President trump apparently ambassador taylor had access to. Pompeo he did not have access to President Trump. So i made the phone call i said what do you want President Trump responded with what i put in the text and then i strongly encouraged. Ambassador taylor to take it up with the secretary and he responded i agree. As far as the other part of your question relating to. The prosecutor could make the statement or solecki could make the statement i dont recall who told me whether it was volker whether it was giuliani or whether was President Trump. Its got to be zelinsky it cant be the prosecutor but thats what i relayed whoever i got that information from i relayed that to i believe both mr. Or excuse me ambassador taylor and to mr. But as of september 9, 2, understood did you not. Himself or through his agents required that president zelensky make a public announcement of the 2 investigations that President Trump cared about in order to get both the white house meeting and to release the security assistance. I believe that is correct. Our 45 minutes and i recognize mister nunez. We take a fiveor 10 minute break. Thank you. Kerrygold has a taste so rich it can take you to irelands lush, green pastures. Where grassfed cows produce rich, creamy milk for a truly delicious taste. Kerrygold. The taste that takes you there. Shes made of nerves of steel, so when she has to perform one of the most dangerous jobs on the ship, she says, no problem shes practical and always gets the most bang for her buck. So when another bank tried to charge her Monthly Service fees, cassie said, no way. We made usaa bank to help cassie keep more of her money with no Monthly Service fees or minimum balance requirements. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. 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May be very upset with ukraine and think that. Youve said that an ambassador volker have said that from that may the 23th. Alexandra chalupa. So in 2000. Theres a 2017. Our to saying quote it was clear that they were supporting meaning. Supporting Hillary Clintons candidacy and they did everything from organizing meetings with the clinton team to publicly supporting her to criticizing trump. I think that they simply didnt meet with trump at campaign because they thought hillary but when. You know that ukrainian official any chance that i dont do that. Were you aware that then Ukrainian Ambassador to the u s. Wrote an op ed in the hill during the 2016 president ial campaign criticizing. Then candidate trump. The more disturbing was the crane internal affairs minister. Were you aware that Serhiy Leshchenko a ukrainian parliamentarian admitted that part of his motivation and spreading the information about the socalled black ledger. A disputed document purporting to reveal corruption. Former Trump Campaign official was to undermine the trump camp. So you may be familiar to black ledger was used in the 2016 election to dirty up. Campaign associate. So knowing all these facts from high ranking ukrainian fred would do anything for his daughter even being the back half of a unicorn. Fortunately, the front half washed his shirt with gain. Ahhhhhhh. The irresistible scent of gain. The inlaws have moved in with us. And our Adult Children are here. So we save by using tide. Which means we use less. Three generations of clothes cleaned in one wash. Anybody seen my pants . 1 stain and odor fighter, 1 trusted. Its got to be tide. And talk about whether or not it was appropriate for and to receive over 50,000 a month. They actually were able to stop. Investigator fired. I know youre the ambassador the eu i think some of the members later well get into. It was appropriate for you to be in ukraine or not i believe it was i think give a clear mandate and they to do it. But you wouldnt be the first ambassador. To actually be interested in did you know that in september 2015 that ambassador to ukraine geoffrey pyatt. Publicly called for an investigation just list slabinski the president of this was the Ukrainian Ambassador. Appointed by president obama. So you would not be the first one to be mentioning. Investigation should be done and greece may because it happened during the obama. Did you know that financial records showed respond. Round of more than million to the american accounts tied to hunter biden. As you know that reason is american lawyers trying to secure a meeting with the new state prosecutor the same days percent predecessor. Viktor shokin. The Vice President wanted fired. Were not going to get to the answer to many of these questions because the witnesses that need to come in and clarify exactly what the democrats were doing in 2016. Youre not were not going to build a visit with those witnesses. Its an Inconvenient Truth of the democrats dont want to. Dirty up the Trump Campaign using ukrainian sources in 2016. And they do not want us to get to the bottom of it. They dont want eu ambassadors get to the bottom of it they dont want the president s personal attorney ernie. Even though hes under a special counsel investigation. They fed into the fbi. That weve dealt with for over 3 years. Mister nunez the morning ambassador are you good morning. Mister castor. All day on the 17th late into the night. Thank you for your cooperation with the investigation. The president ever tell you personally about any preconditions for anything. Ok so the president never told you about any preconditions for the aid to be released. On the president never told you about any preconditions for a white house meeting. You said you didnt have your records, your documents from the state department, but if you did there wouldnt be any document or record that. Ties President Trump personally to any of this correct. Well i dont want to speculate what would be a your documents a wreck. I dont recall anything like that. Good heavens open. You testified that Mister Giulianis request. A quid pro quo for the white house meeting. Indicated that you believe that was. Even seeing President Trump centrists cracked. My contact with Mister Giuliani began as i said very late in the process. After august 1st when it when i was first introduced to him. Ambassador volkers so we have already begun those discussions i believe with ukrainians prior to august 1st was expressing the desires of the president correct. Thats our understanding is that how did you know that. Well in the president says talk to my personal attorneys and then misaer giuliani as his personal attorney ernie. Make certain requests or demands we assume its coming from the president. I dont im not testifying that i heard the president tell Mister Giuliani to tell us so if thats your question ive your deposition you he said the question was at the may 23rd meeting with the president said go talk to. To talk to rudy. You responded he didnt even sago talk. Talk to rudy. You subsequently said it was sort of like i dont want to talk about this. So it wasnt order direction to go talk is really any correct. And the conclusion of the 3 of us was that if we did not talk to rudy nothing would move forward on ukraine ok. And then there was may 23th and then you never had any personal communications with julie i until august right. Thats correct. And volker was handling ambassador volker was. It was all kind perry perry and others. You testified hes a professional diplomat cracked. You said you had a great relationship with them. He said he was very smart guy. Ambassador iovanovitch said hes a brilliant diplomat in fact he read that. Is pretty pretty smart. Stated hes one of those people i got him i want to. And so did you hear his testimony yesterday. I did not ok because i was busy getting ready for you. He didnt have any. It didnt have any evidence a these preconditions. And he was the one most to gauge of the ukrainians was an e. Ok, i mean you testified in you know this was his fulltime job, although he was doing it for free. He was the special envoy and you testified you came in and out of the. Your deposition we we asked you about your communications with the president. And we asked you whether there were so many that it would be impossible to chronicle. And you said no wasnt wasnt that many in. We went down the path of building a list of communications you. And we talked about may 23rd in the oval office. You mentioned on july 25th before you went to ukraine you you call the president , but there is no Material Information on the 25th call. Not that i recall ok then the last friday mister came in and. I guess his testimony refresh your recollection. Yeah, what refresh my recollection was when youre. Mention a separate key then all of a sudden it came back. President zelenskyy loving the president and so forth well, the whole thing sort of came back. Then the next time you know we try to unpack this the next time you talk to the president was on the telephone was september nice. According to deposition right. I may have even spoken to him on september 6th, but again i just dont have all the records i wish i could get them that i could answer your questions very easily. But in september 9th at least at your deposition you are extremely clear you called the president you said he was feeling cranky that day right you seem very cranky and you said in no Uncertain Terms of this is on the heel of them heels of the bill taylor text right right. What do you tell us what would the president i say to you on september 9th that you remember well words to the effect i decided to ask the president a question in an open ended fashion because there were so many different scenarios floating around as to what was going on with ukraine so rather than ask the president 9 different questions is that this isnt this isnt that. I just said what do you want from ukraine i may have even used a fourletter word. He said i want nothing. I want no quid pro quo i just want solecki to do the right thing to do what he ran on earth or words to that effect and that gave me the impetus to respond to ambassador taylor with the text i sent as i said to mr. Goldman it was not an artfully written text i should have been more specific put it in quotes Something Like that, but basically i wanted mr. Taylor ambassador taylor to pick up the ball and take it from there. I got as far as i could go. And you believe the president correct. You know what im not going to characterize whether i believed or didnt believe i was just trying to convey what he said on the phone. Ok that point time that the. The pause in theyve his posture 55 days. There was a running out of gift ideas, seeking something more. Well if inspirations what youre searching for. Follow me to a place i know with Endless Possibilities so you can check your list off rowbyrow. Im making this song up as i go come on look around so much in store, youll spend much less but gift much more at the stores that youve been searching for spend less, gift better. At t. J. Maxx, marshalls, and homegoods. Ah, that worked well block time and what i mean is there any discussion of specific investigations is there any discussion of by dr. Burisma. Or anything linking date in this and this email that you sent to pompeo so this this was a proposed briefing. That i was going to give president s alinsky. And i was going to call president zelensky and ask him to say what is in this email i was asking essentially president pompeo is permission to do that. Which he said yes. But but but that at that point in time were talking about investigations into into the origins of the 2016 election and were not talking about anything to do with joe biden. Joe biden did not come up. Stepping back a page to year. Your email to the state department on august 11th. Youre email secretary and you say curtain, i negotiated a statement from zaleski to be delivered from review a day or 2. Here is that i mean that statement never was issued and in fact ambassador volker has testified that he didnt think it was a good idea and ultimately the ukrainians didnt think it was a good idea and said that the statement never reached a. Finalized. Even if it had it it doesnt talk about bidens river or anything in city us. Well the statement as as i recall would have mentioned the 2016 election slash dnc server and to respond. Ok, it would not have mentioned. And if you heard ambassador volker how he talks about. The an investigation into burisma. Ok i mean he has said. Ukrainians engaged in violations of ukrainian law. The prosecutor general to do a ministrations ought to investigate that. Get a master volcker ever relate that to you. No we just talked in generic terms about quote investigating to respond but nothing to do with Vice President biden. Ive never heard Vice President biden come up until. I dont recall the exact date but when it all sort of came together maybe after the transcript of the july 25th call i dont know i dont know the exact date when i made the connection. What are currently a lot of people did not make the connection. When he heard that some of these issues in the whole of the 80 you want to call the president he called the president on august 31th the basics of his letter. Senator johnson. State terry writes i asked him the president whether there was some kind of arrange her they were Conference Calls with ambassador volker our secretary perry. Really vague without seeing the. Are there any other key fact witnesses that would help us. Get to the bottom of whether there is any any link to the aid maybe Brian Mccormack the chief of staff for secretary perry who was involved in and out as well. The aid was ultimately lifted on september 11th correct. And senator johnson. In his letter on page 6 quotes the president on august 31th. Ron i understand your position. Were reviewing it now youll probably like my final decision. So even on august 31th, and this is before any congressional investigation started the president was signaling to senator johnson that he was going lift the 8. Lets on the south ok and. Most of the other witnesses we talked to others from the department of and the. You have to have told us that all along during a 55 day period. They genuinely believed. The hold would be left lifted was it your feeling to its time. I didnt know because every time i asked about the hold i was never given a straight answer as to why it had been put in place to be in love. What do you know about the ukrainians knowledge of the home. Oh thats very vague. I dont know if the politico article triggered it, i dont know if they were told by Mister Giuliani it would be. During your deposition, you. You testified that you did not believe the ukrainians. Again i think i think i testified. I was not clear on the exact dates of when these things when the light went on. There are a lot of conversations going on with the ukrainians by a lot of peoples i dont know who communicated what to them. We have testimony from several witnesses that the president was concerned about foreign a generally and so he was it an appetite to put holds on because he was im trying to be a good steward of us taxpayer dollars to you. Im aware that thats been his position on aid and other matters. Yes and are you a where that is also interested in better understanding the contributions of our european allies that im definitely aware of and there was some back and forth between the state Department Officials im trying to better understand that information for the president. Yes thats correct. And how do you know that wasnt the reason for the hold. I dont. Yet you you you speculate that there was. A link to the this announcement. I presumed it yes. Quickly too. The july tense meeting. The july 10th meeting investor boltons office involving a bass udder. Volcker. Has been the subject of some controversy. Ambassador volker yesterday testified that it wasnt until the end of the meeting Mister Downey look he said was going through son. Some real details. Detailed information about. But it wasnt until the end of the meeting mr. Ambassador volker recollects that you mentioned something general about investigations. What do you remember from that meeting. Well again im not going to dispute ambassador volkers recollection if he is particularly if he had notes. I know that the desire to have the 2016 election dnc server and to respond. Already being discussed by then again i had no direct contact with Mister Giuliani on july 10th. Through ambassador volker. I probably mention that this needs to happen in order to move the process forward that seemed to be. The conventional wisdom of that. I dont recall any abrupt ending of the meeting or people storming out or anything like that that would have been very memorable us. Someone that stormed out of the meeting based on something i said ok nobody accused your that point im of being involved with s relate to you her concerns about you being involved in a drug deal never. So youre surprised when testimony. Urged that she thought there was a drug deal. And in fact after the meeting you went out. You took a picture right. Ambassador bolton. Are his assistant indicated that he was out of times that he needed yet another meeting to attend an. We all walked out of the white house everyone was smiling everyone was happy and we took a picture on the line on a nice sunny day. And they did you ever tired of the word room. He asked to use the word to continue the conversation in the real subject that was under debate and it wasnt a angry debate. It was a debate is should the call from President Trump to president zelenskiy be made prior to the parliamentary elections in ukraine are after the. And there was good reason for both. Ambassador volker and i thought it would help president zelensky to have President Trump speak to him prior to the parliamentary elections because it would give president zelensky more credibility and ultimately he would do better with his people in the parliamentary elections. Others i believe pushed back and said no its not appropriate to do it before it should be done after and ultimately it was done. Theres no mention of Vice President biden and the war graham, not that i remember. Or any specific investigation. Generic investigations. When again did did the. Vice president biden. Very late again i dont its i cant recall the exact date the light bulb went on it could have been a slate is once the transcript was out. It was always very smart to me and i didnt know about the connection between for eastman biden. To the best of your knowledge you never understood that anyone was asking ukrainians to investigate us persons correct. Ukrainians to investigate us person right. The clear ultimately the the aid was lifted. There was never any announcement by the ukrainians about any investigations they were going to do. The ukrainians never to your knowledge started any of these investigations, correct not to my knowledge. These allegations that. Quid pro quo that had to be. Before the age is released that never came to fruition. Step back a little bit. Just verify with you that the president had some genuinely deeprooted concerns about corruption in ukraine for. Thats what he expressed to us yes again, believed him or give him his business dealings in the in the region when we had the conversation i did. The concerns the president had with corruption. President wasnt the only company that was mentioned right. It was a generic as i think i testified chairman schiff, it was a generic. Corruption oligarchs. And but other companies came out today. I dont know if they were mentioned specifically it might have been after gas because we were working on another issue with nafta gas so that might have been one of them. One point in your deposition i believe did you said, yeah, nafta gas comes up in every conversation is that fair probably. I just doctor hill at one point attributed to you. The president has given you a large remit are you familiar with her. I didnt understand what she was talking about ok. But but you you havent we got into this a little bit in your your deposition. You know you said that the president gave you a special assignment. Well when the president appointed me to the us the Us Ambassador the European Union ukraine was part of my portfolio. What made my assignment. Larger than just being part of my portfolio or the unique circumstances where there was no curse and sitting. Ambassador and ukraine. There was a new president in ukraine. The discussions that we had the 3 amigos perry volker and i was that ukraine needed extraordinary. This high level support as it could get from the united states. During this period which we cleared with both. 6, 7, 8 big dreams start with small steps. But dedication can get you there. So just start small. Start saving. Easily set, track and control your goals right from the chase mobile® app. Chase. Make more of whats yours®. Kerrygold has a taste so rich it can take you to irelands lush, green pastures. Where grassfed cows produce rich, creamy milk for a truly delicious taste. Kerrygold. The taste that takes you there. Little more pointed in frantic. And thats when we had very little that little visibility as to what was going on either i think it had to do more with the aid industry why the aid was suspended. And ultimately you. Put a period on that issue by. Having the september 9th communication with the president correct. Thats correct. And when you sure that the deck of the master tailor was was he satisfied that this issue is now behind them. I dont really know because he responded when i said you know get a hold of the secretary. He said i agree and i never knew knew whether he reached out to the secretary or not the sort of the end of that one point in your tech she said lets get on the phone. An individual that doesnt like to walk through these issues on taxed when you can talk cellphone cracked. I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than just a few lines of text i said lets talk ok and did you talk with ambassador taylor. I dont recall. I mean i dont recall whether we spoke right after that whether he called the secretary i basically mister castor wanted to get the notion across that ive gone as far as i can go with this. You need to pick up the but youre the ambassador you need to pick up the ball and run with it. Just getting back to the regular genell that anyone else express any conceru