Into the courtroom in a few minutes later walk out of the courtroom than other thing to note is that only 4 alternates are here we just have 4 alternates and 3 of them are now being used in the judge says shes already received notes for jurors about scheduling conflicts with one alternate left legal experts say a mistrial is now possible of more than one juror cannot be seated now its also important to know that theres a gag order in place which means Defense Attorneys are not speaking to us like they typically do at the end of the day were also not hearing from family now thats not because of the gag order just lot of the motions of course they walked out here not too long ago we were ready to s speak with them this afternoon. They said its just too overwhelming and too difficult to speak at this time. Michelle. Yeah, what has been the overall sentiment i know you had these family members you reference to were alerted that there would be this major announcement i imagine a lot of them had hoped that that was a verdict but now this whats been the vibe there between family members coming to the courthouse. As well as jurors that youve been seeing walking in and out in you know had to be sort of a surreal day. You know his secret unit has been here every single day the past 10 days of the jury has been deliberating i havent been here so for me to get that call today, you know we obviously assume there was a verdict coming down as family was called at about 1230 today like i said to come in. They knew that there was no verdict that they knew that there is a major announcement and i think they were just ready. I think they were ready to hear whats next in this trial. Its been a long and difficult case for them to sit through and listen to all of that testimony. And again when they came down this afternoon. Just too overwhelmed to speak with that its a lot of information and to know that all the deliberations have to begin all over again its a very unclear as to how long. They will deliberate moving forward. I mean we went through 10 days of deliberations who knows how long deliberations are going to take now. Yeah, we were speculating back here what was happening there was some thought that this was going to be a mistrial for the families again you are alluded to this said it was its a very emotionally draining experience. Im at i can imagine why they dont want to talk down to do you think they they can handle this michelle we just lost her. Were going to move on. Joining us now to talk about the latest developments in this trial is criminal defense lawyer paula canny while im paula thanks high co youre with nice time a lot you here in person now thank you for. Being here where you. As stunned as the rest of us to hear the announcement today. Im surprised that 3 jurors were removed is a group i mean thats a big deal when i think about all the things that can happen in jury deliberations to remove a group arguably a click thats unusual. So the standard for removing a jury or is there has to be some sort of miss conduct that is prejudicial to the Fair Administration of justice. So i dont know why they were move theres all these stories are they were talking to the media air they were talking to the families or they were talking to are they you know did independent investigation all the things that you could think of but unless that conduct prejudice is the Fair Administration of justice they shouldnt have been remove so my gut is that what happened is these jurors have been you know delivering 10 days. My sense is that these 3 jurors were just like. Were not guilty. We just think that were not guilty and further deliberations are going to do us no good. And so if the judge brought in and each of the jurors and asked them. And 9 jurors said theyre refusing to deliberate from the judge could remove some for not being willing to continue efforts at the liberation so thats my god i have no fat basis for. But its unusual to me to remove a group. All right so your read is this good or bad for the prosecution. Well its good for the prosecution because the 3 impediments to conviction were removed by the judge. What about though these a scheduling conflicts now we heard that 6 notes got past the judge today. Once the new jury convened if you will. Its a risk though right you remove these 3 and then you just go on the side you have one alternate and you have a whole what you could have another month or so. So i mean. At this point if the 3 would have said further deliberations arent worthwhile she could have declared a mistrial and there would be no verdict and the choice would be whether the prosecution would start again. Now there are 3 new juror first there were. So that leaves one alternate and in order to have a verdict there has to be in california, 12 jurors. So if 3 jurors are like we have to go or this doesnt work or some ason that they can continuing deliberating and that number blows falls below 12 miss trial end of story and theres nothing the judge can do. What about all the taxpayer money that has been used on this trial some people that dont follow this closely forget that there is a plea deal that was agreed upon oh man it would get 9 years harris would get 6 years 6 and they just. Is there some regret now that they didnt just go for that. Im sure that but theres a lot of talk in the District Attorneys Office and among the judges on around you know courtroom, pundits and the like that. By rejecting that plea you know bargain so much has happened. Its spent thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars tons and tons and tons of stress. I mean uncertainty creates stress and just like the victims families are stressed out. So are the defense lawyers so are the defendants so are the defendants families. This is a super paul r case because there is a large number of people that say this is crazy to scapegoat these 2 people when so many other people have a part in allowing go shipped to exist and then theres the other group that its like we need to hold these 2 people accountable. So politically its a pretty polarized thing and and again the thing that people need to understand about. And here is even if theyre convicted. And this is whats called an 1170 age crime, Involuntary Manslaughter is one of those crime times that although its a felony the person cannot be sent to prison. The sentence must be served and in the county jail. It was one of the things that the legislature did in 2020 12 to eliminate prison overcrowding youre saying theyll never go to they will never go to prison. The maximum punishment to them i believe is 39 years and so science and that senator reid and courage act if they were sentenced to the maximum punishment under the crediting rule for every day they serve they get oneday credit so they would search that have that time in santa rita county jail a place that was never designed to keep anybody longterm so. Where do we go from here how much longer do you think we have would have these 3 jurors who are the all traits been doing since deliberations started and how long will it take. To get them up to speed, i mean im sure theyve been trying to go about their lives as we all do, but were a quarter during the trial and then since then they were free to go exact one still liberation start. The judge dismisses the alternate says go about your life do whatever you want to do the on telephone stand by and if you if we call you you have to come in. So im sure that they were kind of going about their life. But also at the same time nervous about being called in so their lives are now totally interrupted and remember a judge has a huge amount of power. That judge even has the power to order that jury sequestered meaning you dont go home. You stay here until you reach a verdict believe she suspected that there was contact with the media which corrupted at the first arrest. Were looking at at least another couple weeks to to reread all of us are all tonight at us if the 3 are going to be as diligence is the original 12 which lie. Law correct, but they could say well we remember it this way and this is how we feel because remember of fema look back to many years ago to the Scott Peterson case. Was removed and the new composition of 12 had a verdict in under 8 hours. So its hard to know whats going to happen its hard to know. They the jurors arent required to do exactly the same process as they did the first time around i mean i dont know who the foreperson of the jury is i dont know if one of the 3 was the foreperson. The foreperson has the power to sort of semi control in some ways how the 12 will deliberate among themselves, but its a whole new group of people so just think about Group Dynamics of and it goes from being predominantly women overwhelmingly 3 quarters to now almost 5050 men and women and maybe that dynamic will have some place so its its just hard to know except that its going to be just more stress for everybody everybody, your gut do you really feel that in the end that people will feel justice is served or. With these families feel robbed. Leslie your legal weed or you can have your legal guns, but you both at least according to the federal government. Washington dc correspondent Trevor Shirley reports. Kim petr served in the air force for 10 years even deploying overseas. Now retired in delaware she legally uses medical marijuana to help with ptsd. Jury theyll probably work out some sort of plea bargain to end all of this and if its a guilty. Theres absolutely going to be an appeal and one of the issues is going to be removing 3 jurors after 10 days of deliberation thank you paul. Its a lot to unpack here we have show you of your legal weed or you can have your legal guns, but you. At least according to the federal government. Washington dc correspondent Trevor Shirley reports. Kim petr served in the air force for 10 years even deploying overseas. Now retired in delaware. Indigo ship trial kron 4 will have Live Team Coverage at the courthouse at at t we believe in access. The opportunity for everyone to explore a digital world. Connecting with the things that matter most. And because nothing keeps us more connected than the internet. Weve created access from at t california households with at least one resident who receives snap or ssi benefits. 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It was the judges decision to release him pending trial after his arraignment last week that caused the victim to tweet out Surveillance Video showing the attack outside her beale street condo building that disturbing video then drew Media Attention and sparked outcry from the community the judge seen the video on the news modified her decision and ordered vincent to be fitted with a gps monitor which he wore returning to her courtroom today for a status hearing that ended up being postponed. As Police Officers were waiting for him to surrender on a 100,000 arrest warrant. Police say a second woman to solve the nhss mug shot on the news and recognized him as the person who attacked her at 4th and brandon back in february the victim in that case was with a couple of friends at a local restaurant. Outside ready to go home they were attacked by mister vincent with a knife. Thoue individuals had called for an uber ride. And you arrive. Right arrived and they were able to get into the hoover and leave the scene. The deputy chief says theyre also in the early stages of investigating 2 other incidents in the last couple of months that have come to light since this is a rest in the beale street attack, although one of the new accusations being investigated is described as vlent encounter. Isturbingly and the other one, not quite a similar. Has some some things in common. This is attorney spoke to reporters outside the courtroom. Austin has been doing everything that the judge ordered him to do. He takes a situation. Very serious but is also taking his treatment very serious and hes been doing everything he has to do. To get better vinson is now back inside the San Francisco county jail booked on several new charges, including assault with a Deadly Weapon and making criminal threats. Hes due back in court for that postponed status hearing and likely. His arraignment on these new charges tuesday afternoon. Maureen kelly kron 4 news. We have Team Coverage on this story here also vincent second arrest comes as no surprise to the victim of last weeks assault. Yeah in kerman is live outside the condo where that attack happened with more on this day. Thats were in contact today with the victim of an assault that happened early sunday morning a week ago. She says that she is not surprised at all that he has been arrested again even if it was a previous attack. The fact that assault suspect Austin Vincent is back in the county jail now accused of a second assault comes as no surprise to pennies casar ian, shes the woman in this video who vinson is charged with assaulting a week ago. In a statement because sorry and tells kron 4 news. Shes not surprised the judges the das office in the city need to take these matters more seriously and look at these cases with more scrutiny because as its been proven just in the past week when criminals are struggling with Mental Illness and substance abuse. They cant be safe to be on our streets. But its not a matter of if they would hurt residents of San Francisco. But a matter of when last week a sorry and is going after the judge inpthe District Attorney for their roles in the suspects released pending a return to court and shes also taken on the mayor for not doing enough to keep the residents of her city safe. We asked the mayor about vinsons latest arrest. I think there were number of mistakes across the board and. This is really why we need some changes to our criminal Justice System why we need Mental Health reform. Why we need to make sure that the systems are in place to make sure that someone like this who was arrested in the first instance is addressed and it doesnt lead to an additional situation. This week in casar ian and the groups safe embarcadero for all used her incident to call for a halt to the construction of the Homeless Navigation Center adjacent to kiss aryans condo but the mayor is still committed to the plan is sadly in san franyisco. Homelessness is a major issue and so the question is do we allow people to continue to sleep on our streets or do we at least provide opportunities for them to go indoors. Get supportive Wraparound Services so that we can help them transition into the help and the support they need or into permanent supportive housing. The District Attorneys Office has also come under fire from this sorry and 4 having that video but never showing it or mentioning it to the judge during that first hearing last week. Were also finding out from police that when they were looking into of incident for the second incident they had informed the das office that they were looking into vincent. Its unclear exactly when the das office knew about this if it was before. After that second hearing on friday. Live in San Francisco. Dan kerman kron 4 news. Thank you dan still at far as trying to reduce its waste but it could cause a headache for commuters, the stations no longer accepting paper ticket 7 Gavin Newsome signing a police use of force bill rodeo. And let me tell you something, i wouldnt be here if i thought reverse mortgages took advantage of any american senior, or worse, that it was some way to take your home. Its just a loan designed for older homeowners, and, its helped over a million americans. A reverse Mortgage Loan isnt some kind of trick to take your home. Its a loan, like any other. Big difference is how you pay it back. Find out how reverse mortgages really work with aags free, noobligation reverse mortgage guide. Eliminate monthly mortgage payments, pay bills, medical costs, and more. Call now and get your free info kit. 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And our 4 zone forecast lets take a live look outside much as we could see through the fog there are cam overlooking downtown San Francisco and the citys emerging as we speak the fog just kind of drifting their past our camera once it wrote our chief meteorologist Lawrence Karnow is here it was noticeably cooler the past couple that nice to finally cool down a bit over the weekend. Yh. Looks the trend is going to be going up again those eigh pressure takes over that sea breeze really kick in fact some white caps so out of bay waters even this afternoon and you havent got that fog. That is the industry back on shore more that on the way little big swirl off the coastline. That is a strong area of low pressure thds time of year spin around getting closer and closer not gonna bring us any rain but likely bring some rain drops up the pacific northwest, well keep things dry here except for maybe some patchy drizzle overnight tonight but that fog begin to reform again its going to surge well on shore think all the way the interior valleys outside right now we do have some nice numbers, but again breezy. Yes, 75 degrees in san jose 73 degrees much more comfortable more they 78 in khaki to find some 80s into fairfield in pittsburgh, 79 say to leave the 77 in nevado and 72 degrees right now in petaluma tonight, the increasing low clouds and even some patchy drizzle tomorrow morning fog and then becoming mostly sunny and breezy for the week ahead is going to see a ridge of High Pressure slowly building in a the Desert Southwest again, and that is going to bring that dry desert air to the bay area. 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