By mof america designing customized individual and Group Retirement products. Thats why were your c retiremepany. Additional support has been provided by and by the corporation for public broadcasting. A private corporation funded by the americd people. Contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thanyou. From the tisch wnet studios at lincoln ceer in new york, hari sreenivasan. Sreenivasan good eveng and thanks for joining us. Two mass murders one in el paso, xas, the second in dayton, ohio within hours of each other. 29 people are confirmed dead. Dozens are still hospitalized. The victims range in age fro toddlers to people in their 80s. Grieving communities built memorials as police continued their investigations. President trump ordered flags to be flown at half staff across the country through gust 8. Late this afternoon, mr. Trump tweeted from his new Jersey Golf Club where he spent the weekend that, quote,. Melania and i are prayinfor all those impacted by this unspeakable act of evil the latest shooting was in dayton, ohio, at about 1 00 a. M. Today, when a gunman cing multiple ammunition magazines and wearing body armor opened fire in a popular entertainment district. He killed nine people andun d more than two dozen others in less than a minute. Police on patrol killed spe t, identified this afternoon as 24yearold connor betts. In el paso, texas, f prosecutors are calling yesterdays shooting at a Shopping Center and waan act of domestic terrorism. State Officials Say they will 2seek the Death Penalty f yearold patrick wood crusius, who surrendered at the scene. We will devote our entire broadcast to these Mass Shootings. Newshour weekends Megan Thompson begins our coverage with theatest out of dayton, ohio. Reporter gunfire broke out early this morni in the oregon district of downtown dayton, ohio, an area full of popular bars and restaurants. Around 1 00 a. M. Local time, a gunman began firing outside a bar, killing nine and wounding 27. According to local officials, the assailant used a high caliber rifle and was wearing body armor and a face mask. Jusboom boom boom boom boom boom, rapid. You could tell theres a big gun, youre not going to get those from no handgun. Youre not. Reporter Police Officers on regular patrol arrived on theic scene y, where they shot and killed the suspect. Nan whaley is the mayor of dayton. Dayton police were able to stop the shooter in, in less than a minute with nine, ten fatalities, one including the ooter. So, really, i just feel ourselves incredibly grateful for the heroic actions for the Police Department who were able to do this. Reporter the city of daytone todaased the names of the victims, who are mostly in their 20s and 30s. Etlice confirmed one of the victims, megan b, is the sister of the alleged shooter. In bellbrook, ohda, a suburb of on, Law Enforcement conducted a searci of a home ased with the suspect. Meanwhile, a vigil was held in daytono mourn the victims. Mayor nan whaley told newshour another vigil is planned for 8 00. M. Tonight. Our community has amazing grit and resiliey and we always come together through tragedy and thats whats beenzi most a about our city, and i think that will happen again tonight because we know, peopl this is a closeknit community. People will know the loved onese who have p e sreenivasan for more on the investigation and ctims in ohio, jim bebbington, editor of the dayton daily news, joins us now via skype. It was a group that included thehooters sister. That was a new revelation just a short while ago, so wre looking into Family Dynamics and family issues as to whether that played any role. E hers are a very Cross Section of dateen dayton. The majority of vicertimse africanamerican but there were white victims as well. It was a group that locally i would have thought would be ari typical di crowd on a sidewalk on a saturday night. Nawaz what about all the people sreenivasan what about all the people taken to the hospitals . We heard a numb of them had already been discharged . Correct, one person was described as being in Critical Condition and needing to go into surgery, and many people were discharged, already, by the time they gave any informatiout with everything from shooting wounds to sprained ankles an ists from the chaos of esaping. Sreenivasan s a tremendous amount of carnage in a minute, if thats how long it took police to respond. Absolutely. It is something we are also trying to piece together. The videos weve seen, weve seen some surveillance individual goes from neighboring facilitiesr bars that had their own cameras out front, and it absolutely it doesnt even looks like it takes a minute. Looks like it takes 30 seconds from the videos that ive seen,pray ago crowd, people running, going down, and thenhe video thatve seen in particular, things calm down almost immediately. Sreenivasan is there anything more about the motivations of the person who did this thats becoming any clearer now . A well, we know 24 years old, gentleman who grew up in our area. We have been looking to speak to anyone who knew him growing up, mining social media. The are some images that, if they are him, show, when he was a young teenager, a predilection towards certainly violent language that he liked to take pictures of, sketchings into notebooks at he would then share on social media. So thais what were seeing. Sreenivasan any sort of membership in any oranations . Nowadays people are interested in messageboard posthigs, an like that with this shooter like the one in el paso who decided to perhaps Law Enforcement officials are still connecting the dots there . Again, i wish we knew. We have not found anything to that effect. There are some repo some family dynamic problems that do go back many years, and, so, that is actually part of our most focus right now. Sreenivasan and what about the district now . Are people back there . Are businesses ill open . Have they stayed closed through the weekend . Is it still an active crime scene . It is an active crime scene. There is an evening vigil, atwh h point the crime tape will be taken up. The bars and restaurants in the area, some are open this afternoon, the ones that are a block or two away from th scene. Sreenivasan editor of the dayton, ohio, jim bebbington, ining us live via skype from dayton, thank you so much. Thank you. Sreenivasan the first of this weekends attacks beganef yesterday juste 11 00 a. M. In el paso. Today the suspect in that mass killing is in jail and Authorities Say he is answering their questions. Megan thompson has the latest on thatvictims and what happene a busy Shopping Center and walmart in the texas border city. Reporter in el paso, texas, today, the investigati continued into yesterdays mass shooting. There, a gunman opened fire just after 10 30 a. M. Local time in a busy Commercial Area filled wi saturdaymorning shoppers. 20 people were killed and at least 26 were wounded. Today f. B. I. Agents checked cars in the parking lot outside the walmart where the massacre took place. And people placed flowers on the road nearby in memory of the victims. Law enforcement searched a home associated with the suspectedin shootellen, texas, a suburb of dallas about 650 miles from el paso. The suspect was apprehended yesterday near the scene. John bash, u. S. Attorney for the Western District of texas, said that federal officials are eating the el paso shooting as a case of domestic terrorism. And were going to do what we do to terrorists in this country, which is to deliver swift and certain justice. Reporter meanwhile, stateas officials in tnnounced they will file capital murdert charges agaie suspect. I can tell you from the outset, the state charge is capital murder, so he is eligible for the Death Penalty, we will seek the Death Penalty. Reporter officials are trying to determine if an anti immigrant manifesto postedn an extremist website minutes before the shooting started, was written by the alleged shooter, a 21yearold white man. The posting spoke of aanic invasion of the u. S. , and expressed support for the gunman in christchurch, new zealand, who killed 51 people in march. El paso sits right on the u. S. Border with mexico. A majority of its nearly 700,000 residents are hispanic and the city has seen an influx of a grants from central amer recent months. Several mexican citizens are believed to be among the dead and wounded. Last night, a vigil was held in ciudad juarez, just across the border from el paso. Th sreenivasan for more o texas mass killing and the communitys response today, Texas Tribune aguilar joins us now via skype from el paso. Whats the latest we have on tht ination . Well, earlier this morning, the District Attorneys Office here in paso county confirmed that they will seek capital murder charges and the Death Penalty. An thats going to go on concurrently with a federal investigation into possible domestic terrorism and hate crime charges. Have the u. S. Attorney f the Western District of texas, as well as the special agent in charge of e El Paso Office th confirming the fact that theyre investigating potential leads to see if there y federal gun charges that could berought as well, which al carries a penalty of death from what i understand. So these are concurrent investigations so i mean, state or federal level, theyre looking to throw the book at this guy wnever they can. Sreenivasan yeah, so have they connectedhe online postings to this individual . Theyre very careful in their wording. They say that they have a manifesto. Theyre reviewing it. They just needo confirm that he is, in fact, the author or the person that published this. Theres been seral reports confirming this, but the f. B. I. And the u. S. Attorney, theyre leaning towards that but theyre still very, very careful their wording. They dont want to jeopardize the investigation. El paso Police Department chief greg allen said, look, you know, as much as whats going on right now, and people are so upset and enraged, the alleged shooter still has a right to a fair trial. So i think theyre being veryfu cain their wording so as not jeopardize anything in the investigation, according to ayem. Sreenivasan and what about the community right now . I mean, what about the victims . Is the any more information on who suffered through this . We had reports that i think everybody else has. There were 20 confirmed fatalities, which is what the governor confirmed yesterday, more but what the el paso Police Department said on saturday isat hat they still were unable to account for people haat maybe drove themselves to the hospital socould add to the list of the people that are wounded. And of the 13 that wken to one hospital on saturday, one succumbed to his or her inries. Theres also reports from the Mexican Federal authorities, including the president , lopez obrador, that there are a numbet of mexicannals that were also killed in yesterdays attack. So its, you kno theres a lot of hurdles to go through with respect to consulates and International Policies and legalese to confirm the amount, but thats also something that people are investigating. But with respect to the community, people are lining up to donate blood. Theyre taking donations, they are standing strong. But its definitely a community thats reeling, as are people ia on, ohio, as are people, you know, where this happens seems like every month now. Sreenivasan yeah, is there. Yesterday i heard reports thathere were some people who were reluctant to go to the hospital, either for themselves or to visit their relatives because they were concerned about immigration raids. Well, federal Law Enforcement said that that theyre not going to do Enforcement Actions during this time, which is e see during hurricanes or other disasters that affect a lot of people. We see this all the time in texas, especially after the state passed senate bill four,ic is a crackdown on illegal immigration, or unauthorized immigration. It doesnt necessarily have to deal with the tragedy. I mean, weve had people that have been on the books sayingy that t scared to go to the Doctors Office to the hospital for the last two years so in a situatke this, its helpful, its reassuring that the federal government is on the table sang, look, were not going to crack down on any enforcement measures right now. We want everody to be safe. T whether that trickles down to the people that could be affected, um, you know, i cant speak foeverybody, but im sure theres still that fear factor, even in situations like this. Sreenivasan all right, juli aguilar joining us via skype from el paso. Thanks so much. Thank you. Sreenivasan for the latest developments on this weekends Mass Shootings visit pbs. Org newshour sreenivasan the shooters behind these events often leav socalled manifestos hate filled online postings they want the public and authorities to find. Weve seen it after the shooting in christchurch, the synagogue shootings in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, and poway, california, and even yesterday in el paso, texas. They appear on wellknown forums and spread rapidly ithe aftermath of the murders. New york times opinionwriter atlarge Charlie Warzel covers Information Technology and he joins us now via skype from missoula, montana. Is this kind of the new thing that they have to do to have legitimacy in the communities that they spring from . Well, it certainly seems that, since christchurc hieres been a noticeable uptick in community, especially in h. N. , it includes White Nationalists. Obviously, weve seen there are a number of people who are ver vulnerable to all this goading and persuasion and conns talk constant talking about xtremisme its jumping off of the internet and into real life with greater frequency. How is that radicalization happening in these forums . Its difficult to get a sense of what these communitiesre, but really in the past two years, there has been a dialing up of the rhetoric. Theres a debate in the country what were seeing with Donald Trumps racist comments. The real moment that seemed to change things things in these forums was the chrrcistc shooting in march. After that, i wet to h. N. On a random day in may ani saw a detailed post from an ano, anonymous shooter about the best way to stage a mass shooting, the best way to get maximum o amou kills and the ideology, it was basically a ndbook for terrorism. What is most concerning aboute three shootings, christchurch, poway and el paso being connected to this message board h. N. Is this commity is gamefying terrorism. Sreenivasan what does the mean, a gamefication going on on these boards. After chrrch, there was a whole bunch of outpouring of people saying this shooter got a highumber of kills, basically like something in a video game, that they got a high score. In h. N. , people started referring to thisigs a score, who can top the high score. And, so, now,hen these acts of violence happen, people on thess eboards are essentially just waiting to see whether or not they have beaten the last active terrorist, whether or not theyve gotten the high score and, you know, theres glorifying those who do, there ares chastising those who dont, calling them losers. Its really and truly become this theres no other way to say it, this gmefication, theres this notion that you can go out and basically play to wn some grim sreenivasan here a companies that host these forums, that make money off these forums. Why does the marketplace not correct for that . Is there no way to disincentivize the creation of spaces where thiekind of hat can fester . This is really difficult because i think theres a real moral question these Companies Need to weigh, but, at the same time, these communities are very resilient. They have been kicked off of h. N. Was really pop popularized by another platform that went to h. N. Its a very difficult problem. Of course, you havspeech issues. I think we need to have a very broad conversation that includes the government, that includes Law Enforcement about what to do with a community th is essentially and technology compies that is esentially an incubator forerrorism, as one of my peers at nbc said this web site has a body count associated with it and i think we need to rec within that and eat it as an emergency. Sreenivasan Charlie Warzel, live fro missoula, montana today, thanks so much. Thanks. Sreenivasan what we know about the killers in severalsh recent mastings in america is that many share a white supremacist ideology. Joan donovan studies this hatey filled commund has written a guide for journalists who cover it. Shes the director of the nd social change Research Project at Harvard Universitys kennedy shorenstein center, and she joins us now frs. West newton, massachuse racism, White Supremacy has existed alst as long as this entire country has. So whats different about it now . One of the things that we try to study when we look at these groups is the wain which they communicate both internally and then to the public. And, obviously, withnternet technologies, theres been a lot more oortunity for White Supremacists to directly reach the public with their messaging. And so right now what were up against isnt just that reporters need to be more careful about how they report on these, um, white supremacist violent events, but also we have to start to take inton consideratw the platforms and social media are circulating the messages of these whitepr acists as a rationale for the attacks. Sreenivasan are thople trying to frame their own narratives by throwing the words in there that journalists end up using . Yes, and its done intentionally. This is a bit of an artifact of what we might call memetic culture online, right . The idea that memes carry the tale. And so viral slogans, pieces ofa you knowe subcultural language. Even defining the difference between a White Supremacists and a White Nationalist these are the kinds of messages that people who commit these attacks are trying to spread into the puic. And so when they make reference to certain books like we saw in the gioy case, that is an attempt to get jrnalists to go deeper into really do the work of contextualizinthe theories and spreading them. Yeah, i think its really important journalists cover these stories. You have communities of people who are wondering if there is other, you kno causes of the violence, theyre wondering if there are other perpetrators, theyre looking for ins if they should stay home. You know, these things are really important that journalists report on. But if you dont know a certain set of words or a set of key words i of key words, you find yourself as a journalist starting to chase little pieces of information through what we might call the rabbit holes of the internet, be cognizant that this is probably not the lead. Ob this is ly not the story that the audience needs to hear right away. But it might be something that you put in a pipeline for a few weeks down the road, where you could then have a much more long form and impactful conversation about that sreenivasu know, you pointed out that the terms that arnow in our lexicon alt right, or alternativeright, White Nationalist. How are l of these different r an Old Fashioned idea of White Supremacistscist . Yeah, theres been a few different times in theistory of White Supremacists, especially if you study theti reship between the k. K. K. And journalists, where White Supremacists realize that the journalists were people they needed to cultivate. And part of that was continually rebranding how their movement saw themselves. In the late 60s, they were calling themselves the american nazi movement. Then they switched to talkingab t a white power movement. As weve uncovered what these new terms really mean, they shed them and they move on to the next set of terminologies so that they can stay in the public eye and continue to shape the way in which we talk about specific racialized issues. Sreenivasan finally, then, with the ideology of White Supremacy, match those criteria that the government holds up to be terrorism. Well, its. Theres a. Several complicated laws around when we would or if we shouldgs label thomestic terrorism. But i do think that therr definition of ism that that we follow has to do with if its meant to cause pu terror, right . If, if the event is meant to cae chaos and, of course, these situations where you have shootingthat are being carried out against targeted groups, minoritized groups, but that the killing is indiscriminate in the sense that it doesnt target an individual, then i think that thesare terrorist events. Sreenivasan all right. Joan donovan from harvards nnedy shorenstein center, thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you. Sreenivasan finally tonight, the mass killings in el paso and dayton were not the only shootings in the u. S. Yesterday. Gunfire in chicago wounded seven peop standing in a park arou 1 00 a. M. Today. In a second shooting in that city around 3 30 a. M. , four others were wounded and one man died. Updating the news from dayton, io, where nine people were killed and 26 others wounded in a shooting that lasted less than one minute. At 4 00 p. M. Eastern time today, dayton officials releaw details about the shooter who was killed by police, and said that while they still have not determined a motive gsr the killthey do not have evidence that it was a bias crime. At the news conference, the police chief also re 911 calls and video from the shooting. gunfire re ivasan we will have sreenivasan we will have more updates on our website, www. Pbs. Org newshour and tomorrow on newshour. Thats all for this edition of s newshour weekend. Im hari sreenivasan. Thanks for watching. Have a good night. Captioning sponsored by wnet captioned by Media Access Group at wgbhor access. Wgb pbs newshour weekend is made possible by bernard and irene schwartz. Sue and Edgar Wachenheim iii. The cheryl and Philip Milstein family. The j. P. B. Foundation. Rosalind p. Walter, in memory of george oneil. Barbara hope zuckerberg. Meorporate funding is provided by mutual ofca designing customized individual and Group Retirement products. 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