Theyre a big story. Were following tonight. President trump has ordered his negotiators to halt talks over a new stimulus package. The stunning move after the 2 sides of struggle for months to try to reach a deal for a Major Economic relief package as millions are still reeling from the pandemic the president tweeted hours ago that he instructed his representatives to stop negotiating until after the election writing quote after i win will pass a major stimulus bill that focuses on hardworking americans and Small Business as a result of President Trumps announcement the stock market took a deep dive, this afternoon joining us now live via zoom financial expert, georgia chatty with Morgan Stanley george thanks for being with us so we know the immediate effect was the drop on the stock market, however, this now may mean that people wont get any more stimulus through the end of this year possibly well into next year your reaction to that. Well believe it or not tim today was normal. The market was down one 0. 4 on the s and p 500. And if you kind of look back since beginning the year weve had a 193 trading days, another stays 91 of those days the stock market was up one percent. Were down one percent thats 47 of the time. And so today was just a normal day but was a normal is that we do need to care package for the economy and to help businesses families and individuals and the president might be his negotiating style terminated conversations and that also affected the market today, but you know when you have a recession and then you have recovery you can have a lot more volatility. If you overlay on that covid19 and the election which is just 30 days away youre going to have volatility so going to have 30 days george of no unemployment checks, no stimulus people cant make rent cant make their mortgage businesses trying to stay afloat is that of waste of 30 days that could be used to try to get these people back on their feet. Well jay powell, the treasury chief. The federal says that we need the package and that just allows economy to recover a lot quicker. Having said that if we dont do for 30 days, its not going to cause the economy to go back into a remote were going to be recovery right now in fact, the 3rd quarter. Results are going to come out and were going to be in the 20 to 30 in terms of the recovery. But in the middle of that people do get hurt we need to bridge to keep people employed. Were creating a lot of jobs that were also creating more unemployment. And as you know california has not been able to process the unemployment claims so you know these recoveries are not smooths they they take time and they can they get hurt and sing a bit thats whats happening right now. Well you mentioned the fed chair, the he said the fed cannot prop up the economy by itself and it is right before. An election and you say thats a normal unstable time anyway, this is a more severe in terms of a Ripple Effect mention the jobless numbers, what else is involved in the Ripple Effect from Something Like this. Well i i absolutely agree with you theres a rippling effect of when you delay delay delay, the recovery takes longer longer longer. But if looking at a 30 day time frame until the election because seriously when the election occurs. Whatever president is in office. Theyre going to do several things. Theyre going to bridge us economy they have to because they have the economy for the next 4 can do that theyre going to really get away from the politics and focus on covid19. We have to find a solution got to get the vaccine out to people and theyre going to focus also on social becomes less of a political issue and more of an issue of just creating a place for our economy to grow for people to work and left. So you know again 30 days is not going to put us into a w kind of recovery. Well still be in a v shape. We have some very very good. Good numbers coming out of many many different areas. But again there some casualties will be delayed so george real quick were almost out of time while were out of time but real quickly. When there is a package how much do you think we need you know the democrats are saying 2 plus trillion the republicans are saying 1 trillion what do you think is really needed to make a significant difference. Well pam you and i are writing the check for this is all going to go on the back end of economy that that is going to have to be paid back. But i think we have to do whatever we need to do and the Federal Reserve said that they will which theyre doing right now theyre backing the whole credit system. So they would have any any credit freezes middle of that we have to be in the 2 to 3 million tried that excuse me 2 to 3 trillion dollar range in order to to give people significant money to help them bridge deck out through no fault of theirs. Were seeing you know every day were seeing more unemployment and on the other side were seeing more and more jobs created so weve really brought back about half of those jobs that we lost getting the next half is going to be a lot of heavy lifting so the sooner we can get cares act to approved for people and for companies to better off were going to be. In our economy and to keep people healthy yeah in the short term certainly a lot of people are still going to be hurting for a while until this thing gets resolved george in a chevy for Morgan Stanley. Thank you for your time appreciate it. And you thank thank you george from 4 is your local election headquarters a reminder. We are 28 days away from the november elections. Happening tomorrow, california senator Kamala Harris and Vice President mike pence will take the stage for their first and only Vice President ial debate the debate will be at the university of utah in salt lake city, heres new video of the setup today tonight were not sure if theres going to be plexiglas between the 2 candidates and moderators susan page of usa today this morning we were told there would be plexiglass after President Trumps recent covid19 diagnosis, but now, Vice President pence is requesting that no plexiglass dividers be placed on his side of the stage. The Debate Commission also decided to move the 2 candidates seats from 7 feet to 13 feet apart. The debate is set to start at 6 oclock tomorrow night you can watch it right here on kron 4. Well follow the debate with an in depth analysis with inside bay area politics host. Catherine heenan tonight more than 4 Million People across the nation have already cast their ballots for the november election thats compared to just 75,000 people at this time in 2016. Thats according to the u. S. Elections project one of the project administrator says this is the highest rate of early voting on record they attribute the surge in early and mail in voting to the coronavirus pandemic. And for all the information on early voting and your local ballot dropoff locations across the bay area you can visit our website kron 4 dot com. And who refuse to wear a face mask on a utah, a utah bound flight was escorted off the plane in arizona after he and another man who asked him to follow the rules got into a physical altercation take a look at happened saturday as the legion flight was heading to provo utah all passengers say a man started arguing with the Flight Attendant after she asked him to wear a mask, the man was wearing a face shield, but the airline requires that you must wear a mask of the mask Face Covering in addition to the shield. Gate supervisor came to remove the man wearing the face shield when the altercation between 2 passengers began police say the man identified as 52 yearold real hunger was cited with one count of disorderly conduct. The other man was allowed to stay on that flight. Coming up poncho pre sliced groups now being recalled which wants to toss out if you have them at home. A north bay favorite is reopening to the public. Im looking at your mri. Your shoulder seems to be healing nicely. Im sorry baby. I dont want you to play with that. singing twinkle, twinkle little star. How i wonder what you are. How are you doing . Schedule a video visit with your doctor. Kaiser permanente. Thrive. With your doctor. It is a bay area treasure safari west in santa rosa had to close down operations when the glass fire up to 9 days ago the preserve is located just outside the evacuation zone today though the fire is now 50 contained and evacuation orders continue to be downgraded so the preserve was able to safely reopen kron fours noelle bellow has the story. Its a great afternoon. Were open eager to greet guests once again executive director of safari west cayo horn boss tell says the last week was a bit touch and go after the glass fire forced evacuations and road closures leading to the preserve basically forced us to close down and then. Just out of sheer prudent because of the smoke levels that we had we kept it through this last weekend and we opened for tense last night and then tours are going strong today the preserve is home to 98 different species and nearly a 1000 animals. Kao says staff stayed on the property throughout the week or animal staff stayed on site for the whole time we had that here just to monitor the Animals Health and the animals did find a a. During these during the smoke events they become a little bit more lethargic and dont move around as much. But theyre fine and the vets gave us a clean bill of health in. And funny or animal stay lethargic when theres no guests here and they get very excited when we see the 2 are trucks coming through safari west nearly sold out excursions during tuesdays return. The preserve does drills just about every month just to keep themselves prepared for potential wildfires. They say they also link up with calfire regularly to make sure all of their efforts to keep the property safe are up to date noelle bellow kron 4 news. Still ahead working to prevent accidental fires during this high fire season, the latest barriers installed along grizzly peak tonight popular turnouts along scenic grizzly peak boulevard in the east bay hills have been entirely blocked off from the public. Kron fours phillipe djegal tells us the cities of Oakland Berkeley and a Park District are working together to try to prohibit gatherings of those locations to minimize the risk of fire danger. Boulevard from oakland are now off limits to the public. Initially last the 2 cities in partnership with u c berkeley and Regional Park is. Shooting the areas off late at night through the Early Morning but not everyone listened so this is the next step its a pity there, but they have to be blocked off, but they do have to be blocked off ive seen. Nighttime and daytime but mostly nighttime behavior appears absolutely crazy. The Council Member dan cole says prohibiting the public from parking or gathering at the turnouts will lessen the fire danger weather to rest friday or not a red flag. Need cautious about their actions. We cannot have any fireworks up your fireworks are illegal period in oakland, we cant have any fireworks appear people shopping smoking up here no barbecues a lit fires up in the hills area during the season you see berkeley provided the large tree logs used to block off the turnouts eventually called says chains will be added to them to prevent the logs from being moved i dont want to see that youre out i just want to see that closed off. During the high fire season meanwhile, the east bay regional Park DistrictFire Services crews are clearing brush and creating fire breaks in the hills knocking down fuels that could potentially catch fire. Fire services working to avoid a disaster like 1991 when the Oakland Hills fire storm killed 25 people and destroyed thousands of homes if there is a area immediately adjacent for someone. Those who wish light fireworks. It can spread. Thats where a few breaks about all it takes is one spark. In oakland led to the all kron 4 news. On the peninsula federal judges shot down a plan by the u. S. Environmental Protection Agency over the redwood city salt on the e p a wanted corporations to be allowed to dredge and fill those the salt ponds without getting the permits required by federal agencies. This is aerial video of other salt ponds in the area in the bay area in this case, the judge said that the epa was ignoring its own regulations. The epa claim that the 1300 acre redwood city salt cars next to San Francisco bay where not waters of the United States and therefore not subject to the clean water act environmental groups and attorney general Javier Becerra sued the salt ponds are filled with title pools marshland and their use for commercial salt production, the judge sent the issue back to the epa for reconsideration under the correct standards for your health tonight, some pre sliced fruit sold at walmart is now being recalled due to a possible listeria contamination. The brand Country Fresh is recalling containers of apples grapes mangos pineapples and cantaloupe. As a precautionary measure after listeria was detected on its equipment. The recall involves containers labeled freshness guaranteed that have sell by dates between october 30 and october 11th. Listeria symptoms include high fever, severe headache stiffness nausea and abdominal pain the infection can be most serious in Young Children and the elderly. With flu season about to get into full swing medical experts are worried americans wont go out to get vaccinated some want to reassure people that they can safely go and get their vaccines during the pandemic. Basil john reports on why medical professionals say it is so important. This winter we expect a twindemic to epidemics at the same time the countrys doctors are concerned about 2 major threats to americans health. Covid which may increase because were spending more time indoors and of course are all friend or old enemy influenza doctor William Schaffner medical director with the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases says theres something everyone can do to help get your influenza vaccine. Check on your explanations status schaffner says hospitals and doctors offices are taking steps to ensure those vaccines are administered safely people will be wearing the appropriate protective equipment, the nfi deanne centers for Disease Control have both launched public campaigns designed to encourage flu vaccinations one thing that we can do. Is to provide a flu to protect. Same populations who also are at high risk for more severe flu cdc associate director for Minority Health doctor lee liburd. Says the cdc is especially reaching out to minority communities we want to increase backs a nation coverage. Helping to reduce barriers in improving access to the vaccine. In these communities. Both the cdc and the n f i d see if more people get the flu vaccine. Believe more Resources Available to fight the coronavirus reporting in washington, im beall job. The sec a live look outside looking out over the embarcadero in San Francisco with things look pretty quiet out there tonight yeah a lot cooler which is good news abbott dorrance is here to tell not so good news brewing in the gulf of mexico know Hurricane Season continues and weve got delta now. That is a major hurricane that is but make its way right in the gulf of mexico can watch out this is coming your way get this sustained winds now of a 145 miles per hour. This is a monster storm making it a category 4 watch the latest track. It is expected to cross right across the tip of the yucatan peninsula before making its way back out in open waters, a weakened just slightly but boy anything can happen between now and then as we head toward the middle of the week shes slowly make its way toward the north and would you know what possibly making landfall by next friday. Again, louisiana, its about the 3rd hurricane has made landfall there this season. Alright out west we go weve got some nice guys out there see the fog down below couple high clouds up above changes coming our way temperatures in the 60s and 70s the most part still mom some 80s in the valleys tomorrow, youll see some fog in southern San Francisco about 61 degrees 67, partly cloudy and open about 74 degrees and partly cloudy. In san jose overnight tonight, good run of the low clouds and the fog in fact even think enough likely to see some drizzle along the coastline, maybe even a just inside the bay but with that moisture content just great for the firefighters working on the glass fires were going to see that kind of ramp up over the next couple of days and in looks like least the middle of the weekend maybe late in week to maybe with some rain late in the week or at low start to feel little bite in the air 48 for an overnight low in santa rosa about 52 degrees napa 56 in san jose and out over the next few days were going to see some changes coming our way those temperatures cooling down as early as tomorrow more so on thursday and friday and there you go least a chance a chance of showers on friday and on saturday guys. Well it feels like horror movies, weve got the perfect job for you how you can earn some extra cash, this halloween. 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Now at 6 the list of people surrounded by the president who are testing positive for covid19 is growing tonight, Stephen Miller top aide to the president is the latest to be added to the list. Good evening. Everybody, im pam moore and i am ken in a statement, Stephen Moore said over the last 5 days hes been working remotely and selfisolating. Testing negative every day through yesterday. The statement went on to say today i tested positive for covid19 and in quarantine thats a quote miller is now the 11th person to test positive in the white house meanwhile less than 24 hours after returning to the white house President Trump has put a stop to covid relief talks on capitol hill causing the stock market to drop dramatically more now on it is happening in washington and the growing list of people testing positive we turn now to washington dc correspondent. Trevor shirley with the latest river