of this. I wont have to have a garage sale. Pelley shields, who retired from shell, has lived on bramblewood 16 years. Shields heres the waterline. So, im 62. Pelley and the waterline is as tall as you are, 62. Hed never seen water in the house. The flood started to drop after two feet, but it surged to six after engineers opened the gates on two antiquated Flood Control reservoirs to stop the dams from failing. Shields weve had church crews in here. Second baptist we go to second baptist they had a crew out here. Weve had a couple of christian crews from lafayette. Pelley thats how you got all this done, all volunteers. People just walked up and knocked on the door. Shields yeah, or you sign up at church and put your name on the list and people show up. Its amazing. God works. Pelley more than 80 people were killed, and around houston, its estimated that 27,000 homes were destroyed. Almost 25 of houstonians live below the poverty level, and many of their homes were in the flood plain. Michelle seage this is joes house. Youll see him. Hes in the black shirt. If you have any questions, ask me or ask joe for exactly what he wants us to do. Pelley next door to Vince Shields, joe kilchrists place was being gutted by military vets. Kilchrist kept the plywood from the last big storm season, back in 05. The vets call themselves team rubicon. Seage your masks have to stay on. You do not want to breathe in fiberglass. Pelley Michelle Seage says theyll have 2,000 volunteers from all over the nation for two months. Seage so, yesterday, i had a whole street. All the debris piles were beautiful and neat and ready for the city. And then, i get assigned here this week. And you turn the corner, and you see its a whole new street full of people who need our help. Pelley was the World Capital of fossil fuels brought low by Climate Change . We asked katherine hayhoe, a leading atmospheric scientist at texas tech university. Hayhoe its too early to tell. The postmortem will take years, so to speak, because Climate Science is all about the long term statistics. We can say, absolutely without a doubt, that this hurricane took place over altered background conditions. Our planet is very different today than it would have been 50 or 100 years ago. Pelley by altered background, she means that the oceans of 2017 are on track to be the third warmest on record. Warmer water intensifies hurricanes three ways. Hayhoe first of all, in a warmer world, more water evaporates into the atmosphere. And so, when a storm like a hurricane comes along, there is so much more water vapor sitting up there for the hurricane to sweep up and dump on us. The second reason is sea level rise. Pelley water expands when its heated. Hayhoe and that means when a hurricane comes along, the storm surges, on average, will be stronger, because there is more water behind them. And then, the third way that we expect Climate Change to affect hurricanes is through warmer ocean waters. More energy, more power will be available to hurricanes in the future, enabling them to intensify faster if conditions are right, as well as become more intense. Pelley and thats apparently what we had with harvey. Hayhoe were starting to see it. Pelley what have you lost . Cynthia neely three cars, most of our home and our rental property, and half of our sanity. Pelley youve been here 20 years. Did it ever flood before . Neely never. Pelley is this house in a flood plain . Neely no no. Pelley hell hath no fury like a woman submerged. The crack of every ruined memory exposed cynthia neelys rage, not at harvey, but at houston. Shes with residents against flooding, a nineyearold group suing the city. They want to toughen the law that requires developers to dig detention basins to catch runoff from buildings. Houston has grown about 25 in 20 years. Neely we hired top notch hydrologists, engineers, to look at a problem and say, hey, something is wrong here. City, county need to do something. And so, for all these nine years, weve been going to mayor after mayor, year after year, begging and pleading asking for detention basins, asking for drainage infrastructure improvements, and they just looked at us like, thank you for coming, have a nice day. Pelley why . Neely it costs money, and because the city is bought and paid for by developers. Pelley when you hear someone say these storms come along every 500 years or so, you say what . Neely bull bleep okay, seriously . We have had three 500year floods in the last 27 months. Now, we have harvey. Mother nature is going to do what Mother Nature is going to do. That means its going to rain. Were going to have hurricanes and tropical storms. So, by golly, do something to protect your people from it pelley mr. Mayor, i spoke to one of your constituents, who uses words that i cant use on tv. Sylvester turner okay. Pelley Sylvester Turner has been mayor of houston nearly two years. Turner i understand why people are mad right now, because there are projects on the books and the only thing that stopped those projects from being built was the funding. Pelley there is a sense among citizens who have flooded homes that there has been a lack of urgency about starting these major mitigation projects. Turner i agree. I agree with them because you know all of these things are foreseeable. Pelley so, why have these things not been done, mr. Mayor . Turner because. Because there hasnt been urgency on all levels to get them done. And thats the sad part. Pelley the threat hasnt been ignored entirely. The federal government has spent more than 100 million in the county over the years, buying up homes in the flood plain. But reams of Flood Control proposals fill the filing cabinets at city hall. Turner sometimes it takes an event to occur that shakes people to their core. This storm has shaken people to their core. People dont want to hear the rhetoric, and i understand that. The question, then, becomes, are you as elected officials and others operating with the greatest degree of urgency . Pelley these are those two Flood Control reservoirs that were built in the 1940s. Theyre usually dry, which is why you see trees. A 1996 study by the county Flood Control district called them severely outdated. Its not hard to imagine, the study says, that a single storm event could have a catastrophic impact. A proposed fix was stopped by the cost, 600 million in todays dollars. But last months catastrophic impact will be tens of billions. The former head of the Flood Control district who promoted that study lives in this house. He told us, from the 1940s to harvey, planning for the reservoirs went from brilliance to neglect to stupidity to cruelty. Over the decades, thousands of homes were built on the flood plain. Sam brody Hurricane Harvey was a humancontrived disaster. If we have flooding, that is a natural process. A disaster is humaninduced, because weve put so many people in these floodprone areas. Pelley sam brody studies Coastal Development for texas a m university. Brody i think that Climate Change is one driver of this problem. So, the bay is rising. Weve measured that its going to continue to rise. But if you think of Climate Change as one of the drivers of flood loss, it pales in comparison to human change and the development of the landscape, and putting people more in harms way. That is a much bigger driver of the problem. Pelley well, people like development, people like to have jobs. Brody and i think we need to promote that, but doing it in a way that is smarter, which means protecting the ecological functions of our landscape wetlands, pulling away from these bayous. And over the long term, were going to have a more stable economy, better Economic Growth because were not going to be dragged down by these chronic flood events. Pelley harvey is also rewriting Emergency Response plans. During the storm, 160 helicopters and 17,000 troops rode to the rescue. Major gen. John nichols we didnt want to hold anything back. We wanted to be more prepared than surprised. Pelley Major General john nichols commands the texas guard. Did you have all the resources you needed to deal with this . Nichols yes, sir, we did. We also had states that helped us. 22 states brought helicopters, four states brought troops. Pelley if the storms of this size are going to be the norm in the future, what are you going to have to do . Nichols i dont know that its going to be the norm, but that could be an option. Were used to a threeday storm. Hurricanes come in, they move fast, and they go three days. Weve not seen a storm that came in and lingered for six days and drops 50plus inches of water in one place. Pelley general nichols says, because harvey exploded into a category 4 in just 48 hours, next time, hell have to position his troops days earlier. As the nations fourth largest city begins to dry, ideas for the future include buying more people out of their homes in the flood plains, turning two little used golf courses into reservoirs, and building a massive seagate to shield the ship channel from the gulf. Those projects would cost about 14 billion. Back on bramblewood drive, we noticed the piano in Vince Shields backyard. The green sticker guarantees the collapsed upright is waterproof for 50 years. But, in an age of warming oceans, there are no guarantees. 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And so, the senator from arizona has lived up to his reputation as a maverick and a fighter. Mccain, who survived torture and solitary confinement during his 5. 5 years as a p. O. W. In vietnam, is now, at 81, in a second fight for his life. This time against glioblastoma, a deadly and unforgiving brain cancer. He invited us to his ranch just outside of sedona, arizona, 24 acres of oldgrowth trees, a family of hawks and a rippling creek that his dog burma likes to swim in. You know, im wondering if, when youre up here, if its like medicine for you. John mccain oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It puts everything in perspective. Stahl he and his wife, cindy, have raised four children. They have survived two grueling president ial campaigns, a battle against melanoma, and now this. Youre taking both radiation and chemotherapy . John mccain yep. Stahl you look terrific. How is this possible . John mccain i feel fine, and im eating everything that she makes me eat, all of which none of which is stahl is any good . John mccain yeah, exactly. One criteria to feeding people that are under my situation, it has to taste lousy. Stahl he has been through so much . Cindy mccain uhhuh. Stahl i mean, the torture and the. You were put in solitary confinement . Cindy mccain uhhuh. Stahl hes always been the indestructible man . Cindy mccain uhhuh. John mccain crashed two airplanes. Stahl crashing two airplanes and walked away . John mccain yeah. Stahl is he still the indestructible man to you . Cindy mccain im still in disbelief that this actually has happened. And then, i think, you know, cancer chose the wrong guy because, there. Its not going to happen here. John mccain how are you . Stahl determined to stay in the arena, senator mccain has resumed his duties in washington. Youd never know it, but he starts his days with chemo and radiation, and then heads to a full day of work, including chairing hearings of the Armed Services committee. John mccain as leaders of our navy, you must do better. I am more energetic and more engaged as a result of this, because i know that ive got to do everything i can to serve this country while i can. Stahl now, you have the same cancer that ted kennedy had. Does what he experienced go through your mind . Is it. Mccain oh, yeah. I think about ted a lot. Ted stayed at his job, kept working, kept going even when he was in a wheelchair. And he never gave up, because he loved the engagement. Stahl the senator first learned he had a problem in arizona back in july when doctors found a blood clot over his left eye after a routine checkup at the mayo clinic in phoenix. He was driving back to the ranch when he got word. John mccain i was driving up here, and i got about twothirds of the way up. And my doctor called and said, youve got to come back. And i said, hey, todays friday. Ill just come in on monday. And she said, no, you have to come now. Its very serious. Stahl you turned the car around . John mccain uhhuh. Stahl and went immediately into surgery . John mccain yes. They thought it was serious enough that they had to act immediately. Stahl and before the blood clot operation, did they mention glioblastoma to you . John mccain yes. But, as you know, doctors are interesting. Stahl they cover themselves. John mccain i kept saying to them, tell it to me straight. Well, theres always this, theres always that. You know, and. And i said, i can take it. Just tell me. And. And then they. They were more forthcoming. Stahl five days after the surgery, lab results confirmed he had glioblastoma. What did they tell. Tell you about the prognosis . John mccain they said that its very serious, that the prognosis is very, very serious. Some say 3 , some say 14 . You know, its. Its a very poor prognosis. So, i just said, i understand. Now were going to do what we can, get the best doctors we can find and do the best we can, and at the same time celebrate with gratitude a life well lived. Stahl was he that tough . Cindy mccain yes. He is that tough. Stahl just 11 days after his surgery, he returned to washington, against doctors advice, for the vote to repeal obamacare. You walk out onto the senate floor. You thought it was going to be normal, empty, mostly empty. And the entire senate is there. They stand up. They give you an incredible ovation. What went on, inside. . John mccain oh, i got very choked up. And then, of course, you know, all of them coming over and giving me a hug. It was deeply moving. I had never seen anything like that. Stahl so, you get all this affection, and then you give them this speech, was kind of scolding to the people who just stood up and loved you. This was a speech condemning the way the senate has been operating. John mccain were getting nothing done, my friends. Were getting nothing done because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. Stahl two days later, as the repealobamacare vote was under way, mccain was subjected to urgent lobbying by Vice President pence and the president himself, over the phone. And yet, at 1 29 a. M. , mccain delivered the dramatic and decisive thumbs down as a dejected Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell bowed his head. It was a huge defeat for president trump, who has mocked mccains vietnam war record. President trump hes not a war hero. Hes a war hero. Hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people that werent captured, okay . Stahl there are some people who think that part of your n was to get back at the president and that the thumbs down was kind of more like a middle finger to him. John mccain if i took offense at everybody who has said something about me or disparaged me or Something Like that. Life is too short. Youve got to move on. And on an issue of this importance to the nation, for me to worry about a personal relationship, then im not doing my job. Stahl but the fact is, his personal relationship with the president has been fraught. Just last month, he wrote an oped saying the president is often poorly informed and can be impulsive. Do you worry that hes not fit for the office . John mccain first of all, i believe in our system. The American People selected donald trump to be president of the United States. We have to respect that. Second of all, he has a very Strong National Security Team around him who i know has significant influence over him. Stahl lets talk for a minute about daca, the dreamers act. Donald trump, the president , a republican, has embraced nancy pelosi. You go out and watch Republican Campaign ads around the country. Shes the target. John mccain sure. Stahl do you think he has initiated Divorce Proceedings with republicans . John mccain i dont know what hes going to do tomorrow. laughs so. Or say tomorrow. Lesley, he changes his. His statements almost on a daily basis. So, for me to spend my time trying to analyze what he says, i dont know. Stahl did he ever apologize for saying youre not a hero . John mccain no. Stahl if the president wanted to have a rapprochement with you, would you be receptive . John mccain of course. Of course. Ive supported him on national security. Ive supported his team. Stahl but personal. Im talking about man to man. John mccain personal . Sure, id be glad to converse with him. But i also understand that were very different people. Different upbringing. Different life experiences. Stahl what do you mean by that, and what does it make you think about . John mccain he is in the business of making money, and he has been successful both in television as well as miss america and others. I was raised in a military family. I was raised in the concept and belief that duty, honor, country is the. Is the lodestar for the behavior that we have to exhibit every single day. Stahl the son and grandson of fourstar admirals, hes the first to admit hes an imperfect man. Thats when they captured you. Though he has made real sacrifices for his country. When you think about your horrible time as a p. O. W. , the torture and everything, do you relive it . Or has it now faded so much that you can almost see it as if it happened to someone else . John mccain listen, the joy of my life was the bonds that were forged between me and my fellow p. O. W. S. They were wonderful. We fought together. We loved each other. We would tap on the walls to each other. I look back on that experience with a great deal of pride. Stahl do you think that this diagnosis has changed you . John mccain no. Stahl not at all. Same person . John mccain no, i think you got to. You know, you just have to understand that its not that youre leaving; its that you. That you stayed. I celebrate what a guy who stood fifth from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy has been able to do. I am so grateful. I. Every night, when i go to sleep, i am just filled with gratitude. Stahl since the diagnosis, youve never once had that. I guess, that feeling in your stomach of. John mccain oh, yeah. Stahl . Panic . Mccain oh, no. No. I have feelings sometimes of fear of what happens. But as soon as i get that, i say, wait a minute. Wait a laughs minute. Youve been around a long time, old man. Youve had a great life. Youve had a great experience. I want. I want. When i leave, that the ceremony is at the Naval Academy, and we just have a couple of people that stand up and say, this guy, he served his country. This cbs sports update is brought to you by ford. Im james brown with the scoors from the n. F. L. Today. The jags rolled over the unbeaten ravens behind four t. D. 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There, we gathered a Diverse Group of ordinary americans and asked them to lay everything out on the table. The group included a farmer, a drug counselor, a speech therapist, a former g. M. Factory worker, and a sales manager, and they all had a lot to say about the state of our union in the early days of the trump administration. I want to know from everyone around the table. How do you think donald trump is doing as president of the United States today . Tom . Tom i love it. Every day, i love him more and more. Every single day. I still dont like his attacks, his twitter attacks, if you will, on other politicians. I dont think thats appropriate. But, at the same time, his actions speak louder than words. And i love what hes doing to this country. Love it. Winfrey yes, jennifer . Jennifer i feel like hes a horrible president , and hes divided our nation more than it has ever been. And then, when hes on teleprompter, hes sane. I mean, im like, thats great. Thats great. Thats a good message. But when hes off teleprompter, i feel uncomfortable. It makes me feel sick to my stomach. And i think that we look like were a joke to other foreign leaders. Its an embarrassment. Tim we are. We are. Wesley hes terrible. A president sets the tone and sets the example. Its like a quarterback in a twominute drill. The quarterback sets the tone. President trump is not setting the tone. Lauren he is setting the tone, just not one that helps the United States. But all hes doing is setting a bad tone. Wesley yeah, yeah, hes setting the tone of negativity. Right. Tim exactly. Winfrey matt . Matt we wanted somebody to go in and flip tables. Were tired of the status quo, as some people wanted on the other side. We were tired of that. Winfrey in your mind, what table got flipped . Matt every time he does a rally or a tweet, hes speaking for people that are sitting at home in iowa or oklahoma or montana that just want to say it that way. For years, we asked for a president who would just say it the way we do. We got that. Frank luntz grab a seat there. Grab a seat next to him. Winfrey the conversation took place last month in a converted power plant in downtown grand rapids, where frank luntz, a pioneer in the use of focus groups and a contributor to cbs news, assembled our group. Luntz how many of you say were a divided country . Everyone winfrey . And paid participants 100 each for taking part. Luntz your friends are going to see this, and your family is going to see this. Winfrey he selected 14 for a seat at the table. Seven voted for president trump, seven did not. Half voted the party line; for others, it was more complicated. Can you talk about it . Jennifer okay, let me just explain that ive been a republican my whole life, and i could not support trump. My whole entire family supported trump, and i got persecuted by my own family. And they. My dad, especially. And so, he was trying to force me to vote for him. Winfrey did you all stop speaking to each other for a while . Jennifer for a while, yeah. Winfrey because you voted for . Jennifer because i voted for hillary. And it was a protest vote. Winfrey you were protesting . Jennifer i was protesting trump. I have a tenyearold and three yearold, and it scares me every day, what their future might be. Rose as somebody who, i feel im really moderate. I voted for bush twice. I voted for obama twice. And i voted for trump. And part of the reason why is because i gave the republican establishment a chance. I gave democratic establishment a chance. And can we please come together and at least give this president a chance . Because, in my opinion, were not. We already have preconceived ideas of what hes. Hes like. Winfrey are they preconceived ideas, or does he show us, or tweet to us, or demonstrate through his actions every day, who he is . Rose can we give him a chance . Winfrey people from this area are as divided as anywhere in the country. But theyre known for their midwestern manners and something locals call west michigan nice. Winfrey a trait we put to the test. Can you give me a word or phrase . Describe in your mind the typical trump voter. Jennifer oh, dear. laughs jeff im curious. Im curious what im going to be accused of here. Winfrey whats your word, tim . Tim i would say angry. Tom frustrated. Winfrey frustrated. Jennifer i would say angry. Matt fed up. Maggie fed up. Winfrey fed up. Daniel forgotten. Kailee misinformed. Lauren i say wounded. Winfrey the typical trump voter, you think, is wounded . Re