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A commercial jet, you know that the real cost of flying isnt just financial, its emotional. Thats why the airlines are teaming up with werner herzog, the only man capable of truly conveying the psychological cost of flying. Im werner herzog, and this is the price of a oneway ticket from orlando to cleveland. As you sit idling on the tarmac for 55 minutes pretake off, you not only lose a fraction of your soul, but its as if that part of you never existed, and when you turn around to give a dirty look to the toddler roundhouse kicking the back of your seat, you see in his face yourself as a child and feel compelled to warn him that things are not going to be okay. By the end of the flight, you realize you are what you eat a mini pretzel, twisted and malformed, covered in crystals that taste of tears. And coming soon, departure updates from johnny cash. 13 hour delay announcer its the late show with Stephen Colbert tonight. First, stephen welcomes samuel l. Jackson and clarissa ward. Featuring louis cato and the late show band. And now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, its Stephen Colbert stephen hey [cheers and applause] proud of my boy. Good to see you. Good to see you. Good to see you. Welcome everyone. Welcome. Welcome one and all to the late show. Im your host, Stephen Colbert. [cheers and applause] folks, i was. I want you to know we had every plan in the world to start tonights monologue by talking about what i was gonna talk about in tomorrows monologue, the latest january 6th hearing. But we just learned this afternoon that the committee has postponed tomorrows hearing, saying, quote, no, its for a good reason. In light of Hurricane Ian bearing down on parts of florida, we have decided to postpone tomorrows proceedings. That is understandable. We hope everybody in florida stays safe. Please, if you can, get out of the storms path. Worst case scenario. [applause] worst case scenario, tell ron desantis youre venezuelan, maybe he gives you a free plane ride to marthas vineyard. [applause] one event that will not be delayed is the midterm elections, and things arent looking great for Republican Senate candidate and vampire distracted. [booing] okay, but how do you really feel . And vampire distracted by your throbbing jugular, dr. Mehmet oz. Dr. Oz has been trailing in the polls for the whole race behind pennsylvania Lieutenant Governor and halffinished wooly willy, john fetterman. Recently, oz went on a rightwing podcast and pointed out that fetterman often wears hoodies and cargo shorts on the campaign trail, then tried to use those fashion choices to attack the Lieutenant Governor. Only his insult didnt really come across as very insulting. When he dresses like that, its not an accident. Hes kicking authority in the balls. Hes saying, hey, im the man. Ill show those guys whos boss stephen yeah way to stick it to fetterman by making him seem. Cool . I tell ya. I tell ya when fetterman dresses like that, he looks like a man you dont wanna mess with. A man who knows what he wants. Also, have you seen how huge he is . I just think id feel safe cradled in those burly, tattooed arms. Not long after that interview, fetterman responded with this actual tweet showing his new logo fetterman kicking authority in the balls. Thats how you do it, baby. Thats how you run the senate. Fantastic. That is fantastic. I dont know about authority, but he definitely just racked dr. Oz in the nuts. Speaking of people who should be kicked in the balls, vladimir putin. His war against ukraine has been going so badly that last week, he ordered a draft. This has been super unpopular, and to avoid it, a lot of russians are getting the hell out of dodgeski, especially to neighboring georgia, resulting in a line of over 5,000 cars thats at least 10 miles long. And im told we have footage from a helicopter. Bob, traffics pretty backed up along the georgian border. So if youre thinking of fleeing forced conscription, head out early and pack a snack now back sergei with sports. Permanently i have a helicopter and i am outta here see ya, suckers stephen those who havent managed to flee. [applause] ivan . Ivan in the skyski . What was that . Those who havent managed to flee are finding other ways out of service. Because mobilized russians have been calling a hotline to ask how to surrender. We actually called that hotline this afternoon and we have the recording. Welcome to the surrender hotline. For information on how to surrender, press 1. For showtimes for minions the rise of gru, press 2. Para espanol, oprime la estrella. [beep] stephen and to get. [applause] sure. Like that rise of gru. Good movie. And i get why they want to preemptively surrender. Check out this leaked video of a group of soldiers reportedly being told what to pack for the front lines. Get your girlfriends and wives to get sanitary pads. The cheapest pads plus the cheapest tampons. You all know what the tampons are for . You shove it right into the bullet wound, and the tampon expands and applies pressure to the wound. Stephen tampons to plug gunshot wounds . That is awful. Plus, so awkward to ask for. Gah ive been shot ive been shot does anybody have a [whispering] tampon . [applause] go to the bathroom together . Not everyone is fleeing russia. Some folks are putting down roots, like nsa whistleblower and grandson who showed up to the funeral dressed like that . Edward snowden. Ever since leaking details of the nsas domestic surveillance program, snowden has been living in exile in russia, yesterday, it was announced that he was granted russian citizenship. That is a rough bit of timing, bud. Congratulations, new citizen. Put right hand on potato and repeat after me. I, state your name. I, state your name. Solemnly swear to immediately go to be exploded in ukraine. Here is passport and weapon sharpened tampon. Other people. [scattered applause] true story. Thats based on a true story. [applause] other people are achieving russian citizenship by force. Because putin has made occupied parts of ukraine vote on joining russia in sham referendums. [booing] and im being told we have a copy of that ballot. Should ukraine join russia . Da, super da, or dahhh i am falling out of window very slippery floors. Very slippery floors. A lot of bananas. They eat a lot of bananas in the penthouse. According to one ukrainian mayor, the getoutthevote effort has been exactly what youd think. They bang loudly, they ring the doorbell, they give people a ballot, and point with their rifles where to put the mark. And of course like all elections, it is being run by elderly volunteers. Dingdong. Hello, tavarech. Heres your ballot. Vote in the right way or ill pop a cap in your ass. Okay. All right. Theres a bake sale down there. Staying overseas, in the u. K. , Buckingham Palace has released King Charles Iiis official monogram design. Take that, people who say the monarchy is an Outdated Institution that does nothing they release monograms. Just in case. [applause] very important. Just in case you want to buy the king of england a bath towel. We have it . Take a look. Okay, thats pretty good its classy. It features the kings initial intertwined with the letter r. R for rex, latin for king, and intertwined for years of inbreeding. Weve got an update. See, he wouldnt like it. Its a long story. Weve got an update from outer space. Last night, i told you about nasas dart mission, which is a test to see if they could knock a planetkiller asteroid off course and save the earth. They tried a little miniversion on a space rock that wasnt presently threatening us, and guess what . The dart Mission Successfully slammed into the asteroid theres the slam right there. In your face in your face, asteroids planet saved. We think. Because even though it was a direct hit, it will take about two months for scientists to determine if the asteroids orbit has changed. So if this were a real emergency, id be telling you, folks, we may have saved the planet. Well find out in two months. Until then, theres only one thing to do spend time with those you love, and together, sign up for a free 2month trial of paramount paramount were all gonna die why not . [applause] watch that yellowstone. Watch that yellowstone. Thats pretty fun. This mission was tricky. Essentially, they hit a bullet with a smaller bullet that they shot ten months ago. But they nailed it, earning this joyful celebration of the moment of impact. Three, two, one. Oh, wow. Oh, my gosh, wow, awaiting visual confirmation. [clapping] all right we got it . We have impact and we have impact. A triumph for humanity in the name of planetary defense. Ooh, fantastic. Oh, fantastic. Oh stephen look at those happy nerds i am so happy for them. That is lovely. Quite an achievement. When they landed that double highfive this is a lot like what happens every night with the writers who work here at late show mission control. Here they are watching a live feed of last nights opening monologue. Hes setting up the joke. Ten, nine, eight, seven seconds to punch line. Five, four, three, two, comedy. Stephen do you want fries with that . We have laughter. Stephen the answer is yes. [cheering] and the joke landed, and in two months, well find out if it was funny. Weve got a great show for you tonight. My guests are samuel l. Jackson and cnns clarissa ward. But when we return, i introduce you to the hottest driving new app. Announcer the late show with Stephen Colbert sponsored by Liberty Mutual insurance. 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Im grateful for everybody that wants to come talk to this clown. But tonight we have, from the cnn, their senior international, correspondent clarissa ward, is here tonight, amazing. She goes everywhere she does everything. And also the legendary samuel l. Jackson is here tonight. [cheers and applause] louis whoo stephen fun fact, the l stands for legendary. Louis did not know that. Stephen folks, im a bit of a tech head. Dont believe me . Ask jeeves. And. [applause] very good crowd. One technology that i particularly love is rideshare apps. They are perfect for when you want to get to your destination but you also want to put your life in the hands of a sleepdeprived stranger. Its been a difficult few years for Industry Leaders uber and lyft. 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Jackson [cheers and applause] lay down my burden down by the riverside down by the riverside gonna lay down my burdens down by the riverside [cheers and applause] samuel that was incredible. Yeah you got a new band all right stephen there you go. Samuel oh, papas got a brandnew band. I like it. Stephen mr. Samuel l. Jackson, its lovely to see you again. Samuel thank you, so lovely to be able to come back and do this again. Stephen in person, we saw you. Zoom over a year ago was the last time we were together. Samuel exactly. Stephen this is so much nicer. There is something ineffable. Some micronutrients that get passed between two people when are you together. Samuel it is the whole kind of reason im here in new york and being back in front of a Live Audience and having the whole live thing happening. Its kind of awesome. Stephen yeah, those that dont know, you are starring in the piano lesson, written by the great August Wilson. Previews started last week. How are you feeling about being back on broadway . Samuel its amazingly energizing. I had forgotten. Stephen how long had it been . Samuel i think maybe seven years or so last time i was on broadway. I was doing a play called the mountain top with angela bassett. Right before i did django. I literally went from being Martin Luther king to being steven, the most hated negro in cinematic history after playing Martin Luther king. And being back on broadway, you forget, i started here. I pounded the pavement i did plays all the time, you forget how energizing and how you look forward every night to meeting new people and that energy and what that does to you. Stephen you have an opportunity to make that connection in a different way and express the character in a different way . Samuel im playing a different character in this play. I originated this character 30some years ago at yale. Stephen here we go. You were in this play. You played samuel i played boy willie and John David Washington is playing that character now. Stephen uhhuh. Samuel and the character im playing now is this character, doaker, who was played by carl, who was a really good friend of mine at the time. Stephen so this is 1987. Samuel yeah, long time ago, long time ago. Stephen was this play still in development . Was August Wilson there working on the play with yall . Samuel yes, we started previews at yale, yes, he would come in with new pages during the day and we would rehearse them and learn them and do them that night. Which is kind of what we are doing now, but we are not learning new things, but we are still rehearsing because we are in previews, which means we got to go to rehearsal all day and then we gotta do a show at night. So we are doing twice as many shows as when the show actually opens. Stephen what was his process like . He is one of the greats of american theater, of world theater. What was that like to work with him . Samuel well, you talk about the characters during the day, and Lloyd Richards was directing it, who was the head of the Drama Department at yale when we were doing it. So we developed the characters, we talked about them. We talked about the things that they wanted. What boy willies goals were, that was my character, and what was going on in the play. What the piano lesson actually was, what it meant. And that was before we knew anything about generational wealth or started talking about it as that and what the play actually means in terms of taking an heirloom or something of value and turning it into something that helps the family down the line. And if one person wants to keep it, another person wants to sell it to do that, who is right . Who is wrong . So thats the conundrum of the play. Stephen as you do this play, do you think back to that young man who was doing it in 1987 . Do you approach a role differently than he did . Samuel yeah, i do. Different character, different goals. [laughing] definitely different director. Stephen for people there who dont know, your director is an acclaimed actor, the first woman to direct an August Wilson play on broadway, just happens to be your wife, Latonya Richardson jackson. Samuel yeah, exactly. Stephen is that whats it like . Whats it like . Is this the first time you have been directed by your wife or has she directed you before . Samuel yes, well. In the theater, yes. Not the first time i have been directed by her but yeah, on stage, yeah, for sure. But she, she has a vision thats amazing for this play. I have seen this play a lot. And its never been done this way. Shes the first person to approach the play from this place that she wants to do it. And its about the piano and its about this thing, its about these people, but shes always insisted it was a ghost story. And shes made it one. And its kind of great. So if you get a chance to see it, please come see it. [cheers and applause] stephen can yall leave that . You can leave the work at the office, or does it follow yall home . Samuel right now it is following us home because st all day. So we talk about what happened at rehearsal or she will tell me what i need to do to facilitate somebody doing Something Else or to stop doing this other thing that she doesnt like me doing. Stephen here yall are together, right there. How long have yall been married . We have been married, what is this, 22 . 42 years. Stephen 42 years. Thats nice. Samuel but we lived together ten years before we got married. Stephen so youve been together for 52 years. Samuel yeah. Stephen really . Heres a shot of yall. Samuel oh, yeah. Stephen that is a great shot. Samuel that is the beginning, that is back in college, yeah. 1972. Stephen did you meet in class. Samuel well, the first time i saw her was actually, i was on a plane going to memphis to march with the garbage workers the day after Martin Luther king was killed. We were on a plane that robert cope and bill cosby rented to take these students to march with the garbage workers, so i saw her on the plane and was like, wow, whos that . And then i didnt see her again for about six months or so after we locked the trustees in a building, on campus. And she was in there too. We took over the trustee meeting. And then i didnt see her again for, like, two years because i got kicked out of school and she didnt. When i came back to school, i went to register for the Drama Department and she was trying to sneak a production book in the professors office, and he was looking out the window talking to me, and she stuck it on the thing, and i saw her. She was like. She snuck out of the room and he turned around and grabbed it and put a big f on it. And then i saw her that night at the rehearsal for the first time. And weve kind have been together ever since, yeah. Stephen thats lovely, thats lovely. We have to take a quick break. Well be right back with more samuel l. Jackson. Stick around, everybody. Mymy frequent t heartburn hade taking a antacid after antacid alall day longg but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks h heartburn for r a full 24 4 hours. For one e and done h hearn relilief, prilososec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. I got this 1,000 camera for only 41 on dealdash. Dealdash. Com, online auctions since 2009. This playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. This ipad pro sold for less than 34. And this nintendo switch, sold for less than 20. I got this kitchenaid stand mixer for only 56. I got this bbq smoker for 26 bucks. And shipping is always free. Go to dealdash. Com right now and see how much you can save. 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Samuel first thing was i was instructed never talk to john david about boy willie, so i have never had a conversation with him about that character. Stephen do you think he would like it . Samuel oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, of course. Stephen the fact that you are not supposed to say anything about this part or this play to him and youre saying it on tv and he might be watching right. Are you breaking the rule . Samuel no, no, im not telling him how to do it. Im not telling him what boy willies intentions are or at this point in the play you are supposed to be like, and this part, but to sit there and watch him, i did boy willy a specific way because i was directed to do it that way. He is being directed to do boy willie another way and to sit there and watch it is kind of breathtaking at times because i say i never thought to do that. You know, i never thought to try that, she has him doing something that is spectacularly moving and touching in a way that i didntdo it, you know. And i love watching that. I love watching his growth from the first day we stepped in the rehearsal room and moving around that room and being comfortable with the actors, and having that many words to say. When and if you have an opportunity to see this play, this character talks the whole play, the whole, whole, whole play and i remember when i did it, by the time my character said to him boy willie, will you shut up, the audience are like yeah, please, cause it was that kind of play. But when i say it to him in this play, you know, the audience was like oh, my god. Theyre like, they love him so much because they believe what he wants and what he is doing. And i believe it. And im moved by it. And im sitting there just thinking, this is a great play to do every night, im sitting there enjoying the play and hoping, like oh, no. Oh, did i miss my line . Im sitting there watching, oh, my god, its quiet. And you go, is it me . Stephen ive done that before, this is going really well. Samuel and then it gets quiet. You go, oh, wait a minute. Stephen you have ever fallen asleep on stage . Samuel not on stage. I have fallen asleep during a movie. Stephen cameras are rolling and you are asleep. Samuel when im doing off camera for the other actor. Stephen oh, i see. And it gets kind of like, is this as good as he going to be . [cheering] stephen thank you for being here. Samuel oh, my pleasure. Stephen the piano lesson on broadway. Samuel please come. Stephen samuel l. Jackson, everybody. Well be right back with cnns clarissa ward. Trick k or treat kit kat. Rereeses. S. Ooo, g great costutume. Lolooks like y you deserveve. See ya b boys. How white do youou think your teethth really arare . Lelets try ththe tissue t t. Ooof, stilill yellow. Whitenining toothpasaste can n only do soso much. Theres s toothpastete whit, and thereres cresest 3d whitestripips white. So mucuch whiter crest. Around h here, we lilike top thingsgs simple anand hones. Sure d do. 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Clarissa exactly, exactly. Stephen your in town because the new news emmys are coming. Clarissa ive been perfecting my clap. You dont win coming out to look happy. Stephen it would be kind of entertaining if you really one person person who went. Clarissa i think i might stephen do it, just do it. Okay. Last week, lets get to it. Putin announced a partial mobilization. Clarissa yep. Stephen and he is feigning this going in an orderly process. We have gotten reports that in fact there is no plan, comprehensive plan to make this happen. What do we know about whats happening in russia . Clarissa we know its a disaster. As you eluded to in your introduction, your monologue, these guys being recruited to go there, a lot are drunks, a lot of them have no military experience. Ordinary young guys who have no desire whatsoever to go and fight and die in a war that they dont believe in. And its really important for people to understand that a lot of russians i think have been pretty sanguine about the war in ukraine, as long as it stayed on their television sets. Stephen putin wanted it that way. Clarissa that is how he wants it. There is a reason he waited all this time before taking this because he understands that for the first time now, russians really get it. Everything they have built for the last 30 years is now in jeopardy. And it could be a whole generation before they will be able to rebuild their lives. And i have talked to friends in russia who are just sobbing because they understand that this is really crossing the rubicon. It wont be the same again. And you are already seeing people protesting. This machiavellian approach to dealing with it, the protesters. What is the sickest thing you can do to them . Lets summons, so people who are issuing draft a protests in moscow. You are seeing protests in other parts of the country. When you say the people response from people. That you know from russia are looking at horror, the possibility that everything they built over po years could be gone, since the fall of the iron curtain, what does that mean that can it could be lost . What could be lost in this for them . That putin has risked their national security, their standing in the world, they get kicked out of the banking system, they had the ruble crumble. What is it they could lose if putin loses . The big part of the social contract that putin made, this idea of stability coming out of the chaos of the 1990s and also selfrespect and being able to hold your head up high on the international stage. Both of those things now have effectively been corroded. Stephen now, the referendum that putin has called in these breakaway regions in eastern ukraine, or supposedly breakaway regions of ukraine, what is the upside for him for doing this . Because it clearly appears to be a sham election at gunpoint, hell no doubt will say it was 97 in favor. Clarissa he already has. The results have come out. Shocking news, guys. Stephen what is the result . Clarissa i believe it was 96 result. 97 , 98 and maybe like 95. There were four different regions. But effectively what this is, this is a smoke screen for annexation, so then russian can say all these parts of ukraine are now effectively part of russia. So any attack on these areas is no longer an attack on ukrainian territory or even disputed territory. This is a direct attack on russia. And thats why he came out and gave this sort of very ominous warning about not being afraid to use nuclear weapons. Stephen how seriously he says im not bluffing which is an odd thing for someone to say, especially a world leader dealing with weapons that could destroy everything. From what you know of russia, because you have a long relationship with that country. You were abcs chief correspondent in russia for years. Should we is he bluffing . I thought i had more to that question. Clarissa thats it. Stephen i dont know. I pray he is bluffing but is everyone should assume. I have talked to hardliners inside rushing to support the use of, you know, potentially a tactical nuke for example because they say its very important for russia at this stage to reinject fear into the battle space. Stephen would provide them enough time to get this mobilization going. Because if it is the chaos youve described, then they need something to keep the ukrainians from advancing. Clarissa the irony is none of this is likely, even the most extreme nuclear use for example. None of that is really fundamentally going to change the dynamics on the battlefield. I think what russia is really hoping to do in the long run or certainly many analysts believe this, if they just want to keep this grinding and grinding and grinding for as long as they possibly can. Because the one thing they are better at than most others is suffering. And so they have a very high pain threshold. And theyre really hoping that if they can maximize this, keep it going as long as possible, that they will start to see support waning for ukraine. What they havent banked on and what i have been covering for 20 years and i have seen over an over again, the people who win usually are the people whose hearts are in it, the people who believe it, they feel it, they fight for it. Stephen lets talk about feeling and fighting. Youve also reported from iran in the past. What do you make of what is going on there with the protests in the streets and the question of the leadership, in its streets, and the especially the women protesting in the street. Clarissa its extraordinary the bravery of these women. I mean, next level. A 22yearold woman is reportedly beaten to death for daring to show her hair. And this groundswell that you have seen of women going out and pulling off their head scarfs and demanding to no longer be second class citizens, effectively. And risking everything. Their lives, their livelihoods, their security. And the idea of how frightening that is to these majority of these, sorry to say, geriatric men who have been ruling iran for four decades. Now im never going to get a visa, but it is an extraordinary thing to see. Stephen clarissa, thank you so much for being here, good to see you. Clarissa thank you. Stephen you can watch clarissa on cnn. Her book is now available in paperback. Clarissa ward, everybody. Well be right back. You know, people always ask me, kevin, what does being the ceo of cashbacking mean to you . It means cashbacking every opportunity. Did you cacashback on n this . Like i i wouldnt t cashback . Cashbabacking by t the baske, i see e you. Ugh. H. I dreamamt you didnt casashback thisis flig. Oh good. 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