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Nbc news because of the rockets nature of the first debate between these 2 candidates, the microphones will be muted at certain times during the debate there are 6 topics for discussion tonight. Fighting covid19 American Families race in america Climate Change National Security and leadership also because of concerns over the coronavirus and because President Trump had a recent diagnosis for the illness there were plans for plexiglass partitions between the game than this however weve got minutes ago that were that those plans were dropped there will not be plexiglass however both candidates did have to test negative for the virus and today they did also because of covid only about 200 people will be allowed inside that auditorium there were. The debate is being held at Belmont University in nashville representative with the commission on president ial debates. Well use the mute button backstage to ensure that each candidate has 2 minutes on interrupted to deliver opening answers to the 6 major topics the Trump Campaign has complains that the policy was that Foreign Policy was not included as a debate topic tonight we also want you to know the kron 4 will have complete debate wrapup and analysis tonight with Catherine Heenan thats going to begin at 7. 30 see of course is the host of inside bay area politics and we will have continuing coverage all evening on our evening. Newscasts so we are expecting the debate to begin momentarily. We are waiting for the arrival of President Trump and former Vice President joe biden take their positions at the podiums it will be interesting pam to see if they come in wearing mask, we expect biden will come in wearing a mask, dont know if the president well do the same especially since hes effectively still recuperating from positive diagnosis with this is happening at a very crucial time for both of both of these candidates, the election is less than 2 weeks away in fact just 12 days to go and it really is high stakes for both sides tonight. All bay area counties by the way are reporting record Voter Registration were seeing that happen across the country millions of people have already voted so for them. This debate probably is meaningless theyve made up their minds safe cast their ballots and that is in but there are still a number of people out there who have not voted and it will be interesting to see how for many of them those few that have not made up their minds might be swayed one way or the other they are expecting millions of people to watch tonight even though mines have been largely made up across the nation of this debate is occurring as the fbi indicated just yesterday. All ball and now heres the moderator, lets look good evening from Belmont University in nashville, tennessee. Im Kristen Welker of nbc news and i welcome you to the final 2020 president ial debate between president Donald J Trump and former Vice President joe biden tonights debate is sponsored by the commission on president ial debates. It is conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the commissions Health Security adviser, the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. No cheers foods or other interruptions except right now as we welcome to the stage former Vice President joe biden and president Donald J Trump. And i do want to say a very good evening to both of you this debate will cover 6 major topics at the beginning of each section each candidate will have 2 minutes uninterrupted to answer my first question the Debate Commission will then turn on their microphone only when it is their turn to answer and the commission will turn it off exactly when the 2 minutes of expire after that both microphones will remain on. But on behalf of the voters im going to ask you to please speak one at a time. The goal is for you to hear each other and for the American People to hear every word of what you both have to say and so with that if youre ready. Lets start. We will begin with the fight against the coronavirus President Trump, the first question is for you. The country is heading into a dangerous new phase more than 40,000 americans are in the hospital tonight with covid including record numbers here in tennessee and since the 2 of you last shared a stage 16,000 americans have died from covid so please be specific how would you leave the country during this next stage of the Coronavirus Crisis 2 minutes uninterrupted so as you know 2. 2 Million People. Modeled out were expected today. We closed up the greatest economy in the world in order to fight this horrible disease that came from china. Its a worldwide pandemic so all over the world you see the spikes in europe and many other places right now. If you notice the mortality rate is down 85 . The excess mortality rate is way down and much lower than almost any of the country and were fighting it were finding it hard there is a spike there was a spike in florida and its no gun. There was a very big spike in texas. Its now gone. There was a very big spike in arizona. Its now gun. And there is some spikes in searches and other places they will soon be gun. We have a vaccine. Thats coming its ready. Its going to be announced within weeks and its going to be delivered we have operation warp speed which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine. I can tell you from personal experience i was in the hospital i had it. And i got better and i will tell you had something that they gave me a therapeutic i guess they would call it some people who say was a cure. I was in for a short period of time and i got better very fast or we wouldnt be here tonight. And now they say im immune whether its 4 months or a lifetime, nobodys been able to say that but im in more and more people are Getting Better we a problem thats a worldwide problem, this is a worldwide problem, but ive been congratulated by the heads of many countries on what weve been able to do with the if you if you take a look at what weve done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and Everything Else and in particular ventilators all over the world thousands and thousands a month, distributing them all over the world. It will go away and as i say were rounding the turn were rounding the corner its going away, okay, former Vice President biden to you how would you leave the country out of this crisis. You have 2 minutes uninterrupted. 220,000 americans dead. Here nothing else. I say tonight. To this. Anyone who is responsible for not taking control. In fact not saying im i take no responsibility initially. Anyone whos response for that many deaths should not remain as president United States of america. Were in a situation where there are 1000 deaths a day now 1000 s today and there are over 70,000 new cases per day. Compared to whats going on in europe as the new england medical journal said theyre starting from a very low rate. Were starting from a very high rate. The expectation is well have another 200,000 americans dead. The time between now and the end of the year. For just wore these masks the president s own advisers told him you can save a 100 1000 lives. And were in a circumstance for the president thus far it still has no plan. No comprehensive plan what i would do is make sure we have everyone encouraged to wear a mask all the time i would make sure we move in the direction of Rapid Testing invested Rapid Testing i would make sure that we set up National Standards as to how to open up schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the where with all the Financial Resources to be able to do that were in a situation now where the new england medical journal one of the serious most serious journals and the and the whole world said for the First Time Ever that this the way this president has respond to this crisis has been absolutely tragic and so folks. I will take care of this i will end this i will make sure we have a plan. President trump id like to follow up with you and your comments you talked about taking a therapeutic i assume youre referencing regeneron you also said a vaccine will be coming within weeks this is that it guarantee its not a guarantee, but it will be by the end of the year, but i think it has a good chance or 2 companies i think within a matter of weeks and it will be distributed very quickly tell us which johnson and johnson is doing very well mode earners doing very well pfizer is doing very well and we have numerous others. Then we also have others that were working on very closely with other countries in particular europe. Let me follow up with you because this is new information you have said a vaccine is coming soon within weeks now your own Officials Say it could take well into 2021 at the earliest for enough americans to get vaccinated and even then they say the country will be Wearing Masks and distancing in 2 2022 is your timeline realistic do i think my timeline is going to be more accurate. I dont know that there. Counting on the military the way i do, but we have our generals lined up one in particular thats the head of logistics and this is a very easy distribution for him is ready to go soon as we have the vaccine. And we expect to have a 100 million viles as soon as we have the vaccine, hes ready to go Vice President biden your reaction in just 40 of americans say they would definitely agree to take a Coronavirus Vaccine if it was approved by the government what steps would you take to give americans confidence in a vaccine if it were proved make sure she totally transparent. Have the science world see it know it look at it go through all the processes and by the way. He this is the same fellow told you this going to end by easter last time this the same fellow who told you that dont worry were going to end this by the summer were about to go into a dark winter. A dark winter. And he has no clear plan and theres no prospect that theres going to be a vaccine available for the majority the American People before the middle of next year. President trump, your reaction no plan to have a dark winter and at all were opening up our country weve learned and studied and understand the disease which we didnt at the beginning when i closed and bands china from coming in heavily infected and then ultimately europe but china was in january months later he was saying i was in a phobic i did it too soon now we i should have i should have you know move quicker. But he didnt move quicker. He was months behind me many months behind me and frankly here and the h one n one swine flu. And it was a total disaster far less lethal. But it was a total disaster had that had this kind of numbers. 700,000 people would be dead right now. But is a far less lethal disease. Look his own person who ran that for him who as you know was chief of staff said it was catastrophic. It was horrible. We didnt know what we were doing. Now he comes up and tells us how to do this. Also everything that he said about the way every single move that he said we should make. Thats what weve done weve done all of it. But he was way behind us Vice President biden response for sponsors. He isnt a phobic but not because he shut down access from china and he did it late after 40 countries have already done that. In addition to that what he did he make sure that we had 44 people that were in there. In china trying to get to wuhan to determine what exactly the source was what did the president say in january. He said no we should this is it hes being transparent. The president of chinas be transparent. We owe him a debt of gratitude we we have to thank him and and then what happened was we started talking about using that the defense act to make sure we go out and get whatever is needed out there to protect people and again i go back to this he had nothing he did virtually nothing and then he gets out of the hospital and he talks about were this dont worry its all the meals are shown. Theres not another serious scientists in world thinks is going to be over soon President Trump your over soon, i say were learning to live with that we have no choice we cant lock ourselves up in a basement like you know does he is we has the ability to lock himself up i dont know hes obviously made a lot of money someplace. But he has this thing about living in a basement people can do that by the way i as the president couldnt do that id love to put myself in the basement or in a beautiful room in the white house and go away for a year and a half until it disappears i cant do that and kiss and every to every meeting i had every meeting ahead and admit a lot of families including gold star families and military families. Every meeting i had and i had to meet him i had to it would be horrible to have canceled everything. I said you know, this is dangerous and you catch it and you know i could i learned a lot i learned a lot great doctors great hospitals. And now i recovered. 99. 9 of young people recover 99 of people recover. We have to recover we cant close up our nation. We have to open our school and we cant close up our nation or youre not going to have a nation. And of course the cdc has said young people can get sick with covid19 and can pass it. Vice President Biden want to talk broadly about strategy though you respond to that 30 seconds please and i have a number one. He says that were you know were learning to live with people are learning to die with it. You folks home will have an empty chair at the Kitchen Table this morning that manner wife going to bed tonight a region over to try to touch her out of habit where their wife or husband was is gone, learning to live with it were dying with it because hes never said hes he said its dangerous was the last time is a really dangerous still we dangerous to tell the people as dangerous now what should they do about the danger. And you say i take no responsibility. Let me talk about your choosing and to carry it takes full responsibility. Its not my fault that he came here, its chinas fault, and you know what its not joes fault that he came here is that its chinas fault, they kept it from going into the rest of china for the most part but they didnt keep it from coming out to the world, including europe and ourselves. Vice President Biden the fact is that when we knew was coming when it hit. What happened with the president say he said dont worry its going to go away begun by easter dont worry you can warm weather dont worry maybe inject bleach. He said he was kidding when he said that a lot of people thought it was serious a whole range of things the president has said even today he thinks we are in control were about to lose 200,000 more people. President trump look perhaps just to finish this. I was kidding and that but just to finish this. One eye closed. He said i shouldnt have closed. And that went on for months what nancy pelosi said the same thing she was dancing in the streets in chinatown in san francisco. But one eye closed. He said this is a terrible thing is but i think he called me racist even and because i was closing it to china now he says they should have closed it earlier. It just joe it i did say either of those things you certainly get and talked about is be in a different context, it wasnt about. Closing the border to chinese im coming to the United States all right i want to talk about both of your different strategies to hand the thought i shouldnt have closed the border, lets thats obvious. Is that you would respond to that quickly Vice President ok, lets talk about your different strategies for dealing with this mister Vice President you suggested he would support new shutdowns of sci ntists recommended what do you say to americans who are fearful that the cost of shutdowns the impact on the economy. The higher rates of hunger depression, domestic and Substance Abuse outweighs the risk of exposure for the virus when i would say is im going to shut down the virus, not the country. Its his ineptitude the cause the virus across the country to have to shut down in large part. Why businesses got under way schools are closed why so many people have lost or are living and why theyre concerned those other concerns are real thats why he should have been instead of in a sand trap of this golf course he should have been negotiating with nancy pelosi and the rest of the democrats republicans about what to do about the acts their passion for billions of dollars to make sure people had the capacity for you havent ruled out more shutdowns no i im not shutting but there are look. They need standards the standard is if you have a reproduction rate in the community. Thats above a certain level, everybody says slow up. More social disses see do not open bars and do not open gymnasiums do not open to see you get this under control or control. But when you do open give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely for example schools, schools, they need a lot of money to grow up and they need to do a ventilation system they need to do with smaller classes or teachers, more pods and hes refused to support that money or least up to now lets talk about schools. We have to respond police and then i have a song like you and i appreciate that. Look all he does is talk about shutdowns but forget about him his democrat governors cuomo new york. You look at whats going on in california you look at pennsylvania, north carolina. Democrats this shutdown so tight. And then dying dying. And he supports all these people. All he talks shutdowns no were not going to shut down and we have to open our schools and its like as an example have a young son he also tested positive. By the time i spoke to the doctor the second time he was fine it just went away. Young people. I guess its their immune system let me follow up with you President Trump youve demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely. But just yesterday. Boston became the latest city to move its Public School system entirely online after a coronavirus spike what is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school in danger not only their kids but also their teachers and families i want to open the the transmittal rate to the teachers is a very small but i want to open the schools we have to open our country were going to have a country. You cant do this we cant keep this country close because a massive country with a massive economy people are losing their jobs theyre committing suicide, this depression, alcohol drugs at a level that nobodys ever seen before this abuse tremendous abuse. We have to open our country. You know, ive said it often the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. And thats whats happening and he wants to close down hill closed down the country if one person in our in our massive bureaucracy says we should close it down face President Biden youre definitely not true well able to walk and chew gum at the same time. We ought to be able to safely open but would need resources to open. You need to be able to for example if you can open a business have social distance even the business you need to have if you have a restaurant in need to have plexiglass dividers so people can not. In fact one another you need to be in a position where you can take testy rapidly and know whether a person is in fact infected, you need to be able to trace you need to be able to provide all the resources it needed to do this and that is not inconsistent with saying that. Were going to make sure that we open safely in by the way all you teachers out there not that many of you are going to die, so dont worry about it. So dont worry about it, come on. President trump let me follow up with you quickly though i will say this if you go and look at whats happened to new york. Its a ghost and its a ghost and and when you talk about plexiglass these are restaurants to dying businesses with no money. Putting a plexiglas is unbelievably expensive and its not the answer mean youre going to sit there in a cubicle wrapped around with plastic. Its these of businesses that are dying joe you cant do that to people you just cant take a look at new york and whats happened to my wonderful city for for so many years i loved it was vibrant, its dying, everyones leaving new york take a look i was in new york has done in terms of turning the curve down in terms of number of people died. And i dont look at this in terms of he does blue states and red states for all the United States and look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus there the red states the states in the midwest to the states in the upper midwest as for the spike is a courage significantly. But theyre all americans all americans and what we have to do is say where these mask number one make sure we get the help that the businesses need that has money has already been passed to do that its been out there since the beginning of the summer and nothings happened. President new york has lost more than 40,000 people 11,000 people in nursing home resident trump announced a spike. Take a look at whats happening. In pennsylvania. Where theyve had a close take a look at whats happening with your friend in michigan where her husband is the only one allowed to do anything its been like a prison. Now it was just ruled unconstitutional. Take a look at north carolina. Theyre having spikes and theyve been closed and theyre getting killed financially we cant let that happen joe you cant let that happen we have to open up. And we understand the disease we have to protect our seniors. We have to protect our elderly we have to protect especially our seniors with heart problems and diabetes problems and we will protect we have the best testing in the world by far thats why we have so many case let me follow up with you before we move on to our next section President Trump this week you called doctor Anthony Fauci the nations best known Infectious Disease expert quote a disaster. You described him in other medical expert says quote idiots if youre not listening to them who are you listening to live like im listening to all including get along very well with anthony but. He did say dont wear masks. He did say as you know this is not going to be a problem. I think hes a democrat but thats okay he said this is not going to be a problem, were not going to have a problem at all when joe says that i said Anthony Fauci said and others and many others and im not knocking him let nobody know look nobody knew what this thing was nobody knew where it was coming from what it was. Weve learned a lot but anthony should dont wear masks now he wants to wear masks. Anthony also said if you look back exact words used his exact words, this is no prom this is going to go away soon so hes allowed to make mistakes he happens to be a good person Vice President biden your response quickly and then were going to move on to the next section responses that think about what the president knew in january didnt tell the American People. He was told this was a serious fires to spread in the air. And it was much worse and much worse than the flu. He went on record and said to one of your college recorded that in fact he knew how dangerous it was we didnt want to tell us. He didnt want to tell us pga in want us to panic. He didnt want americans dont panic. He panicked, but i guess what in the meantime we find out the New York Times other day that in fact his folks went to wall street and said this is a really dangerous staying a lot of that meeting not from his administration for from some of the brokers said sell short because weve got to get moving. Its a dangerous problem, this you 30 seconds to respond and i dont know somebody went to wall street, youre the one that takes all the money from wall street. I dont take it. You have raised a lot of money, tremendous amounts of money and every time you raise money deals a i could raise so much more money as president and as somebody that those most of those people i could call the heads of wall street, the heads of every company in america. I would blow away every record. But i dont want to do that because it puts me in a bad position and then you bring up wall street, you shouldnt be bringing up wall street because youre the one that takes the money from wall street, not i could blow away your records that like you wouldnt believe we dont need money. We have plenty of money in fact. We beat Hillary Clinton with a tiny fraction of the money that she was a nice gentleman fusion 43 all right were going to move on to our next section which is National Security. And i do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from overnight just last night top intelligence officials confirmed again that both russia and iran are working to influence the selection. Both countries have obtained us Voter Registration information these Officials Say and iran sent intimidating messages to florida. Voters. This question goes to you mister Vice President what would you do to put an end to this threat you have 2 minutes uninterrupted. I made it clear. And i ask everyone else to take the pledge i made it clear that any country no matter who does it interfere american elections will pay a price. They will pay a price. Its been overwhelmingly clear this election will game get into the last one this election that russia has been involved china has been involved to some degree and now we learn that iran is involved. They will pay a price if im elected theyre interfering with american sovereignty. Thats whats going on right now there free with american sovereignty. And the best of my knowledge i dont think the president said anything to putin about it i dont think hes talking to a lot i dont think he said a word i dont know why he hadnt said a word to putin about it and i dont know what he has recently said if anything to the rain is my guess is he probably be more outspoken with regard to the iranians. But the point is this folks were in a situation where we have formed. Company countries trying to interfere in the outcome of our election. His own own National Security adviser told him that what is happening with his buddy. Well gosh, you know i will his body Rudy Giuliani hes being used as a russian pond, hes being fed information that is russian that is not true and then what happens nothing happens and then you find out that everything is going on here about russia is wanting to make sure that i do not get elected the next president states because they know i know them and they know me i dont understand why this president is unwilling to take on food when hes actually paying bounties to kill american soldiers in afghanistan, when hes engaged in activities that are trying to destabilize all of nato. I dont know why he doesnt do it, but its worth asking the question. Why isnt that being done any country interferes the u. S. Will in fact pay a price because theyre affecting our sovereignty. President trump. Same question to you let me uh let me ask what youre going to 2 minutes to respond for 2 elections in a row now there has been substantial interference from foreign adversaries, what would you do in your next term to put an end to this 2 minutes and let me respond to the first part as joe answered joe got 3 and a half Million Dollars from russia. And it came through potent because he was very friendly with the former mayor of moscow, it was the mayor of moscows wife and you got 3 and a half Million Dollars your family got 3 and a half Million Dollars in. You know some day you can have to explain why did you get 3 have i never got any money from russia, i dont get money from russia. Now about your thing last night i knew about that and through john who is John Radcliffe was fantastic deanna he said. The one thing thats common to both of them. They both want you to lose because theres been nobody tougher to russia with between the sanctions nobody tougher than me on russia between the sanctions. Between all of what ive done with nate are you not got the nato countries to put up an extra 130 billion going to 420 billion dollars a year. Thats to guard against russia. I sold well he was selling pillows and sheets. I sold tank busters to ukraine there is been nobody tougher. That one russia, then donald trump. Ill tell you they were so bad they took over the the submarine port you remember that very well during your term during you and barack obama they took over a big part of what should have been ukraine you handed it to him. But getting a lot of money from russia, they were paying you a lot of money and they probably still are but now with what came out today, its even worse. All of the emails the emails a horrible emails of the kind of money that you are raking in you and your family and show you a Vice President when some of this was happening. And it should have never happened and i think you owe an explanation to the American People. Why is it Somebody Just had a News Conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family. But what he said was damning and. Regardless of me i think you have to clean it up and talk to the American People maybe can do it right now. Vice President Biden you may respond to station and then i kind of follow up on the Election Security i have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life. We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in china has a secret bank account with china does business in china and in fact is talking about me taking money ive not taken a single penny from any country what so ever ever number one number 2. This is a president i have released all of my tax returns 22 years go look at them. 22 years my tax return, you have not released a single solitary year of your tax return. What are you hiding. Why are you unwilling to Foreign Countries are paying you a lot. Russias pain you a lot chinas pay life and your hotels and all your businesses all around the country. All around the world in china is building a new road to a new got golf course you have overseas so whats going on here what it really should tax return or stop talking about corruption. President trump, your response or so. I called my cans under audit, im going to release them as soon as we can i want to do it and you show how successful have great this. Company is but much more important than that people were saying 750. I asked them a week ago, i said what are they pay. They said sir you prepaid 10s of millions of dollars prepaid my tax tense over the last number of years. 10s of millions of dollars i prepaid because at some point they think its an estimate they think i may have to pay tax so i already prepaid nobody told me that future cow but i know that she loved me and it was an unwritten whenever they write this if they keep talking about 750 which i think is a filing fee. But let me just tell you i prepaid millions and millions of dollars in taxes. Number one number 2, i dont make money from china you do i dont make money from ukraine you do i dont make money from russia. He made 3 and a half Million Dollars joe. And you son gave you they even have a statement that we have to give 10 to the big man you the big man i think i dont know maybe not but youre the big man i think his sense of we have to give 10 of the big man. Joe whats it all about its terrible heart gentlemen, i want to ask you both some im going to let you both respond very quickly, you just said you spoke to your account a potentially release your taxes did he tell you when you can really sum do is show that is deadline for when youre going leave i get worse than the Tea Party Got cheated. A lot of people in there for deep down in the irs they treat me horribly we made a deal was all settled until i decide to run for president. I get treated very badly by the irs very unfairly. We had a deal done as soon as we are completed with the deal i want to release it. But i have paid millions and millions of dollars and i its worse than pay. I paid in school pre paying your taxes i paid it i want to ask you both about questions regarding your potential foreign entanglements and questions that have been raised to give you both a chance to talk about this more broadly respond very quickly and then well get to my question why did hes been saying this for 4 years. Show us. Just show us stop playing around. Youve been saying for 4 years you can really shoot action. Nobody knows mister president they do know as youre not paying your taxes or youre paying taxes that are so low when last time he said what he paid he said i only pay that little because im smart i know how to game the system. Come on folks President Trump and then i want to get to 2 questions to both of these years i was put through a phony witch hunt. For 3 years. It started before even got elected. They spied my campaign. No president should ever have to go through what i went through let me just say this mueller and 18 angry democrats and fbi agents all over the place spent 48 Million Dollars. They went through everything i had including my tax returns and they found absolutely no collusion and nothing wrong. 48 million. I guarantee of i spend 1 million a new jail i could find plenty wrong because i kind of things that youve done and the kind of monies that your family is taken. I mean you brother made money in around the millions of dollars your other brother brother made a fortune and its cool 3 and they say you get some of it and you do live very well, you have houses all over the place you very well all right gentlemen, let me just ask some questions about all of this broadly Vice President biden there have been questions about the work your son has done in china and. For Ukrainian Energy company when youre Vice President in retrospect was anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical. Nothing was unethical. Heres what the deal. With regard to ukraine. We had this whole question about whether or not because he was on the board i later learned of a a company that somehow i dont something wrong. Yet every single solitary person when he was going through his impeachment testifying under oath to work for him said i did my job effectively. I carried out us policy not one single solitary thing was out of line not a single thing. Number one number 2. The guy who got in trouble in ukraine was this guy trying to bribe. The Ukrainian Government to Say Something negative about me which they would not do in did not do because it never ever ever happened. My son has not made money in terms of this thing about already talking about china. I have not had the only guy made money from china is this guy hes the only one nobody else has made money from china. President did not do my question to you i could i just want one thing very concerned didnt have a job for a long time was sadly no longer in the military service i wont get into that. And he didnt have a job as soon as he became Vice President. The and that did this look but not the best reputation in the world. I hear they paid him a 183,000. A month listen to this 183 and they gave him a 3 Million Dollars upfront pay my right and he had no job to let the Vice President question to you basis that everybody investigated that no one said anything did was wrong and ukraine ok President Trump this is for you since you took office. Hes never divested from your business you personally promoted your properties abroad. A report this week which was reference does indicate that your company has a bank account in china. So how can voters know that you dont have any foreign conflicts of interest i have many Bank Accounts and theyre all listed and the role of the place i mean i was a businessman doing business. The bank again youre referring to which is Everybody Knows about it. Its listed. The bank account was in. 2013, thats what it was it was open to do it was closed in 2015, i believe. And then i decided because i was going to do i was thinking about doing a deal in china like millions of other people. I was thinking about it and i decided im not going to do it didnt like it, i just said not to do it had an account open and i close it okay excuse me and then unlike him where his Vice President and he does business. I then decided to run for president after that that was before so i closed it before i even ran for president. Let alone became president. Big difference. He is the Vice President of the United States and his son his brother and his other brother are getting rich, they like a vacuum cleaner this we do not touch or not i do want to ask Vice President biden about china, lets talk about china more broadly. There have of course President Trump has said that they should pay for not being fully transparent in regards to the coronavirus if you were president would you make china pay and please be specific what would that look like when i make china do is play by the international rules. Not like hes done. He has caused the deficit china to go up not down. With china up not down. Were making sure that in order to do business in china, you have to give. All your intellectual property you have to get of have a partner in china is 51 . We would not do that at all number one number 2 were in a situation where china would have to play by the ruler internationally as well when i met was she that when i was still Vice President he sever said the apparent benefit haitian zones in the and the South China Sea you can fly through them. I said were going to fly through that we just flew b 52, b b one bombers through it were not going to Pay Attention they have to play by the rules and what she do. He embraces guys like the thugs like in north korea and and the chinese president and putin and others and he poked his finger the eye of all of our friends all of our allies. We make up only were 25 . 25 of the worlds economy. We need to be having the rest of our friends with a saint to china. These are the rules you play by the more youre going to pay the price for not paid by them economically thats the way i will run it and thats what we did and uphold the steel tariffs on a range of other we were president Vice President all right lets talk about north korea let let me know i have to respond to this ok. Very have dollars from china dodge every minute 10 minutes in office and being an air force 2 number one number 2 theres a very email. Talking about your family wanted to make 10 Million Dollars a year for introductions President Trump on china policy though what nobody really are you going to do what specifically are you going to do to make china pay you send your resume that john is banged paying billions and billions of dollars i just gave 20 haitian sessions i just gave 28 billion dollars to farmers. Taxpayers money, you know you know the taxpayers school china. China beige 28 billion and you know they did to page 2. They devalue their currency and they also paid up and you know got the money or farmers are great farmers because they were targeted. You never judge them anything also i charge them 25 on dumped steel because they were killing our steel and just we were not going to steal in decay and now we have a steel cage Vice President biden your Response Response is look this isnt about really is a reason why hes but the ability all this more key. Theres a reason for he didnt want to talk about the the so the substantive issues its not about his family and my family. Its about your family and your family is hurting badly if youre making less than if youre middle class family youre getting hurt badly right now, youre sitting at the Kitchen Table this morning decide you but we cant get new tires, the ball because we have to wait another month or so are we going to able to pay the mortgage or whos going to tell her she cant go back to to Community College there. The decisions youre making the middle class families like i grew up in scranton claimant theyre in trouble. We should be talking about your families but thats the last thing he wanted to talk about. I want to say i want to talk about north korea they check you want to turn to use 10 seconds mister technical political statement, lets get off this china thing and that he looks the family around the table everything just typical politician when i see thats talk okay thats what got elected that lets stop get off the subject of china, lets talk around sitting around the table right come on joe you can do that were going to talk about north korea now President Trump met with north Korean Leader kim jongun 3 times youve talked about your beautiful letters with him hes touted the fact that there hasnt been a war. Or longrange missile test and yet north korea recently rolled out its biggest ever Intercontinental Ballistic Missile and continues to develop its nuclear arsenal, do you see that as a betrayal of the relationship not for just 30 seconds here because we need to get on to the when i met with barack obama we said in the way it has spread at the beginning had a great conversation is supposed to be 15 minutes and it was well over an hour. He said the biggest problem we have with north is north korea. He indicated we will be in a war with north korea. Guess what it would be a nuclear war any does have plenty of nuclear capability. In the meantime i have a very Good Relationship with them different kind of a guy but he probably thinks the same thing about me. We have a different kind of relationship. We have a very Good Relationship. And theres no war and you know about 2 months ago, he broke into a certain area they said oh theres going to be trouble is that no theyre not because hes not going to do that and i was right look instead of being in a war when millions of people so you know is 25 miles away. Millions and millions 32 Million People and sell millions of people would be ok right now president we Vice President biden to you north korea conducted 4 Nuclear Tests under the Obama Administration why do you say you would be able to rein in this persistent threat because i make it clear which we make it clear to china they had to be part of the deal because heres the route. I made it clear as a spokesperson ministration i went to china. Said why are you moving your Missile Defense up so close why are you moving more forces here why you continue to do. A military maneuvers with south korea i should because north korea is a problem and were going to continue to do it so we can control them were going to make sure we can control them and make sure they can not heard us. And so if you want to do something about it step up and help if not its going to continue what has he done hes legitimize north korea. Hes talked about his good buddy whos a thug a thug and he talks about how are better off and they are have much more capable missiles able to reach us territory much more easily than ever to be let me follow up with you Vice President biden who said you wouldnt meet with kim jongun without preconditions are there any conditions under which you would meet with him on the condition that he would agree that he would be better to join down is. Nuclear capacity to get that the Korean Peninsula be nuclear free zone. All right, lets move on to American Family and say seconds for they tried to meet with him he wouldnt do it. He didnt like. Obama he didnt like him he wouldnt do dries van to that you would we do it, you know, hey you know what north korea will not know or we have a Good Relationship, you know people anderson having a Good Relationship with leaders of country and lot of cutting of a lot of questions to get and we had a Good Relationship with hitler before he in fact invade europe the rest of europe hes the reason why he would not meet with president obama is because president obama said were going to talk about denuclearization were not going to legitimize you were going to continue to push stronger and stronger sanctions on you. Thats why he would meet with us. All right good night on lectures on and talk about america and mask President Trump ok a laugh and be a mess. North korea was a mess when in fact if i remember the first all with very much tons tonight there was a very dangerous period of my first 3 months before we sort of work things out a little bit there was a very day they left us a mess and obama would be i think the first say it was the single biggest problem he thought that our country ok lets move on to American Families and the one of the issues thats most important to them is health care as you both know today there was a key vote on a new Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney barrett. And healthcare is at the center of her confirmation fight over 20 million americans get their Health Insurance through the Affordable Care act its headed to the Supreme Court and your administration mister president is advocating for the court to overturn it. If the Supreme Court does overturn that law those 20 million americans could lose their Health Insurance almost overnight so what would you do if those people have their Health Insurance taken away you have 2 minutes on Insurgent Force above already done something that nobody thought was possible. Through the legislature i terminated the individual mandate that is the worst part of obamacare as we call it. The individual mandate we have to pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay for bad Health Insurance. I terminated its gun now its in court because obamacare is no good but then i made a decision run it as well as you can to make people great people run it as well as you can i could have gone the other route and made everybody very unhappy. They ran it. Premiums are down everythings done. Heres the problem. No matter how what you run it its no good. What wed like to do is terminated. We have the individual mandate done. I dont know that its going to work if we dont win we will have to run it and well have obamacare but it will be better run, but it no longer is obamacare because without the individual mandate. Its much different preexisting conditions will always stay what i would like to do is a much Better Health care much better. What always protect people with preexisting so id like to terminate obamacare come up with a brand new Beautiful Health care. The democrats will do it because of the tremendous pressure on them and we might even have the house by that time and i think were going to win the house okayed you see, but i think were going with the house but come up with a Better Health care always protecting people with preexisting conditions and one thing very important. We have a 180 Million People out there that have great private health care far more than were talking about with Obamacare Joe biden is going to terminate all of those policies. These are people that love their health care. People that have been successful middle income people been successful. They have a 180 million plants, a 180 Million People families. Under what he wants to do which will basically be socialized medicine he wont even have a choice. They want to terminate a 180 million plans we have done an incredible job health care. And were going to do even better okay and couldnt find yes this is for you your Health Care Plan calls for building on obamacare so my question is what is your plan. If the laws ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court you have 2 minutes uninterrupted. When i went to do is pass obamacare with a public option. Become biden care the public option is an option that says that if you in fact do not have the wherewithal to be if you qualify for medicaid, and you do not have the wherewithal. The new year state to get medicaid you automatically rolled providing competition for Insurance Companies. Thats whats going to happen secondly were going to make sure we reduce the premiums and reduce drug prices by making sure that theres competition that doesnt exist now by allowing the medicare to negotiate. Drug prices with the Insurance Companies thirdly the idea that i want to eliminate private insurance to reason why i had such a fight 4 with 20 candidates for the nomination was i support private insurance thats why i do not one Single Person private insurers would lose their insurance under my plan nor did day under obamacare they did not lose their insurance unless they chose they wanted to go to Something Else lastly were going to make sure were in a situation that weve actually protect priests you theres no way he can protect preexisting conditions non 0 you cant do it in the ether. Hes been talking about this for a long time. There is no hes never come up with a plan i guess were going to get the preexisting condition plan the same time we get the infrastructure plan that we waited shes 1718 1920. The fact i struggle for a few more minutes and are getting anxious. They have. The fact is that there is already cost the American People because this terrible hanley the covid virus an economic spillover. 10 Million People have lost their private insurance and he wants to take away 22 million more people havent obama care and over a 110 Million People with preexisting conditions and all the people from covid are going to have preexisting conditions what are they going to do i have a followup for you Vice President biden it relates to something that President Trump said hes accusing you of wanting socialized medicine what do you say to people. Who have concerns that your Health Care Plan which includes a Government Insurance option takes the country one step closer to Health Care System run entirely by the government which say its ridiculous like saying that you know. The idea that fact that theres a public option that people can choose. That make sure the socials plan look the difference between the president i think health care is not a privilege, its a right. Everyone should have the right to have Affordable Health care. And im very proud of my plan to scott endorsed by all the major labor unions as well as as well as a whole range of other people who in fact are concerned in the medical field. This is something thats going to save peoples lives and this is going to give some people an opportunity an opportunity to have health care for their children how many new home are worried and rolling around in bed and i wondered what in gods name would do if you get sick because you lost your Home Insurance your your your Health Insurance, your company is coming under. We have to provide Health Insurance for people and affordable rate thats what i do. President he was nearly 4. 47 years he didnt do he was now there is Vice President for 8 years and its not like it was 25 years ago it was 3 in 3 quarters. It was just a little while ago right less than 4 years ago. He didnt do anything he didnt do it. He won socialize medicine is not that he wanted his Vice President , i mean. She is is more liberal than Bernie Sanders and once it even more Bernie Sanders wants it. The democrats won you going to have socialized medicine just like you want to with fracking were not going to have fracking whether to stop tracking were going to fracking then he goes to pennsylvania after he gets the nomination, we got very lucky to get it and he goes to pennsylvania. And it were going to fracking. And you never is the question and by the way so far i respect very much the way you handle this i have to sign the way somebody should ask the question you can and he goes for a year there will number of we have a number of question were going to get same thing with socialize i have resign president your response levi responses people deserve to have Affordable Health care period. Period period period. And the biden care proposal wolf act to provide for that Affordable Health care, lower premiums, what were going to do is going to cost some money. Its going to cost over 750 billion dollars over 10 years to do it and theyre going to have lower premiums. You can buy into the better plans the cheaper plans lower your premiums. Deal with and gone on and on expected the billing and heavier drug prices drop significantly he keeps talking about it. He hasnt done a thing for anybody on health care on a thursday when he actually is and i want to talk talking about socialized medicine and when he and and health care when he talks about the public option. Hes talking about destroying your medicare. Total district and destroying is Social Security and this whole country will come down, you know, Bernie Sanders tried it 30 states he tried to deter stay his governor was a very liberal governor they want to make it work okay, it hes got he thinks hes running against somebody else is running against joe biden i beat all those other people because i disagreed with joe biden is ready to get and the idea that were in a situation that theyre going to destroy medicare. This is the guy that the actuary medicare said if in fact i was at Social Security. If in fact he continues to withhold his plan to withhold the tax on Social Security. So security will be bankrupt in by 2023 with no way to make up for it. This is a guy whos tried to cut medicare. So and i dont i mean the idea that donald trump is lecturing me on Social Security and medicare he tried to years ago years ago go back and look at the records he tried to hurt Social Security years president i move on to the next talk about if im elected. If hes elected the stock market will crash ok very quickly mark. The idea that the stock market is booming, this is only measure whats happening where i come from a scranton claim and the people dont live off of the stock market just to just in the last 3, years during this crisis. Said that the billionaires this country made according to the wall streets 700 billion more dollars 700 billion more dollars because thats his only measured what happens to the ordinary people out there. What happens to them through the roof are through the roof or he doesnt come from scranton thats like one of the he lived there for a short period of time before im going to move on and why people of pennsylvania to my next question damaged as of tonight more than 12 Million People are out of work. And as of tonight 8 million more americans have fallen into poverty and more families are going hungry every day those hit hardest are women and people of color. They see washington fighting over a relief bill mister president why havent you been able to get them the help they need 30 seconds here because nancy pelosi doesnt want to approve it i do youre the president i do, but i still have to get unfortunate thats one of the reasons i think were going to take over the house because of her. Nancy pelosi doesnt want to approve anything because she loved to have some victories. On a date called november 3rd. Nancy pelosi does not want to approve it we are ready willing and able to do something dont forget weve already approved 3 plans and its gone through including the democrats in all fairness. This one she doesnt want us near the election because she thinks it helps or politically i think it hurt her politically all right mister Vice President the republican leader in iraq and the United States senate said he cant pass it. He will not be able to pass it he does not have republican votes. Why talking to his republican friends. Let me follow up with you Vice President made everybody let me ask Vice President by the question you are the leader of the democratic party. Why have you not push the democrats to get a deal for the American People i have and they have 4 should look they passed this act all the way back in the beginning of the summer. This is like its not new. Its been out there. This heros act has been sitting there and look at whats happening when i had was in charge of the recovery act with 800 billion dollars. I was able to get a 145 billion dollars to local communities that have to balance their budgets. The states have to balance a budget so then have to fire fire to have to fire firefighters, Teachers First responders Law Enforcement officers so they can keep their cities and counties ronnie he will not support that they have not done nothing for them and Mitch Mcconnell said let them go bankrupt. Let them go bankrupt. Whats the that was passed in the house was a bailout of badly run high crime. Democrat all run by democrats cities and states it was a way of getting a lot of money billions and billions of dollars to the sketch. It was also way of getting a lot of money from our peoples pockets, too. People to come into our country illegally. We were going to take care of everything for them and what that does and id love to do that id love to help them, but what that does everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country we cant do it. This was a way of taking care of them. This was a way of spending on things that had nothing to do with covid as for your question, but it was really a big bailout for badly run democrats cities and states are gonna i get elected, im not going. Im running as a proud democrat trying to be an american president i dont see red states and blue states. What i see as american United States and folks every single state out there finds himself in trouble, theyre going to start laying off for the red or blue cops firefighters First Responders because teachers because they have to balance their budget and the founders were smart. They allowed the federal government to deficit spend to compensate for the United States of america i want to talk about the minimum wage gentleman mister Vice President. We are talking a lot about struggling Small Businesses ash and Business Owners these days. Do you think this is the right time to ask them to raise the minimum wage of course support a 15 federal minimum i do because i think one of the things were going to have to do is were going to have to bail them out too. We should be bailing them out now those Small Businesses the i want to 6 them going under. Theyre not going to able to make it back. They passed the pri package that allows us to be able to call ppp money supposed to go to help the do everything from organize how they could deal with your business has been open safely. Schools how they can make classroom smaller how they can hire more teachers how they can put ventilation systems in they need the help. The businesses as well as the schools need the help but this guys will not help them is not giving them any of the money were going to move very but i want to show we have School Businesses by raising the minimum wage, its unhealthy. I think it should be a state option. Alabama is different in new york, new york is different from vermont, every state is different it should be a state app you its very important we have to help our Small Business you how are you helping you Small Businesses when youre forcing wages, whats going to happen and whats been proven to happen is when you do that these Small Businesses fire many of their employees and the winner raising the federal minimum wage to how you said recently you would consider raising the federal minimum wage still think and i would consider it and to an extent but really like rationing what i read in a second administration, but not to a level thats going to put all these businesses out of business. It should be a state option look every in different places i know different places theyre all different. Some places 15 is not so bad. In other places other states 15 k bonsai president not. 2 jobs. One job. The below poverty. People are making 6, 7, 8, bucks an hour these First Responders were all clapped for as they come down the street. Because theyve allowed us to make it whats happening. They deserve a minimum wage of 15 anything below that put your below the Poverty Level and there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage businesses go out of business that is simply not true were going to talk about immigration were going to talk about immigration. Now gentleman. And well talk about families within this context. Mister president your administration separated children from their parents at the border, at least 4,000 kids youve since reversed or 0 tolerance policy but the United States cant locate the parents of more than 500 children so how these families ever be reunited. Children are brought here. By coyote ease and lots of bad people cartels and they brought here and they used to use them to get into a country we now have as strong a borders weve ever had were over 400 miles of brand new wall you see the numbers and we let people in but they have to come in legally and they come in through metro only reunited yesterday with their family just say this to pay built cages you know they used to say i built the cages and then they had a picture in a certain newspaper. There was a picture of these horrible cages and they should look at these cages President Trump built them and then it was determined they were built in 2014 that was him do tonight the kids, yes, were working on a very with were trying very hard but a lot of these kids come out without the parents they come over through cartels and through coyotes and through gangs, Vice President by let me bring you into this conversation. Quick response and another question th 500 plus kids came with parents. They separated at the border to make it a disincentive to come to begin with. Bay real tough were really strong and guess what they cannot is not coyotes didnt bring them over their parents were with them, they got separated from their parents. And it makes us a laughing stock and violates every notion of who we are as a nation. Let me ask you first and they did it we change the policy response did sent the cages they who built the cage us talk about the cages talk about were talking about. What happened. Parents worst ripped their kids were ripped from their arms and separated. And now they cannot find over 500 of sets of those parents and those kids are along nowhere to go nowhere to go. Its criminal. Its criminal let me this they porters everything. They are so well taken care of their in facilities that was so clean but just ask one question. Who built the cages id love you to task of that who built the cage let me ask about your immigration policy mister Vice President the Obama Administration did fail to deliver Immigration Reform which had been a key promise during the administration and also presided over record deportations as well as family detentions at the border before changing course. So why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now. Because you made a mistake made to took too long to get it right took too long to get it right, ill be president United States, not Vice President noted states. And the fact is ive made it very clear. Within a 100 days, im going to send United States congress, a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people. And all of those socalled dreamers those docket kids. Theyre going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country and put on a path to citizenship. The idea that they are being sent home by this guy and they want to do that is going to a country theyve never seen before. I can imagine youre 5 years old your parents are taking a cross. Grande river in his as and its illegal. You say oh no modly me here im not going to go it. Theyve been here many remodel says over 20,000 more First Responders out there taking care of people during this crisis. We owe them, we owe them. President ial 8 years to do what he said he was going to do. And ive changed without having a specific. We got rid of catch and release we got rid of a lot of horrible things that they put in and that they lived with but he had 8 years he was Vice President. He did nothing except build cages to keep children in. Vice President Biden response, the catch and release you know hes talking about there. If in fact you had a family came across and theyre arrested. They in fact were given a date to show up for their hearings. They were released and guess what they showed up for hearing. This the first president history United States america, this anybody seeking asylum has to do it another country. Thats never happened before in america. Thats never happened before in america you come to United States and you make your case that i seek asylum based on the following week on the following premise. Why i deserve and an american law. There should be this squalor on the other side of the river. President trump seconds and then we just shows that he has no understanding of immigration of the laws. Catch and release is a disaster. A murder would command a rapist would come in a very bad person would come in. We would take their name we have to release them into our country and then you say they come back less than one percent of the people come back we have to send a tryout and Border Patrol out to find them we would say come back in 2 years 3 years were going to give you a court case you did perry mason were going to give you a court case. When you say they come back they dont come back joe they never come back only the really good. I should hate to say this. But those with the lowest icaew they might come Vice President biden chance to respond and then were going to move on to jim Vice President biden your response know the law telling you simply not true. Fortunately they dont come back check it out. All right what we have terminated it so we have to worry about that is right on to the next 525 kids not know were in gods name theyre going to be lost or pair, good all right. Lets talk about our next section which is race in america and i want to talk about the way black and brown americans experience race in this country. Part of that experience is something called the talk. It happens regardless of class and income parents who feel they have no choice but to prepare their children for the chance that they could be targeted including by the police for no reason other than the color of their skin. Mister Vice President in the next 2 minutes. I want you to speak directly to these families do you understand why these parents fear for their children do i do. You know my daughter is a social worker shes written a lot about this shes in good hands or graduate degree from the reverse of his van is so sure. And you one of the reasons why ended up working on the east side of wilmington delaware, which is 90 african american. Was to learn more about what was going on what i didnt i never had to tell my daughter. If shes pulled over make sure she puts for us traffic stop put both hands on top of the wheel. And dont reach for the glove box because someone may shoot you. But a black parent, no matter how wealthy or how poor they are has to teach their child when youre walking down the street dont have a hoodie on when you go across the street making sure that you in fact if you get pulled over just yes, sir, no sir he is on top of the wheel because you are in fact the victim whether year, a first in making 300,000 child of 300,000 year person or someone whos on on food stamps. The fact of the matter is there is institutional racism america and we have always said weve never lived up to it that we hold these truths to be selfevident all men women are created equal guess what. Have never ever lived up to put it weve all weve constantly been moving the needle further and further to inclusion not exclusion. This is the first president come along and says thats the end of that were not can do that anymore. We have to provide for Economic Opportunity better education, Better Health care better access to schooling better access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses all the things we can do and ive laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things just to give people a shot its about accumulating the ability to have wealth as well as it is to be free from violence. President trump same question to you and let me remind you of the question i would like you to speak directly to these families do you understand why these parents fear for their children. Do and again. Hes been in government 47 years he never did a thing except in 1994. When he did such harm to the black community and they were called and he call them super predators and he said that he said its super predators. And they can never live that down 1994, your crime bill the super predators. Nobody has done more for the black community and donald trump. And if you look with the exception of Abraham Lincoln possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what ive done criminal Justice Reform obama and joe didnt do it. I dont even think they tried because they had no chance of doing it. They might have wanted to do it. But if you had see the arms i had a twist to get that done it was not a pretty picture and Everybody Knows that including some very liberal people that cried in my office they cried in the oval office. 2 weeks later the route saying gee we have to defeat him criminal Justice Reform Prison Reform opportunity zones with tim scott a great senator from south carolina. He came in with this incredible idea for opportunity zones, its one of the most successful programs people dont talk about it, tremendous investment is being made biggest beneficiary, the black and hispanic communities and then historically black colleges and universities. After 3 years of coming to the office, i love some of those guys they were great they came into the office and they said i said what do you do if the 3 said what do you keep coming back because we have no said you have to come back every year. We have to come back because president obama would never give them longterm funding and i did 10 year longterm funding and i gave them more money than they asked for because they said i think you need more. And i said the only bad part about this is i may never see you again because i get very friendly with them and they like me and i like them, but i saved it colleges and universities k and were going to talk about both of your records but your response to that vice chair spawn said is i never ever said. Would you accuse me of st. The fact of the matter is in 2000 now after the crime bill had in in the law for a while. This is a guy who said with the problem of the crime bill is not enough people in jail. Theres not enough people in jail and go on my website get the quote today when he said it not enough people. He talked about marauding gangs young gangs and the people who are going to marauder cities. This is a guy who in the central park 5, 5, innocent black kids he continue to push for making sure that they got the Death Penalty and none them were none of them were guilty of what the crime of the crimes are suggested look and talk about he it granted he did in fact lead 20 people he commuted 20 people sentences. We commute over 1000 people sentences over 1000 the very law hes talking about is a law that in fact initiated by barack obama and secondly were in a situation here where we knew the federal prison system was reduced by 38,000 people under or ministration. And one of the seas we should be doing there should be no. No minimum mandatory in the law thats what im offering 20 billion dollars to states to change their state laws to in a mandatory and set up drug courts. No one should be going to jail because they have a drug problem they should be going to rehabilitation not to jail. We should fundamentally change the system and thats what im going to do that why didnt he do it for years ago. Why did you do that for years ago even less than that why didnt my present you keep talking about all these things youre going to do and youre going to do this. But you were there just a short time ago and you guys did nothing we did joe i iran because of you iran because of barack obama because you did a poor job if i thought you did a good job i would have never run never on iran because if you look at it, you know youre a politician, iran because of you all right, thanks president by your response to that and then i do have some questions for both of you want tell you what i hope he does look me because whats happening years. You know who i am you know who he is you know his character you know my character you reputations for honor in telling the truth. Im anxious to have this race, im anxious to see this take place. I am the character of the country is on the ballot. Our characters in the ballot look at this closely let me 1008 police was true about Russia Ukraine china other countries are wreck. If this is true that hes a corrupt politician right so dont give me the stuff about how your this innocent baby, joe fit calling you a corrupt politician i want to say on the issue of race were talking about the shop from now President Trump nobody talking about race right now i do want to stay on the issue of race. President respond to that place is not very clear or 50 former National Intelligence folks. Who said that what this hes accusing me of is a russian plan. They have said that this is has all the care for 5 former heads of the cia, both parties say what hes saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it his and his good friend rudy, jolly you mean the laptop is now another russia, russia, russia hoax you guys its actually what factly what this is all hes going to is rush want to stay on the issue of race, hell hang to be kidding here we go again with the russia. Were going to continue on the issue of race mister president weve described the black lives Matter Movement as a symbol of hate. Youve shared a video of a man chanting white power to millions of your supporters. You said that black professional athletes exercising their First Amendment rights should be fired. What do you say to americans who say that kind of language from the president is contributing to a climate of hate and racial strife way of those in the first time i ever heard of black lives matter. They were chanting. Pigs in a blanket talking about police picks takes talking about our police pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon i said thats a horrible thing and they were marching down the street and that was my glimpse of black lives matter i thought it was a terrible thing as far as my relationships with all people i have great relationships with all people. I am the least racist person in this room, what do you say to americans who are concerned by that rhetoric i dont i dont know what to say i got criminal Justice Reform done and Prison Reform in opportunity zones i took care of black colleges and universities. I dont know what to say they can say anything i mean they can say anything its a very its makes me sad because i am i am the least racist person i cant even see the audience because its so dark but i dont care whos in the audience. Im the least races person in this room. Okay, Vice President biden let me ask you very quickly and then have a followup question for you Abraham Lincoln, heres one of the most racist president weve had in modern history. He pours sure on every single racist fire. Every single one started off his campaign coming down the escalator saying is you rid of those mexican rapists hes ban muslims because theyre muslims he is moved around and made everything worse across the board. He says to them about the poor boys. Last time we are on station, said i told stand down and stand ready come on. This guys a dog whistle about big as a form core. President trump im gonna give you 10 seconds to respond and i have you made a reference to Abraham Lincoln where did that come in, i mean you we did that no no shes said not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what ive done for the black community and im sad say im Abraham Lincoln i said not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what ive done for the black. Community now you have done nothing other than the crime bill which god that 10s of thousands of black men mostly in jam all i look at whats happening with the voting right now let i treated them about very badly they just take a look at whats happening out there, nice president by let me give you a chance to respond within this context, crime bills that you supported in the 80s and 90s contributed to the incarceration of 10s of thousands of young black men. Who had small amounts of drugs in their possession. Their sons their brothers, their fathers their uncles whose families are still to this day, some of them suffering the consequences so speak to those families why should they vote for you one of the things is that in the 80s weve passed 100 all 100 senators voted for it. A bill on drugs and how to deal with drugs it was a mistake. Ive been trying to change a sense in particularly the portion or cocaine. Thats why ive been arguing that in fact we should not send anyone to jail for a pure drug offense. They should be going into treatment across the board. Thats what we should be spending money. Thats why should of drug courts which are never funded. Our republican friends. They should not be going to jail for a drug or an alcohol problem they should be going into treatment. Treatment. Thats what weve been trying to do thats what im going to get done because i made the American People have now seen that in fact was a mistake to pass those laws related drug but they were not in the crime, but why didnt he get it done she its all talk no action with these politicians why didnt he get it done. Thats what im going to do when i become president. You are Vice President along with obama as your president your leader for 8 years why didnt you get it done get 8 years to get it done now youre saying youre going to get it done because. Youre all talk and no action joy got lot we release 30, they got 38,000 prisoners left from you that nothing down 38,000 prisoners were released from federal prison. We have friends there were over 1000 people who were given clemency. We make the fact were the ones to put in the legislation saying we could look at pattern and practice of Police Departments are what doing how theyre conducting themselves. I could go on, but we began the process we began the process we lost an election thats why im running to win back at election and changes terrible questions why didnt you do it in the 8 years a short time ago why didnt you do you just said im gonna do that im going do this. You put 10 august thousands of mostly black young men in prison now youre saying youre going get youre going do that why didnt you get it done yet 8 years with obama. You know i joke because yearold talk. And no action right Vice President were going to move on to the next section. Republican congress. Answer we came up here to talk him into it are right you got to talk him into it were going to move on to our next actually guided with criminal Justice Reform i have talked democrats into common didnt were running out of time so weve got to get on to Climate Change please you both have very different visions on Climate Change President Trump you say that environmental regulations have hurt jobs in the energy sector. Vice President Biden you have said you see addressing Climate Change as an opportunity to create new jobs for each of you how would you both combat Climate Change and support job growth at the same Time Starting with you President Trump. You have 2 minutes uninterrupted. We have the trillion Trees Program we have so many different programs i do love the environment, but what i want is that clean is Crystal Clear water. The cleanest air we have the best lowest number in Carbon Emissions which is a big standard that i notice obama goes with all the time, not joe i havent heard joe use the term because im not sure he knows what it means, but i have heard obama is it and we have the best carbon emission numbers that weve had in 35 years under this administration we are working so well with industry, but we his what we cant do. Look at china how filthy it is look at russia. Look at india its fill think the air is filthy. The paris accord i took us out because we will then have to spend trillions of dollars and we were treated very unfairly when they put us in that they did us a great disservice. Theyre going to take away our businesses. I will not sacrifice. 10s of millions of jobs, thousands and thousands of companies because of the paris accord it was so unfair china doesnt kick in until 2030 russia goes back to a low standard and we kicked in right away it would have been it would have been it would have destroyed our businesses sell. He ready. We have done an incredible job environmentally if the cleanest air the cleanest water and the best carbon emission standards that weve seen in many many years. Vice president will have destroy our industries. Vice President Biden 2 minutes to you and interrupted. Climate change climate warming. The Global Warming is a nexus social threat to humanity. We have a moral obligation to do with it. And were told by all the leading scientists in the world. We dont have much time. Were going to pass the point of no return but the next 8 to 10 years. 4 more years of this man eliminating all the regulations that were put in by asked to clean up the climate to clean up to limit limited emissions. Well put us in a position where were going to be in real trouble. Heres where we have a great opportunity. I was able to get both all the environmental organizations as well as labor, people worried about jobs to support my climate plan because what it does it will create millions of new good paying jobs were going to invest in for example, 500,000 50s actually be 50,000 charging stations on our highways so that we can only electric car market in the future. The meantime china is doing that were going to be in a position where were going to see to it that were going to take 4 million existing billion buildings and 2 million existing homes and retrofit them so they dont leak as much Energy Saving hundreds of millions of barrels of oil in the process in creating significant number of jobs and by the way whole idea of what this is all going to do its going to create millions of jobs and its going to clean the environment our health and our jobs are at stake. Thats whats happening. And what right now by the way wall street firms indicated that my plan my my plan will in fact create 18. 6 million jobs, 7 million more than is wall street and al create 1 trillion dollars more in Economic Growth and his proposal does not on climate just an economy President Trump came out and said very strongly. 6,500 will be taken away from families under his plan that his plan is an economic disaster. If you look at what he wants to do you know the if you look at his player you know develop that she plus 3. They know nothing about the climate. I mean shes got a good lana stuff, but she knows nothing about the climate and theyre all hopping through hopes for a a c plus 3, not. Theyre real plan costs a 100 trillion dollars. If we had the best year in the history of our country for a 100 years we would not even come close to a number like that when he says buildings they want to take buildings. Am because i want to make bigger windows into smaller windows as far as theyre concerned if you had no window it would be a lovely thing. This is the craziest plan that anybody has ever seen and this wasnt done by smart people. This wasnt done by any but frankly i dont even know how to be good they want to spend a 100 trillion dollars thats the real number trying to say was 6. Trillion dollars they want to knock down buildings and build New Buildings with little tiny small windows me and many other things like many of the threat may have the Vice President and were running out of time and we have a lot more so lets hear from the Vice President and i have a number more question dont know where he comes from. I worry comes up with these numbers, 100 trillion dollars. Give me a break. This plan was and this is plans indoors per every major every major environmental groups. Every labor group labor, because they know the future lies the future lies not been able to breathe and they know they are good jobs and getting to stare and by the way the Fastest Growing industry in america. Is is is the electric to the solar energy and wind he thinks when causes cancer when mills. Its the Fastest Growing jobs and they pay good prevailing wages, 4550 bucks an hour. We can grow and we can be cleaner if we go the route after posting. President trump we are all Energy Independent for the first time. We dont need all of these countries that we had to fight war over because we need their energy were Energy Independent i know more about when the new due to extremely expensive kills all the birds is very intermittent its got a lot of problems and they happen to make the windmills in both germany and china and the fumes coming up if youre a believer in carbon emission the fumes coming up to make make these massive wind mills is more than anything that were talking about with natural gas which is very clean one of the think if i miss it all that said i love solar, but so it doesnt quite have again. Its not powerful and yet to to really run our big beautiful factories that we need to compete with the world. So far its all a pipe dream, but you know what well do were going have the greatest economy in the world, but if you want to kill the economy get rid of viewer oil industry you want and what about fracking all right allan now let me allow Vice President i was never said i oppose fracking you said i tape i did the show put it on your web site put it online on the website, the fact of the matter is shows lot line would you allow banning fracking i do rule up any fracking because the answer we need. We need other industries to transition to get to all of the leak. A complete 0 emissions by 2025. What i will do is tracking over time is make sure that we can capture the emissions from fracking capture their emissions from gas. We can do that and we can do that by investing money into an evil is a transition to that i have one more question this time though you may have was against tracking. He said it i will show that you am against fracking until he got the nomination went to pennsylvania then he said, but you know what pennsylvania hell be against it very soon because his party is totally against fracking on federal land i said no fracking for oil on federal let me ask question in this section and then i want to move on to our final section. President trump people of color are much more likely to live near Oil Refineries and chemical plants in texas, their families who worry the plants near them are making them sick. Your administration has rolled back regulations on these kinds of facilities why should these families give you another 4 years in office the families that were talking about are. Employed heavily and theyre making a lot of money more money than theyve ever made. If you look at the kind of numbers that we produce for hispanic or black or asian. Its 9 times greater