Information services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications and so you begin how . Its till emergency. Rose is it luck at all or is it something . I think its all linked together actually. Rose what is the object lesson . Tell me the significance of the moment. Rose this was a week the gunman killed 58 and wounded hundreds of concert goers in the worst mass shooting in modern american history. Word came from the white house that the president would decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal. Here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. The death of a rock n roll icon. Tom petty has died at the age of 66. Rose the investigation into the Las Vegas Massacre continues. The motive of the attacker is unknown. Hundreds of people answering calls in the wake of the shooting to donate blood. The killers girlfriend. Back on american soil, with investigators eager to know what she knows. Throwing and lobbying paper towels at us as if we were animals. Nbc report that said he had nearly resigned over clashes in the administration. Kazuo ishigura has been named this win are of nobel prize in literate. Whoever hacked my yahoo account now has access to my car works. Rose former equifax ceo on the hot seat in capitol hill. The former ceo of equifax. Wow. Why you got to be so rude sexist comments he made to a female player who asked him about passing groups. The wildest of wild card games. The dance of the nlgs. Rose we begin this program with news out of washington after weeks of speculation, and against the advice of his National Security advisors, President Trump is expected to decertify the Iran Nuclear Deal next week. What does that mean for the future . David sanger joins me from washington. He is the nationality security correspondent for the new york times. David lets begin to explain the difference between decertifying or failing to certify and withdrawal . The certification process is merely an internal u. S. Government process in which the white house talks to congress. And in this case, the president is required, under the legislation that passed after the iran deal was signed by the Obama Administration, to certify to Congress Every 90 days that iran is in compliance with the deal. And the idea at the time they did this was to hold president obamas feet to the fire. They didnt really imagine how this would play out when a republican president got elected. It has no effect on the deal itself. Unless congress in the 60 days after that notification, then decides to impose or reimpose the economic sanctions on iran that were lifted in return for iran shipping 98 of its nuclear fuel out of the country and dismantling a bunch of its facilities and allowing free range. Then congress, if it does nothing, would basically signal that the deal can remain in effect. And the president would hope to create leverage to reopen the deal or negotiate Something Else with the iranians. The problem theyve run into is the europeans have said if you try to leave this deal, were not coming with you. We think its working. The chinese, the russians have all said that. President trumps defense secretary says he believes they are in compliance. The secretary of state says he believes theyre in compliance. The chairman of the joint chiefs have said he believes they are in compliance. Only the president himself and the warehouse seems to do a desophistication with no furtheo further acts. Rose even if they are in compliance, they are violating the spirit . Thats right. There is some preamble language that using this agreement to foster peace and better understanding around the world, and perhaps build a bigger and deeper ri relationship, and the president is saying because iran is continuing to oops support terrorism and it is, because iran is continuing to meddle and deepen its relationship inside syria and it is, because iran is continuing to launch Ballistic Missiles and they are, that as a result the spirit of the agreement is not being complied with. This is his way around the fact that the inspectors have said iran is doing whatever theyre supposed to do. And so the question here is, does the certification cover the little words inside this 130, 140 page agreement, or does it also cover the feel of this . And you know, if you look at the legislation, charlie, the president is within his rights to declare that he no longer believes that the agreement is within the National Security interest of the United States. With. Rose turning now to politics and our white house watch, we temperature to mike allen. Mike lets begin with the role that president s have always been able to do, try heal the nation at the time of tragedy and stress. Weve had a series of hurricanes in caribbean, floods in houston, a terrible disaster in puerto rico and weve also had a shooting, the worst mass shooting in americas history happened in las vegas. How is the president doing in terms of operating as one who represents the nations sympathy and grief . Well charlie we have to pause here to show how sobering those pictures have been from puerto rico and how sobering las vegas is, when you think of how many lives and families around the country were touched, where so many others have had such great times. Charlie youre asking about the president as consoler in chief, not something hes good at. But heres the news, he knows hes not good at. Charlie remember for many decades this is someone who wouldnt shake hands with strangers, the president is a gergermophobe, he would shake hs and use purell afterwards. The shaking hands with folks is not his thing. But charlie he is extremely attuned to the images, the pictures. He watches what happens after these visits and he nasa knows its something he has to be he knows its something he has to be better at. Rose lets talk about, he alerted the White House Press and said stay tuned. This is the president as showman. So charlie we saw the president thursday night having dinner with these military officials, taking these pictures, and then saying, to the press corps, think of this as the calm before the storm. And we have the commander in chief saying calm before the storm, that is going to set off radar, all around the world. So the reporters in the moment asked him are we talking about north korea, are we talking about i. S. I. S, like what are we talking about here . Thats when the president said youll see. Now he likes to flummox the press, he likes to kind of fool us. He saw a good picture and he likes a cliff hanger. He likes a teaser. Thats what this was. Rose we had the white house and the president essentially saying to his secretary of state, rex tillerson, suggesting to the president there might be back channels that are operative, saying youre not going to be successful, diplomacy cannot work. When can you hear the secretary of state hold a press conference saying, im not going to fully support the president . This happened after a meeting at the pentagon, of all places, that the secretary of state referred to the president as a moron. There are not a Single Person that doubts that he said that but after being consolidated, secretary tillerson who wasnt doing much with the press as you all know, made a statement and didnt deny that he called his boss a moron. If it did not occur he would have taken that opportunity to let that slip. The spokes woman later said he had not used that language but at that point it wasnt particularly believable. But charlie what was fascinating was what happened next. The president didnt let it pass. The president didnt brush it off, the president was furious. Rose puerto rico continues the real in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria more than two weeks after the storm half the population doesnt have access to Drinking Water. 95 of the power grid remains down. The official death toll is 34 but that number is expected to rise. Cbs news correspondent David Begnaud has been reporting from hardest hit areas of the island. Ive never covered a disaster when the emergency is endless, 15 days outs and its still an emergency. Rose is that because of the severity or because puerto rico wasnt prepared for this thing, can you ever be prepared or because the rescue effort has what is interesting is every day the governor stood at a podium and said were getting everything we need from the government, they couldnt be helping us more. I said on day 14, what do you need to move this past emergency situation . He said i needed extra hechts, helicopters, extra with us drivers. You know why, the bus drivers couldnt move the supplies, they had to stay with their family, they knew it was coming, the governor predicted the power would be out for entire island, you know how long places could be out . Over a year. A person from my apartment just was able to talk to his mother in the last couple of days, couldnt reach her. There has to be thousands of cases like that. Are. I know of Puerto Ricans who got in a plane and thats the only way they could check on their mother or father. Rose how did puerto rico recovery . They are in bankruptcy. You have a dilapidated infrastructure. If anything, this is what the governor said puerto rico had needed. They couldnt get the money to replace it before the storm but need it, still places with no Drinking Water, Drinking Water from a stream and bathing in it. Weve heard they are now sending fuel tankers to isolated areas of the island that have been deemed areas ever special need and those tankers are going to be specifically positioned at those municipalities. What took 15 days . Rose youre the roart, what took 15 days . When we asked the governor, we never got straight answers. Youve told us you were able to get food to every municipality around the island. Why do people still see more . He said what we think is happening, the food is going to a distribution area in the middle of town but people dont know its there. We cant reach them because theres no phone communication. I said what are you going to do . He said we are going to use mega phones, if we cant drive around and do it well use a helicopter with an intercom system to do it. Rose Tanehesi Coates new book was, we were in eight years of power, an american tragedy, during the Obama Administration that examined the issue of race and the first black presidency, the books epilogue, the first black president was featured in this months issue of the atlantic. The basic idea was to take the essays during the obama years and put them together with one single volume with an intro, epilogue, the ep loag same, hope you enjoyed it, some of the blogging i did during that period, i began to see the possibilities of a different book emerging. One a memoir. Laced between the actual essays i was writing. I took eight of them and i wrote a kind of story with the linkage being the thought process that went into each piece and where i was in my life. Rose great thing to do. It is legacy of slavery that you believe informs the relationship between black and white today. I think without the legacy of slavery those labels black and white would have no meaning in our society, no political purchase i should say. Rose do they have any meaning in france where you just spent a year . They do, three do. But one of the issues i make in the book, politics and issues of power, i am black here and obviously when i go there they see me as black but as soon as i open my mouth that is not the predominant identity i have with them. Rose it is an intellectual identity . It is an american identity. Rose rather than a black man . Thats most important. When i Start Talking immediately, its almost they have their issues with racism im going to be very clear but its with black people and i would argue much more, even cases of north African People that they really have a history with. Rose you said when you look at your own growth over the last eight years youve become more radical. I think so. Rose how do you define your radicalism . My basic thoughts about poverty in this country, stronger safety net, the desire for people to have dignity in their rose that doesnt sound radical to me. Thats what im saying, nothing changed, thats where i whereas before. I didnt even consider White Supremacy as central to american history. I didnt understand it that way. In 2008. Rose how do you think we grow out of that . I think it is the work he generations. I dont know how we worker generations. I dont know how we grow out of it actually. Rose it is a sign of our times isnt it . It is, it is. The first step is to take it seriously. D when you have a president of the United States who is objecting to a statue wh of a general who kidnapped black people from the north, its tough to get to the blue sky question that youre asking because were still down here on ground level, arguing about things that really should be obvious. Kazuo ishigura was awarded the nobel prize for literate this week, among other things, the committee took notice of his novel, the buried giant. How memory relates to oblivion, history to the present and fantasy to reality. Here is Kazuo Ishigura in 2015 talking about the burr the buried giant. Im a bit before aviation these guys used to make kind of funny flying machines in their backyard. I feel like im a bit like that. Im just trying get this thing that will fly, for a long time it doesnt fly and im putting this piece onto and finally it kind of flies. But i dont really know what it looks like. It may look really weird to someone coming at it fresh. Rose but do you know what it is or does it have to be something in your mind . Is it for example a love story . Its certainly a love story. Its a love story. But its a love story of a certain kind because when we say love story we usually mean a courtship story. A story of two people coming together and the story ends when they declare love to each other. This is kind of a love story i think there should be more love stories like this one. Its about the decades, the years, its the Long Distance of love. Its about all those years that you struggle to keep the flame alive and this is about a man and a woman who are determined to stand by each other right to the end. Rose they suffer from a kind of amnesia . Yeah, this is kind of what i had when i was talking about getting my flying machine together. This was one of the main problems. I start off with a kind of a story that i can almost express in two or three lines in the abstract. And i often cant find the right way to put it off, the right setting, and one of the things i started off with is i want a situation where theres a whole community, a nation, suffering from some kind of selective memory loss. And the nation has to decide as a nation, do they want to remember everything . Maybe theres been something very traumatic buried in the recent past. And maybe there was a very good reason for these things being ried about come on be my baby come on be my baby come on im in love with your body although my heart is pulling im in love with your body and you were in my room and my bed sheets smell like you im in love with your body coul come on be my baby, im n love with your body rose ed sheerans has been heard on spotify. That album is called divide. I didnt have a plan b, i dont consider myself talented. I continue play guitar or sing, i learned to do both. I think persistence is, more i came to london and was not the best singer songwriter or the best liked performer in the scene i was in and even at the time i got signed i probably wasnt the best. But the more and more you work at something you give yourself no choice but to get better. Persistence was the key. A kid comes up around says how can i become a performer . It doesnt really matter if you cant sing or play. I was persistent, i never thought i would be doing anything else. I never thought id be playing stadiums, i thought i would make a living, even if i only got a hundred quid at the end of the night. That was all possible. Rose you also have no time for anything but music. And friends. Yeah but even with friends, friends fit in between the music and they know after this im going into the studio again and making a song. And i just love it man, i just love it i dont know why id want to do anything else. Rose and can you feel and see yourself just Getting Better and better . Do you feel better at it now . I definitely some writing has become i think ive learned the art of it whereas before, i would just chuck ideas together. Whereas now i kind of know. Rose is it the art of it . The art of it is all about the structure and the i think for me, i was always so focused on lyrics, whereas now, its more about usually where i write a melody, lyrics will just fall into it. Its a subconscious thing that just happens. Lyrics are better than i was o. With castle in the hill, there is a line in it where i say sing into i its me going da da da da, that just falls in so now some writings more just feeling it and just letting it happen. Heres whats new for your weekend. Austin city limits begins its 43rd season on pbs, saturday. The 18th annual new Yorker Festival opens in new york city. A lot of communication can happen in silence but you have to listen. And Harrison Ford and ryan gosling are in theaters with the scifi thriller. Bladerunner 2049. I know youre here. And heres a look at the week ahead. Sunday is the running of the chicago marathon. Monday is columbus day. Tuesday is Independence Day in cuba. Wednesday is the opening day of the new orleans film festival. Thursday account annual summit of former soviet nation in sochi russia, friday is the first day of the American League championship series of basebal baseball. Saturday is the day the smithsonian sacr and freer galleries reopen to the public in washington. Rose thats charlie rose the week. With this week we leave you with something very special. Linmanuel miranda gathered puerto rican stars. Puerto rico puerto rico captioning sponsored by Rose Communications captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org puerto rico, its puerto rico puerto rico puerto rico. Almost like praying rose for more about this program and earlier episodes, visit us at pbs. Org and charlierose. Com. Funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. Be more. Rose welcome to the program. We begin tonight with david sanger, the National Security correspondent of the new york times. We dont know what congress will do, but it looks right now as if the plan is for the president to decertify because he cant bring himself, having denounced this deal so often, to actually have to sign a piece of paper every 90 days saying iran is in compliance even if thats what the inspectors tell him because it just to him doesnt feel like theyre in compliance because there are so many other issues with iran. Then congress, if it does nothing, it would basically signal that the deal can remain in effect, and the president hopes that this would create some leverage to either reopen the deal or negotiate Something Else with the iranians. Rose and we continue with our white house watcheg