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Then, president elect bidens team expresses frustration over the delayed transition. We dont have access to all the information that we need to get from all the various agencies. Chris we will ask kate bedingfield, Senior Advisor to the biden transition how the delay will affect his ability to lead on day one. Plus. They didnt elect joe biden. Chris we will ask our sunday panel about President Trumps continuing bid to reverse the 2020 election. What are his chances . And. I thought about becoming a priest before i thought about becoming catholic. Chris the archbishop of washington about to make history as the nations first africanamerican cardinal. All right now on fox news sunday. Chris and hello again from fox news in washington. This weekend, americans are being urged to double down on the lifesaving measures such as social distancing and mask wearing as the death toll from the coronavirus passes 250,000 and a record 195,000 new cases just on friday. The exploding numbers prompting the cdc to urge people not to travel for thanksgiving. In a moment, we will discuss the latest spike and the good news about vaccines with dr. Tom inglesby, one of the nations leading experts on Infectious Disease. But first, Mark Meredith reports on the tough choices americans are facing this holiday season. Im a college student, so i dont really have much of a choice, but i think any unnecessary travel should be avoided. Millions of americans weighing the risks of spending the holiday around the table with loved ones. We were kind of debating on what to do between getting together with the whole family or just staying local. The demand for testing high, lines long, here in washington, National Park set to open tomorrow as a mega testing site. The number of Covid Patients in hospitals doubling in the past month and setting records every day. Overwhelming Health Care Systems and leaving frontline workers frustrated and fatigued. The restrictions are absolutely necessary right now. The pandemic is out of control. The heightened measures include some 37 states mandating masks, encouraging residents to stay home and restricting businesses. In oregon, its a two week freeze. Philadelphia, a new ban on Indoor Dining in california a nighttime curfew taking effect overnight as cases there hit 1 million and rising. The rate of increase is breathtaking and unexpected. Texas shattering its single day record this week with more than 12,000 new cases, but still resisting lockdowns. There are plenty of tools and the toolboxes of local authorities to achieve the results that are needed. Meanwhile, a Bipartisan Group of governors in the midwest where cases are skyrocketing, urging folks to stick close to home to stop the search. No one wants thanksgiving, which is an amazing time, to become a superspreader event. Chris many of those new restrictions are expected, at least for now, to last 24 weeks. We want to get the latest from dr. Tom inglesby, director of the center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins university. Doctor, i want to start with some more numbers, put them up on the screen. More than 83,000 people are now hospitalized in this country. Thats a record high. Over 16,000 nicus and more than 5,000 on ventilators. Why are we seeing this new spike right now and how close are we to overwhelming our Health Care System . Dr. Inglesby good morning, chris, thanks for having me on your show. We are seeing this new spike because of the gradual accumulation of choices and policies over the last couple of months. This virus has the ability to spread exponentially, meaning more and more rapidly if we let it and unlike the springtime, when the country really was acting kind of with common purpose around march and april at the start of this pandemic and when the virus was located and comparatively fewer places, the epidemic now is surging in almost every state in the country with the midwest and the Mountain West really being out really in front in terms of rapidly accelerating numbers of cases. So its not confined to a few places, its really spread across the country. Its not just in big cities but its in rural locations, small towns, and so that is adding up to record numbers of hospitalizations and as you said, the pressure on hospitals is the highest its been since the beginning of the pandemic with about a thousand hospitals reporting this week that theyre critically short on Health Care Workers or will be very soon and that number will grow this week, so its a very, very serious moment for the country in terms of this pandemic. Chris at least 37 states are now requiring people to wear masks in public, but the debate over masks and partial or total closures, shutdowns, is continuing. Here is south dakota governor kristi noem. Im not in favor of mandating mask wearing. I dont believe that i have the authority to mandate that and that people can use their own personal responsibility to make a decision when it comes to masks. Chris what about the argument that government can recommend, but it shouldnt be ordering people what to do or not to do . Dr. Inglesby well, we trust government to do things to keep us safe, so we trust government to set speed limits in neighborhoods so we dont drive too fast and risk, you know, injuring or killing kids were playing in the street and a neighborhood, so i think that would be the analogy i would think of here. I think there are some times when its really important for government to set the rules and to ask people to follow them and i think this is one of those times. If 37 states can set mask mandates, than the set rest of the states can set mask mandates as well, and they should. Chris let me ask you about another aspect of this particular debate. New york city just shut down its Public School system, forcing more than 1 Million Students to stay at home, but there is some growing evidence that in fact schools are not major spreaders of the disease. Here is cdc director dr. Robert redfield this week. The truth is for kids k12 one of the safest places they can be from our perspective is to remain in school. Chris doctor, whats the science . Our kids safer staying in scho school . Dr. Inglesby so it does look like at the k through eight level of school that kids are both certainly at lower risk of serious disease and probably because of the way school happens, smaller groups of kids, not mixing together, no large assemblies, that they are safer than high schools or universities for example. If we havent had reports of major outbreaks driving transmission in communities, but on the other hand, we are not systematically enough collecting data around the country right now. And schools that have made mitigation measures have been able to decrease classroom density, have been able to have kids wear masks, and assemblies, change pickup and dropoff, those schools we think are doing better and are creating safer environments, but not all schools have been able to do that. Not all schools have the resources to put mitigation measures in place so i do think its hard to have universal rules read i dont think we can go that far, but in places where they put mitigation procedures in place and community transmission, and a particular School District is relatively low. I do think those are safer environments. The problem is that now we are seeing transmission levels across the country that are higher than theyve ever been since the start of this pandemic number so we are kind of entering in uncharted territories in many places, which have enormous rates of spread, so we havent seen those rates of spread in other parts of the world so we dont really have those places to learn from and i think we have to be very cautious about making judgments about safety in schools when the rate gets so high in communiti communities. Chris and then there is thanksgiving. We are seeing already airports with long lines of people waiting in line, going through security, getting on planes. Should people travel for things giving are not, and if they are bound to anyway, what can they do to minimize their risk . Dr. Inglesby so, i would recommend that people do not travel on thanksgiving for this particular holiday. I think if you look at the map of spread across the country, you can see the risk. Its very visible. And moving through airports or travel hubs, i think that will increase peoples risk, but even if theyre driving from pointtopoint, unfortunately, we dont know if we are infected when we walk into a gathering. Cdc came out with data this week that said more than 50 of infections that are happening are caused by people with no symptoms. So i think the message for everyone is you cant assume that you dont have the virus and you cant assume that the people whos home youre about to enter dont have the virus. At this point in our pandemic. So we really should discourage traveling and kind of stick with our nuclear families, the people that we live with. If if you are going to travel to someone elses home for thanksgiving, that if possible you should spend as much Time Outdoors when youre together. In some places that may be possible with the weather, other places not. People should be Wearing Masks indoors when theyre together and only removing them when theyre eating. We should probably keep meals short and spend more time with masks on and the small of the the better, but in general i would recommend against it. I love being with my family on thanksgiving but this year we are staying home just our nuclear family. Chris but dr. Scott atlas, who is one of President Trumps top covid19 officials, gave very different advice this week, take a look. This kind of isolation is one of the unspoken tragedies of the elderly, were not being told dont see her family at thanksgiving. For many people, this is their final thanksgiving, believe it or not. Where we doing here . Chris straight out, should people listen to dr. Atlas or not . Dr. Inglesby i dont think so. There are a number of officials from the u. S. Government who have 30 years of experience preparing for and responding to Infectious Disease outbreaks, including dr. Fauci and i think their advice has been very clear. Cdcs advice is very clear, cdcs job is to try to prevent the spread of outbreaks. I think i dont know dr. Atlas, but his background is quite different and i think we should stick with the scientists who have led us through past outbreaks. Chris ive got to go questions i want to squeeze in here so im going to need quick answers from you. First of all, there is some good news, and that of course is the fact that it looks like we have not one, but two vaccines as part of operation warp speed that are on the way. Pfizer on friday applied for emergency authorization. Assuming that they are approved by the fda, how confident should americans be about taking these vaccines . Dr. Inglesby i wouldnt call this great good news, i wouldcall it great. We have two vaccines that are making their way through the approval process that may be as high as 95 effective and seemed to be safe based on the information weve seen so far. Obviously they need to go through the usual fda review process, and thats going to begin now or one of the vaccines and will begin shortly for the second, but if it does get through that process and if they are reviewed by an external Scientific Committee which has no stake in the outcome except for the safety and effectiveness for americans of these vaccines, then i will have confidence in those vaccines. Of course i want to know about others from within the government, with a think about it, what dr. Fauci think about it, what other scientific authorities in fda and cdc think about it but at this point i will have confidence in the vaccine and if it makes it through those processes and i think it will help us change the course of this pandemic in the months ahead. Chris finally, and i need a quick answer here, the delayed transition of president elect biden said today that people may die because the Trump Administration is not reading them in on Vaccine Distribution issues for a seamless turnover on january 20th, with the president s press secretary Kayleigh Mcenany said that that information is already out there. Take a look. We dont have access to all the information that we need to get from all the various agencies. The covid19 vaccination program, the interim playbook for jurisdiction operations, this is publicly available if the former Vice President would like to read through it. Chris issue right . Is the public playbook enough . Dr. Inglesby no, its not. Theres so much going on inside the government to prepare to respond to this pandemic and to prepare for it. I think about it like a hospital taking care of many patients. When a shift is leaving, the doctors and nurses who have been taken care of all the sick patients, they spend time with the shift that is coming in. They want to explain the details, what could go wrong, whos been in trouble. Thats the same thing that should be happening now. We should be going over the details, the people who are leaving are going to need to spend time with and explain in detail all the science and the data for people who are coming in. Chris dr. Ingelsby, thank you. Thanks again for your time and we wish you a happy and safe thanksgiving, sir. Dr. Inglesby thanks so much, chris, you too. Chris up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the politics and policy of covid19 and the promise of vaccines that look to be on the way. This is andy, my schwab financial consultant. 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If youre fighting a battle and the cavalry is on the way, you dont stop shooting, you keep going until the cavalry gets here and then you might even want to continue fighting. Chris dr. Anthony fauci, the nations top Infectious Disease official, urging americans to continue best practices just a bit longer as we wait for those covid vaccines. And its time now for a sunday group, former republican congressman jason chaffetz. Former democratic congresswoman jane harman, director of the Wilson Center and Jonathan Swan from axios. Jonathan, is there any push inside the white house to begin a provisional transition to read members of the Biden Transition Team in on things like Vaccine Distribution just in case, or is that still regarded as an act of disloyalty to President Trump and his effort to overturn election . None whatsoever. An act of disloyalty to President Trump and no one in his circle has coercive power to that effect at this point. They are privately distancing themselves from the rudy giuliani, sidney powell, jenna ellis legal effort which now asserts that there is an International Criminal communist conspiracy stretching from venezuela to cuba involving hacking into Voting Machines and switching millions of votes. Thats not a widely accepted theory inside trumps inner circle, even some of his most hardcore loyalists staying the heck away from that, but that doesnt mean that they are sitting down with the president saying mr. President , you have to concede and start doing transition. Thats not happening as far as my reporting is concerned. Chris congressman, this week the governor of your state, of utah, issued a mask mandate for the first time. As we are seeing, and you just heard dr. Ingles ingelsby stay the spread of the virus is the worst that its been by several measures, several multiples, 190 cases on friday alone. Our some conservatives beginning to rethink this issue of mandates and closures and shutdowns . Well, i think doing it statebystate does make sense. Utah early on in the process was not suffering a major outbreak, but i think the principle of personal decisionmaking, making sure that the information is out there and that people take personal responsibility is still core to what republicans believe in and if donald trump and his administration very early in this process talked about the 15 days to slow the spread into wash her hands vigorously, dont touch your face, wear a mask, and to be socially distant and i still think that those are viable you know, thats the way people should go, but they also have to have some degree of personal responsibility because in some of the most stringent places like new york, theyve seen some of the highest death rates, so we learned a lot, but those are smart things to do and we should listen to the scientists. Chris but, as i said, the republican governor of the deeply red state of utah issued a mask mandate for the first time. Do you have a problem with that . Its not as deep as some of these other states. There was a very strong recommendation, but its not so far as to say what gavin newsom said in california to wear a mask and to put it back on in between bites of food. Thats not what governor herbert said. Chris no, he didnt say that, he just said wear a mask when you can. Congresswoman, i want to talk to you about these two vaccines that have now gone through the trial process and one of them at pfizer is now seeking emergency use authorization. Here is the head of pfizer. We are announcing that finally we are submitting our application for emergency use authorization to the u. S. Fda. Chris doesnt President Trump deserve credit, in fact a great deal of credit, for operation warp speed and the private partner private privatepublic partnership which has resulted in two vaccines in less than ten months with more on the way . Yes. I think he does. But lets understand that the Pharma Companies started ahead of warp speed to start developing these vaccines and developed them in a brandnew way, so yes he does, congress does too. Congress provided 10 billion in the cares act in march, which give a jumpstart to moderna, which had virtually no ability to do this. Pfizer did. Pfizer has been much more successful, Robust Company and now they are both almost at the finish line at one more point, chris. Developing a vaccine is great. Getting them in peoples arms is the new challenge and i want President Trump to be first in line getting one of those vaccines so that he can show millions of americans who still think we need to stop the steel that these are safe and efficacious because we wont get to the end of this unless we have a country where a huge number of people are vaccinated. Chris but, jonathan, instead of celebrating the pfizer announcement on friday, President Trump suggested that the company had actually held up its announcement of the new vaccine until after the election. Take a look at the president on friday. They waited and waited and waited and thought they would come out with it a few days after the election. And it would have probably had an impact, who knows, maybe it wouldnt have. Im sure they would have found the ballots someplace, the democrats. Chris does the president really believe that big pharma was out to get him and purposely in the case of pfizer delayed this announcement because he wants to lower drug prices . Well, that would require sort of an mri of his soul. I dont know whether he genuinely believes that grade he certainly was saying it privately to advisors in the lead up to election. He was watching these ads hitting him from the pharmaceutical industry and he was making promise to comments to his aides that we are clearly doing something right, you know, they are trying to get me as one of these aides said to me, he sees everything through the prison of his self. So its completely in character for him to see that announcement is all about him and trying to game the election. Chris congressman, last word here. I need a pretty brief last word. Do you think its credible that pfizer was playing politics here and delaying the announcement of this vaccine, which is so important to the country, so important to pfizer, just to try to hurt the president s reelection chances . I really dont know, chris, but it did come out just one week after the election. I wish it had come out naturally when it was supposed to but most importantly i hope it helps and saves the lives of millions of americans. Chris well, i think thats something that all of us can agree on. Panel, we have to take a break here, but when we come back, how president elect biden is proceeding facing resistance from the Trump White House and pressure from the left. We will talk with a key member of the biden team. Thats next. To high quality Computer Science and stem education. I joined amazon because i wanted to change education and i am impatient. Amazon gives me the resources to change the world at a pace that i want to change it. 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Learn more at an xfinity store today. Chris president elect biden is expected to announce key members of his cabinet this week, even as President Trump keeps trying to overturn the election. In a moment, we will speak with kate bedingfield, Senior Advisor to the biden transition period of but lets begin with Jacqui Heinrich, who is tracking the president elect and delaware. Jacqui. Chris, president elects joe Biden Legal Team says the system is working as recounts affirm his win. Cases are tossed in court, including a case in battleground pennsylvania yesterday in michigan legislators are summoned to washington in an apparent bid to appoint faceless electors. While the president and his allies are ripping at the fabric of the democracy in any way they can come of the fabric is not tearing. Its holding firm. Despite coordinating with federal agencies amid a Public Health and economic crisis, president elect joe biden steam so far has not pursued legal action. Its not going to speeded up considerably in my view. In the meantime, i am hopeful that im going to be able to get cooperation from our republican colleagues in the senate and the house. Instead, hes forming his government amid calls for inclusion from progressives and some criticism over his first hires. I would encourage people to wait until hes made even one announcement about a cabinet member and certainly more than just a [indiscernible] before they pass judgment. Biden is also calling on states and congress to do what he cant right now, including passing in emergency aid package to fight the pandemic and repair the economy. In my oval office, mi casa you casa. I hope we are going to spend a lot of time together. Biden is expected to announce some cabinet nominees on tuesday. Hes arty picked his choice to head up the treasury and significantly that name has not been leaked, chris. Chris Jacqui Heinrich reporting from wilmington. Jacqui, thank you. Joining us now, Senior Advisor to the Biden Transition Team, kate bedingfield. Kate, welcome back to fox news sunday. Kate thanks for having me, chris. Chris does the president elect have any concerns whether or not President Trumps effort to overturn election will succeed, and is he reconsidering at alls decision not to go to court either one to protect his victory in the election and two, to try to force the transition to begin . Kate no. He does not have any concern. I think what weve seen over the course of the last few weeks are these lawsuits, these lawsuits from the Trump Campaign and their allies have been last outofcourt laughed outofcourt, they are getting no traction. Weve seen the republican governor and republican secretary of state in georgia this week reaffirm the recount results there, reaffirm the outcomes that joe biden won the state of georgia. Look, joe biden won the selection by 80 million votes. He won 306 Electoral College votes, which is the same outcome from 2016 that donald trump called a landslide. So no, we have absolutely no concern that this is going to have any outcome on the election itself. On your question about the transition and suing the gsa, i would say look, you know, litigation is not a fantasy. It is not going to suddenly move things forward. What will move things forward is the gsa administrator signing the piece of paper, you know, the statute says that its her obligation to ascertain the apparent winner of the election. I dont think theres anybody in the world would suggest except maybe the folks around donald trump that joe biden was not the apparent winner of this election. Again, he won 306 Electoral College votes and 80 million votes from americans all across the country, so she should ascertain the results of the election so we can move forward with a seamless transition. Chris in his defense, President Trump argues that democrats sought to delegitimize his election from the very sta start. In pushing the idea there was a russia collusion, pushing the mueller investigation, even impeaching him. The president says that your side has no right to complain now when he is contesting this election. Kate that is, frankly, chris, i think that is absurd and that is an apples and oranges comparison at best. But we are talking about right now is donald trump actively trying to overturn the will of the American People statebystate than what we are seeing across the board is that courts across the country, governors and secretaries of state across the country are rejecting that. Theyre saying the election was fair, it was legitimate. Joe biden won by a handy margin, again, a margin that donald trump called himself a landslide in 2016 we are continuing to see republicans come out and acknowledge this as well. Senator toomey made a statement yesterday acknowledging joe biden as the president elect and encouraging the transition to move forward. Weve seen even Donald Trumps National Security advisor Robert Obrien has said that the transition should move forward. So i think all across the country americans what about the argument if i may, what about the argument that democrats were trying to overturn the legitimate election of donald trump . Maybe not so much in contesting the election, but the way they acted on a number of fronts with investigations over the four years of his presidency . Kate i dont think that when a president gets elected that he is no longer held accountable as he moves through his ministry she end. I think thats incredibly different thing. I think investigations into whether a president has behaved appropriately or not are an entirely different matter than what donald trump is trying to do here, which is to actively overturn the will of the American People, to subvert the democratic system, to so doubt about the foundations of our democracy. That is a completely different thing and, look, its a p. R. Stunt. Its a sideshow. I think it would only have to look at Rudy Giulianis press conference a couple of days ago to appreciate that this is not a serious, sophisticated effort. And most importantly, it will fail. It has failed. Its continuing to fail, because again, joe biden overwhelmingly won this election, 306 Electoral College votes. Of the American People voted for joe biden to be sworn in on january 20th, 2021, and he will be. Chris how many we understand that its been announced the president elect is going to name some cabinet appointments on tuesday. How many, and which ones . Kate well, i have been in business long enough to know that im not going to get ahead of president elect biden and his announcement, but youre right, we will be making our first cabinet announcements on tuesday of this week and i would say the president elect is very excited about this team and looks forward to introducing them to the country. Chris can you even tell us a number, how many . Kate i cant. Everyone will have to just tune in on tuesday and it will be made known then. Chris okay. The president also president elect, and we showed it in jacquis piece. Met with nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer on friday and he talked afterwards about he wants to see a covid relief bill passed by the Lame Duck Congress and the next couple of weeks. Cant wait until january 20th. Question when is he going to meet with Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell . Kate well, hes looking forward to doing that when the time is right. Obviously he and senator mcconnell have had productive working relationship in the past and he looks forward to meeting with senator mcconnell when that moment when that moment arrives. But youre absolutely right. He believes that we need to get a relief bill done in the lame duck. People are hurting all over the country. People need money in their pockets to make rent. They need money in their pockets to afford groceries. While businesses need that money. Teachers need that money. Tough decisions about layoffs of firefighters and essential workers are being made all over this country because Congress Wont move forward on a package. That is a priority for him and something hes going to continue to push in the lame duck. Chris but, kate, you cant pass covid relief without the Senate Majority leader he is the majority leader in the senate, Mitch Mcconnell. Is the president elect ready to meet with him now . Im trying to get a sense, is it president elect biden who was holding up the meeting, or is it Mitch Mcconnell . Kate we strongly hope that senator mcconnell will come to the table. I think if you look at where the democrats have been across the entire course of this year. You know, democrats passed a bill back in may and weve seen weve seen obstruction from republicans, so obvious we are very helpful that Mitch Mcconnell will come to the table. It is important. People are expecting it. They voted for it in this election they voted for action. They voted for progress and they voted chris would biden meet would biden meet with mcconnell right now . Kate yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. It is important that senator mcconnell comes to the table and we are very hopeful we are very hopeful that we will be able to see progress soon on this bill because people all across the country desperately needed. Chris the president elect is already taking heat from the left wing of the democratic party. I want to play some of that that we saw this week. Take a look. We are going to make sure that the Biden Administration sticks to our timeline is moving towards our timeline, and so i ask all of you, do not move from the needle. Do not. Thats what our next move is. To make sure that the Biden Administration keeps its promi promise. Chris and senator Bernie Sanders said it would be enormously insulting if biden ignored the progressive community. So how much pressure does the president elect feel to repay the left for its support in this election . Kate joe biden was elected within incredibly Broad Coalition of voters and a Broad Coalition of support. That includes support from the progressive wing of the party. That includes support from the more moderate wing of the party. It includes support from independents and republicans. He won 80 million votes across the country. An historic number of votes for a president elect. We have every intention i can tell you definitively joe biden is going to keep his promises. He laid out plans on this campaign that are bold and that meet the crises that we are facing. Were facing four incredibly overwhelming and historic crises in this country, including the Public Health crisis and the economic crisis that goes with it in addition to the Climate Crisis and the Racial Injustice crisis we are seeing in this country. He campaigned on bold plans to tackle all of these crises that he has every intention of keeping his promises. Chris kate, thank you, thanks for joining us. I hope you get at least the day off for thanksgiving, but i expect its a busy time for you. Kate it is, but thank you very much for having me. I appreciate being here, chris. Chris up next, our sunday panel returns to discuss President Trumps ongoing efforts to challenge the results of the 2020 election. Big pharma ran millions of dollars of negative advertisements against me during the campaign, which i won, by the way. But we will find that out. Almost 74 million votes. We had big pharma against us. We had the media against us. We had big tech against us. Chris President Trump once again claiming victory over joe biden and a wide array of opponents and we are back now with the panel. Jonathan, the president and his legal team had a bad week in trying to overturn the election both in court and also in meetings with state legislators and trying to get them to flip the electors that each state will appoint. Where does the president stand now in this effort to try to reverse the results of the election . Will its hard to actually see. I just got a fundraising email from the Trump Campaign assuring me that there is a path to victory in raising small dollar donations from a bunch of republican donors, small donors, many of them elderly telling them that there is still a way to win. I cant see it and frank they want to talk to most of the president s Senior Advisors whether it be the campaign of the west wing, they cant see it either. They are not saying that publicly of course, but thats what they do say privately almost universally. They are trying several tracks. They are trying litigation, the just got thrown out of court in pennsylvania. They are trying sort of coercion with some of these state legislatures, trying to get them to overturn the electors, and then there doing a sort of macro i dont even know what you would call it, but this is what i referred to earlier. This Conspiracy Theory that is very hard to follow, but is being pushed by his chris im going to pick up on that. Okay. Chris but from everything you can see, the president is still full speed ahead . Yap. I havent seen any sign that hes pulling back, but again, i see no sign that theres any plausible path forward. Chris congressman, you are a loyal supporter of the president , but i want to play and this is what jonathan was referring to a clip of one of the top members of his legal team this week. Take a look. What we are really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through venezuela, cuba, and likely china in the interference with our elections here in the united states. Chris there is not, congressman, a shred of evidence that any of that is true. Do you have no concerns that this may be damaging the count country . I do have some concerns. Its one thing to have a president or to have a press conference, but they do need to produce evidence. And quite frankly, the only ones that matters are in front of a court and so they got to prevail in a court. Supposedly they are going to be aggressive there in the state of georgia. I do think there is evidence there. To suggest that there is no i think would be wrong, let me just chris wait, wait. Congressman, you think theres evidence of communist money pouring through venezuela, cuba, and china to overthrow this election . No. Chris to elect joe biden . No. But what i do chris you dont think that . Likely china. I think theres youre trying to lump it into just one group. Im just saying there are lots of fronts on which there are some bits of evidence. But to suggest that theres likely chinese money flowing through this, i dont see any evidence of that. Even the attorney is saying it might happen, but the point i want to make here, chris, is continuity of government is imperative. I do think the gsa should loosen up that money. Maybe the president will prevail. Personally, i hope that they do. But if they dont, continuity of government is far too important and that should happen. Chris congresswoman, i want to pull back on this just a little bit because what the president is trying to do here in a specific case where he met with state legislatures, is trying to tie up states that biden won, their ability to name electors for biden so that the state legislatures in places where they are controlled by republicans could actually certify trumpet electors. What do you make all that . Well, theyre up to no good. I observed elections in about ten countries, including afghanistan and chile and ukraine and everywhere else over the years. Never expecting that my own country would set a bad example. In fact, Richard Nixon after he lost in 1960, when there was some credible evidence of election fraud, unlike now, said that the transition had to proceed because he didnt want to set a bad example. This is bogus. Im a member of the 44 person National Council on election integrity, equal dems and republicans, who say to a person that this has to stop. And what hes trying now. Hes absolutely failed in terms of litigation strategy is to blow up the Electoral College. And in michigan, again, theres a request for a 14 delay a delay which i hope will be turned down or the governor, if she has to, will replace a couple of the electors and get this going. But the point is to delay the vote through december 14th, which is when its supposed to happen. And then in some hail mary sense, throw this to the house where the election goes by state and there are 26 states that have a majority republican delegation, so he would technically win in the house. I dont think it will work. I think its past time to get on with the transition and i do think i disagree totally with kelly machen any that that theres a handbook that biden should be reading about this. Chris ive got less than a minute left, jonathan. As i discussed with kate bedingfield, the president elect is getting some real heat from the left now. We help to win this election, now we want payback. Much clout does the left have with the president elect biden and his transition, both in terms of policy and personnel . I think very little. Firstly, they tried to defeat him in the primaries and they didnt. And now they are in a position where frankly youre looking at, and less they have a disaster in the georgia runoffs, a republicancontrolled senate. They can pass the Green New Deal through the house or push forward Elizabeth Warren at treasury, but good luck. Good luck getting any of that through Mitch Mcconnells senate. Chris thank you, panel. See you next sunday and happy thanksgiving to all of you. Up next, our power player of the week. The archbishop of washington on leading catholics in the Nations Capital and about to make history once again. This is andy, my schwab financial consultant. Heres andy listening to my goals and making plans. This is us talking taxsmart investing, managing risk, and all the ways schwab can help me invest. 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I resolve to serve faithfully the spiritual needs of this local church. Chris Wilton Gregory has been the archbishop of washington for 18 months and its been a painful time for catholics here. In 2019, longterm cardinal was defrocked after being found guilty of sexual abuse. How do you help parishioners and priests keep their trust in the church . I have to be a man whos committed to telling people the truth. As best as i know. Chris what do you say about the portrayal by the cardinal . I think its terrific. It was just an egregious betrayal of trust that has deeply wounded this local church. Do this in memory of me. Chris as soon as he took over, gregory started talking to parishioners and holding listening sessions with priests to discuss the Church Scandals that have troubled all of them. Have they tested your faith in the church as an institution . Chris, they havent tested my faith. They tested my patience. Chris as head of the archdiocese in the Nations Capital, gregory has to deal with subjects beyond religion. He supports a path to citizenship as part of comprehensive Immigration Reform at a time when people crossing the border illegally is still highly charged. Anyone who denigrates the people who seek a better future, a more positive way of living for their family, to denigrate them is wrong. Chris gregory was in sixth grade when he transferred from public to parochial school. In short order, he decided to convert to catholicism and become a priest. I thought about becoming a priest before i thought about becoming a catholic. Chris to be a priest, it would be hopeful to be a catholic. You said exactly what my own pastor said, that if youre interested in being a priest, we got to take this stepbystep. You cant steal first base. Chris this week, gregory will take an historic step, becoming the first africanamerican cardinal in the u. S. , the rank just below the papacy and the Catholic Church. When we spoke last year, gregory said he was in no hurry for pope francis to change the color of his vestments. I thin think you would be vey disappointed if he sent me here and i got a bad case of scarlet fever. The first concern before i think about a color that i might wear is to care for the people that are here right in front of me. Chris due to the pandemic, gregory arrived in rome early so he could quarantine for ten days before the ceremony next weekend. And thats it for today. Have a great week and a happy and safe thanksgiving and we will see you next fox news sunday. Todays ways of working may work differently tomorrow. But you can work out anything with comcast business. Get fast, reliable, and secure internet on the nations largest gig speed network. Flexible tools like wifi you control. Voice solutions that connect you from anywhere. And expert advice here, here, or even here. Be fast. Be flexible. 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