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President ial candidate, senator Amy Klobuchar, and ask about her plan for the economy in a Fox News Sunday 2020 sit down. Plus, our sunday panthen president s plan to end family separations at the border by allowing children to be detained longer. This new rule will do even more to bring them together. Chris all right now now on Fox News Sunday. Chris and hello again from fox news in washington. President trump is back on the world stage at a critical time of the Global Economy as trade disputes are raising fears of a recession. All eyes are on mr. Trump to see how hell navigate tensions with allies at the group of seven nations summit in france. One of the big questions, just how far hell go in his standoff with china buried in a moment we will speak exclusively with treasury secretary mnuchin, who was at the g7 with the president. First, john roberts has the latest on the president s trip. John. Good afternoon to you from just a short distance away from where the g7 summit is being held, and escalating trade war between the United States and china really taking center stage here at a breakfast meeting with the new u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson. President trump asked this morning if he has any reservations about where the trade war is headed. Might as well. Might as well. I have second thoughts about everything. After President Trumps comments were interpreted as regret for the trade work, the press secretary later said of the president regrets anything its not raising tariffs higher. President trump did say he has no plans at the moment to invoke Emergency Powers to force American Companies to stop doing business with china, also insisting he is under no pressure from g7 allies to end the trade war. Allowed them to get away with taking hundreds of billions of dollars out every year and putting it into china, so the answer is nobody will tell me that. In his first meeting with President Trump since becoming u. K. Prime minister, Boris Johnson mildly voicing his dissent. As the trade war with China Remains at a hot boil, President Trump today announced that he and japanese Prime Ministers shinzo abe are very close to rewriting their trade relationship. If it gets done we will possibly know by the end of this meeting. Another topic of controversy at the g7, the desire to invite russia back into the fold and resurrect the g8. I think its adventitious. I think its a positive. Other people agree with me and some people dont necessarily agree. Next years g7 summit will be held somewhere in the United States as the host, President Trump can invite anyone he wants to to the summ, even vladimir putin. Chris john roberts reporting from the g7 in france. Thanks for that. Joining us now for an exclusive interview from the summit, treasury secretary steven mnuchin. Mr. Secretary, i want to ask you first about the president s comment this morning that he has second thoughts about the trade one with china, which set off some confusion, which i hope you will clear up, which is it . Is he regretting how far the trade war has gone . Is he thinking about holding off on another round of tariffs, or does he wish he been even more aggressive . Secretary mnuchin well, chris, its great to be here with you. The president is determined to have fair and reciprocal trade with china in this mornings comment was meant to say that hes determined as ever on this issue. He wants a good deal. He wants free, fair, and reciprocal trade. Chris President Trump tweeted this on friday about american businesses, i want to put it up on the screen. Our great American Companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to china, including bringing your companys home and making our products in the usa. Mr. Secretary, is the president ordering u. S. Companies to stop doing business with china and if so, under what authority . Secretary mnuchin well, he would have the authority to do that if he declared an emergency. He has not done that. I think what he was saying is hes ordering companies to start looking because he wants to make sure to the extent we are in an extended trade war that companies dont have these issues and move out of china and we want them to be in places where they are trading partners that respect us and trade with us fairly. Chris i want to just push down on us a little bit because the president claims he does have authority on something called the emergency economic powers act passed in 1977, here he is on friday night. While in 1977 we had an act passed, a National Emergency we will see how that goes but i have the absolute right. 1977, check it out. Chris but there are a couple of problems here, mr. Secretary. First of all, as you pointed out the president has to declare a National Emergency, which he hasnt. Secondly, the act only blocks american countries sending future funds, not past investments. And also in the past of the last 42 years has only been used to stop businesses without law nations or with drug dealers, not with trading partners. So is this really a realistic option for the president . Secretary mnuchin the president has lots of options. And again, our first choice is to have fair and reciprocal trade. The reason why we put on tariffs is for the last two and a half years weve been working with china to rebalance the trading relationship and it hasnt rebalanced. The trade deficit has grown significantly despite assurances from china that we would improve this. As you know, when we were close to a deal, the president was happy and they backed off of that. So the president does have lots of authorities. You know we use these authorities successfully with mexico on certain issues there. We now are close to having to flee usmca past. A terrific meeting with canada today on this and were looking forward to getting that agreement past. Chris so just to this up, the president fully intends to impose the next round of sanctions as hes announced on september 1st unless there is some break in the negotiations . Secretary mnuchin absolutely. And to the extent that the chinese respond again, you can assume the president will consider all his options. Chris i want to ask you about another tweet from the president on friday, lets put this up on the screen. The only question is, who is our bigger enemy, jay powell, the head of the Federal Reserve, or the president of china . Question, does the president really regard the chairman of the Federal Reserve, whom he appointed, to be an enemy of the country and i guess a larger question, which is with all of these statements from the president , all of these tweets, how seriously, how literally should we take what the president says he met secretary mnuchin well, let me first comment on the president she side of this. I was with President Trump today and he was very clear that president xi is still his friend, he has a very Good Relationship with president xi. We worked on lots of Different Things together, but as it relates to Financial Issues and trade, we have become enemies. We are not making progress. But this was not intended to send a message that president xi is his enemy in the sense of all these different areas and the other thing i would say is we are very hopeful that there will be a humane solution in hong kong. We are obviously watching whats going on there. The president again reiterated he thinks that president xi sat down with the protesters, he could get this over with in a few hours, so we are hopeful that there will be calm in hong kong. Chris let me pick up on that. If there isnt, if the chinese were to crackdown as they did in Tiananmen Square in 1989, what impact will that have on u. S. Relations with china . Secretary mnuchin are not going to speculate because thats not the outcome we are hoping for. The outcome were hoping for is a peaceful outcome. I think you know there was a deal with the u. K. One hong kong was transferred over. We would expect china to meet that deal. And its something we hope they respect the laws and they respect whats going on there but President Trump is hoping there will be a humane solution there. Chris so you were at pains to say chairman she is not an enemy of the country, but you didnt say the same about fed chairman powell. Secretary mnuchin really i wanted to first comment on president xi. On powell i think i dont think it was a literal comment that he is an enemy, but you know my position on the fed is that i dont make specific comments about the fed. I meet with chairman powell weekly and as my role as treasury secretary, i dont comment specifically on the fed. Chris but this does bring up the bigger question, which i do want you to address. For americans, whether just people, people investing, ceos, when the president says something, how seriously, how literally should we take it . Secretary mnuchin i think most of the time you should take it very literally. I think sometimes he says things that are meant to be a joke. Obviously the comment recently on the chosen one, that was said tongueincheek. If that wasnt meant to be a serious comment. I think most people know the president is serious about china and trade, so people should understand that. He is very determined. Hes trying to correct something thats gone on for the last 20 years, but we have a very unfair trading relationship thats been a tremendous disadvantage to u. S. Companies and u. S. Workers. And hes working hard to rebalance that. Chris when chairman powell spoke at that fed conference out in wyoming on friday, he said one of the greatest headwinds that he and the economy are facing are the president s trade policies. In fact, there are a number, and i think we could all agree, there are a number of signs of strength in the economy, especially jobs, especially gdp growth, at least solid signs of strength, but there are some concerns and i want to ask you about those. Growth of Business Investment dropped from 9 last year to 1. 4 now in the Manufacturing Sector has contracted for the First Time Since 2009. Secretary mnuchin, many Financial Experts say one of the biggest headwinds that they now face as companies deciding whether to invest more investors deciding whether to put more money in the stock market, is uncertainty about Administration Policies and that that uncertainty is a much bigger problem than whether or not the fed should drop Interest Rates 100 basis points or 1 . Secretary mnuchin let me first comment that the single biggest thing that everybody is talking about here in france is the u. S. Economy. If the bright spot in the world. We have growth. People are not talking about doing tax cuts and cutting regulations in europe, so people are looking at the trump economic policies and wanting to replicate them, because thats the reason we have all this growth. Second issue id say is the consumer is very, very strong. We are seeing that across the board and the third issue i would say is on these other statistics i think youve got to look at them quarterly. There is a bunch of volatility. At the end of last year people worry about the economy slowing down based upon some numbers and then the numbers came out in the beginning of this year and it was clear the economy was roaring back. And as it relates to uncertainty, theres only one area, and thats trade. We are close to having a major announcement with japan. We expect to have usmca passed in the next month or two. Thats going to add a significant amount to u. S. Growth and growth in mexico. And in canada, we had the korea deal done. If theres three or four other major agreements that the ambassador is working on. So these trading relationships are going to add significantly to growth and we are still somewhat hopeful that china will come around and enter into a fair, good deal with us. Chris let me just push back a little bit on the idea that the only concern is trade. Because the president has flipped on a few issues. For instance, tariffs and taxes in recent days and i want to play some of his contradictory statements. Speak of the tariffs are not being paid for by our people, its being paid for by china. We do it for the christmas season, just in case some of the tariffs would have an impact on u. S. Customers. Payroll taxes something that we think about and a lot of people would like to see that. Are not looking at a tax cut now, we dont need it, we have a strong economy. Chris the issue is whether or not you can see this widely. Im sure youve read it too, secretary, whether this administration has a steady path to keep us out of recession. And the question i guess i have for you is as the markets open on monday after falling 600 points in just a few hours on friday, what do you have to say to that . Secretary mnuchin chris, first of all, we dont see a recession on the horizon. I dont think the yield curve reflects a dissent recession. I think the yield curve reflects the fact that it anticipates the fed is going to lower shortterm rates. And the long and has already reflected that. If thats the thing. The second thing on tariffs, the reason why the president decided to delay 150 billion of tariffs was because u. S. Companies had already purchased those goods for holiday in u. S. Dollars, so it was a very specific situation that had nothing to do with passing on or not passing on those had been permitted to prior to the tariffs going into effect and thats something we wanted to do as it relates to holiday. As it relates to prices going up, Going Forward we have seen china depreciate their currency. Thats going to mean that a significant amount of the tariffs are paid for by china. If we havent any inflation yet. We havent seen prices go up. We will have some exceptions for the rare circumstances where we have problems and the ambassador is running that. So i dont think theres any mischaracterization on the terrace issue. And id be happy to comment on the tax issue if you want as well. Chris we are out of time. But thats only a better reason for you to come back when youre back in his country and set across the desk from us and we will have a conversation. Secretary mnuchin, thank you, thanks for taking time from the summit to speak with us and we will be tracking developments out of france, sir. Secretary mnuchin my pleasure, look forward to seeing you soon. Chris good. Up next we will bring in the sunda group to discuss growing concerns about the state of the economy in the president s increasingly bitter war with fed chair jay powell. Sfx record scratch music plays throughout [ watch me walk by Spencer Ludwig ] yo dj, can i put in a request . Dont have no sass about this im on my way im on my way cant take no class about this im on my way im on my like this this is a moment you plan for. 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Companies get out of china, the Federal Reserve chairman is an enemy of the country. What are we to make of all this . We make that its a wild, wild friday. Lets step back for just a moment. If the president is making a gigantic bet. His reelection depends on three things. A strong economy, the democrats nominating somebody whos out of the mainstream or can be depicted as out of the mainstream to the American People, and doing something to rehabilitate his strength among suburbanites who defected to the democrats in 2018. Friday raised the stakes on the economy. Is a lot good in the economy. Democrats talk about it. You wonder whether they are fearing for the economy or hoping for recession, but think about this, Consumer Confidence up in july. Nfib Small Business numbers up in july. Confidence of Small Business people, top 7 of the 50 some odd year history of their pole. If singlefamily housing purchases up nearly 2 over jul july. Chris so why is the president acting when hes acting . He doesnt act as if he believes it. Hes made a big bet on redoing the relationship with china and that involves some challenges to our economy. We sought on friday he tweets and 600 points later we are at the bottom of the day on the dow. But having said that, Paul Samuelson was right, the nobel economist, when he said the stock market has called nine out of the last five recessions. I dont put a lot into that one day but the president is making a huge bet that hes going to be able to pull off a deal with china and its going to be good for the economy and at the economy will be in good shape in 2020. Chris julie, let me pick up exactly on what karl said. From what youre hearing from your sources at the white house, how freaked out is the president at the possibility, despite all this good news, that there could be a recession and that the tensions with china could help precipitate . From whatever he toggles between two different views on this. On the one hand he watches the markets incredibly closely. He believes the markets are a signal of the strength of the economy and so he gets incredibly nervous, incredibly worried when he sees these drop. Chris weight. Hes the one the market was doing just fine on friday. Until he tweeted. Chris until he tweeted at 11 00. Thats what caused the drop. What he sees some of the other indicators as well. So he is nervous about a downturn in the economy. But then he has this part of him and also thinks that some of this is being ginned up by his political opponents. He thinks that the media is making too much out of these and he has this tendency to say look, everybody in the sort of establishment has warned me against my own election prospects, against all of these negative outcomes, all of these Different Things that ive done and i havent seen that come to fruition, why would this time be any different . Thats what he keeps the pedal on the gas largely on the finance stomach china trade talks. Chris was curious about all this is exactly the fact that we talked about, on a lot of levels the economy is pretty solid. Yes, there are some concerns, but youve got 3. 7 unemployment. Youve got gdp growth still over 2 and sometimes the president focuses on that. Take a look. I think the word recession is aware thats inappropriate because its just a word that certain people im going to be kind certain people in the media are trying to build up because they would love to see a recession. We are very far from a recession. Chris but then as we say, you get a daily friday, the president saying we are far from a recession, where he lashes out at china and the fed and start ordering u. S. Companies around the question becomes at least in my mind, does he believe his own argument . I think he does strongly and i want to point out that just after the conference when powell came out and said essentially we are not going to establish market policy to affect a recession or predicted, but we will use it for trade policy developments and about an hour later is when the president tweeted that out, essentially escalating the trade were in potentially spurring the drop in Interest Rates. I want to point out the market response to stability and certainty in that Interest Rates are not the only predictor of a recession, nor is it the only tool to stave it off. And i think what would be more important and perhaps what the president understands is that the achievement of a substantive trade deal with china, with the two most primary components being them buying more products from us and us enlarging our market share over there, including ip, that is the largest indicator and that would be the largest staving off for a recession. Especially with the european and asian markets. We are not an island, we are not isolated so yes our economy is robust but there are others that are in recessions or on the brink of recessions, germany included, with negative Interest Rates and going back to the larger picture, the most important thing is the messaging without trade deal. If one of us cannot win. Way to stay safe, us and china, for there to be a global positive response. Chris of course as karl says, all of that depends on getting a deal. If you dont get a deal, all that becomes a huge issue. We got to talk about the g7. Thats where the president is now. Hes meeting with the other six great industrialized nations and he seems to really at this point be the odd man out on a lot of issues there, whether its trade, wther is iran, whether its climate change. And also now about readmitting russia. In fact, some people are calling the g6 plus one. Right. It used to be the g8 one russia and in fact when he was leaving, the president went out of his way to blame president obama for getting russia out. The reason russia is out as they invaded crimea and i think what you get is theres differences about russia and readmit in russia. If there are differences about brexit and Boris Johnson. Trump is a huge Boris Johnson fan. The Prime Minister of britain. But money to many of the other european leaders dont want written to become a junior partner to the United States, they see that as undermining the European Union and then of course you have the trade war with china in which the president is over there, he wants them, he wants the European Countries to focus on their economies. Germany is contracting. A lot of these countries in slow down. He wants them to spur their economies on. They see the principal problem here, globally, as the trade war and that the trade war is having negative consequences not just for china, but for people who trade with china, people who do business with china. So they want to get away from us nationalistic kind of America First or nation first thought that the president is advancing. Chris good luck with that. I dont think its going to happen. Answer to your earlier question, isnt it obvious, he comes out and says how about cutting payroll taxes. How about we look at Capital Gains taxes. And he says im not doing that. Yes, hes worried about the economy. Chris let me just ask one last question, about 30 seconds left, the president blew up the last g7, if you remember a year ago in canada over his fight for tariffs. What do you expect this weekend and how much does he hate these big multilateral conferences . He hates them. Thats not unique. I think most World Leaders dont like these summits. They can be a little bit mind numbing, actually, but part of the problem that he has when he goes over there is i think he likes stirring it up with some of these World Leaders. I think he likes creating a little bit of controversy and therefore its pretty likely that were going to come out with much of an agreement on anything. Chris i do want to say before he was on the air i asked secretary mnuchin how was the food and he said its france, the food is fabulous. The one thing theyve got going for them. Chris we will have to take a break. See you later. Up next, democratic president ial candidate Amy Klobuchar on her plans for the economy, gun control and winning the nomination. Senator klobuchar joins us for a sunday sit down next. You can get a satisfaction guarantee. You can also wonder why our competitors dont offer that. Schwab, a modern approach to wealth management. Chris coming up, democratic president ial candidate Amy Klobuchar takes on Donald Trumps economy. He inherited a stable economy coming out of that downturn. So what does he do . He gloats about it, says how great it is instead of meeting the challenges of our time. Chris democratic president ial candidates have until wednesday to qualify for the third round of debates next month in houston. So far ten have qualified as the field is beginning to shrink. Someone who will be on that stage in september, senator Amy Klobuchar, who joins us now for a Fox News Sunday sit down. Senator, welcome back. Senator klobuchar well, thanks, chris, its great to be on again. Chris you say that President Trump is right to take on china, but that hes going about it the wrong way, so given al the problems with trade with china, how would president klobuchar get tough with china and get them to clean up their act . Senator klobuchar in this case, chris, i think youve seen it in so many other areas, he creates chaos. And i dont think thats a good forgetting an agreement with a country like china. You look at what hes done and you pointed this out earlier, august 1st he claims hes going to put tariffs on 300 billion worth of new goods. Then august 13th they dial it back. Then on august 20th he says hes going to lower taxes because he is concerned about whats happening, which would add of course even more to our debt and then the next day he dials that back. China is watching and i think when you look at trade negotiations with the world, and i saw this in my role as the democratic chair in the senate of the joint economic committee, youve got to keep your promises and youve got to keep your threats. He has done neither. So i think thats the first thing, that negotiating by tweet hasnt been working. We are at an alltime trade deficit at 891 billion. Back to the negotiating chris limit pushback on this. Senator klobuchar sure. Chris the fact is the u. S. Economy, and there are some troubles, but it still by historical standards pretty strong as we were discussing with the panel, historically low levels of unemployment. Gdp growth not quite the 3 the president promised, but still okay. Have at the president s policies im turning up from trade to economic policy, havent the president s policies of tax cuts and especially deregulation been effective . Senator klobuchar i dont think so, chris, because i look back to the downturn and how we got out of that. That was our workers thats been affected. They worked really hard, and our businesses that got us out of that downturn and got us to a better place right now of some stability. But what a great leader does, theres this old ojibwe think that you make decisions not just for this generation, but for seven generations from now. In this case we have a president that cant even keep his decisions 7 minutes from now. So what a great leader does is rises to the challenges of our time. We know what they are. Republicans, independents, democrats, i think people know you cant keep escalating this like he has. We just found out that over a trillion dollars we are going to reach in the deficit by 2020. Thats a big problem. Chris i understand part of it was out of a recession, but barack obama added more to the debt than anybody in history. Im not saying that trump isnt, but barack obama and i didnt hear a lot of people squawking about that. Senator klobuchar but chris, look at where we are now. If different situation. We are in a stable time in the economy. We hope we stay there and that is when you work on these challenges, climate change, immigration reform. We know we need workers in our hospitals and our Nursing Homes and our fields and our factories starting Small Businesses. This has been america. Thats what bothers me is when you look at any of these long term problems and goals and things we have to get done, hes not doing them. And i just i was just in iowa. Soybeans mounting up in bins. Youve got pork at its lowest export level ini years. So go back to the negotiating table, let the Federal Reserve be independent. Start pushing on these longterm challenges that i just mentioned as well as infrastructure, longterm care. Youve got doubling of the senior population coming up and they are still relitigating the Affordable Care act instead of dealing with that and alzheimers. I just think we need to start looking to the future in dealing with those challenges. Chris lets talk about the immediate future in politics and lets talk about where you stand in the democratic race right no now. In the latest national polls, your 11th, the real clear politics average with 1. 2 . In iowa you are sixth at 3. 5 and in new hampshire, youre tied for seventh at 2 . Three candidates dropped out of the race this week, you are going to be on the debate stage next month, but whats the threshold for you . At what point does this not make sense . Senator klobuchar this makes perfect sense to me, chris, and that is because ive always known that i wasnt going to jump to the front of this pile right away. Theres 20 some people. I look at it this way. I made the playoffs, all right . And ive done that coming from a position of a state thats a little not as big as some of the other ones and coming from a position where my whole focus from the very beginning when i announced in the middle of that blizzard on an island in the mississippi river, was to bridge the river of our device to get to a higher plane in our politics, and i have won with moderates and i have won in rural and i have won even with a bunch of republicans as well as liberals. And i do that by bringing people together. And day in and day out i have heard from people out there thats what they want right now. They dont want a whiner in the white house. They are tired of hearing the president whining every day when they are struggling to make ends meet. They want a leader. A leader should lead. Chris you talk about being moderate and you are running in the moderate lane. I want to put up some of your positions on various issues. If you support a public option, but not medicare for all. You call the Green New Deal aspirational and you oppose decriminalizing illegal border crossings. Joe biden is also in that lane and hes leaving, beating you in that lane at this point. You say that you are you use this phrase, a candidate for our times, which may be a nice way of dealing with the age issue. Want to ask you something honestly and i dont know that youre going to give me an unguarded answer, although i know that you often in private you do. Honestly, you have concerns, as you see the gas by joe biden mounting up day day, week by week, do you have concerns as to whether or not he is up to taking the fight over the next year and a half to donald trump . Senator klobuchar im focused on my own campaign, ive made that very clear and taking it to donald trump myself. I have strong arguments that i am the candidate to do this. I am from the midwest, as you know, democrats have trouble winning the midwest in 2016, but we can do it. I can leave the ticket because i got an optimistic economic agenda for this country and i know people are looking for Something Else and i can lead because i have a proven track record of bringing in independents and moderate republicans and democrats, and this isnt just about this campaign. I am not running for chair of the Democratic National committee. I am running for president of the United States, and if you want to lead, youve got to run a campaign thats going to show people how youre going to govern and we have had a time like no other with the shootings in dayton and el paso, the divide that the president causes every single day where people are just crying out for a different kind of leadership and thats why these debates coming up and going into the spring im going to have a chance to do that and if you know, you are a veteran water of all of this and commentator, you know we had plenty of president s that have been in Single Digits at this moment that over time the American People got to get to know them and said, you know what, this is my candidate. Thats what i want to be. Chris ive got less than 2 k you about ilhan omar, the congresswoman was a member of the minnesota delegation. Youve called you talked before about the president stoking divisions. You call the president s comments about her racist number principle, but what about omars statements, one of which i want to play, one of which she made just this week, take a look. Would give israel more than 3 million in aid every year. This is predicated on there being an important ally in the only democracy in the middle east. Chris you couldnt see it because you cant see our feet, but when she said the only democracy, she did it in air quotes. Are you troubled by congresswoman omar questioning whether or not israel is a democracy, and earlier saying explaining american politicians support for israel as its all about the benjamins, baby . They prepared to talk about the president and his divisiveness. Are you prepared to call out congresswoman omar . Senator klobuchar i have. I dont agree with her on her positions on israel and i certainly dont agree with antisemitic comments. All of that being said, and i have been very clear about that, i thought this decision by the president to say that elected members of congress who were elected, shouldnt go to visit israel, that they shouldnt be allowed in that country, which is our ally and, yes, a beacon of democracy in a really tough neighborhood in the mideast, i think that was wrong and i was pleased to see that aipac and j street and other leading jewish groups came out and said the same thing, because when people go to israel, they see, despite my disagreement with some of the policies of the Prime Minister there, they see a democracy. And i think that is one of the worst things, a strong democracy allows people in their doors, they dont shut them out. Chris senator we are going to have to leave it there. Thank you so much, thanks for your time. Senator klobuchar great to be on, chris. Chris please come back and safe travels on the campaign trail, senator. Senator klobuchar thank you. Chris when we come back, joe bidens Campaign Says democrats need to focus on one thing, beating donald trump. We will ask our sunday panel whether the front runner can make that case to voters. Next. T your father. Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin Kevin trusted advice for life. Kevin, hows your mom . Life well planned. See what a Raymond James Financial Advisor can do for you. May be have to swallow a little bit to say okay i personally like soandso better, but your bottom line has to be that we have to beat trump. Cant we have bigger aspirations than that . Beating donald trump as the floor, its not the ceiling. Chris joe bidens wife jill making the case electability is the top issue for democrats in 2020 while rival senator cory booker tries to poke holes in that argument and we are back now with the panel. Karl, you helped george w. Bush win two president ial elections. Do you think this message of you may like some feels better, but swallow hard and hes the guy guy that can be donald trump, is that the kind of message that you can win a Party Nomination and the election . No, you can, but thats not the only argument thats being made here. Lets step back a little bit because of president ial primary is a collection of individuals and biden is making two arguments. One explicitly and one implicitly. The explicit one is on the most electable guy and thats not sustainable. But his opponents are helping him make the argument that hes the only guy whos a traditional reasonable democrat. We have Elizabeth Warren out there and Bernie Sanders Kamala Harris and maybe pete buttigieg. Those were the only people that really have a chance of this nomination, with all due respect to senator klobuchar. Chris are going to say she just wasted a few minutes. These are vanity candidates. What julie and i were talking about, was there somebody at Single Digits and actually won the nomination, i think maybe james capel was maybe chris i was running out of time but i was going to say i dont think anybody has been this low this late. There are two arguments the den campaign is making. One is im electable, but the other one is hes had a lot of help. This week Bernie Sanders came out with a 16 trillion alternative to the Green New Deal and they are all endorsing weird stuff and putting themselves in knots. Chris the biden gaffes however are starting to pile up. It was the former Vice President just i think it was on friday, talk about how the assassinations of Martin Luther king and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 affected him when he was still in college. Imagine what wouldve happened if god forbid barack obama had been assassinated after becoming the de facto nominee. What wouldve happened in america. Chris i know, emily, the president likes to say he lost it and you could argue thats political rhetoric, but these statements, misstatements, curious statements, they are piling up. They are. And i think its what is quickly becoming the starter nominee for a lot of voters, essentially who they support while they are waiting for someone to really inspire them and i think kind of to your point, karl, the electable the argument is fast becoming stale. Voters, especially democrats, need to be inspired and we see when they vote with her head that they essentially become catastrophic, right . Weve seen that with gore and dukakis and kerry. And here is i think this campaign falters, there were others clearly waiting in the wings that can inspire and i think that the head of the monmouth polling institute, which just released a poll which still proves that hes leading in the polls in iowa, said i have not yet met one biden voter who in any way, shape, or form is excited about voting for him. Chris an end there was President Trumps controversial comment this week which he made one day and the double down the next day, take a look. In my opinion, you vote for a democrat, youre being very disloyal to jewish people and are being very disloyal to israel. And only weak people would say anything other than that. Chris some top jewish groups were very upset by that and pushed back saying look, American Jews who voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton in 2016 vote on a lot of issues, they dont just vote on whos the best candidate for israel. Any antideformation we just set especially this is kind of an antisemitic trope that you are using here, mr. President , and people like chuck schumer, the democratic leader in the senate, said at a time of rising hate crimes against jew are less globally but also here in the usa, that he was in essence encouraging kind of White Nationalist anger at jewish people. At this trope is been used for a long time to isolate jews is the other people were really selfinterested or interested in israel more so than they are interested in being american patriots. But i think that in some ways it helps the president with the evangelical base that sees him as having moved the cap, went to tel aviv jerusalem, excuse me. And also in terms of the settlements. They see him as having taken steps that strengthen their love for israel. Im not so sure it works with American Jews though. Chris karl talked in the first segment when we would talk about with the president needs to get reelected in one of the things he talked about his republican suburbs, collegeeducated women and republican suburbs. When the president seems to stoke these divisions, whether talking about the squad for about jews being disloyal for baltimore congressman elijah cummings, how does that play in the republican suburbs among collegeeducated women . I think there are some differences in some of the things hes sayinghe i would also throw in some policy issues when youre talking about suburban voters, particularly suburban women so when you talk about the squad , the stratey from the Trump Campaign is very clear here, they want to paint the entire Democratic Party a socialist, as outside the mainstream of what we think about democrats and thats in part because they want some of these republicans, independents in the suburbs who maybe dont like donald trump very much to say all right, i dont like him, but im not very comfortable with is either so i guess ill stick with what i know. But then underneath all of this, there are some policy issues that are really starting to worry republicans when it comes to suburban voters on top of the list right now is guns. I talked to a lot of republicans after the shootings say we have to be careful to not look as though we are doing nothing, because particularly with mothers and some of these suburban districts, they want to see some type of action. There are a lot of different sources that play when it comes to these group of voters. Chris the president to immediately after el paso said i dont believe the slippery slope stuff, we can do something, the nra saying you do one thing, it leads to Something Else was actually espousing the slippery slope this week. Exactly. When it comes to this president , the most Important Group for him is his face. He is constantly fearful of losing that group of voters and thats the tension for him in his reelection. Is he going to play more to the base and risk losing those suburban voters are what is base stay with him if he actually moved in the direction of bringing that chris the base is essential but its not enough to get him reelected. Thank you, panel, see you next week. Up next, our power player of the week. A biographer who has captured the essence of power, how to get it and how to use it in his awardwinning books onll lbj. Ogp you with turning ideas into action. Putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. So, in case youre looking, weve put all the ways we can help in one place. Free training, tools, and Small Business resources are now available at google. Com grow chris is one of americas greatest biographers, the winner of two pulitzer prizes, but this spring he took a break from his lifes work to write about how he does that work. As we told you in may, his loyal followers freaked out. Heres our power player of the week. You must know that this is giving a lot of people heartburn. Yes. If you want to know the truth, its heartwarming that so many people are worried that i wont finish. Chris robert has spent more than half his life telling the story of Lyndon Johnson. Four books, some 3400 pages. But hes only up to 1964, not you have to vietnam, which is why when he took a detour to write working, it caused, well, heartburn. I want people to have some idea of what it is i do, how it is to research this type of boo book. Chris fans may not be happy he took time from finishing the story of lbj, but it is fascinating to learn how he goes about his masterwork. He says he learned about research and his editor at newsday back in the 60s. This guy looks up at me and he says just remember, turn every page. Never assume anything. Turn every page. Chris its advice hes followed researching Lyndon Johnson. You walk into the lbj president ial library and when you look up at the documents section, what do you see . You see at that. 32 million documents. They had 40,000 boxes. Each of these boxes holds about 800 pages. Thats the only time i felt like turning around and going home. Chris he says he has one big role when interviewing. Your notebooks are filled with the notation s you. What does that mean . Shut up. People have a desire, a need to fill in silences. If you could just make yourself shut up, oftentimes theyll tell you what you want to know. Chris then theres writing. He remembers what a professor at princeton told him. Youre never going to achieve what you want to achieve in less you stop thinking with your fingers. I knew exactly what he meant. It was so easy for me to write that i didnt think things through. Chris which brings us back to his final book on lbj, which is about a third written. He took us into his office. This is the outline of the rest of my last. From here to there to the end of the book over there. Chris he writes several drafts in longhand, again, to slow himself down. After ive done a number of drafts i go to the typewriter and i do a lot of drafts on the typewriter. Then it goes into this box and the box goes to my typist. Chris when i talked with him after his last lbj book, he said it would take three or four years to finish the final volume. That was seven years ago and hes now 83. Are you really going to vietnam . Yes. Chris why . I feel it unless i see it and really understand it, i cant make the reader see if there is chris if you should be unable for whatever reason to finish the book, have you made provisions for somebody else . Ive made provisions that nobody else can finish my book. Nobody is going to publish anything with my name on it that i didnt write. Not a word. Chris but he is determined to finish the story of Lyndon Johnson down to the last word. On his smith corona electric 210. How many typewriters do you have . I have at this moment 11. Chris and will that get you through the end . Im worried. Chris he tries to take care of everything he uses oldfashioned carbon paper to make copies of what he types and a few years ago he bought what he says is a lifetime supply just in case they stop making it. And thats it for today, have a great week and we will see you next Fox News Sunday. announcer who can you always rely on to be there when you need immediate help . Any time of the day or night, even when youre hundreds of miles away from home, always giving you and your family peace of mind with people, benefits, and services always there for you to make your life a little easier . A company you know is always with you. Aaa, a Company Built by and for members. sentimental music hi there, im jeff thisted. Chances are you know about aaas legendary roadside service, but you might be surprised at what you dont know about aaa. So come along and discover how aaa not only gives you peace of mind, but helps you enjoy lifes little pleasures