Transcripts For KQED Frontline 20171012

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The president s executive order today calls for reviewing the Clean Power Plan. According to epa administrator scott pruitt, the president s order will replace the obama plan with a progrowth approach to regulation. applause narrator two months after he became president , donald trump arrived at the Environmental Protection agency for a ceremony unlike anything the agency had ever seen. I want to acknowledge the truly amazing people behind me on this stage, our incredible coal miners. Narrator he was there to fulfill a Campaign Promise. applause we love our coal miners. Narrator . To begin undoing one of president obamas signature achievements in the fight against Climate Change the Clean Power Plan. You know what was most awkward about watching the signing of that executive order was the fact that they were doing it at epa. To me it was not just a signal to his base, but a real shot across the bow to the agency itself. And, uh. And it was. It was disturbing. The miners told me about the attacks on their jobs and their livelihoods. They told me about the efforts to shut down their mines, their communities, and their very way of life. I made them this promise we will put our miners back to work. Mr. Trump, he acknowledged me in the audience. And if you look at the press releases on it, the back of my bald head is in. In the pictures. The notion that bob murray of murray coal was at the epa headquarters celebrating action by the epa was like so completely fiction. My administration is putting an end to the war on coal. I would say that people were. Were really devastated by that. That it was considered to be, really, an open slap in our face. What it conveyed is, this is a hostile takeover. You, the scientists and lawyers and engineers at the agency, are no longer valued. This is a political operation. Narrator it was a victory for scott pruitt, the president s new epa administrator. For years, hed been leading the fight against environmental regulations from washington, like the Clean Power Plan. Ready . Were ready, ready to go. Were ready. In working for both bushes and for clinton and obama, i can say no Previous Administration has done what the Trump Administration is doing at epa now. applause there is a clear and present danger to Public Health and safety in this country, that the repeals this administration is going to undertake are going to go forward. Theyre not going to slow down. applause it was eight years of pure hell under the Democrat Party and obama. But we won its a wonderful victory. Its wednesday, april 22, 2009. Good morning and happy earth day today. Narrator on earth day 2009, another new president laid out his agenda for the environment. The president spends this earth day in iowa today touting his energy plan and the creation of green jobs. Narrator it, too, was a sharp break from his predecessors. Theres been some debate about this whole Climate Change issue. But its serious. Candidate obama had campaigned on the promise of clean energy, and that this could be an economic engine. And that was something that the administration had its eye on from the get go. Theres no question that we have to regulate Carbon Pollution in some way. The only question is how we do it. The focus initially was lets try to get something done nationally through congress. I believe the best way to do it is through legislation that places a marketbased cap on these kinds of emissions. And, two, was to say lets reorient all of the federal agencies around taking seriously the threats of Climate Change and taking seriously the threats of air pollution and water pollution. Narrator obamas epa went to work, implementing a series of antipollution rules that had been mandated by the courts but neglected by Previous Administrations. When i got to epa as the assistant administrator, there were a lot of rules right out of the gate. We had a number of targets, if you will, and its called pollution. Pollution in the air, pollution in the water, polluting of the land. We had a lot of rules that would potentially impact the Energy Sector as a whole. Narrator the idea was not just to clean up pollution, but steer the nation toward cleaner energy like wind and solar and cut emissions from fossil fuels that scientists agree are driving Climate Change. The fossil industry was, i think, rightly nervous. And so, they started immediately going out of the gate, calling it a trainwreck. That the administration was going to take all these actions, and it was going to shut down the energy system, double the cost, retire facilities. Its a bad thing to do for the country, for the economy. Were having a hard time keeping up with demand with. With the current regulatory system, the. All the Environmental Constraints and permitting problems. Narrator one of the most vocal critics of the obama epa was myron ebell of the competitive enterprise institute, a free market think tank. Look, were not against all regulation. We think that theres far too much regulation. Its far too heavyhanded. Its far too expensive. I want to talk about Global Warming for a minute. Narrator ebell frequently defended the fossil fuel industry and rejected the threat of Climate Change. I think that shows the models are phony. Narrator he staked out an extreme position, but other skepticism. Es also expressed if there is a Global Warming problem, the way a lot of conservatives think about this issue is, maybe it is and maybe it isnt a problem. And maybe it will have high costs and maybe it wont. But i know what the cost will be of constraining the market, and taxing the market and restraining fossil fuel production. And since i know that that price will be paid, i am opposed to action until there is a nearcertainty that Climate Change is going to be a significant worry in my lifetime. Thanks for regulating, epa. Its gonna cost me 200 to fill up my tank. Narrator epas critics began running attack ads in oil and Gas Producing states. Thanks to your nutty Global Warming regulations, every american may be stuck in a ridiculous car like this. Huh . Narrator many were produced by americans for prosperity, an influential conservative group founded by billionaires charles and david koch. Much of the kochs fortune came from oil and gas and they would spent millions opposing obamas initiatives. We envisioned a Mass Movement of hundreds of thousands of american citizens from all walks of life, standing up and fighting for the economic freedoms that made our nation the most Prosperous Society in history, and thats exactly what americans for prosperity is doing. applause what theyve been arguing is that the Environmental Movement is just something that. That serves the sort of superrich. Its kind of like a project of the elites and that any kind of regulations are gonna hurt poor people. Hey there. Im carlton, the wealthy ecohypocrite. I inherited my money and attended fancy schools. I own three homes and five cars but always talk with my rich friends about saving the planet, and i Want Congress to spend billions on programs in the name of Global Warming and green energy, even if it causes massive unemployment, Higher Energy bills, and digs people like you deeper into the recession. It was really an all out attack on the administration. It did start feeding this war on coal scenario. Whose coal . Our coal whose jobs . Our jobs we have come here to stand up for American Workers and the american dream. I think a lot of people in rural america, the places where people make stuff, dig up stuff, and grow stuff for a living, those people came to feel that the federal government is actually waging war on them, and primarily from the Environment Protection agency. American jobs are regulated out of existence in the name of environmental stewardship. There was no question that communities revolving around the coal Mining Industry would be disadvantaged. But that shift started in the 80s. Its not epa. Its the fact that automation has taken away a lot of those jobs, and natural gas has virtually destroyed the industry because its a lot cheaper. It gives you a taste for how disconnected from reality a lot of these conservative narratives really are. Lets hear it. Lets let them hear freedom ring in this country. Narrator meanwhile, a wave of anger was beginning to sweep the nation, not just against the epa, but all of washington. The tea party. Tea parties all across the nation are giving people the opportunity to sound off about big government. Were losing our freedoms little by little every day. Including right here in oklahoma. Narrator in oklahoma the resentment was particularly strong. Not only had obama lost every county in 2008, but the states economy is heavily dependent on fossil fuel production. One out of seven jobs in oklahoma are related to oil and gas directly. 22 of our State Government revenue comes from oil and gas. I mean, its a big part of who we are as a state. Narrator in Oklahoma City, the basketball arena is named after chesapeake energy, and the skyline is dominated by oil company headquarters. The devon tower, designed to hold up to 3,000 devon employees. At over 900, feet it will be the tallest building in oklahoma. Narrator but with the epa aggresively pursuing a clean agenda, all of that seemed suddenly at risk. Oklahoma stands. Is a little unique, uh, when it comes to global Climate Change because ifif youre going to cost your friends and neighbors their jobs, you want to be damn certain youre right. I think much of Middle America gets concerned that the federal government will regulate us for the benefit of the People Living on the coasts. Seems to me like our government has gotten completely out of control. Uh, it appears that they are becoming our rulers instead of representatives. You could just see the angst in peoples eyes. Uh, and they wanted somebody to do something about it. Ladies and gentlemen, the next attorney general, scott pruitt narrator that somebody would be scott pruitt. Well, thats a great introduction. Narrator a former state senator and Minor League Baseball team owner running a very Unconventional Campaign for state attorney general. Theres a mentality that comes out of washington that says that they know best, that they want to run every aspect of our life, that they want to manage our life. They think theyre smarter than we are, and they want to tell us what to do in every aspect. And i want to say to you, this movement that were about is bigger than a party. Our opponent at the time was selling the traditional attorney general message. And that was just criminal justice. Im scott pruitt. Im running for attorney general. Narrator pruitts campaign was different. Rather than just pledging to fight crime, he was pledging to fight washington. Heres the truth. I will fight the Obama Administration. Im scott pruitt. I ask for your vote. The congressmen arent going to do anything about it. Theyre not holding the agencies at the federal level accountable. By gosh, we will. Number one, im going to establish an office of federalism internal to the ags office. It will. It will be an office or a division where i will retain attorneys that will wake up each day and go bed each night with one thought in mind how do we make your constitutional liberties and freedoms real against washingtons encroachment . I mean, it. It was a unique idea at the time. Narrator the election was a landslide. We know its a big night. Oklahomans have sent a very clear message that they want an advocate in the Attorney Generals Office to make sure that we get means to the constitution, that as washington, dc, has passed items like obamacare, the epas overreach, they want an advocate in the courts to make sure that we protect their freedoms. And im looking forward to being that advocate. Well, republicans swept statewide races here in oklahoma last night. And it was a big night for republicans across the nation. Narrator pruitts victory coincided with the nationwide Tea Party Wave that put the republicans in the control of the house. Angry voters flock to the gop, which will take control of the house of representatives. Narrator the election was also a victory for the fossil fuel industry, and for the koch brothers. Theyd backed pruitt and groups theyd funded, including americans for prosperity, spent close to 20 million to help elect a republican majority. Mr. Koch, are you proud of the Tea Party Movement and what theyve achieved in the past year or two . Theres some extremists there, but the rank and file are just normal people like us. And i admire them. Its probably the best grassroots uprising since 1776 in my opinion. Narrator americans for prosperity had sought a commitment from candidates. They had pushed a pledge for candidates who were running. To get their money, these candidates had to pledge to do nothing about Global Warming that would cost a cent. It was Something Like 156 members of congress signed this pledge. Every republican who had talked about the need to address Climate Action found Something Else to talk about. Narrator there was now little chance obama could get congress to act on Climate Change. We were on our heels politically and in a situation where it was difficult to drive a proactive agenda around Climate Change, and i think that was a source of constant frustration for the president. Narrator but obamas epa didnt let up. It continued to pressure the fossil fuel industry with antipollution regulations. In oklahoma, scott pruitt was keeping tabs. We had an hour and a half each and every day to and from the office where hes reading rules that are being issued by the federal agencies and it just pained him. Narrator pruitt wasted no time delivering on his Campaign Promise to fight washington. He established what he called a federalism unit, a special team that would fight federal rules imposed on oklahoma. At the same time, he dismantled an Environmental Protection unit his democratic predecessor had created. For me, it was a sad thing to watch, the dissolving of these units. My successor spent his time and his federalism unit attacking rules and regulations instead of enforcing them. New at 5, more oklahomans could lose their jobs altogether if the epa forces the states Major Power Companies to make some costly changes. Narrator at the time, oklahomas Largest Power Company was suing the epa, claiming it had overreached its authority when it imposed an expensive plan to reduce emissions from burning coal. Overreach really was when epa decided to usurp the states authority and substitute its own judgment for a decision that the state made. Scott, welcome to the show. Well, its good to be here. Thanks for the opportunity. Narrator pruitt filed suit and joined the companys case. The epa the First Quarter this year said we dont like your plan and were kicking it out, and theyre in the process of forcing upon the state of oklahoma something called a federal implementation plan, which i think is outside the statutory obligation or authority they had in the clean air act. Narrator pruitt had backed a more lenient state plan to reduce emissions that was favored by the company. We found that he was aligned with our position with regards to pushing back and making sure that the state retained the authority to do what it thought was best. Narrator oklahomas oil and Gas Companies were also feeling pressure from the epa, and looking for support. What we felt like was epa had far exceeded its authority. Whenever you have an agency like that thats starting to move into an industry where they dont know as much about it, i think theres always that, uh, concern. Lack of understanding, of familiarity. There were real environmental problems that we were dealing with. It was sometimes hard for the states to properly enforce the law. People in the oil and gas industry found it really unusual that someone from the epa was actually out there enforcing the law, taking samples, taking pictures, writing citations. They really saw the new administration as something new, as potentially a major threat. Narrator scott pruitt saw himself as their defender. They dont want us burning what . Fossil fuels. The epa has an antifossil fuel agenda. Its not anticoal, its not antinatural gas, its antifossil fuels, period. I think it fit with the role of him, uh, doing what he could as attorney general to make sure that oklahomas, uh, businesses and citizens were protected from any outside threat, so to speak. Narrator with pruitt on their side, the big oil and Gas Companies were also looking beyond oklahoma for other ags to push back against the epa. They were donating to a group called raga, the Republican Attorneys general association. There were hundreds of thousands of dollars that started to come in. In president ial politics, thats not a great deal of money. For attorney generals, it is a considerable sum. But the real story is, why is the Energy Sector donating so much money . What is it they are buying . Narrator New York Times reporter eric lipton began digging into the relationship between corporations and attorneys general. He showed up at a raga fundraiser. I just walked in unannounced and was never asked who i was or why i was there and saw lobbyists who were writing checks right in front of me and handing the checks to the attorneys general and to their aides. And they were just walking from room to room, the lobbyists. I was just amazed by how much of a kind of a Factory Assembly line the whole thing was and how institutionalized it had become and, again, that this involved law. The top Law Enforcement officials from each of the states. I was really startled by it. So, thank you for the opportunity to be with you today. Narrator scott pruitt was a star at raga and served two terms as chairman. His term kind of coincided with that upsurge in the rise of corporate influence. He certainly didnt cause it. But he benefitted from it and in his participation with raga, he encouraged it. Narrator lipton wanted to know more about the extent of pruitts relationship with the Energy Industry. Its about making sure that the checks and balances are honored. Narrator so he filed a public records request for his emails. It took months. It was not until i finally traveled to oklahoma that i got the documents. When i first got to his office, there were these large paintings on the wall. It just struck me like this was the real wild west, that we will dispense our own justice. And his Public Information officer comes over with this huge stack of documents with a rubber band around it like, you know, a couple feet worth of, of printed out paper, no electronic copy and i kept seeing Devon Energys logo in the emails. And all kinds of requests for meetings with him and requests for him to send letters and complaints about various obama rules. Narrator lipton found a letter that pruitt had written to the epa disputing the Science Behind a proposal to limit methane emissions from oil and gas rigs. Then he noticed Something Else. What i discovered was that the letters that scott pruitt had written were identical copies in most cases of the draft letters that devon had sent him. He had taken those letters and simply put them on a stationary and sent them in as if they were essentially the state Law Enforcement official opinion. I was like, holy bleep . Narrator devon executives thanked pruitt for his help. It was not illegal. And i was just struck by, well, whose interest is he pursuing here . Is he really acting on behalf of the state residents or is he acting as an attorney for devon . They were paying, you know, indirectly in the form of Campaign Contributions large amounts of money to his cause and he was then taking actions that benefited their cause and that was disturbing to me. Narrator both devon and pruitt told lipton they did nothing improper. Liptons series would eventually win a pulitzer prize. What was the impact of that New York Times series here in oklahoma . The impact of that New York Times series was minimal in oklahoma. If anything, i think it probably helped him here. Because if youre fighting for oil and gas, youre fighting for oklahoma. And i think that was a real positive for scott. Narrator by 2012, pruitts reputation as a proindustry fighter was spreading. He caught the attention of andrew miller, a former Virginia Attorney general who was now representing southern company, a coal burning utility. Southern company was very concerned. Would it have to close certain coalfired facilities, etc. . So, it was important to maintain a line of communication with somebody who understood the problem. Narrator miller wrote to pruitt that he was worried about four more years under the obama epa. He urged him to team up with other ags and fossil fuel lobbyists to form a unified front against the president. Andy miller argued that they needed to create what he called a strike force that was gonna challenge the obama rules, particularly as they were going into the second term and that there was hell to pay for oil and gas industry, that they really needed to team up with the coal industry to fight back. Could you understand why someone might think of this as being somewhat unseemly that you have corporations and attorneys general partnering up on an action plan to fight federal environmental regulations . Not at all and the reason i say that is you have the sierra club partnering with attorneys general on the other side. So, its all part of the democratic process. It may be messy but its certainly not unseemly. I think you just have to accept that lobbying properly done in this country is what makes the wheels of government turn. Narrator miller suggested that pruitt organize a twoday meeting in Oklahoma City. It was called the summit on federalism and the future of fossil fuels. It was essentially a gathering of the most important brain trust the corporations, their lawyers, the lobbyists, and pruitt and the Republican Attorney generals that all came together and their strat. And they were there to figure out how do we stop the environmental rules . As i flew into Oklahoma City after devon energy had built its new structure there, uh, the sun was reflecting on the face of that pyramid and there was this burst of light coming from the pyramid, which i thought was very apt. I think it gave you the impression that energy was here to stay. The result of the summit was the strike force of litigation and general pruitt emerged as in effect the commander, the lawyerinchief for ags who were concerned about what epa was doing. Narrator with obama about to begin his second term, pruitt and the group were especially concerned about the president imposing action on Climate Change. Prophet jeremiah speaks to there being a cloud on the horizon no larger than a mans hand. And then that cloud turns into a terrible storm. Narrator four days after the summit in oklahoma, pruitt and his allies watched as president obama took the stage at his second inauguration. Their fears were coming true. Some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more powerful storms. If you go back and you look at that speech, you see a president speaking about Climate Change with a degree of precision and passion and power. We will respond to the threat of Climate Change, knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations. The sense of frustration around not being able to put enough priority on this in the first term was palpable. He was sending a signal that this was going to be the moment where he was going to put additional priority on that. Narrator but the Republicancontrolled Congress still wouldnt work with him on Climate Change. Barack obama taking Climate Change and making it, you know, calling it the greatest challenge or greatest crisis that faces the country or the world. I think people saw that as alarmism. That kind of extreme rhetoric i think only fuels, if you will. Excuse the expression, fuels the opposition that causes us to go to our poles a little bit. Narrator with the opposition digging in in washington and around the country, obama turned to Gina Mccarthy to lead the epa. The first thing he said to me was, gina, are you prepared to move forward on Climate Change . And i said, mr. President , i dont want the job unless were both committed to move forward. And absolutely. And it was the shortest conversation in human history. As ive said before, this is going to be a year of action. Narrator the president s team decided to make an end run around congress. We are not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that were providing americans the kind of help that they need. Ive got a pen and ive got a phone, and i can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward. When president obama said that hell take matters into his own hand with his pen and his phone, it was such a shot across the bow to the other side that i dont need you. Narrator and just as the Energy Industry had feared, it was obamas first target. Im directing the Environmental Protection agency to put an end to the limitless dumping of Carbon Pollution from our power plants, and complete new pollution standards for both new and existing power plants. Narrator by executive authority, the epa would begin developing the Clean Power Plan. It was the first time that this country was going to regulate Carbon Emissions from the Power Industry, and the Power Industry is the largest source of Carbon Emissions in this country. Can we imagine a more worthy goal . He just went ahead through executive order and instructions to the agency, go ahead and do what i want to have done without congressional endorsement. Narrator scott pruitt and his strike force had been watching closely. The constitution in the hands of this president is a very dangerous thing and he has demonstrated that many, many times. And as state attorneys general, we are responding. Narrator as obamas Clean Power Plan took shape, the attorneys general would challenge the epa in a barrage of lawsuits. I think its going to be a series of litigation that were involved in. I have six lawsuits just in georgia against the epa and im sure my fellow attorneys general have similar numbers of litigation. Narrator they tried to stop rules from mercury levels in the air, to agricultural waste in water. Different states were taking a lead on different pieces of litigation, and they were having these conference calls, which they would compare notes on, okay, this file has been filed in this federal court; this appeal is coming up; whos going to take the lead on this . Greg abbott in texas. I kid greg often that he has about 12 or 13 lawsuits against the epa. Were trying to catch up here in oklahoma. I was on the other side of these cases arguing on behalf of Public Health and a cleaner environment and a safer climate. What you saw from mr. Pruitt was a throw the kitchen sink set of arguments at epa to try not just to delay these standards or to improve these protections adopted epa, but to void them, to nullify them. Narrator pruitt would eventually challenge the obama epa 14 times, claiming the agency had reached beyond its authority. Most of the legal claims are still unresolved. Scotts a baseball player. Hes going to get up, keep swinging. If he thinks its the right thing to do, hes going to get up and keep swinging. Narrator pruitt swung hardest at the Clean Power Plan, which the epa finally announced in 2015. Hi, everyone. Im Gina Mccarthy, administrator of the United States Environmental Protection agency. I am so proud to let you know that the United States has just taken a big step forward on Climate Change. Narrator the plan called on states to reduce Carbon Emissions from fossil fuel power plants by the year 2030. It didnt require all coal and gas and oil to be phased out in the country. It didnt ban the use of fossil fuels. It didnt require any power stations in this country to retire. All it said was reduce your emissions by about 30 and well give you a couple decades to do it. The Clean Power Plan, if that is put into effect, youre going to have a significant increase in electric rates in this country. Youre gonna have a significant loss of jobs. Narrator the epa and some experts who analyzed the plan said it would end up creating jobs. But, fear still resonated. As did predictions that it would hasten the demise of the coal industry. It is a strategy way beyond coal companies. Of course its a human issue to me because my employees lives are being destroyed. Narrator on the day the plan was announced, pruitt and the other ags were meeting at the greenbriar resort in West Virginia with coal baron bob murray. Bob murray is a kind of elder statesman of the coal industry, and is convinced thatthat the Obama Administration is. Has a war on coal, and is hurting his employees, and hurting his company, and hurting his profits. And that day, he was in a private meeting with Republican Attorneys generals to discuss the Clean Power Plan and how they were going to challenge it. Narrator murray wanted pruitt and the others to join him in a lawsuit against the epa to stop the plan, claiming federal overreach. I gave them the work that we had done for the past two years. They listened intently. Narrator his position was that the plan would cost the coal industry billions, while doing little for the environment. And he rejected the overwhelming science that fossil fuel emissions were driving Climate Change. We dont have a Climate Change problem. It is not real and not scientifically based. Its a theology. Its politics. And its an agenda. They packed the u. S. Epa with radical environmentalists. Never created a job in their lives. Never produced anything for society, but sat there writing rules all day. I have nothing but contempt. And then they walk out and they announce after having a briefing with Murray Energy that theyre going to sue. Were involved with a number of states, West Virginia being our primary partner in challenging the lawfulness of the plan. As i indicated earlier, theyre its the last frontier for president obama. car horns honking narrator but obama had a larger agenda, a global agreement to reduce Carbon Emissions. With the Clean Power Plan, he hoped to persuade other countries to make similar commitments. That set off a breakneck set of diplomatic negotiations with the president very involved, flying to india, hosting the brazilians, trying to broker understandings with the mexicans and the canadians country after country, just trying to get everybody in the tent. Narrator in late 2015, the diplomacy paid off. In paris this morning, a potential landmark deal is being revealed on Climate Change. For the first time in history, 195 nations have come together to approve the first global agreement to limit Carbon Emissions. camera clicking ive come here personally to say that the United States of america not only recognizes our role in creating this problem, we embrace our responsibility to do something about it. Paris was an enormous success. I see no objections. The Paris Agreement is adopted. cheers and applause leaving paris, it felt like the vast majority of us were about 10,000 feet higher than the plane itself. It was such an elevating moment. Narrator but while obama and mccarthy were celebrating the Paris Agreement, scott pruitt and bob murray were still working to stop their climate agenda at home. Well, it looks like a heated battle is erupting between the Environmental Protection agency and the Supreme Court. Narrator less than two months later, the Supreme Court intervened in pruitt and murrays lawsuit against the Clean Power Plan. The high courts order means these regulations cant go into effect until legal challenges against them are settled. Narrator without ruling on the merits of the case, it ordered the epa to put the plan on hold until the suit was resolved. That was not a good moment for me. Uh, for. Well, frankly, i dont think it was a good moment for america, either. Hi general, how you doing . Narrator pruitt called a local reporter in oklahoma. The Clean Power Plan, this particular rule, has been stopped dead in its tracks. Andand will not survive this presidency. It invigorated us. Ive fought this fight every day. And now im going to bury the sons of bitches. Narrator it was the middle of the 2016 president ial campaign, and murray headed off to new york, to try to forge another political alliance. I called Donald Trumps office at trump tower in new york. And when i walked into his office he was alone. We talked for 50 minutes. I can talk. He can talk. About coal, about the connection between coal miners jobs, coal miners families. I was so impressed with him. Narrator trump began talking more about coal on the campaign trail. And soon, he was holding rallies in West Virginias coal country. Im just glad to be here because i love you people. The real people. Youre the real, real people. You make this country great, remember that. cheers and applause narrator it would become a winning message. I think he learned an awful lot about america that the other candidates missed. They didnt have ridiculous regulations that put you out of business. They didnt have these ridiculous rules and regulations that make it impossible for you to compete. The coal miner became the perfect symbol for Donald Trumps message of making America Great again by making america builders again. The connection between the coal miner as a symbol and what a coal miner does with his or her hands and the big machines and whatnot was the perfect symbol for the rust belt of america. That coalition, if you will, of cultures, created what is, you know, the donald trump phenomenon. This is a fox news election alert. Donald trump is the president of the United States. U. S. A. u. S. A. narrator coal country and the rust belt helped propel trump to victory. Trumps victory built on the backs of White Working Class voters, for whom he was the candidate of hope and change. din of traffic narrator as trump and his team prepared for the transition, they reached out to myron ebell with a surprising offer. They said, well, mr. Trump believes that the federal government cannot go on the way it is. And i said well, i agree with that. And that it requires fundamental transformation. I said well, i agree with that. And that he thinks that the epa is one of the obstacles to getting the economy going again in heartland america. And i said well, i certainly agree with that. And mr. Trump has even said that he wants to abolish the epa. And i said well, i agree with that. And he said, well, thats why were asking you to run the Trump Transition Team for the epa. Well, it gave me a clear understanding of the direction that the administration was planning to head because mr. Ebell was one of the big and most vocal climate deniers. Narrator ebell began helping to create a plan for the trump epa. And it wasnt long before scott pruitt emerged as the pick to take it over. What was your reaction when the president announced scott pruitt . Total delight. And did you have a hand in recommending scott pruitt to the president to be epa administrator . No comment. No comment. Oklahomas attorney general scott pruitt named the nominee of president elect donald trump to lead the Environmental Protection agency. A leading critic of the epa now in line to take its helm. Narrator a dozen of bob murrays coal miners showed up at the u. S. Senate in january for Scott Pruitts confirmation hearing. How are you all doing . Narrator for pruitt, it was a chance to explain why a critic of the epa should run it. I believe there is a very Important Role for the Environmental Protection agency. In fact, its involvement in protecting our air quality and improving our nations waters is extremely important, and the epa has served a very valuable role historically. We must reject as a nation the false paradigm that if youre proenergy, youre antienvironment; and if youre proenvironment, youre antienergy. Narrator and pruitt expressed his doubts about Climate Change. Let me say to you, science tells us that the climate is changing, and that human activity in some manner impacts that change. The ability to measure with precision the degree and extent of that impact, and what to do about it, are subject to continuing debate and dialogue, and well it should be. Narrator but Senate Democrats had strong doubts. The fear is that the nomination of mr. Pruitt is a nomination designed to protect the fossil fuel industry and not the environment. We have a Meeting Agenda from the Republican Attorney Generals Association meeting at the greenbrier. Narrator sheldon whitehouse, a former attorney general from rhode island, pressed pruitt on his ties to industry. Mentions a private meeting with Murray Energy. What the American Public deserves is the assurance that people who take government positions are making their decisions based on the merits. Not based on prior relationships, present relationships, the expectation of future relationships. The priority was to get at the conflicts of interest. You helped raise money for the Republican Attorney Generals Association while you were a member of its executive committee. They received 530,000 from koch industries, 350,000 from Murray Energy and 125,000 from devon energy. Did you solicit in your role at the Republican Attorney Generals Association any of that funding . I attended fundraising events as an attorney general along with other attorneys general in respect to the raga. And did you solicit . Did you ask them for money . For raga . As i indicated i attended fundraising events. In the ordinary course, his conflicts of interest would disqualify him from this position. And were it not for the power of the fossil fuel industry in congress then i dont think he would have had a shot. One of president trumps most controversial cabinet picks has made it through the senate. Scott pruitt was just sworn in moments ago. He will run the Environmental Protection agency much to the dismay of many environmentalists. Narrator a week after pruitt was confirmed, the president gave his marching orders. Today, this executive order directs each agency to establish a Regulatory Reform task force. Narrator it was a mandate to all federal agencies to slash regulations. What you see now with the Trump Administration is the triumph of the antiEnvironmental Movement. Should i give this pen to andrew . Dow chemical. They are now in control of the government, and in control of the regulatory process, in a kind of a brazen way we havent seen before. Theres a tendency to ignore whats going on in places like the epa, and really radical things are happening there and people arent paying attention. Let me tell you, theres been a change of direction obviously at the epa because the war on coal ended, the war on fossil fuels ended. Narrator to help him, pruitt hired people with deep ties to industry. Its startling to see the class of people that hes surrounded himself with, the lawyers and lobbyists who were fighting alongside of him to challenge the obama rules. They are now setting the policies that they were so involved with trying to kill. Hes making the regulated the regulators. Narrator pruitt also relied heavily on his fellow oklahoman, the senates leading Climate Change denier, james inhofe. We keep hearing that 2014 has been the warmest year on record. I ask the chair, you know what this is . Its a snowball. Narrator several of pruitts senior advisors worked for inhofe at one time. It happens the person who is running the epa right now is a good friend of mine. In fact, his chief of staff was my chief of staff. So that the abuses that we were subjected to by the overregulation for eight years under obama are things that we can now change and we are in the process of doing that. People are not aware of it. Scott pruitt promised an aggressive rollback of environmental regulations that had been put in place by former president obama. The Environmental Protection agency dropped a requirement that oil and gas interests report information on methane emissions. Scott pruitt said withdrawing the rule will ease burdens on business. The new head of the Environmental Protection Agency Reversed steps to ban a controversial widely used pesticide linked to potential Health Problems in children and farm workers. Narrator soon, Scott Pruitts epa had moved to delay or roll back more than two dozen rules and regulations. Scott pruitt, he is the star on the trump team. Getting more done probably than any other appointee to date. I gave mr. Trump what i called an action plan very early. Its about threeandahalf pages and of what he needed to do in his administration. Hes wiped out page one. Ready . Were ready. Narrator at the top of murrays list was the rule that he and pruitt had sued to stop obamas Clean Power Plan. Okay. applause you know i think hes doing probably kind of exactly what we figured he would do, meaning weve. Were kind of pretty familiar with scott. Id say it was a closed door and its now open and in terms of the ability to engage and know that youre going to have the ability to have a seat at the table, i think thats the single easiest way to describe kind of what we feel is we just have a seat at the table. Narrator the epa would not make pruitt available for an interview. But longtime staffers have been shocked by the way hes leading the agency. The political leaders that were brought in did not speak to any of the epa staff even at the management level. It was really left up to us as staff people to just read the news media, read the executive orders, and draw conclusions ourselves. Narrator Betsy Southerland left the epa in july after more than 30 years and is the highest ranking staff member to speak on television. The atmosphere of epa is really tense. What everyone is trying desperately to do is to hope against hope that their facts will change Scott Pruitts mind, that theyll be special and theyll be able to convince the administrator, you know, not to go with whatever the industry people have asked him to do and to give some deference to the science and engineering behind previous regulations that were so thoroughly thought out and so thoroughly justified. Narrator southerland saw her own work targeted, when she says without warning pruitt announced a rule she helped develop to keep toxic coal waste out of the water supply was up for reconsideration. The first that i knew that this rule that we worked years to create was up for grabs was when i saw the administrators press release that said that basically he was going to reconsider the rule because it was a job killer and had a huge Economic Impact on the country. Narrator after months of trying, southerland says she finally met with pruitt himself, to try to explain why the rule was both necessary and cost effective. It seems like that the die is cast before we even start these elaborate, extensive briefings. He just doesnt ask any questions. Its just a mystery as to how you can persuade him toto not follow exactly what industry asks him to do and instead bebe more accommodating to the facts of the case. Narrator in a statement, the epa called southerlands account a false characterization. They noted she retired for personal reasons with a six figure taxpayerfunded pension and was now expressing faux outrage. The rule she worked on was suspended in september, six weeks after her retirement. At her Goodbye Party she offered colleagues a grim assessment of the road ahead. Today the environmental field is suffering from the triumph of myth over truth. The truth is there is no war on coal, there is no economic crisis caused by Environmental Protection, and Climate Change is caused by mans activities. The epa started taking down its climate data from the agencys website. Now the Trump Administration wants to cut the epas budget by a third. Scott pruitt has decided to replace half of the members on its key science advisory board. President trump is about to step into the rose garden, to announce one of the biggest decisions hes made since taking office. You know, its a really good question for me to sort of retrospectively look back and see whether we won a battle and lost the war. Could i have done anything different . I dont know. I can continue to look back and ill probably always ask myself that. Ive been involved in a lot of things that people consider lost causes. One of the things ive learned is that lost causes arent always lost, but that the key is you have to be persistent. It was a culminating moment, i would say. Say a few words, scott, please. We were winning, our side was winning. Thank you, mr. President. Your decision today to exit the paris accord reflects your unflinching commitment to put america first. America finally has a leader who answers only to the people, not to the special interests whove had their way for way too long. Donald trump has a mandate to keep his Campaign Promise to withdraw from the climate paris accord. You conferred with the president and you told him this . I did. We owe no apologies to other nations for environmental stewardship. The American People can take comfort, because you have their backs. Thank you, mr. 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