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This morning is mitigation working . And how are we doing on scientific advances to stop the virus . Well talk with dr. Anthony fauci of the National Institutes of health, and former f. D. A. Commissioner dr. Scott gottlieb. Plus, as the crisis continues to engulf new york city, well talk with the head of northwell health, michael dowling. The pandemic has left at least 10 Million People out of work so far. Well look at the new numbers, and talk with the head of the st. Louis Federal Reserve bank, james bullard. Finally, as the strain of job loss, health concerns, and isolation take their toll on americans, well Ask Mental Health expert dr. Luanna marcus, how to cope with it all. applause brennan despite these dark of americbeing challenged like never before. We will get through this, america. Brennan from coast to coast, there is one thought that can unite us all. Its all ahead on face the nation. Brennan welcome to face the nation. Since last weeks broadcast, the number of deaths due to covid19 in the u. S. Has quadrupled. In the last 24 hours, there have been more than 1300 new deaths recorded. The hardest hit areas are by now familiar to you the northeast, west coast, the south, and some parts of the midwest, with new york city, los angeles, new orleans, and detroit heavily impacted. Experts say there is a new wave of socalled hot spots coming, expanding areas in the northeast, midatlantic, and south, plus states like indna and colorado. Cbs News National correspondent Mark Strassmann reports from atlanta. Reporter good morning, margaret. The c. D. C. Now recommends wearing face masks in public, something cloth, like this bandanna, all voluntary. If its the latest shift in our crisis lifestyle. Roughly 95 of americans now live under orders to stay home, a nation in hibernation. 50 states, 50 front lines, and by far, new york has the worst of americas corona contagion. 40 of the countrys cases, and almost half the deaths. Were not yet at the apex, and if we dont stop the spread, thoing to burn down our own country. Reporter Governor Cuomo believes new york city is about a week away from the apex, terrible timing. City hospitals could run out of ventilators within days. P. P. E. reporter doctors and nurses protested alarming shortages of protective gear gowns, masks, face shields. Every day when i go to work, i feel like a sheep going to slaughter. Reporter in new jersey, Governor Phil Murphy pleaded for supplies and volunteers. Clearly, were in a world of hurt. Reporter without realtime data, no model can truly predict when any hot spot will peak, but consider the latest trends. Covid19 deaths quadrupled in both chicago and detroit over the last week, and doubled in new orleans. Overflowicflow cocorona patientn military field hospitals. Across america, nearly 20,000 National Guardsmen reinforce covid19 response efforts. And for the coast guard, its all hands on deck with cruise ships. In port miami, carnivals coral princess today will start letting off more than 1,000 passengers. Two people died at sea from the virus, another dozen have tested positive. This is so sad that all the cruise lines are here. Reporter right off south floridas coast, you can see a floating parking lot. In all, 114 cruise ships sail in or near u. S. Waters. They carry an unknown number of sick people. America is staring at another grim week. New cases and deaths will spike again. Without a vaccine, soc distancing remains key, because only the virus can predict its course. The c. D. C. Has also gun blood testing groups of people. Its looking for signs of previous infection with the virus, and one of the goals to get a better sense of just how widespread this epidemic really is. Margaret. Brennan Mark Strassmann reporting from atlanta. As most of the world struggles to contain a stillsurging pandemic, china is over the worst, and things are getting back to normal. Cbs news senior Foreign Correspondent Elizabeth Palmer reports. Reporter margaret, now that the worst is over and theres no sign so far, anyway, of a second wave of infection, china declared a national day of mourning. Nationwide, people stopped wherever they were and joined president xi, and the party leadership, to remember what china says was 3,333 victims. That now sounds shockingly low compared to more than 30,000 deaths in europe alone. In spain, a popup hospital in madrids Conference Center has 1,000 acutely ill patients. The country has the secondlargest number of cases in the world, after the United States, but at last, some good news. Prime minister sanchez announced the peak is almost over. And in italy, too, the rates of infection and death have flattened. Grateful shoppers in rome were back at a local Street Market this weekend after one of the strictest lockdowns anywhere. By con, in mump of te developing world, including brazil, the death toll is mounting fast. There, president bolsonaro tweeted, coronavirus is just a little flu, which so infuriated rio citizens they beat pots and pans on their balconies to protest his lack of leadership. Here in the u. K. , there is Still Limited freedom of movement. Evidence suggests the infection will peak next weekend. Prime minister bor boris johnson, himself still sick with covid19, begged people to continue to follow the rules. Please, please, stick with the guidance now. Reporter to yards apart and heed the police. One British Institution did go ahead this weekend, the grand National Horse race. But virtually. Britons could bet on these computergenerated horses. All the proceeds went to health care. In a few hours, Queen Elizabeth is going to make a rare special address to the nation, just the fifth time shes done that in almost 70 years on the throne. Its to unify the country and to thank people for everything theyve done in this time of extraordinary hardship. Margaret. Brennan Elizabeth Palmer, thank you. We turn now to dr. Anthony fauci, the director of the National Institute of allergy and Infectious Diseases at n. I. H. Dr. Fauci, thank you for what youre doing, and thank you for making time for us. Good to be with you, margaret. Brennan we heard from the president that there will be a lot of death in the coming weeks. Dr. Birx said its not the time to go to the Grocery Store or the pharmacy. What should americans be preparing for . Well, this is going to be a bad week, margaret, unfortunately. If you look at the projection of the curves, of the kinetics of the curve. Were going to continue to see an escalation. Also, we should hope that within a week, may be a little bit more, well start to see a flattening out of the curve and coming down. The mitigation that were talking about that you just mentioned is absolutely key to the success of that. So on the one hand, things are going to get bad, and we need to be prepared for that. It is going to be shocking to some. It certainly is is really disturbing to see that. Buatsto so just buckle down, continue to mitigate, continue to do the physical separation, because weve got to get through this week thats coming up, because it is going to be a bad week. Brennan are you saying, doctor, despite the deaths that we may see, that mitigation is working, and that you do have this outbreak under control . I will not say we have it under control, margaret. That would be a false statement. We are struggling to get it under control, and thats the issue thats at hand right now. The thing thats important is that what you see is increases in new cases, which then start to flatten out. But the end result of that you dont see for days, if not weeks, down the pike. Because as the cases go down, then you get less hospitalization, less intensive care, and less death. So even though youre getting a really improvement in that the number of new cases are starting to flatten, the deaths will lag by, you know, one or two weeks or more. So we need to be prepared that even though its clear that mitigation is working, were still going to see that tailoff of deaths. So the first thing we want to look for is to see on a daily basis are the numberfew cases starting to stabilize . Weve seen that in italyst med t correctly. Were going to hopefully be seeing that in new york very soon. And thats the first sign of that plateau in coming down. Brennan so when Governor Cuomo says new york is not yet at the apex, what does that actually mean . And what happens on the other side of that apex . Yeah, what the governor is saying is that we are still going to see an increase. The curves that we show at the conferences, often, is the epidemic curve goes up, it hits the top a bit, and then it starts coming down. So what Governor Cuomo was saying is we havent yet reached that peak, and when we do, well see a flattening and am canning down. Where we are right now is really approaching that apex, and thats why what hes saying and what were saying is that this next week is going to look bad because were still not yet at that apex. Days, or nine d so, we hopefully are going to see that turn around. Brennan you have flagged that you see this virus now sprelgd in the developing world, and communities where people dont really have the luxuries that we have of working at home. What does that mean for the risk of reinfection here in the United States . Well, you bring up a very good point, margaret. Unless we get this globally under control, theres a very good chance that it will assume a seasonal nature in the sense that even if we and i hope its not just if but when we get it down to a point where it is at a very low level, we need to be prepared, that since it unlikely will be completely eradicated from the planet, as we get into the nexll see te bea resurgence. Thats the reason why were pushing so hard in getting our preparedness much better than it was, but importantly, pushing on a vaccine, and doing Clinical Trials for therapeutics interventions, so that, hopefully, if in fact we do see that resurgence, we will have interventions that we did not have in the beginning of the situation that were in right now. Brennan so you said yesterday that there are three things you think this country needs to have in place before some of these restrictions are pulled back the ability to test, to isolate, and to do contact tracing. How close are we to meeting those requirements you laid out . Were not 100 there yet. But the people who are responsible for getting these tests out there, its very clear that we are much, much better off than we were in the sense that in the next week or two, well have an extraordinary amount more capability of doing the kinds of testing thats essential. Because testing is not only important to be able to identify individual cases, icealate them in contact tracing, but we really do need to get a feel for what the pen trance of this infection is in society. That becomes critical when you plan to start to get back to normal, or at least take those first steps to getting back to normal. You have to know whats out there. You have to know what youre dealing with. So testing becomes even more important than what weve been speaking about in the past. Brennan do you wear a mask when youre not on television . Well, you know, my life is is pretty different. I i stay six feet away from anybody that i can. If i go out, which i really dont do very much because of my life as it is now, margaret i would and do, if you go to a tuatere you dont control over that sixfoot distance, that you wear a mask. In fact, my wife just went out to get us some food for the morning, and she doesnt wear a mask in the house or when we go out and run. But when she gets into a situation, as i woupowe thcontrt , ldecomoing what the c. D. C riately and correctly said, its an adjunct. Its an additional way to help protect you and to have you help protect others. Brennan doctor, what would you tell our viewers who live in south carolina, arkansas, wyoming, south dakota, iowa, nebraska, north dakota, utah the eight states that do not have stayathome orders what does that do to the white house models of projected deaths . Are they putting the rest of the country at risk . Well, it isnt that theyre putting the rest of the country at risk as much as theyre putting themselves at risk. So every time i get to that podium in the White House Briefing room, margaret, i always essentially plead witpltt those very simple guidelines of physical separation. Theyre very, very clear. Theyre multiteledifferent ways that same all teamephys saratt away10 anacon, like movies and Sports Events and theaters and things like that. Even in areas where youre not having a big explosion of cases, to the best of your ability, do that. Because this virus doesnt discriminate whether youre in a small town in a relatively secluded area of the country, versus whether youre in a big city. And sooner or later, youre going to see a surge of cases. So i would urge people to please take a look at that. Brennan very quickly, is hydroxychloroquine preventive against this virus . Yes or no . You know, as ive said many times, margaret, the data are really just, at best, suggestive. There have been cases that show there may be an effect, and there are others to show theres no eff brennokay ks. Sink in tf nnl right, t good lto yl be rig bac look at our struggling enomy. Stay with us. Eared, people cant get anywhere. But no matter how crazy it gets, we know when and where to get to work. Data on the ibm cloud helps us maintain 8,000 miles of roads across the country. It helps keep millions of our visitors and our own families safe. Hey allergy muddlers. Achoo do your sneezes turn heads . Try zyrtec. Zyrtec starts working hard at hour one and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. Zyrtec. Muddle no more. Sinus pressure, and congestion. Spepped of this Global Economic contraction is unlike anything weve ever experienced, and it that makes it very difficult to project out what the slowdown will mean. This week, there were more than 6. 5 million new unemployment claims filed by nowjobless americans. Combined with over three million last week, that means nearly 10 million americans have lost jobs in less than a month. We turn now to james bullard, president and c. E. O. Of the Federal Reserve bank of st. Louis, one of 12 banks that make up the Federal Reserve system. He joins us from st. Louis. Good to have you with us. Pleasure to be here. Brennan you and your team have predicted that 47 million americans could lose their jobs, bringing the jobless rate above 30 . It sound like youre saying the job market is in freefall. Where do you see this happening . What americans, whatduss . H, wd push th economy or the job market being in freefall. Were asking people to stay home to invest in national health, and were asking them to use the Unemployment Insurance program in order to get the transfers they need to be able to pay bills while theyre at home, while theyre not able to work because Health Authorities are trying to get the virus under control. Our estimates, which are available on our blog, st. Louis fed, on the economy blog, suggests the Unemployment Rate could go 10 and 42 . The 32 number is a compromise in the middle. Brennan thats what im asking you about. I mean, theres this idea, when i speak to Business Leaders in particular, that some of those jobs are going to come back, that these are temporary furloughs, that there will be, somehow, a switch that will flip on and the economy will come back roaring. Isnt that a little bit of projection of a perfect scenario here . Well, i think it can be done. Whether it will be done depends on execution. I thought congress did a great thing in passing their bill. I thought it was appropriately sized for this situation. The object is to keep everybody whole during the period when youre asking people to not go to their jobs and not go to the shops and basically not participate in the economy. Brennan right. So in some ways, the uptake on the Unemployment Insurance program is a good thing because it means youre getting the transfers to the people being disrupted by this healthordered shutdown. Brennan but when you talk about transfers, you know, we saw one of the emergency prgrams launched by the government, this 350 billion package to help Small Businesses, supposed to be up and operational this week, but thats not actually happening, according to some of the biggest banks like citi. Theyre not even accepting applications right now. What is the realworld impact of delays like that . Because the money is needed now. It sure is. And were in the middle of a national crisis, so you would expect some chaos, but we talked to the s. B. A. , the Small Business administration, on friday. They actually oridge in any in i potentiathat program to be nnanat abouthe size of this rescue package . The president said as recently as yesterday that he thinks there may need to be more money offered to Small Businesses than what has already been authorized by congress. Do you think we need a fourth rescue package . I felt like this one was well sized for the situation. I think most of the impact is going to come in the Second Quarter here, which just started a few days ago. If you think about the u. S. Economy in very round numbers, we produce about 5 trillion worth of goods and services, and, hence, 5 trillion worth of income every quarter. The shutdown means were onlo py workers working from home. Surely, thats less than 50 of the total economy. So income is going to be down 50 . If you said thats 2. 5 trillion, that sounds like about the number that congress came up with here. So in that sense,ening youve got the right amount of resources. The challenge is how are you going to get that to the right people that really have been disrupted . And thats the execution thrask we have here. But in principle, this is an understandable situation. We do not want people to go back to the basketball games. We do not want people to get on planes while people while this disease is ravaging the economy. So we want them to bably to pay bills, keep people whole during this crisis, and then well come out on the other side. Theres nothing wrong with the economy itself. The economy was actually doing quite well going into thisnnn t has that assumption, also built into it, consumer psychology, that people will feel safe enough to do the things that they did before. Do you think that this Global Economy is going to look the same on the other side of this pandemic . Are those jobs actually going to exist for people to go back to . You know, i have good news for you, margaret. There is a solution using Available Technology today to fix the economic part of this problem. The solution is universal testing. What you want is every Single Person to get tested every day, and then they would wear a badge, like they would after they voted or Something Like that, to show that theyve been tested. This would immediately sort out who has been infected and who hasnt been infected. That would help the health care sector. But it would also help the economy, because we could interact with each other with confidence. Brennan we will talk about that surveillance pu jst referenced there ahead. Stay with us. More face the nation. We find a way through it. Its about taking care of each other. Its the small parts that make a big difference. At chevy, we promise to do ours. Were offering current chevy owners onstar crisis assist services and complimentary wifi data. To help keep you on the road, the Chevy Certified Service experts are here and ready to help if you require parts, maintenance or repairs. You can even schedule your Service Appointments online. Its just our way of doing our part. 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Were open 24 7 online with tools and support to help your business stay connected at verizon. Com ready. Brennan well be right back with more face the nation. Te cothat we can still go out sort of. So while youre discovering new things to do in the box, well be here for you. At the drivethru, on the mobile app, and with delivery. While keeping safe and staying in, we can still go out sort of. So while yourg new things to do in the box, well be here for you. At the drivethru, on the mobile app, and with delivery. Face the nation. Michael dowling is the president and c. E. Oth welalth, the in new york state. He joins us this morning from long island. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much. Pleasure to be here. Brennan i know in addition to your day job, Governor Cuomo also asked you to help increase Hospital Capacity across the state. This morning, the defense secretary said that about 1,000 military medical professionals will be sent to new york today and tomorrow. Does that solve the problem . Is new york poised for this apex now . Yes, i think we are. Were as prepared as we can possibly be. Obviously, if another resource comes in from the federal government, that is great. As long as it is a resource that can help us. We have had a situation in new york where weve had federal assistance with the comfort ship on the west side of manhattan, and the Javitz Center and up to this point they havent been able to ntbecause e criteria they use for admission to the facility. To the extent they arrive here, to the extent they can be helpful, obviously, it is all great. We welcome all help, and we appreciate the offers, and if it all works, i think we will all be better off for it. Brennan is staffing the chief issue right now . Well, staffing is always an issue, because weve been in this now for a couple of weeks, and the intensive care staff, the physicians on the front lines, we have we have to use staff over and over. We have to put staff on all the time. We are getting staffing from around the United States. Were getting staff from upstate new york. So fiending capacity is one thing. You can create the beds. Thats the easiest part because you can create an i. C. U. Bed pretty much any place. We have plenty of beds. The issue becomes each and every day making sure you have the right staff with the right skill levels to make sure you can take care of the patients in the optimum way you want to take care of them. So, yes, staff is always an issue. But we are were well prepared at the moment. And we will be well prepared, no matter when that apex comes, whether its this week or next week. We will be prepared. Brennan there was a memo from northwell, from your company, published by politico, outlining guidance to medical staff, basically to help triage and decide who gets a ventilator and who gets to stay on one. Are we close to that point oha t point at all. We have sufficient ventilators for the foreseeable future, and we are obviously getting more supply. And Governor Cuomo has been a major, major quarterback in that effort. The policy that you reference is a draft policy. It is something that we like to prepare for the inevitability, in case we ever have to do something in the future, you have to have a policy prepared well in advance. I dont think we will ever get to that point. But it would be foolish to wait until you have a disaster and th to develop the policy during the situation. So this is all preparation. Its just a draft. Its not happening. We hope it never happens, but if it does, we are prepared. Brennan understood. If a party has to go on a ventilator, what is the chance of survival . What are you seeing . Well, what were seeing and i think its across all areas, all facilities that if you go on a ventilator, there is about a 20 chance that you will survive. We have had, obviously, patients survive off ventilators, but its about a 20 chance. And as you know, people are on ventilators a long period of time. But weve had successes. And the other thing i would just like to mention here because i think the p public can get not always the right information. We have had lots of people discharged from the hospital successfully after they have been treene,h and eveent for the covid virus, actually go home. That is success. Thats what weve got to also be talking about and thinking about and celebrating. Thats the good news. And i think good news is what Everybody Needs right now. Brennan what are you telling your hospital workers, the doctors and nurses, who work at all of your facilities . Do you have enough protective equipment for them . D whtsmazing heenoughottive eq. Times of crisis like this, peoples character reveals itself. You see extraordinary work being done by doctors and nurses. You see hospitals being retrofitted to put beds where beds never before existed. You see sadness among employees when things dont go well, but you see joy and celebration when there are successes. We are seeing, in many ways, the best of humanity. Im out meeting with the physicians and meeting with the staff on the front lines, and i can tell you that we should sit back and say how fortunate we have to havepl commitment, that compassion, that courage to do what it is theyre doing each and every day to protect the rest of us. We are very lucky with the Health Care System that we have. We are very, very, very fortunate. We should never forget about it. So when this is all over and when you can get close to people, eventually when social distancing is over with, for everybody out there, if youially a nurse and doctor on the front lines, please give them a hug. Dont do it today. Do it later because these brennan well clap. We will clap for now, as dr. Fauci recommended. Thank you, mike. Mike dowling there of northwell health. And we go to connecticut and former f. D. A. Commissioner scott gottlieb. Thank you for joining us again. Thanks. Brenna you just heard the descriptions there from hospitals on the front lines up in new york. Dr. Fauci was pretty direct. He said its not going to be an easy week. Do you believe that as he says, mitigation is working . Mitigation is clearly working. Were seeing cases slow in the northeast and the northern states. The sun belt is going to be in for a tough week. Were going to see cases in the i th the ew york ciy health syill be brought rigont go over. Theyre increasing capacity, really a historic effort, and i dont think theyre going to run out of ventilators. Theyre converting existing devices into ventilators and i think theyll keep pace with it. Its a historic effort under way in new york right now, and we should make no mistake what theyre doing to keep pace with the increased demand. The demand will likely peak in the next week or two, so well see a severe strain on the new york city Health Care System at the same time that the cases in the south start to accelerate. Brennan what are some of the lessons of what were seeing in new york right now . Were hearing and i know you have been tweeting about some of the unusual things, younger patients being hospitalized at alarming rates in new york, in particular. Why is that happening . Right. Well, woo dont understand. I mean, this infection is not just an infection causing severe outcomes in olderrer americans as was originally put forward. A the loof young people are having bad outcomes, intubated in the i. C. U. Wno comorbidities. There are pregnant women intubated and in hospitals right now. We need to understand that. There has been no serious publication by the c. D. C. Of the collective Clinical Experience in the United States right now. So doctors are making decisions based on anecdote and their own experience. Really no excuse for that. We need to get literatureut to inform what is working and what is not. You heard 70 to 80 of people who get intubated succumb to their infections. Doctors are experimenting with more fluids. Theyre experimenting with highflow oxygen. Theyre experimenting by putting patients in the prone position, meaning laying them on their stomachs when intubated. We should have literature published by the c. D. C. To delineate what is working and what is not so doctors have take a more systematic, datadriven approach to these things. Brennan tell me about the timeline. The president says we should be able as a country to hold Mass Gatherings like the Republican National committee in august. Is that too aggressive a timeline for you . I think things are going to be permanently changed coming out of this until we get to a vaccine and can fully vanquish this. Were not going to see a vshaped recovery or quick snapback absent the ability to get a highly effective drug in the hands of doctors to mitigate the risks, either used as a prophylactic or treat people who get the virus and are likely at high risk of a bad outcome. We can have that kind of drug by the summer, and certainly by the fall. I dont see the kind of deliberate, industrial, allhandsondeck approach to get that therapeutic. There are things promising that can be brought forward more quickly. This is going to be an 80 economy. People are not going to crowd into conferences. The marginal customer is not going back to movie theaters and cruises and disneyland, and we need to accept that. What changes that equation is technology but we need a deliberate approach to getting that technology quickly. Brennan you mentioned technology. The fed president from st. Louis mentioned technology. Dr. Fauci has mentioned technology and surveillance. Specifically, what does that look like . The United States of america and how far are we from getting that . Well, the massive Surveillance System that we need to detect inecckly wereo wel have the tools to do that. Well be able to identify cases when there are small outbreaks in the fall and casebased interventions, isolating people with the infection and their close contacts. We also need a drug used as a preventive tool, a prophylactic as a privilege to a vaccine or a treatment for people likely to have a bad outcome. There are four or five drugs i would say are in advanced stages that could be available by the summer. We need to try to pull them through more quickly. This is a time for placing bets. This is a time for an industrial approach to this. Its not happening right now. I think it needs to happen. Theres still time but we need to recognize how important that is. Otherwise, the scenarios of this country just snapping back and being something more than 80 economy just arent going to come to fruition. And we need to prepare for what it looks like when when you have a slower econed in the fl nnan i th sayere the science is not supportive of the economic theory that this is just going to be a sharp return to what was normal. Not unless we have the kind of breakthrough that we should be able to obtain. Like i said, one of these drugs should work. The strategy that looks the most promising are the antibodiybased drugs where you basically develop an antibodiy to target the viruses. There is every reason to believe this strategy should work. Its worked in other settings of viruses. We need to start pulling those through more quickly. There are a couple of antiviraln that look effective and maybe used early in the course of the disease will be effective. Nothing is a home run here. We dont need a home run. We need a better toolbox a good medicine cabinet, coupled with very aggressive surveillance. That could be enough to really change the contours of the risk in the fall and allow people to feel comfortable going back out again. Brennan all right, dr. Gottlieb, always good to talk to you. Thanks a lot. Brennan when we come back, a look at the devastating Financial Impact on some of our viewers who are Small Business owners themselves. Stay with us. What i love most about being a scientist at 3m is that im part of a community of problem solvers. We make ideas grow. From an everyday solution. To one that can take on a bigger challenge. We are solving problems that improve lives. Brushing only reaches 25 of your mouth. Ake on a bigger challenge. Listerine® cleans virtually 100 . Helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. Never settle for 25 . Always go for 100. Bring out the bold™ without more stimulus help and another bill, all of our favorite Small Businesses in our cities and towns might be lost forever. My business is a part of the gig economy, which means that we work large and small events, such as basketball games, football games, or concerts. So as long as people are not allowed to gather together, we have no prospect of making money. Ive had people that years, u know, like, these are my kids. Like, i feel responsibility towards them, like i do my own children. These kids arent sitting on savings accounts. Like, these are hourly workers. Theyre tipped workers. As a parent, to not know how to help your children through Something Like this. Its. Its a heartbreaking, you know. I dont know how t brennan those are just three stories from Business Owners who are facing some real financial uncertainty due to the coronavirus crisis. To help us put the experience inside context, we bring in cbs analyst Jill Schlesinger who joins us from long island. Jill, you just heard some painful, personal experiences. And we know, even if youre not one of the 10 million americans who just lost their job, this was tough. How should people at home be preparing . I think this is one of those backtobasics moments. You know, you hear these stories. I hear them all the time now,d. So what do you do with this information . You look at your own personal financial situation. You start priortizing your bills well in advance of anything bad happening. The Consumer Financial really goodbureau actually has a site, consumerfinance. Gov. And you prioritize. Obviously you put your food first, and then you go to your shelter, you go to your insurances. And if you have lost your job and you feel thwarted by your states Unemployment Insurance platform, keep trying, and also know if youve lost your Health Insurance coverage, the Affordable Care act actually allows you a special Enrollment Period if youve had a loss of income and a loss of a job. So you should absolutely check those things out. And be sure to know that if you ask landlords and Utility Companies for forbearance or aae most likely going to give that to you. Dont hide. Check out what you need to do, and ask for help where you need it. Brennan but for some of the Small Businesses that weve heard from, they are trying to ask for help, and they cant, actually, do it because the applications arent up and functioning at a lot of the banks that will be lending out the money as part of this government program. What are you hearing about whether the money set aside was enough and if this is going to get going soon . Well, i think that that frustration on friday was pretty dramatic. I must have gotten 100 different screenshots from people who had frustrations trying to apply, where the banks themselves were simply saying, we dont have enough information from the government. Then throughout the day it seemed to get a little bit better. I would say if youre a Small Business, be very careful. Go through the programs that are available on the s. Bweb frf is thi gh . My fear is that the way the program is set up is essentially for companies to be able to g ployeack on their payrolls, and they may not be up and running in two or three months. We got data out, or a poll out, rather, from the chamber of commerce, and when they polled a number of smallBusiness Owners, 24 said theyre going to be out of business within two months. Diswrb. Brennan wow. So weve got to get the money faster to these people. Theyneed help. Brennan does the economy look the same on the other side of this crisis . I have been interviewing economists for the last, say, six weeks, and the views have really changed pretty dramatically from week to week. I dont think we will have an economy that is the same when we come out of this. You heard dr. Gottlieb talk about an 80 economy. Youve heard different people say that theres going to be winners and losers out of this. What i know in my heart, and i think what most us are experiencing, is this is a onceinageneration kind of recession. It is going to be worse than the great recession. We are going to come out of this. But we are very clear in this this economy and all of us will be changed forever. Brennan jill, thank you for your insight. Sure. Brennan and we have more of those stories from Business Owners on our web site at facethenation. Com. We have this programming note for you scott pelley reports tonight on 60 minutes how restaurants and other Small Businesses are being impacted, and how theyre trying to help out others. Scott spoke with new york restaurateur and the founder of shake shack, danny myer, tonight on 60 minutes. Bubbles at this price . Is this for real . Oh. Its real. Believe me. I mean, this is unexpected. You would say, remarkable . Absolutely. A remarkable deal thanks, i get that all the time. Wait what . grocrey outlet jingle wow. I think ill take two. For the love oh. My wife never gets home in time to see little man go to sleep. Her bus stop is a mile away. I wish i could at least walk home with her. Im completing the 2020 census for my family. My response can impact how public funding is spent in my community. That could mean education for little man and a closer bus stop for her. relieved, loving hey. Hey. Shape your future. Start here. Complete the census at 2020census. Gov. Brennan isolation, stress, uncertainty are just a few of the Mental Health challenges affecting the country during this crisis. Dr. Luana marques is the president of the anxiety and Depression Association of america. She also teaches at harvard and practices at massachusetts geeral hospital in boston. Thats where she joins us from this morning. Doctor, it is really hard to think of any kind of comparative event to what we are going through right now. The president has said he expects massive drug use, massive depression, massive numbers of suicide, disease. As a medical professional, is that the Mental Health impact that youre seeing . Margaret, its really difficult for a lot of my patients, and certainly the Mental Health of the country in general. I think before we even talk about the magnitude, its important for us to first remind our country that it is okay not to be okay right now. Its important to remind our country that its okay to have strong emotions. This is why as we turn on the news every morning and were hearing stories of death, of loss of economy, of grief and sadness, we quickly start to feel our heart pounding and feel the sense of tension, anxiety, and fear. And that is our normal fightorflight response, our biologically adaptive response in moments of tension. We just heard the president and dr. Fauci talk about the next week being a very difficult week. So the first thing i want to talk about before we even get to the magnitude of this, is to remind our fellow americans, all of us might have some of this adaptive response, and thats okay. It just, up to a point, eventually it does become too much. Brennan so what are you telling people to do about that . There are three things that i think are really important for us to do, margaret. The first one is to remember that we are under a state of fight or flight, and we need to do anything to cool off our brain. The three ways you can do right now if youre sitting at home. The first one is to remember to unplug and to anchor. And what i mean here is give your brawn a break from the news a little bit. Allow your brain to settle. And i know its hard to do it right now. By unplugging youre bringing down the fight or flight. And i encourage you to anchor on something to cool your brain off walking, meditation, call a friend. The second thing i urge all of us to do and this is not optional is to charge up. Is to be able to eat, sleep, and exercise. Those three things are things we know help our Mental Health but also help your immune system. Figure out what youre going to do, how youre going to do it, and why youre going to do it. Gets you going. For me ive been walking and exercising because its important for me to stay healthy for my family and for my patients. Finally, i urge us to be of service. We know that helping others not only makes them feel better but also ourselves. So lets call an elderly neighbor. If you can afford it, send food to those that actually need it. Or, if youre sitting at home and you know how to sew, lets sew masks and help those that need it right now. Brennan what about those who dont have the luxury of staying home, the medical workers, in particular . How do you counsel them to continue going back in and helping people when they themselves may be in distress . So some of the techniques i mentioned are important for them. Youre absolutely right, margaret. Theyre really suffering. I did a webinar at Harvard Medical School this week for first responders. And i heard questions like, what do i do if im about to have a meltdown in the emergency room . How do i cool off my brain after an 18hour shift . And thats not unique to the harvard community. We are seeing this globally. New research coming out from china shows the frontline responders are reporting 50 more depression, 40 more anxiety, and 35 are reporting difficulty sleeping. So im going to urge them to really figure out how to cool off their brain. One of the suggestions i gave to a friend who is a doctor is if you are in the emergency room and youre rushing around and youre about to go from room a to b, take a moment to breathe, just 30 seconds. You can cool off your brain. Turn your phone off for a little bit. Transition, im going home without listening to the news am. And rely on your fellow first responders. They are your social support, and they are here for you. As Mental Health professionals, we are also here for you. Brennan all right, doctor, thank you for your advice. And for all of you who are at home and might be feeling overwhelmed with emotions, like depression and anxiety, you can visit adaa. Org for information on coping strategies. You can call the disaster you can call the disaster distress help line at 18009855990. We use verizon throughout our entire day. Its an integral part of how our practice runs. We need our project managers and our superintendents to be able to communicate. We dont have to be together to work together. vo at verizon, were here, and were ready. Were open 24 7 online with tools and support to help your business stay connected at verizon. Com ready. Brennan thats it for us today. Until next week, be safe. For face the nation, im margaret brennan. 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