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Judy and its friday. Mark shields and david brooks will analyze the opening of the impeachmen trial and the democratic race in two weeks until the Iowa Caucuses. All that and more in tonights pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by Consumer Cellular offers no contract wireless plans that are desied to help you do more of what you enjoy whether youre a otographer or a bit of everything. Our u. S. Based Customer Service team is helping you to find what fits you. Bnsf railway. American cruise lines. Fidelity investments. The john s. And james knigh and engaged communities. Med and with the ongoing support of these institutions. And friends of the newshour. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Good evening. Im vanessa ruiz. Well have the rest of the full program after these headlines. President trumps Legal Defense team for his Senate Impeachment trial is taking shape andpa ing. It was reported it will include ken starr, theme f independent council whos investigation led to president clintons impeachment and alan dehowitz. Pat cipollone and jay sekulow. Mike pompeo will investigate allegations that the former ambassador was under investigation. Allegations will palse. S the they came from lev parnas, an associate of mr. Trumps personal lawr rudy giuliani. The u. S. Dd Supreme Court ed two more cases. The court agreed to hear a dispute wheer electoral voters one who wins in the state. And they are seeking to enforce a new rule that allows them to have a religious exemption and avoid to pay for con tremeous seppingses. An injunction is currently ha blocking rule. The state Supreme Court ueld Governor Ralph Northam banng all weapons from capital they had sued to overturn that order. President trump tonight tweeting that the Second Amendment is under ver serious attack in virginia separately three additional membs of a white supremist group were arrested in georgia of militant Antifascist Group this comes after white supremists were arrested yesterday in maryla and dwoir. They were headed to monday really. The y thole khamenei the Ayatollah Khamenei addressed friday prayer for the first time in eight years. He told grounds that u. S. Officials are lying when they claim toupport the demonstrators. [speaking foreign language] these american clowns who falsely and despicably who say we are standing with theperanian le can see who the iranian people are. If you do stand with theraan people it is because you want to stick your poison dagger into the chest of the iranian nation. Predent trump tweeted that khamenei should be careful with his words. E state Department Special representative for iran ban eats can increased t only backfire. As long as the regime become further isolated. Ill until iran behaves le a normal nation, its isolation will only deepen. Hook urged germany and the u. S. To join with a new nuclear the pentagon denied information about u. S. Troops being injured when iranian missiles hit an base i iraq. Officials now say 11 Service Members sufferedcu cions. President trump and defense secretary mike esper initial said there were no casualties in the january 8th attack. Well, a journalis and a leading activist in chinas fledging me too movementre was today after three months. Human rights watch said 30yearold sophia su a. Chin had been detained on suspicion of provoking trouble. He had reported on the me too movement Sexual Harassment in china and the protest in hong kong. A jury was selected in former movie producer harvey weinstein. Seven men a five women were chosen after complaints that they were trying to exclude young women. He faces charges of rape and Sexual Assault involve twoling women in new york. Testimony will b egin next wee involving two women in new york. Testimony will bin next wk. Former congressman Christopher Collins wasrs sentenced two y and two months inner conspiring to commit securities fraud and ing to law enforcement. Prosecut ors said the inside trader scheme allowed them to dodge 800,000 in losses. He pleaded glt to the charge last fall. Stoil come on the newshour with judy woodruff. Australia burning. And the nation covers to recover. New rules for school lunches. And venezuela yanl Opposition Leader juan guaido on talung me of his country and much more. This is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and from the water cronkite schl ofis journalat Arizona State university. Judy firefights in australia are finally getting some help this week from nature in the form of rain and thunderstorms. But many fires are still burning. Millions of acres have been lost adding up to a combined area as rge as the state of vir and the brushfires have done tremendous damage to the australian ecosystem and to wildlife. Our science correspondent miles ien is there for us as well as for the weather app my radar. Miles joins us now from the southeastern part of the country. Hes in sarsfield. First of all, bring us to date. What is the latest on the situation there. Well, judy, the weather is a little bit better here. Eres been a little bit of rain the humidity is higher. Theyvead record heat here. It there is a of a respite. But were about 55 days into this epic fire sson. Its by no means over. There are 17 fires still uncontained here in the state of victoria where im standing just to north and new south wales, another 30 fires and thats two sections of southeast australia. There are fires all across the country. This is damaged and destroyed 25 million acres. Just look at the scene here, judy. Its almost like im standing at the bottom of barbecue at the end of aal night, chroma removed. Its almost a noon scape. Multiply that at 24 million acres and you get just a slight idea of how epic this fire season has been already. T judy st looks like a wealsland of ash. Miles, weve been hearing so much about theoss of not just human life, i guess tonight or 29 people have died. But the loss of wildlife. In australia where there arep so manycious animals and others. What have you learned about that . Miles thats an important poina austra being a continent, and islands home to many species that are nowhere else on the planet. An and of those species are facing an onslaught. Weve seen just those the marsupials. Tures of some of koalas are very vulnerable. Theyre very slowmoving. Theyre finicy eaters. They climb ue a t when a fire comes near them. Ths not ad goo place to be. 30 of koala population may have been killed. One scienti said the might be a billion animals killed already. Thats a difficult number to verify obviously. And this is a very dynamic situation. But the scientists ive talked remember what were dealing with right now is just the beginning. After all, these animals have to come back to this. Their home, their the food system. The ecosystem, the food chain as all biss disrupted. And so the deaths theyre dealing with now, the injuries theyre dealing with now they fear is just the beginning. Judy ouve also been talking to the scientist who are experts in climateoo changeng at at whats happened to australia. Miles yeah, its a complicated picture. Its never simple. But cli ate change is big player in all of this. There are some significant ocean currents. Its sortoflikeelnino, la nina. They call it the indian dry pole which has exacerbated conditions here iusnalia. There was some warm weatherer i antarctica causing it to be much windier this year. But at the basef it all is Climate Change. As temperatures rise, these forests just dry out. The dries get dryer. This i compelling evidence that Climate Change is at root here and i factors in, judy, to a political debate that rages here as well as thd e uniates. Judy youve been looking at how Public Opinion haseen shifting. Youve been talking to some folks who have been advocating for more public awareness. Miles this is a country who is a huge fossil fuel exporter. Its the number three of coal and oil behind russia and saudi arabia. N you talk about Climate Change, gt immediatels into a conversation about jobs and the economy. And so this is a w countryre the political leadership, the prime minter has been has been a climate denyier moving into a skepticism. But through all of, this given the tremendous impact that all of this has had, the emotional impact and the devastating losses, mr. Morrison is now saying his views are evolvg. And tha is a significant moment for australian politics. Youh know, m of the news here is dominated by the news corporatio run by Rupert Murdoch strictly almost strictly antiClimate Change views, climate denial views but even that is changing some of the tabloids are starting to address this too. Very quickly, just the other day, the son of Rupert Murdoch, James Murdoch openly split with his family and said that the News Corporation should be addressing this issue more directly. On top of all of this, what is troubling, judy, is this is really the beginning of the traditional fire seasone, february and march are oftentim where the real fires begin. Judy miles obrien reporting from victoria in australia. So hard to believe until you see it up close likehis. Thank you, miles. Miles youre welcome, judy. Judy when Michelle Obama was first lady, one of her key initiatives was to push for healthie nutrition and food choices. That translated into a change the country. Dhool but the Trump Administration and some state officials argued that the Obama Administration went too far. Beenhis administration has rolling back some of those moves as our correspondent tells us, today the u. S. Department of agriculture proposed additional changes. The Trump Administrationy alre changed the obama standards for whole grains, sodiumnd nonfat milk. Today it proposed new rules that were role back t amount of fruits and vegetables required at School Breakfast and lunches. They feed nearly 3 Million Students around t country. Some advocates are worried about these changes. Crystal fitssimons is the director of schools and out of school food programs, an Advocacy Group that targets ndunger nutrition. Thank you for coming on the newshour. Thank you for havinge on. Obama era schools led to alo more fd waste. The agriculture secretary says sade this is common sense flexibility that they need to continue to provide Traditional School lunches. What do you say . Think that would be n right. We need be providing the healthiest meals. Changes under the Obama Administration did a lot. And we know that mor than 30 million kids are relying on school lunch for healthy lunches. But was there low participatio do we know that . Participation has been remaing pretty strong. And we know that there are lots of things that contribute to kids not eatintheir lunches. Kids really do need to have enough timen order to eat their lunches. And too many schools do not provide enough time during the lunch hour. And we know that theres millions of kids who live in households that struggle against hunger. And we know we have a huge cobesity epidend we need to be working hard to provide fruits and vegetables,rains, low sodium to get the nutrition they need learn and be healthy. Help me put a finer point to understand what this looks like. A standard breakfast say under the previous rules i they had to provide one couple of fruit. What would be different . Now it would be just half a cup. There would be less fruit on the tray. And the flexibility we wantk to be eating fruit. We want the schools be offering healthy fruit. D we wan tm to be introducing fruit to kids and differe kinds of fruit. And we want schools to be working hard to make sure theyre providing appealing meals. A lot of the heaines are talking about burgers and french fries. Under te previous rules schools had to provide at lunchtime a sort of variety ofab vegs. Whats new . What would be different . Theres more flexibility in providing vegetables. So we would expect to see more frenchries onhe school lunch try. Heres the question because obviously youre assuming that they will take the lower nutritional value option is given the option here. I want to put to you the statement fm the School Nutrition association. This is the organization ofca teria workers, tall businesss that provide the food to the schools. They welcomed these changes. And they said, look, the updated nutrition f standar school meals have been a tremendous success overall but they cited the same thing saying there has been reduced participation and higher costs. Youre assuming that they provide less healthy options, but might they uphold the same nutritional standards theyre t reired there are a lot of schoo nutrition departments and s a l ool districts that are commitd to providing healthy meals. But we wan to make sure that kids in oregon have healthy meals as kids in illinois and kids in california. Its a nationa program. We need national standards. And we need to make sure that g kids ating healthy food. Who relies on a lot of these programs. Who are you worried is going to be most affected by these potential changes and how . The vast majority of kids are low income and do receive either free or reduced price school lunches. K and wew that those meals are actually often the meals that theyre going to b rying on and their only meals. We want to make sur theyre healthy. And we need to make sure they have access to them. And schools can do a lot to reduce reduce waste by making sure they do have enough time to east. So there are strategies. You know, schools are doing salad bars. Schools are doing far to school. Theres really wonderful creative ways th schoo across the country are making sure that kids want to eat theii and vegetables and we want to make sure its happeng at every schools and we do not want to see the rollbacks to the school nutri. On standar this is a proposed n rule. Theres a period in the coming days. Do you see this as a done deal . Do you see that these dont go through . Its not a done deal if everybody responds and submits mmits. Theres a huge to weigh in on this to let people know we dont want to see these standllds back. And people should take these steps and take the time to lettr the adminion know that they want healthy meals in their schoolgr ps. Crystal fitssimons of the recertain and action centers. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Jue earlier, w showed you the impact ofdf wes in australia. Nge cg climate is affecting countries around the world. This past decade was the htest decade since data was first recorded. Scientist and activists have long been sounding the alarm. This week in one of the larger explained how it might change the way america does the business. The Investment Firm black rock manages 7 trillion. That makes it the lgest asset manager in the world. Now,he firm has announced that environmental sustainability in this influential yearly letter to company, black rock c. E. O. Wrote climate risk is investment risk and tha every government, company and shareholder must confront Climate Change. She went on to say that the Climate Crisis will force and. Nance. Aping of it will begin moving money away from coal and into others with a greater focus on sustainbility. Brian dieses the head of sustainability investing for r blackk. And he joins me now. Thank you very much for doing this because of the enormous size of your firm. Youve been under a lot of pressure to Push Companies to take a more active stance on Climate Change. And i know that theres a lot of environmentalists that have celebrated your recentove. Help us understan whyow . Why did you guys decide to do this . Wl, wha we communicated this week is really driven by our increasingonction around the investment risk that Climate Change is posing. And yoheknow, a lot of way that traditionally people have approached investi has assumed that the climate was going to stay relatively stable. But if you look at whats ppening whether its a wildfire in austral or california, floods in the midwt, increased, hurricane and flooding that weve seen across the country, it ju isnt viable to assume that stability going forward. And when we look closely at it, we increasingly recognize that those risks arent fully appreciated in financial marketsle we belief thatgere go to see a massive reallocation of capital. We wan to be ahead of it and make sure that we are taking those risks into account when were delivering investm t solutions. How will that actually look . What is it that you areetrying to companies to do . What will you guys be doing . First and most important thing is to measure this risk. And were talking both about the physical risks. Nc soased flooding that would affect the value of a building or the value of a company, but also the risks of the transition. And so we know that the societyi isng to move toward lower emissions solutions. That means that companies that were reliant on fossil fuels are going to face pressure. And on the upside companys that areompeting for null carbon efficient technologies are going to win. D so we want to understand those risks and we want to integrate them into how were goin to deliver an investment solution whether thats inbo sos 401k or a large pension plan or a college endowment. You Want Companies to think about this starting today and going forward, their carbon footprint, their own climate fxposure. What i a company doesnt do that in your portfolio . How do you exert pressure to do what you think ty ought to be doing . Well, in portfolios where we ve discretion, we can implement by guy bying or sselling the compa security. And so for example, weve announcing that we intent to exit companys that rely on thermal coal mining for a revenue. Ant amount of their hose portfolios where we dont have discretion we can engage directly with those companies and communicate our expectations in terms of how theyre goiha to ce their Business Model and how theyre going to plan for this coming transition. Im curious, would black rock ever consider phasing out some out of your portfolio entirely . That according to many would be the true market signalhats its time change . Were focused from this from the perspecve of investment risk in some cases like for example thermal w coal,e believe the risk to that Business Model are so pronounced that it esnt make senseo bare the risk. Is will be a transition across time. But the most important thing for us is to reinforce that these risks are more pronounced than financl markets currently understand and that we want to get better and better at measuring those risks. And were going to take action in our portfolio. Hh of this movement f es from the hundreds o thousands of people weve been seeing marching in the streets pressuring governments, cizens, governors, president s and corporations to try to addrs Climate Change . Was that part of the decisionmaking process . Well, its interesting. As we actually think about invement ricks, that pressure and socie frustration and expectation on companies is part of driving us toel bve that we are going see this big realocion of capital. Its the physical risk that come from Climate Change but thals society has different expectations of companies, and going forward, the future savers and the future investors are the young people today. They hav different expectations an they are goingo speak with their capital. Thats another reason why we believe we are going to see this fundamental r location of capital and that will manifest itself in some compa es performing better and some performing worst. That hasen inves implication and we believe thats only going to increase across time. Ery much, thank you for doing this. Thank you. Judy stay with us. Coming up on the newshour, mark shields and david brooks break down the weekhat saw the start of the president s impeachment trial. And the rebirth of capricorn records, a symbol of southern rock is back in business. And now, to venezuela, a nation suffering from economic meltdowc and pol crisis. One year juan guaido pronounced president nico lals maduro illegitimate and said he was the rightful president. Guaido won the support of nearly 60 countries around the world including u. S. But president madur remains in power. With support from the pulitzer zernt, special correspondent marcia biggswi sat down th guaido inaracas. Members of parliament lined up with him hadnt even reached parliament when their convoy was attacked by supportersf president maduro. Guaido lashed out at what h said was a naked power grab and campaign ofid intion by maduro. Theyre announcing the military thee over of palace. Right here im denouncg it to the world. Th mre usingitary and paramilitary group, civilian groups armed by the dictatorship to violently attack the palace. Maduroiv a at the National Assembly palace to deliver his state of thenion dress before his supporters. He criticized guaido as a of the u. S. And called for new legislative elections in year. He people should decide on this conflict with their votes, their political will. Pa ith iamentary electio in 2020. The conflict maduro is referring to who actually controls parliament. La week, National Guard troops under Government Order blocked guaido his support frers entering th National Assembly for a leadership vote. Inside, maduro supporters ected their own speaker an opposition member willing to negotiate with maduro. But two days later, he was sworn in as speaker by his supporters leaving the venezuelan people which of these dueling parliaments and leaders is actually in power. Meanwhile, the country remains crippled, soaring food prices, and a gasoline shortage all made worse by u. S. Sanctions. And many of this countries most vulnerable citizens left on their own. I met guaido in his officen racas yesterday to discuss all of this. Juan guaido, thank you so much for is it downing with us. Sitting down with us. What is going o in the National Assembly in venezuela . As you may know, venezuela suffers from a dtatorship. It incarcerates people, persecutes that has endured the most severe hanitarian emergency. Five and half million migrants only surpassed by syria in terms of the refugee crisisinthwoe d. Thats what venezulans are facing today. The National Parliament has become a beaco of resistance of democratic struggle of defense of the rights the venezuelans. It has not been exempted. Thats why the dictatorship is attacking us. That is our great strug which will i lead from the National Parliament. Must say that enjoy remarkable inrnational recognition and that is what happening today in the interNational Assembly. In te last two weeks there have been incredible number of etchts. Events. Each one believes theyre the legitimate parliament. Theres only one parliament. What were experiencing is a militaryization of parliament en a fiend brave defense by our parlientarians. The use of blackmail and the use ot oney from funds, has n gained acceptance because the world continues to support us and the venezuelaian people. There are not two countries facing each other. Instead 90 of the country is in a change. Ok. Who is running the country . Aking foreign language] that answer is not easy either. Why . Dictatorship. The today is the crinality that exercise control of the country. Dallas generalized anarchy in the country. Todayhe common and prevailing of the country is that of hungry and drug trafficking. And we are fighting precisely to recover normality, to reestablif the rule law so that human rights can be respected in venezuela. Its been a year since you. Eclared yourself preside maduro remains in powerful parliament is now split. And meanwhile as you described a very bleak picture for this country a crisis ofyp inflation and hger and a failing medical syste tell m how you do move forward . What is your strategy . [speaking foreign language] several things. I didn declare myself president. Article 2 33 of the construction state that the president of the particlement of the country. Today im the acting president of venezuelan while a president ial selection duely organized. I must reiterate my previous aner our parliament is not split. The dictatorship tried to tear it apart resorting to bribery and decided to use the mill tarnede didnt succeed there either. In spite of that at the risk ofu lives, we managed to assert the lives of venezuelans, not just theajority of the parliamentarians, in order to go to work i have to overcom gunfire jump over walls and jump over paramilitaries. Even though the dictatorship is jacking power. How have they kept power . The dictatorship has the support f those whoth hijacked e weapons of the republic. That day where wepe pushed the door is the met for for what is happening in venezuela. Source of revenue is oil are you infavor of these sanctions. Enezuelaian Oil Production has been falling for years. It has nothing to do with impo stion ofction. Last year production remained at 700,000 barrels throughout ath ye has not changed. Which is to say it hasntin no to do with the sanctions. And the dictatorship continues to sell the oil tt they manage to extract. We must sk mechanism to stop this totalitarian regime. Would you want a u. S. Military interventi i want a solution. I want an urgent solution for my country. I want to stop seeing children suffering in venezuela. I want to stop seeing women saying goodbye to their children at the airport. Venezuela today is the most violent country in the world. Racas is the most violent cap nal the world. So its my responsibility to evaluate all thed options to this tragedy to end once and for all the suffering of our people and we must have all options on the table. Weve already seen so much political violence. Are you worried about a civil war . I have no dou thats what the dictatorship wants. Now, we are not in favor lets say of pitting people against people. We are dermined to put an end to this situation in the best possible way as i was just saying a few moments a. T today the dictatorship has a monopoly on weapons. We could see aevere gentlelady side. National Police Forces has the massacred 18,000 venlsians in venezuelans in years. They want to prep vent us from entering parliament. And thats why ime was cing minutes ago. We must evaluate all the options to p an end to this tragedy that venezuelans and all the inhabitants of this country are ering for sure. Thank you so much for speaking to us. Judy for just the third time i u. S. History the chief justice of the United States has sworn in u. S. Senators with an oath that they will conduct impartial of a sitting president. Nt they will keep four 2020 president ial contenders in washington. While others will head to iowa ahead of the first primary rcontest in a yea coming in just over two weeks. Here to assess theseri his times are sheemeds and brooks. Thats mark shields and New York Times columnist david brooks. Hello to both of you. Lets talk about this impeachment trial, mark that is almost here. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi waited a month to transmit the ticl of impeachment of the senate. Did that translate into a smart move . I think so. I think its fair to sayha the case has been strengthened against the president and that and the calls for evidence has been strengthened inhe intervening four weeks. We learned that ambassador john boltonow willing to testify if subpoenaed. Learned about russia further russia hacking of t gas company in ukraine. Weve learned at least allegations about the president s more deep involvement all the way to the point o charges that operatives friendly to trump campaign, a candidate for congress was physically surveilling in hostile manner the United States ambassadoro ukraine and sending messages of the sort that for a price we can wn so i think theres any question that this builds up that the case for evince and for new. The so the case is stronger, david . David i think. Nk so i theyre both are true. If you view the polling over the last month, the the numbe of people who think trump should be removed has gone down slightl the number of people who think should not be removed has gone up by four or five percentage points. So now a very slight pleurality think he should be removed. You certainly dont see it so farfut there and i anything, i think the psychology of the moment istu that that is a little old news. Weve got this exciting election kmpaign. Th theres more interest in that than impeachment. Judy so the delay may have hurt i think it hurt and i certainly dont see any well spring of public support. Ly, it had not sadly, it was learned that the facts and hard evidence mean nothing to this presiden in his utterances in his tweets or in his rally statements. The question is do the facts and hard evidence mean anything to th united stat senate . Or are we in a new era where facts and hard evidence are to be ignored . If youve been an uncritical supporter, your position has forward. Kened as you move i think you can look forward to four more weeks of not goodings in. The information coming forward is not going vindicate the president. s going to further implicate the president. And. And i think they know it. What do we expect of this sflile there expect of this trial . Ivern l to never underestimate trumps selfsabotage. Imssuming he did more. That will continue to come out. The phone call transcript on day one of this whole deal, to me he was 99 guilty and now hes t rise 99. 9 guilty. But its a marginal difference. It seems to ne republicans are worthy say bad but not of removal. That seems the be the argument theyre already making thats the argument sean hannity is makeing on fox. Thats not an argument wvident. Itt our standards argument. Thats what theyre going to stick with, think i think. Im frankly struck by the people who have joined his defense team. Alan dershowitz and ken starr. Why would you want to go to a movie where they have bad lines . I would not say its aareer enhainser. Judy you think theyll say things that will hurt the case . Schiff will just you know, hell justr walk all oem because he has the evidence on his side. Its not a debate you want tohe have youre on the losing side and this is basically a potical game to gethrough it. David is right there. The old cliche about spos this defense team has a lot of is in startingh w alan dershowitz, recently deposed t president of Baylor University for an athletic scandal and other shortcomings. Cipollone one pat has the hard e job. Theyre far more cohesive for we had exposed this week. We heard it on this show by one of the president s supporters that it was all about corruption. All the president was looking for how he wasxact, jeanl adams or william loyd garrison, the former our time seeking of corruption judy a little historyless sornings thank you. And we found out in phil rucker and carol stableook in stable genius that the president goes the sfretary state so weve got to get rid of the unfair practice act. We have to be able to bribe. This is the avenging angel of corruption. That no one has exploited. They love that act for every c. E. O. They dono want to. They love the law. Judy well, were learning more. And the book, youre rights getting a lot of attention. We look toe interviewing the authors in a few days. While all this is going don anwhile theres a contest for democratic nomination for president. We mention Iowa Caucuses cing up in just over two weeks. There was a among six of the democrats. What do we learn from the contest from this . What do we learn from the mpaigns . A strong biden performance in we e got through it. Thats not a high standard. But all he needed. [laughter] its like your first date. Oh, i g throu it. But so warren is not doing well in the polls. Yand so if look at just look at the iow, new hampshire, south carolina, the first four or five states, shes like fourth in almost all of them. And thats not good. So you think candidates you always think, ok, try something new. I thought she tried something with the sanders direct challenge. She was more aggressive on a lot issues. Shes making as good a case as she can make to beev relt in the top two or three. Judy what was your take . The only sense of urgency in that debate i thought in my candidates part was Elizabeth Warren. She realized where she s. And i think she baited him into the trap hours before. Got him on the stage. This is where she says that he told her few yea ago that he did not believe a woman could be elected president. E hn though in defense, he had urged her to run in 2016. And said he would support her if she did. But prior to his own running when she decided not to. So he obviously must have thought he tught a woman could win. She framed it well. Thatas it. What surprise med was joe bidensheeading in National Polls and nobody want w after him. Nobody wanted to bell that cat whatever phrase you want to use. He came out of it unscathed even though it was n a spectacular performance. You thought somebody would go after him . I thought buttigieg or klobachar. Klobachar was energetic or busy. Shead a rick perry moment when she forgo the name of her good friend the governor of kansas, laura. Ernie sanders has not changed. Amazon is not paying any taxes. But bernie you can count on bernie to deliver his message. And with six candidamas and e night the field really or so, its always in all of the the nonbiden candidates its in their interest to take onoe biden. You want to be the beneficiary not the assassin. I wonder if the final moment where she refused to shake bernie sanrs hand, Elizabeth Warren whether that was thought about in advance or as spontaneoment of anger, it became to tell vision moment of the whole debate. Thiis after the debate was over. She walked over. He extended his hd. She didnt accept it. But then later on the microphone you lled me aiar on national television. Thats right. But just quickly, david to get to the point, she was the dispute between she and bernien s is over whether a woman can be elected president are we still havusing thaton . David yeah, i think its a little a, Bernie Sanders is saying it. B, i dontbelieve he believes that. Its picking up on an issue as an atempt to cast him aside. I think his record is oneecf re toward women. It is still an open question. I dont think judy whether a woman can be elected president. Jack kennedy had to win the primary in virginia which was 97 noncatholic to prove that a catholic was electable or at least nominateable in 1960s, some 32 years later. Hillary clinton raised the t doubt people dont want to say it openly whether a woman and ey speciaainst donald trump judy why . Alpha male and is going to be tough enough to take them on. I think tt is the lingering doubtn some democrats minds. Its in a doubt but itsec prng an ugly thing to people that you dont know. I agree. And eve time the american allow a catholic or a black guy and Hillary Clinton lost the electoral vote bling i dont ink it was because she was a woman. Its because of other things. Ju i dont think any of these womens are shrinking. Viole no. I would call them a rose. Ju well, i dont know what name they would just quickly, 30 seconds, michael bloomberg, almost 200 million in ads. Hes spending a lot of money. I saw hes fifth in some national peolls. A gift. Hes a gift. Judy, i mean, he bought a 10 million spot for the super bowl. Donald trump responded by na trump is terrified of michael bloomberg. Hes doing a Great Service to the country. He will not be the nominee. Judy we will get to expand on that next friday. Mark shields. David brooks. Thank you, both. Judyow, celebrating the sound of southern rock. A new effor to restore the place that helped create it. Jeffrey brown visits maicon,o georr american creator series and prt of our ongoing parts and cultural coverage, can vafments ans. By dreams a classic song the rock era. She was made famous by the almond brothers band. And per formed at maicon City Auditorium from micians then and nows part of a celebration that looked both to the past an the future. Yboard playerhuck levell help put together this concert. Veling the world for decades as music directors for the rolling stones. But he lives on tree farm near here. Of the almond brothers band. Er its intimate. And itha reminded me thatt was one of the cool things about it because you were tied, you were there together with your fellow musician when you were working. He oen record here at capry corndi s, newly restored their former glory. Y memories are so strong of making great mue six in this room nd so many other mue sixes would great music in this room and so many musicians would describe it that way. And that magical feeling when youre cutting a song that this has the feeling of being a great hit. And weve cut a lot of great nits this room. The story begins earlier with a local singer that became an international serstar otis redding, a long with his manager phil walden, he dream offend billing a mousseus al hub here in maicon. I think hison came from deep with the soul. Today his daughter t runs Otis Redding Foundation which offers music educati lessons to children. This was going to be whereule be able to be home and reco and be able to go back to his ranch and fish and hunt and swim and bring other artists to man and really catapult macon to this souci thats so s to our community. That dream ended when otis reddi died in plane crash at ge 26 in 1967. But two years later, phil walden and hisrotherlan launched capricorn records, it would become home to a soulful, soutrn rock with barney bramlet, barney bishop. There were 10 years of hits. Capricorn ended up in bankruptcy. The studio building wasan abned and fell into disrepair. Now, its bac with a performance by jimmy hl former singer for wet willy another capricord. B in a grand opening in december check out the facilities. Nce to a developer had bought the buildis as part of a growing downtown rens sans here of including new apartments nd then donated the studio buildings to maconbased mercer university. Id without funders including Knight Foundation for the record a newshour underwriter, mercer has turned the space now called mercer music and capricorn into a local incubators for musicians. This project will propel t renaissance bill underwood says he grew up loving southern rock, but this ils abo something what does mercer get out of this . Mercer gets a vibra community. One thing i learned is that dying decaying communities are not attractive to people. The more vibrant a eiting your community is, the better able you are to attract talented faculty, talent students and staff. So anything thats good for this region is good for our so five, 10 years down the road, what do you see . I sees l of creative tattoos and nose rings running all over downtown macon. That sounds good to you . [laughter] yes. As long as not my daughter. Macon becomes a hot spot with a s restoreddio serving as an anchor. That would suit 20yearold Maggie Renfroe who grew up here before going to nashville its the history and the sic he in macon continues to grow. Next thing we know our labels pops up here, i would bershe person to come back here and show nashville and show l. At and new yort macon really could be a spot where its a music hall. I asked carla which she hopes to see in macon in the next few years. The next oti reing. Thats no little thing. But you knowt . W its possible. They have everything they need right here to make it happen. Great engineer. Great recording room. Theres no reason whyt i cant happen. And why not . All it takes is some hard work, coitment and support, and as the great otis redding song tells us sang by taj mahal a little respect. Im Jeffrey Brown in macon, georgia. G judy somat news for that southern city. Tomorrows edition of pbs newshour weekend examines the epidemic facingtalian olive trees. And we wille back right here on monday on the eve of opening arguments in the historic impeachment trial thats the newshour for tonight. Im judy woodruf have a great weekend. And good night. Major fundi for the pbs newshour has been provided by fidelity investments. Bnsf railway. Consumer cellular. American cruise lines. The william and flora hewlett foundation,dvancing ideas and pporting institutions to support a better world at hewlett. Org. Supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the worlds most pressing problems. Skullfoundation. Org. An with the ongoing support of these institutions. And friends of the newshour. Possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs ation from viewers like you. Thank you. This is pbs newshour west from weta stuasos inngton and from our bureau at the walteroo cronkite sch of journalism at Arizona State university. Tonight on a kqed newsroom. Articles of impeachment is sent to the senate. There ll be a trial for President Trump and about the fairness on capitol hill. A new podcast about the experiences anstruggles that shape one of californias most iconic leaders. It is the eve of Martin Luther king day. Good evening and welcome to we begin withe impeachment of President Trump in the senate