The coronavirus. And well likely have a therapeutic and or vaccine solution long before the end of the year. Weve learned a lot. Weve learned how to put out the flame. Brennan but scientists and medical experts see it differently. Were going in the wrong direction. Im very concerned because it could get very bad. Brennan dr. Anthony fauci, the top virus expert, predicted we could see 100,000 new cases a day, double what were seeing today. What weve seen over the last several days is a spike in cases that are well beyond the worst spikes that weve seen. That is not good news. Weve got to get that under control before we risk an even greater outbreak in the united states. Brennan with protests and record joblessness throughout the nation, President Trump launched a campaign friday against what he calls far left fascism. Angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials, and unleash a wave of Violent Crime in our cities. Brennan another attack came on the fourth of july. We are now in the process of defeating the radical left, the marxists, the anarchists, the agitators, the looters, and people who, in many instances, have absolutely no clue what they are doing. Brennan well hear from the mayors of two covid hot spots, houstons Sylvester Turner and Miamidade County mayor carlos gimeenez. Plus former fda commissioner dr. Scott gottlieb. Well talk about former National Security adviser john bolton, plus, well have analysis on the weeks Economic News mark zandi of moodys analytics and also take a look at travel trends in the covid era. Its all just ahead on face the nation. Brennan good morning, and welcome to face the nation. It may be the most sobering morning after the fourth of july in americas history as we wake up to the fourth day in a row of more than 50,000 new reported cases of covid19. On the rise now in 40 of 50 states. We are committed to bringing you the facts about the virus and the most knowledgeable guests that we can. We think its important for our viewers to hear from dr. Anthony fauci and the centers for disease control. But we have not been able to get our requests for dr. Fauci approved by the Trump Administration in the last three months. And the cdc not at all. We will continue our efforts. Our coverage begins this morning with cbs News National correspondent mark slosman in atlanta. Reporter washington, d. C. s celebration of the fourth last night masked a feeling far from festive. On the national mall, police and protesters were in no mood to party. D. C. s mayor urged people to stay safe and stay home. At the white houses, masks were available but few people wore them as President Trump bragged about his administrations response to the pandemic. We have tested almost 40 million people. By so doing, we show cases 99 of which are totally harmless. Reporter tell that to Health Officials across the country. They saw a parade of nonsocial distancers this weekend. Like this pool party in michigan and another in missouris lake of the ozarks area. A rolling wave of covid already has hit americas sun belt. States with the biggest spike over the last week, georgia, louisiana, nevada, arizona, south carolina, and florida. This Holiday Weekend south floridas beaches are closed. On saturday, the state posted two alarming covid records, almost 11,500 new cases in a single day. And its testing Positivity Rate hit almost 18 . Roughly 1 in 5 newly sick americans is a floridian. Governor ronde desand ron desanityis. I dont think anyone expected a sunbelt resurgence in midjune. Reporter not true. Many predicted it for states like florida, like texas. The states averaging 6500 new cases a day. Three times its april average. A masked mandate covers most of the state. In california, some beaches were closed, others crowded. The virus has burst again in california. The first day to shut down back in march. Roughly 6300 new cases a day. Avoid crowds and avoid going to large parades outside of your household. Fourth of july reporter but for these tailgaters in fulsome, california, covid mixed with patriotic pride. The cars were parked six feet apart. In arizona, Free Covid Testing drew hundreds of people, a sign of the worry here. Some cars waited eight hours before organizers ran out of supplies. Balancing vital signs and dollar signs remains tricky. Expect fuller flights on american airline. Its selling middle seats again. And Major League Baseballs abbreviated season is less than three weeks away. But Americas National pastime already has americas virus. At least 38 players and staff have tested positive. The good news covid mortality rates are dropping. Still by the end of this month, some Health Experts predict as many as 160,000 americans will have died from the virus. People heard the call to have a lowkey Holiday Weekend. But did they listen . Margaret . Brennan Mark Straussman in atlanta. Thank you. We want to go now to one of the nations hot spots. Thats houston, texas. Mayor Sylvester Turner join us from his home this morning. Good morning to you, mr. Mayor. Good morning. Thanks for having me. Brennan the president said 99 of covid19 cases are totally harmless. Is that the case in houston . No, thats not the case. I would tell you a month ago, 1 in 10 people were testing positive. Today its 1 in 4. The number of people who are getting sick and going to the hospital has expo nnchly increased. The number of people in our icu beds has exponentially increased. If fact, if they dont get our hands around this virus quickly, in about two weeks, our Hospital System could be in serious, serious trouble. Brennan overwhelmed. Is that what you mean by serious trouble . Thats what i mean, overwhelmed. Right now we have bed capacity. But let me just tell you, i want to highlight the major problem, the staffing. We can always provide additional beds, but we need the people, the nurses and everybody else, the medical professionals to staff those beds. Thats the critical part right now. Brennan who is getting sick . Is this concentrated in any one community . Is there any lesson to be learned here . Look, this virus is an equal opportunity abuser. It will inflict anyone who comes in close proximity with it. Its having a disproportional impact on people of color, and right now especially within the hispanic community. But were having young people being impacted as well. Just the other day, i announced a young woman in her 20s with no underlying medical conditions that died as a result of covid. So its anyone from their 20s into their 90s are being impacted. If you come together in close proximity, you will fuel this virus and now 1 in 4 people are testing positive for this virus. This is a serious issue, and we need to control it. Brennan what do you trace this spike back to . Because i know your police chief said he believes theres a high probability that many of the officers who were policing those protests in the past few weeks trace it back to that. Others have traced it back to reopening of restaurants. Can you concentrate this . What is the Contact Tracing tell you . Well, at the end of april, the beginning of may, our numbers were relatively low in terms of people getting infected and people dying. We were our numbers were quite good. What we did see as we started to reopen and i said then were reopening too quickly, too fast. In the month of may, if you look at the second week in may going forward, the numbers started to increase. I was never reporting more than, say, 200, 250 cases a day in terms of people testing positive. And then towards the end of may into june, those numbers started increasing exponentially. Around midjune, i started reporting 6, 7, 8900 a day. And so from the beginning when we started opening too quickly and when you layer that on top of Everything Else all the other activities that were taking place and people starting to resocialize, then you started to refuel the virus. And thats when the numbers started to increase. Brennan with testing, weve seen pictures of long lines in houston. Do you need the state, do you need the federal government to Surge Capacity to you . Why isnt that happening already . Well, let me just tell you, this is all hands. We need everybody from the federal level, state level and local level. The demand for testing in this state, in this city has increased quite a bit. But we and were trying to ramp up, but the demand exceeds the capacity. At the two major testing sites that we have, that we have partnered with fema, we can test up to about 650 per day at each one of those sites. We are reaching capacity at about noon. We have opened up some additional testing sites and many what i call our aggregates, vulnerable communities but theres a tremendous demand. And then theres a wait time for that testing and to get the results back. So we are increasing the testing. But we are also finding whats most disturbing is that the Positivity Rate has increased. So a month ago, 1 in 10 tested positive. Today were looking at almost like 1 in 4. Brennan mr. Mayor, i want to also ask you about something the president said yesterday in his fourth of july speech. I know you in your city have been supportive of removing confederate monuments because of the moment we are in. He gave extensive remarks, the president , yesterday talking about a fight that he says hes taking on with the radical left, marxist, anarchists, agitators and the looters and the angry mob trying to tear down our statues and erase our history. I wonder how those words landed with you in your decision . Let me just say i dont fit into any one of those categories. These statues, confederate statues, and in houston we have taken them down and theyve been taken down very peacefully, with the support, i would say, with most of the houstonians in this city. These statues should never have been put there, to glorify that history. It is a if there is a place for them, primarily in a museum or someplace else but not in our city parks and public spaces. The history and im an africanamerican mayor. Im a nonpartisan mayor. But i can but i was an africanamerican before i became mayor. Ill be an africanamerican after i become mayor. And the history of slavery and people fighting against the union, that history cannot be erased, and the fact is that those monuments were placed, for example, in houston 80 to 100 years ago to glorify the bad things that were done to other people like those of my ancestors. It has been past due time for those statues to come down. We did it in a respectful way. Were not trying to erase history, but we are trying to take the power of placing these statues in public spaces away and to place them where they can be told where the history can be told and placed in its context. The toxicity that is being spread in our city and our country has to come to an end. Brennan mr. Mayor, thank you for your time. Good luck with your fight. Thank you. Brennan we want to turn now to another mayor in another hotspot, in south florida, the mayor of Miamidade County is carlos gimeenez and he joins us from miami this morning. Thank you for joining us, mr. Mayor. Its a pleasure. Brennan you put in some pretty stringent restrictions in the past few days on this Holiday Weekend. You put in place a curfew. You stopped alcohol from being served at hotels after 8 00 p. M. , mask wearing. Are your residents now taking this threat seriously . Well, i think they are, but i think my residents also kind of let their guard down around late may, early june. And also some of the protests that we had here contributed to it, so we saw a rapid rise in young people getting being positive to covid19 around midjune. And i think that that had a lot to do with probably socializing, young kids going to parties, maybe graduation parties at homes, because its been pretty locked down here for some time. We have a strict mask order when youre inside since april 19t april 19th, youre supposed to wear a mask, supposed to wear a mask outside unless you can maintain social distancing. We changed that now to wearing a mask all the time. We shut down the beaches this weekend. We restricted alcohol sales. Weve also closed again some of the places where people can congregate like movie theaters and bowling alleys and casinos and all that, because we have seen a sharp rise in the Positivity Rate just like they have in houston. Brennan so you do trace it to the protests, because we just heard the mayor of houston say that was not it. It was the restaurants, the businesses and people gathering in those kinds of no, i think its all the above. I think oviously the protests had a hot to do with it. We had thousands of young people together outside, a lot of them not wearing masks. We know when you do that and you are talking and you are chanting, etc. , that really spreads the virus. Brennan okay. So absolutely, the protests had mething to do with it. But also our people, our residents did not i think they let their guard down and started to socialize, and again, that also had to do with it. So its all of the above. Im not saying its just that, but it was a contributing factor. Brennan give us a sense of who is getting ill and how ill they are getting, because as i asked the other mayor, the president said yesterday 99 of these cases are totally harmless. Whats happening in miami . Well, theres a difference between what is the real whats the official number and its what the real number. We ran a study down here in miamidade a couple months ago that said over 200,000 people had already had the virus or had the virus at the time. So our official number is maybe 40,000 have officially had it. What concerns me is the Positivity Rate. We had it down to about 8 of the people getting tested were showing up positive. Now there are over 20 are showing up positive. Thats the problem for us. And so we brennan and how are they getting with hospitalizations and the degree of last week you were on fox news and you said the good news here is that its not as lethal as people think it is. That seems in contradiction to your very stringent guidelines now. No, because, look, we just had more people that are being positive. So the more you have at the end, youre going to have more people pass away, unfortunately, because its just a question of numbers. And so we do have a lot of young people that have gotten positive results. We have seen an increase in the number of hospitalizations. We have seen an increase in the number of icus and also an increase in the number of ventilation simply because we have a more of our people are actually testing positive, which indicates more of the people of Miamidade County are coming up with covid19. And so when you have more, you obviously will have more hospitalizations, more icus, more respirator es brennan right. And unfortunately you would have more fatalities. Brennan so you would agree being on a ventilator or being hospitalized means the virus is not harmless. No, the virus is not harmless. Brennan thank you. Thats why if it were harmless, i wouldnt be taking the steps that were taking here in miamidade. 3 brennan exactly. I want to ask you where the concentrations of clusters are. Well, its initially, it started out in the middle of the city and also down south. And so we have our farm workers down south. And we had a big concentration down there. And then in the middle of the city in some of the poorer neighborhoods, we had concentrations and now its spreading throughout the county. So we have what we called surge teams or people with over 100 people, we go out, we give masks. We give hand sanitizers, information, and drive home the point that we have to wear our masks inside and outside. We have to wash our hands. We need to keep eye way from each other. And if we do that, if we act responsibilitily, then we can tap down the Positivity Rate, get it down below 10 which is where we need it to be. Brennan wouldnt it help you if both the states governor and the president also issued that call . Look, the governor and i talk just about every day. And he allows us down here in miamidade to do things a little differently because the virus is actually been more impactful here in miamidade, broward and palm beach than other parts of the state. And so its a big state. And there are big differences between whats happening up in the north part of the state and whats happening here brennan thats why i was asking you about your portion of the state. We wish you very good luck in getting this under control. We want to leave it there. Appreciate it. Brennan we want to get some perspective on what we just learned. With former fda commissioner dr. Scott gottlieb. Hes standing by. Stay with us. Right now, there ae over a million Walmart Associates doing their best to keep our nation going. Because despite everything thats changed, one thing hasnt and thats our devotion to you and our communities. Our priority will always be to keep you and our associates safe, while making sure you can still get the essentials you need. Original crown molding, walk in closets. We do have a ratt problem. Round and round with love well find a way, just give it time. At least geico makes bundling our home and Car Insurance easy. It does help us save. Round and round with love well find a way, just give it time. Round and round what comes around, goes around. For bundling made easy, go to geico. Com brennan we go now to dr. Scott gottlieb. Good morning to you. Good morning. Brennan the infection rate spiked this week. Dr. Fauci referred to it as beyond the worst spikes that we have seen. Where are we headed as a country right now . Well, i think right now were where we were when new york city was having its peak epidemic. If you look back, when new york city peaked, we had about 34,000 cases a day. At the time we were probably diagnosing 1 in 20 infections. That meant we were having 700,000 new infections day. Right now were going to have about 60,000 infections a day this week. Maybe well reach 75,000 or get close to it. Were probably diagnosing 1 in 12 infections. Cdc said 1 in 10 a few weeks ago. Its probably 1 in 12 now because were falling behind. That means we have about 700,000 infections a day nationally. So were right back where we were at the peak of the epidemic during the new york outbreak. The difference now is that we really have one epicenter of spread when new york was going through its hardship. Now we really have four major epicenters of spread los angeles, cities in texas, cities in florida, and arizona. And florida looks to be in the worst shape. And georgias heating up as well. And thats concerning. Brennan the president has tweeted yesterday that the media focuses too much on the growing number of cases, and hes making the point that deaths and the allimportant mortality rate is going down and were not hearing enough about that. How do you understand what is happening with deaths and mortality . Well, we need to separate the number of deaths going down from the actual case fatality rate. How lethal is this . The case fatality rate is going down, although were not able to measure it right now, because were able to save more people who are hospitalized and get critically ill because of advances in care. The number of deaths has gone down because the number of infections went down for a pord of time and more of the new infections right now are in younger people and were protecting more vulnerable populations like people in nursing homes. But the total number of deaths is going to start going up again as the number of hospitalizations starts to spike again. So were going to see deaths creep up. And i wouldnt be surprised in the next two weeks to see deaths go over 1,000. That doesnt mean the case fatality rate, the actual death rate, isnt declining. But when you have more infences, youre going to get more deaths tragically. So if we cut the death rate in half, but we double the number of infections, were going to get more deaths. To see that. Were going to start so we shouldnt just focus on the crude mortality rate, the number of deaths to tell the story of whats happening medically. Medically we are improving but we just have so much infection around this country were going to see unfortunately a lot of lethality. So when the president said of the increase in cases that 99 of which are totally harmless, is he confused . Well, im not really sure what hes referring to. He might be referring to the number of people who get hospitalized based on a number of people who get infected, which is probably less than 5 when you count all the asymptomatic infections and infection in young people who might not be getting diagnosed. But certainly more than 1 of people get serious illness from this. About 60 of people who get infected become symptomatic. About 10 to 15 of them will form some form of covid pneumonia and somewhere around 2 to 5 might get hopized depending on what the age mix is of the people who are getting infected. So this is still a pretty bad virus. What were able to do is when people do get hospitalized and get into the icu, were able to save more lives with treatments like rem desveer, with steroids which has a big impact on mo mortality and using blood thinners on patients and not intubating them as aggressively. So that is going to cut the death rate. I want to talk to you about remdesivir and about some of those treatments. So if you can stay with us, we will come back and continue our conversation with dr. Gottlieb conversation with dr. Gottlieb in the next half hour. To sohns or ulcerative colitis, stelara® can provide relief, and is the only approved medication to reduce inflammation on and below the surface of the intestine in uc. You, getting on that flight . Back off, uc. Stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. Before treatment, get tested for tb. 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Hes here to talk about his new book the room where it happened. Stay with us. Brennan welcome back to face the nation. We continue our conversation now with former fda commissioner dr. Scott gottlieb. I want to pick up on this idea that we left off on, which is that treatments, there is hope on that front. Specifically on remdesivir, that drug thats made by gilead. Weve talked about it on face the nation before. It shortens recovery time. Tooves a sign of hope. But now we are hearing that there hey not be may not be unfortunate in of it. Does the administration need to be doing more . I know hhs said that theyre purchasing 500,000 doses of it. But is that going to meet the need . Well, look, we need to accept the fact that were in the second wave right now. Two months ago, there were about 10 states that where the reproduction number was above 10, meaning they had expanding epidemics. Now theres 40. So were in that second wave. Theres not a clear line on how were going to get this under control, so it makes us more dependent on technology. Theres only a handful of technologies, remdesivir is one of them. We have enough of the drug if the epidemic stays at its current level and we continue to use remdesivir as its approved for patients who are more sick and hospitalized. But if the epidemic worsens and we want to extend use of the drug to patients who arent as ill but have preexisting conditions that predict that they may become very sick, we dont have enough drug for that. And thats what we would have wanted. We would have had to set the groundwork for that months ago, and we didnt do that. I think right now we need to be planning for other drugs that may become available this fall, like the therapeutic antibodies and make sure we invest right now in manufaturing capacity and have a coordinated strategy on that so we can have them if those drugs do become available. Brennan when you say we, who do you mean . Is that something from the white house . Is that something from congress . Are we looking to corporations to do this themselves . Well, the corporations are doing it themselves. Theres a lot of collaboration going on, discussion between pharmaceutical companies about trying to free up capacity to increase the manufacturing of these drugs. I think need a more coordinated National Strategy around this. There are things the government can do either Pay Companies no the to produce certain drugs or try to consolidate manufacturing for products we dont need right now or boost manufacturing in the short term and freeze some of those drugs, put them on hold so you can free up the domestic manufacturing capacity we dont have lot of excess domestic manufacturing capacity for these drugs so we need to strategy to free that up. It doesnt mean the government steps in and uses a defense protection act to take over facilities. Theres ways that they can work with companies to try to coordinate this. Thats what should be happening particularly around the antibodies. We missed the window to do it on remdesivir because that drug has a long manufacturing cycle, were unlikely to be able to ramp up supply between now and the end of the year. And thats when we would have needed it. Because we face a hard fall. Were going to take all this infection into the fall and winter. Its not clear that its going to get better. Were going to have epidemics that come and go across the nation in different cities. Theyll light up at different times. But were not going to really be able to crush this virus at this point because theres just so much infection around. We really dont seem to have the political will to do it. Brennan you told us in april on this program that doctors should not be using hydroxychloroquine to treat covid19. Do you stand by that recommendation now . Thats certainly clear. Theres studies that show it doesnt provide benefit to hospitalized patients and it doesnt work as a prove laxis. So it doesnt prevent infection. Theres studies underway looking at whether it could be helpful in mildly symptomatic patients. But most of the evidence turned over isnt a suggestion theres a benefit. So i dont anyone should be using it right now pending results of another statey that might demonstrate there is in fact a benefit. Because the margin of all the data weve gotten from all the credible studies really show nos benefit and in many so iscas increased risk. Brennan dr. Gottlieb, always good talking to you. Thanks a lot. Brennan we want to go now to former National Security adviser john bolton. He has a new book out. You might have heard about it, about his time in the administration called the room where it happened. Good morning to you, ambassador. Good morning. Glad to be with you. Brennan glad to you have back on face the nation. I want to talk about a number of topics with you. But you in your book lay out a number of indents in which you came to the point of potentially resigning but you stuck with it for about 17 months. The president , however, continues to refer back to one specific incident on this program with you as the reason for your relationship going south. It was a comment about north korea. I want to play it. Is it a requirement that kim jongun agree to give away those weapons before you give any kind of concession . I think thats right. I think were looking at the libya model of 20032004. Brennan the president told fox news that was one of the dumbet things ive ever seen on television. Was it that moment that ruined your relationship . Well, who knows . I guess the president s discontent with me ought to have him asking who hired that guy to begin with . Maybe hes the one who needs to be fired. You know, i dont think i could be clearer in talking about the libya model of 20032004. We had a clear strategic decision for Muammar Gaddafi to give up libyas Nuclear Weapons program. We have never gotten that from north korea. So the fact that seven or eight years later in the midst of the arab spring, gaddafi was overthrown, nobody predicted in 20032004. Ill stand by my comment. One day the president will learn a lilis hadtry and hed be better off for it. Brennan does the president in his thinking get more shaped by television or government advisers . Well, i think its a combination of television and listening to people outside the government that he trusts for one reason or another. I think if you could clock the amount of time he spent actually in the oval office, versus the amount of time he spends in the the little dining room off the oval office with the Cable News Networks of one form or another on, it would be a very interesting statistickic. Brennan i want to move on to some issues on the National Security front. Youre not in government anymore but i know you watch iran closely. There have been at least three mysteria explosions in the past few days, specifically one at the nuclear site. Does this look like u. S. Or israeli sabotage to you . Well, it nobodys claiming credit for it except the dissident group inside iraq. The iranian government itself is trying not to comment on it. The Israeli Government is not commenting. Its not brennan exactly. Clear whether this is the precursor of a larger attack or not. But if somebody is beginning the process of taking down Irans Nuclear and bliss tick missile program, i say more power to them. And if they have some spare time, maybe they could try the same on north korea. Brennan well, well see what we hear from government officials. The israelis are not confirming as you mentioned there. On afghanistan and russia, as you know, the current National Security adviser, robert obrien, has acknowledged that the u. S. Did, indeed, have intelligence that russia was paying bounties for american dead. But he said that information was with a held by a cia officers from the president. Even though it was in the brief. Were you ever aware of bounties when you were a National Security adviser . Well, im not going to comment on what i knew or didnt know out of the intelligence, but i do think its important for people to understand, intelligence doesnt come in only two qualities, the fully verified intelligence and then the unverified intelligence brennan well, i want to end on this, because this morning i just want to make sure you know, this morning susan rice, the National Security adviser to president obama, went on television on another network and said the information came to light in 2019 when you were in the job. And she believes you would have told the president. Is she wrong . Does you know about that . Did you know about that . Well, ive said in countless other interviews im not going to disclose classified information. Ive got struggle with the president trying to repress my book on that score already. I will say this. All intelligence is distributed along the speculatetrum of uncertainty spectrum of uncertainty. And this intelligence in 2020 by the administrations own admission buzz deemed credible enough to give to our allies. So the notion that you only give the really completely 100 verified intelligence to the president would mean you give him almost nothing. And thats just not the way the system works. And its certainly not a decision made only by the briefer who briefs the president twice a week. Thats a decision that at least when i was there would have been made by the director of national intelligence, the director of the cia, myself and the briefer together. Brennan right. Well, this information that russia was providing weapons and money to the taliban was made public in 2018 by the thencommander of u. S. Forces in afghanistan. So, you may have known about it when you were in that job. Im wondering if you are, in your remarks today, sort of politely saying that the current National Security adviser failed in his job. Look, im not going to i dont want to make this a matter of personalities. About by the way, what was made public in 2018 was russian assistance to the taliban and thats been known for some time. That alone is troubling. What is particularly troubling, if true, is this latest information that they were killing they were providing compensation for killing americans. And that is the kind of thing that you go to the president on and say, look, mr. President , heads up, we may not know everything on this, but a Nuclear Power is reportedly providing bounties to kill americans. Thats the kind of thing you need to have in the president s view so that he can think about it as he develops at least as normal president s develop strategigy to handle russia, to handle afghanistan. Brennan yeah. Before i let you go, i want to ask you, you in your book well were very critical of some of your fellow cabinet members. Nikki haley, you really unloaded on her. You called her untethered, a free elec tron. You mentioned her going on this program and saying things she shouldnt have said about russia. You have a pretty low regard on someone whos viewed as having a Bright Future within the republican party. Why did you do that . Well, she wrote about this the conversation on your show in her book and it was inaccurate. And i just felt that it was important to get the record straight. I really wrote this book in large measure for history. Other people will write their books and scholars in the future will sort it out. I wrote as best i could recollect what i saw, and i thought that was important. When somebody actually gets the title of their book out of the incident and the facts are wrong. Brennan ambassador bolton, always interesting to talk to you. We will leave it there and we will be back to look at some good Economic News for the week. S need to reach you seamlessly. Your team needs to work from different places across many devices. Plus, you want the security trusted by some of the Largest Companies in the world. And thats why you trust us. The most Reliable Network in america. bbut its even nicer knowing atthat if this happens. Ice it is to save on your auto policy. Or this. Or even this. Weve seen and covered it. So, get a quote today. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum come on in, were open. All we do is hand you the bag. Simple. Done. This smells so good. Big thanks to you guys at home. Were here right now. We adapt and we change. I mean you just figure it out and well do like we do as safely as we can. I got a new job. Weve just been finding a way to keep on pushing. Were lookin for a day at a time baby. Laso you can enjoy it even ifst youre sensitive. Se. Yet some say it isnt real milk. I guess those cows must actually be big dogs. Sit i said sit brennan the u. S. Added 4. 8 million jobs in june but that data was compiled before the coronavirus spikes midmonth. Mark zandi joins us from philadelphia this morning. Good morning to you, mark. Good morning, margaret. Brennan you had already predicted this would be the shortest but arguably most severe recession in history. What did we learn from the data we got this week . Well, it was good, about as good as you could expect, almost 5 million jobs were created during the month. Thats on top of 2. 7 million in the month of may. So weve gotten about a third of the jobs back that we lost in march and april. Unemployment declined, properly measured, its about 12 . Hard to imagine that thats a good number, but it is a good number compared to 20 , which we got in april. That was the peak. But heres the thing, marget are. The margaret, the unfortunately uunfortunate thing, the unexpected better Economic News is a result of the very rapid increase in business reopenings too fast because now the virus is reintensefying and the pandemic is raging in a lot of key states across the country. Theyre pulling back. And thats not in the data yet. Thats coming down the road. So i fear that the best Economic News was in june and as we looked at july and going forward, the job statistics are going to look meaningfully worse. The pandemic is a real issue now. Brennan and is there these states that are seeing these spikes are important to the u. S. Economy, very large economies, taxes, california, texas, florida. How much do you expect to see consumers pull back . They are theyre big. If you add up california, texas, florida, lets throw in arizona youre now talking about over a fifth of the economy, probably closer to a third of the economy right there. And i do expect that were going to see pullbacks from businesses in those states. And heres the thing. Its not just businesses that are directly impacted. Its not just restaurants and retailers. I think all businesses are going to be nervous about the uncertainty that this all creates so theyre going to become even more cautious in hiring back workers. And then, of course, youve got consumers. You and i. Were we already had one hand on the bunker. I cant imagine many of us arent going to go right back into the bunker as a result of all this and wait this out. This is very disconcerting. And if dr. Fauci is right and were headed toward 100,000 per day, i think the prospects of going back into recession are pretty high. Brennan well, we know certainly at the white house and at capitol hill, theyre going to have to take a look at what kind of emergency aid will need to be provided in light of some of this changing information that were receiving. In your view, do you think Congress Needs to provide some kind of help to American Families . 80 million americans have children under the age of 18. They cant necessarily send them back to school in the summer. Maybe not in the fall. Childcare is also in question. How important is it to address that specific challenge . Critical its absolutely critical. If congress and the administration dont get it together in the next few weeks before Congress Goes away on its august recess, i fear were going back into recession, because the economy needs a lot of help. And you point out theres a lot of even though unemployments back down, if you add up folks that are unemployed, people who are have gotten their hours cut, theyre still working but they got their hours cut, and consider those folks that are still working, havent gotten their hours cut but gotten their pay cut, youre talking about a third of all American Workers who are struggling here. And if they dont get additional help and as you know, the Unemployment Insurance expansion that was part of the original help to the economy is going away in two to three weeks. So if congress and the administration dont figure out how to provide more help to these folks, theyre going to have absolutely no choice but to stop paying bills, cut spending and the economy is really going to struggle. Heres the other thing, state and local governments are hemorrhaging red ink. So every state and local government, doesnt matter if youre in a republican or democratic state, theyre slashing payrolls. These are middle income jobs, teachers, fire, police, emergency responders. These are the kinds of folks we need working at any time but particularly in a pandemic. So its just absolutely critical that congress doesnt take the wrong message from the june jobs number and says, okay, mission accomplished. Were okay here. Were far from it. They need to provide a lot more help and very soon. Brennan what about the specific childcare issue . How does congress well brennan solve that . Well, i mean, youre right. The they have provide support through to support for childcare on the other side during the pandemic and once schools during the summer and when school if schools dont reopen. So there has to be Additional Support there. Theres different ways of providing that support, direct aid to people who are unemployed or through the through Unemployment Insurance, or through the tax code. Theres a Child Tax Credit that could be used to make it refundable to different households so that they can get cash back if they have childcare needs. But all those things need to be part of any Additional Support that Congress Comes forward with and hopefully again they come forward with that quickly here. Brennan and well be covering it. Mark zandi, thank you. Well be back in a moment. For the sweaty faces, and the hidden smiles. The foggy glasses, and the sore ears. The determined looks, and the muffled laughs. A simple piece of fabric makes a big statement i care. Lets all do our part to slow the spread. Wear a mask. Learn more at covid19. Ca. Gov. Wean air force veteran made of doing whats right,. Not whats easy. So when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. Thats how you do it right. Usaa insurance is made just the way martins family needs it with hasslefree claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. Because doing right by our members, thats whats right. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa brennan Summer Vacation looks a lot different this season. Short distance road trips, visits to national parks, or for some no trips at all. For a look at how americans are thinking about travel, we know youre at least thinking about it, tripadvisor ceo steven cover joins frus his home in newton, massachusetts this morning. Good morning to you. Good morning to you. Brennan so, travel was supposed to be inching back up this summer. Now we have these spikes in the south and in the west. what is that doing to the consumers that you are watching . Yeah, so if you look at the traffic on our site, we have hundreds of millions of visitors on tripadvisor each month who look at the top searches and i think 5 or 6 of the top 10 a couple of weeks ago were all wonderful southern beaches, texas, arizona, florida, great places to go, but that switched. Everyones moving essentially up north away from all these hot spots, which is totally understandable given the safety concerns that travels tell us are most important. Brennan we hear that the president continued to float this idea of giving a potential tax credit to americans if they take a vacation. We dont know that congress will take that up. But im wondering, in the travel industry, if you think or if youre betting on needing that. I think everyone in the travel industry is really, really concerned about this slip backwards that weve now seen in the u. S. And whats best for the travel industry, at least my opinion, is really getting the pandemic under control. And that isnt about a tax credit for someone to take a vacation. Its really about leadership among federal government, from the state governments, from local governments, all telling people to do the basic things that Everybody Needs to do to keep us all safe. Thats what will get travel going again in this country. Brennan and safety is the number one priority that you are seeing in the consumers who are looking to travel and to book something right now . How do you offer that to someone on the other end of a computer screen . We asked. We asked hundreds or thousands of people, and they said 9 out of 10 said, safety is the most important thing that they are looking for when planning this next trip. So we went out, as tripadvisor, like the premier travel Guidance Company and said, how can we help our travelers really understand the details about what makes a hotel or a restaurant safe for them. So we went out to all of the businesses on our site and said, come tell us, comaltel all the audience on our site everything that you as an individual business are doing to help keep your guests safe. And as of this morning, close to 50,000 different businesses had uploaded some information already and this was just a program that was launched last week, so we expect many, many more. Brennan we know american different American Airlines are going to the government to get emergency help. We saw new terms negotiated just this week. And i wonder if you are seeing americans have the confidence to go and buy a ticket on a plane a few months out. Are they confident that airline isnt going to go bankrupt . I dont think theyre worried about airlines going bankrupt, but they remain concerned about their health. And to the degree that the whole country can come together, as much of europe has done, and really take a concerted effort to treat everyone safe doing everything they can to make sure everyone feels safe when they travel brennan what does that mean . Does that mean masks are sort of the magic solution for a business to provide confidence . Does it mean face shields . Does it mean something specific . Like, how do you actually trust the Safety Measures . Im personally less worried about getting on an airplane if i have a mask, and i know every other passenger is wearing their masks. That would make me feel personally safe to go to a place if that place is not now a hot spot of the coronavirus. So, again, with government recommendations, with our president , with all of the National Leaders saying, this is what every american of every political persuasion should be doing, i think that would go a tremendous way to really helping start the downward trend in cases. If you look at massachusetts is doing. We have a republican governor, charlie baker, led by science whos looking at opening up the state after we clearly took care of the coronavirus, in the hundreds now, and hes opening up very slowly. Brennan okay. Well, we will see. Thank you very much, steven, from tripadvisor. Well be right back. The hoa has been very involved. These shrubs arent board approved. You need to break down your cardboard. Thank you. Violation. Violation. 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