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Now you launched our campaign on the path to deeffect donald trump. This campaign is take off. Brennan with 14 states up for grabs in just two days, bidens victory gives a boost to establishment democrats hoping to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. There are a lot of states in this country. Nobody wins them all. Brennan well talk with vermont senator Bernie Sanders about the race. Plus, as the coronavirus cri prompts questions of whether or not the u. S. Is ready to handle a pandemic, the politics of preparedness becomes a big issue. I dont think its inevitable. It probably will. It possibly will. Brennan now the Trump Administration faces a crisis of its own calming and reassuring the american public. We are preparing for the worst. We are ready. We are ready. There is no reason to panic. Brennan but its been a rough week of mixed messages and attacks on familiar targets. T was was covering their hoax of the day because they thought it would bring down the president. Now the democrats are politicizing the co hax. Brennan health and Human Services secretary alex aczar and former f. D. A. Commissionegne taliban to end the war in afghanistan. Secretary of state mike pompeo is just back from that signing ceremony with the taliban, and we will talk to him. All that and more is just ahead on face the nation. Brennan good morning, and welcome to face the nation. It was a knockout win for former Vice President joe biden last night in the South Carolina primary. He got nearly half the vote coming in close to 30 points ahead over his closest competitor, senator Bernie Sanders. Cbs News Elections and surveys director Anthony Salvanto is here to tell us more. So, anthony, how did joe biden do this . Good morning, margaret. Big keys for him, first of all, am whenning support from black voters. That was key and they make up most of the electorate in South Carolina. That was really helped by an endorsement from representative jim clyburn, most influential African American politician in the state, more saying that was important than not. And then, finally, big support among those looking for electability, that somebody they feel can go on to beat donald trump in november. The question now, margaret, is can joe biden parlay that argument into super tuesday . Brennan and well ge details and forecasts on super tuesday ahead, anthony. We turn now to senator Bernie Sanders. He is on the campaign trail in norfolk, virginia. Good morning to you, senator. Good morning, margaret. Brennan is this now a twoman race . Well, all i can say is we have won the popular vote in iowa. We won the New Hampshire primary. We won the nevada caucus. We lost last night. Were looking forward to super tuesday. I think weve got a great chance to win in california, in texas, in massachusetts, and a number of states around the country. Brennan South Carolina is the First Southern state. Does that indicate anything to you about your prospects in places like virginia and North Carolina . Will joe biden really challenge you there . Well, were going to see. I mean, i think based on the polling, were doing pretty well in virginia. I think weve got a shot in North Carolina. All i can say is the issues we are talking about and that is health care as a human right, raising the minimum wa wge,ealiy with the existential threat of Climate Change those are ideas, margaret, i think areinat chance to do well on tuesday and win the democratic nomination. Brennan joe biden is blanketing the airwaves this morning. We know from your campaign you raltzed 46 million in february. Thats a significant number. What do you think that does for you going into super tuesday . What edge . Well, margaret, it is not only it is not only the amount of money that we raise and that is a phenomenal amount. It is how we raised it. We dont have a superpac like joe biden. I dont go to rich peoples homes like joe biden. I think joe has contributions from more than 40 billionaires. What we have done is received more Campaign Contributions from more americans than any candidate in the history of the United States, averaging 18. 50. This is a campaign of, whoing people and by working people, and im extraordinarily proud of that. But we have enough money now, not only to take us through super tuesday, but to take us through the entire process, fueled by the contributions of working class people all across this country. Brennan your Campaign Said that if you are the nominee, you wont accept the financial help that Michael Bloomberg has offered. He sid he would extend it to any party nominee. Do you really want to turn down his bankroll . Well, look, mr. Bloomberg is free to do anything he can with his 60 billion. And thats legal. With all i can say is at this point, we are confident that we can receive the kind of Campaign Funding thaty wo we need from working class and middleclass people, that we dont have to be beholden to any powerful special interest. Look, one of the things that upsets people brennan so you would accept it . I didnt say that. What i would say is he has the right to do anything he wants. Right now, we are confident, margaret, based on the fundraising that we are doing, is that we can beat trump. Brennan but you have a democratic socialist. You have never officially entered the democratic party. In fact, you constantly criticize democratic establishment. So how can you convince the country that you are the best candidate to unify democrats and challenge President Trump . Well, two points. Im a member of the democratic leadership. Ive been in the Democratic Caucus from virtually my first day back in congress 30 years ago. And in the state of vermont, where i live, im supported by democrats. Ive won the democratic primary. But we will win because we have an agenda that speaks to independents, to democrats, and to more than a few republicans. Look, we are living in a time when the American People are sick and tired of the kind of income and wealth inequality that exists in america. All over this country, margaret and i have been all over this country you have millions of people working 11, 12 bucks an hour. They cant afford child care, they cant afford health care. Theyre scared to death of their retirement. They want a government that represents them, glowft Billionaire Campaign contributors. Thats how you win. You put together that coalition, multigenerational, multiracial. That is what were doing. No campaign out there has a strong are Grassroots Movement than we do. Thats how you beat trump. And by the way, almost all of the National Polls out there, last 70 polls, 65 of them, i think, have us beating trump. Were beating him in battleground states like pennsylvania, wois, and michigan. We can beat trump. Brennan you have rallies planned out in california. There is very much a concern about the spread of the coronavirus on the west coast. Is it safe for you . You have spoken to any government officials about whether people can really appear at your rally and not worry about their own health . Well, actually, we have. I mean, thats a very fair question, and my campaign has spoken to Public Health officials on that issue. And right now, we are planning to do rallies, not only in california, but in utah, minnesota, and other states around the country. Brennan youve been sparring with the proisrael lobby, known as apac. You said it gives a program fora swipe at Prime Minister netanyahu. Today the u. N. Ambassador says of you youre not welcome in that country, and anybody who calls our Prime Minister a racist is either a liar, an ignorant fool, or both. Do you see a political cost in taking on the proisrael lobby in this way . Yeah, i do. I mean, they have a lot of money. They have a lot of power. Look, im jewish, and im very proud of my jewish heritage. As a kid i spent time in april. I am not into antiisrael. I will do everything i can to protect the security and freedom of israeli people. But what we need this this country is a Foreign Policy that on the only protects israel but deals with the suffering of the Palestinian People as well. Youve got 70 youth unemployment in gaza. People cant even leave that district, that area. Major, major crises. It is not sustainable. There will be continued conflict in the middle east until the United States develops an evanhanded policy. I am proisrael. I am propalestinian. I want to bring people together to finally achieve peace in that region. Brennan i want to ask you on Foreign Policy, the president just authorized a deal with the taliban. What do you think of that . Because if youre commander in chief, you would either follow through with it or awf s. Tros . I dont have enough details in that peace agreement. Needless to say, its going to have to go through the afghan government. One of the difficulties to be very honest, margaret, in dealing with trump, its very hard to believe anything that he says, whether its the coronavirus, whether it whats going on in afghanistan. But it is my view that the United States and i speak as somebody who helped lead the opposition to getting us into the war in iraq it is my view that weve got to end endless wars, that when we have 500,000 people in america sleeping out to the street and people cant afford health care, we have to invest in this country, not in endless wars. Brennan all right, senator sanders, thank you for joining us. Former new york mayor Michael Bloomberg has not yet appeared on a ballot, but that will change tuesday. He sat down with our scott pelley yesterday in an in previ. Reporter how do you view this emergency . I find it incomprehensible that the president would do somethinga inane as calling it a hoax, which he did last night in South Carolina. Reporter he said the democratting making so much of it is a democratic hoax, not that the virus was a hoax. This is up to the scientists and the doctors as to whether there is a problem. They all around the world say that it is in some place placesd has enormous potential to become one elsewheres. And it is just ignorant and irresponsible to not stand up and be the leader and say, we dont know, but we have to prepare for the fact that if it is, we have the medicines and the structure, and the knoeaer with mayor bloomberg will air tonight on 60 minutes. Face the nation will be back in one minute. Stay with us. Brennan we want to take a closer look at the growing fears over covid19, commonly referred to as the coronavirus. Last week, the World Health Organization said the global risk of the virus spreading is now very high. Here in the u. S. , there are now 71 cases of coronavirus, and worldwide, the death toll isgle. Here in the u. S. , the stock market took its biggest hit last week since the 2008 financial crisis. We begin today with health and Human Services secretary alex azar. Good to have you here. Glad to be here. Thank you for having me. Brennan so we just had the First American death on u. S. Soil out in Washington State. What do we know about how the virus was contracted and how much it has spread . So, this individual and we just want to express our sympathy, certainly, for his family and for all who are suffering from the coronavirus this individual was in the hospital out in california out in washington. We do not know how he contracted the virus yet. And so thats why we and the state of washington are deployed out there to try to trace who he had contact with and how he might have gotten the virus. Thats why we call it right now a potential community case, meaning we dont have a discernible connection to any nca intct with anyone. Pacted ae he just showed up sick at the hospital . We have no evidence so far that establishes a connection to somebody who traveled to an impacted area, and so we do not know how he contracted the virus. Thats the basic blocking and tackling right now of Public Health is were going to trace the people that he had contact with. Were going to trace the other cases. Theres a nursing home that sends parties to this hospital, and there are cases in that nursing home. But who spread to whom, we do not know yet. Brennan the president yesterday when he was speaking referred to this fatality as a woman. It is a man. It is. Brennan how is i mistake like that made because people are very nervous right now, and getting some of these basic facts right affects public trust. Well, i understand that. Its a very fastmoving situation. Our centers for Disease Control and prevention were up late at night, very early in the morning, working with the Washington State Public Health d inaccuraty recoed that the inofdividufialce was a feal. Thats what the president was briefed on. Theyve apologized for incorrectly briefing on that. But its a very fastmoving situation. Obviously, we regret the brennan given that it is so fast moving, what are your projections now . How Many Americans do you expect to come down with this virus . So what your viows the risk e americans remains low. We are working to keep it low. We will see more transmission of cases in the United States. Weve got the finest Public Health system in the world here. This is when we do. We cannot make predictions as to how many cases well have, but we will have more, and we will have more community cases. Its simply just a matter of math. Brennan well, you have to have a number youre working with in order to make sure you have adequate supply, things like testing kits, right . How far are we on shortages . You may not want to tell me the number but you have one in your head. No, we dont. We do not use because it is an unknown, the epidemiological sprepped of this virus in a highly developed Health Care System with the most aggressive containment measures in the history of the United States, it is unknown how that will spread. In terms of testing kits, weve already tested over 3600 people for the virus. We now have 70 the capability in the field to test 75,000 people, and within the next week or two, well have a radical expans brennan in Washington State, in places that have declared emergencies, even shutting down schools, i mean, they are projecting numbers themselves. They might make projections of numbers themselves, but we are not. Well take aggressive Public Health measures. Its what we Call Community mitigation steps. So depending on the name of the disease, and depending on what we learn from these inthefield investigations, the state and local government will take measures appropriate to contain the spread of the disease. Brennan so in france, they shut downthe louvre museum. Theyre telling people dont kiss. Dont shake hands. In japan theyre closing schools for months. Canadas Health Minister told their people to start stockpiling food. In the u. S. As we just said, closures in washington and oregon. And the c. D. C. Said this week disruption to everyday lif mighbe severe. Ght, miht. s dohata ad they are concerned. Theres about a 2 fatality rate. And i appreciate that people are concerned, nd that is why were being radically transparent ght be, but also might not be with aggressive containment and mitigation steps. Right now, its important for people to understand, were not advising any types of particular measures in the United States like travel restrictions or closures. State or local Public Health offices, which are the front lines of response, might make their own decisions to do that. But at this point, we do not have sufficient spread in the United States that would indicate those measures, but were not taking any of them off the table. The full range of options will always remain on the table. Brennan in a crisis, you need public trust. Uhhuh. Brennan and the Inspector General announced this week that they are looking into this complaint by a whistleblower that your agency did not provide adequate training or equipment to those workers who went to receive and welcome back americans who had been evacuated from wuhan, china, and those workers were not tested for the virus after they had that contact. Have you personally looked into thesllegations. Im personally involved in doing so. Brennan so can you say this wasnt something that tipped off the spread on the west coast . That is absolutely not the case. So, first, we take the protection of our employees very seriously. Second, we want to make sure isolation and quarantine procedures are followed as appropriate. Third, we appreciate the whistleblower bringing forward any concerns. We are aggressively,lyin, lookig into to see if there is validity to the concerns. What the American People need to know is we now have passed well over 14 days since any h. H. S. Employee had contact with the individuals involved. They are not nobody is symptomatic. Nobody has the disease. Even if these allegations prove to be true, there was no spreading the disease from this. And we have offered, even though it is not medically indicated, we have offered to test any h. H. S. Employees involved if they would like that extra peace of mind, we want to do that for employees. Brennan there are cases of coronavirus in mexico and canada. Yester inson border. What will cide that . Are you looking at that . Thats not one of the highest Priority Areas that were,lying at right now, because mexico only has a couple of cases. Canadas epidemiology is somewhere with the United States right now. What the president is making clear is we will always be looking at travel restrictions, border protections. We will take whatever measures are appropriate and necessary to protect the American People, but we dont forecast doing that any time soon. Brennan do you expect drug shortages, as some senators have highlighted concerns there could be, because of disruption to the supply chain. Were very concerned about the intermingling of our supply chain with china, in particular. The f. D. A. Has gone out and worked proactively with drug manufacturers, and there are 20 drugs for which the entire molecule or at a critical element of the molecule is made exclusively in china. And so were working aggressively with the manufacturers to determine if is there are any shortages. We are aware of one drug which has many, many replacements in terms of that therapeutic class available that may be in shortage for a short period of time. Brennan what drug is that . Because its commercially confidential information submitted voluntarily to us, im not able to discuss that. But this is a drug in a class where there are man, many, many alternatives available. Its a generic drug, very available. Brennan all right, mr. Secretary, thank you for your time. And we will be right back with another cabinet official, secretary of state mike pompeo, secretary of state mike pompeo, so stay with us mheir business. second man virtualize their operations. third man and could even build ai into their customer experiences. We also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. Like 5g. woman where machines could talk to each other and expertise could go anywhere. woman when it comes to digital transformation, verizon keeps business ready. Officially hitting the us. Virus man the markets are plunging for a second straight day. Vo Health Experts warn the us is underprepared. Managing a crisis is what Mike Bloomberg does. In the aftermath of 911, he steadied and rebuilt americas largest city. Oversaw Emergency Response to natural disasters. Upgraded hospital preparedness to manage health crises. Ansngti to manage health crises. Research to contain epidemics. Tested. Ready. Mike im Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message. And that was all you knew, would you really understand it, with just that point of view . Weve got a different way to look at it, from right here on the ground. We dont just the United States we see united towns. Were grateful for what you bring, and all the sparks youve shown, in the thousands of towns that we get to call home. Brennan yesterday, the u. S. Signed a deal with the taliban that may lead to a full withdrawal of u. S. Troops from afghanistan. Since it began in 2001, the war has claimed the livrops. Secretary of state mike pompeo is just back from the signing ceremony in dohar. He got off the plane just a short while ago and thank you for being here, mr. Secretary. Thank you. Brennan so this is significant. And according to the deal that was released, the u. S. Will bring down troops to 8,600 in the next 135 days. And then if conditions are met, a tojts withdrawal within 14 months. But the president said yesterday if bad things happen, well go back in. Whats the benchmark there . Yes, maam. This was an historic day. American blood and treasure had been expended in this place for an awfully long time. We went there after 9 11. No one still feels the anger of that day any more than i do. But it was time. And the taliban knew it was time. President trump has allowed us to take the fight to the taliban these last two years. And we have done so. Its why they, for the first time, have announced that theyre prepared to break with their historic ally, al qaeda, who theyve worked with, much to the detriment of the United States of america. You can read the document. The taliban have now made the break. They said they will not permit terror to be thrust upon anyone, including the United States, from afghanistan. This is historic in that way. And no one should underestimate the Trump Administration. You can see our worcounterrrors albaghdadi, the work that we didicancy someneni. We will defend and protect the American People every place we battle against terror, whether theres afghanistan or any of the other places we push back each and of day. Brennan how long would it take to get u. S. Troops out . Youre saying this is based on conditions. Upon that means the taliban has to follow through on a few things. What would make the president hit brakes and stop the withdrawal . I cant get into hypotheticals, but there is a detailed set of commitments the taliban has made about the levels of violence that can occur, the nature of whats got to take place. We are hopeful in the coming days there will be intraafghan negotiationnegotiations that cos well. That has not happened before. It will be rocky and bumpy. Nobody is under any false illusionillusions that this wona difficult conversation, but that conversation for the first time in almost two decades will be among the afghan people, and thats the appropriate place for that conversation to take place. Were prepared to do what it takes to be sure we keep america safe. Weve asked everyone there to reduce want level of violence, both the Afghan National Security Forces and the taliban. Brennan but President Trump said hes going to meet with the taliban in the near future. When . Where . Is that camp david . I dont know when. I dont know where. Im very confident that President Trump wants to make sure that everyone in afghanistan wants to understand that the United States is committed to making sure that this conversation takes place. We have been at this an awfully long time. You recounted the loz of more than life. There is a better path forward because of the work we have done and President Trump will be actively engaged in helping us get the conditions right and beginning this journey. The first step was taken in dohar yesterday. Brennan we will take a break and continue the conversation on the other side of it. Please stay with us. We hope you will, too. We need s. Thats easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. And we can monitor to see that were on track. Like schwab intelligent income. Schwab introducing schwab intelligent income. A simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. Oh, thats cool. I mean, we dont have that. Schwab. A modern approach to wealth management. With a nationleading 150 billion commitment to infrastructure, were creating state of the art, 21st century transportation hubs, constructing new bridges, bringing highspeed internet to every corner of the state, and committing to lowcost clean energy. 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So when candidates say we cant guarantee health care for all, make College Affordable for all, combat Climate Change, or create a world at peace, remember that america is best when we strive to do big things, even when its hard. Im Bernie Sanders and i approve this message. Brennan welcome back to face the nation. And we are continuing our conversation with secretary of state mike pompeo who is just back in the u. S. After signing a deal with the afghanistan in doha. You are the first cabinet official to ever meet with a member of the taliban. I think you met with one of the founding members of the taliban involved. I met with a senior negotiator yesterday, yes. Brennan you called them terrorists in the pasill cnsidem terrorists . They have an enormous amount of american blood on their hands. Brennan and in a partnership with al qaeda. The gentleman i met with agreed they would break that relationship and work alongside of us to destroy, deny resources to, and have al qaeda depart from that place. Brennan and you trust that . Dont trust anything. Were going to deliver. Its about actions. The agreement set out the conditions, it set out the space. But, no, this deal doesnt depend upon trusting anyone. It has a deep, complex, wellthoughtout, multimonth negotiated verification complex and mechanism by which we can observe and hold every member of the agreement accountable. Well do that. Its not about trust. Its with about what happens on the ground, not only yesterday which was an important day but in the days that follow. Brennan the u. S. Pledged in this agreement which is public, as you say that it ll hel get to 5,000 taliban prisoners released. The president of afghanistan, says no way, no how. Nothinthsed in thext 10 help release 5,000 prisoners . You saw what the document says. It says we will work work brennan what the president is saying is wrong . We will work with all relevant parties to build on confidence to create confidence Building Measures amongst all of the parties the afghan government, nontaliban other ands in the afghan we want this to be an inclusive process. We want women we want to involve there will be lots of people saying things. There will be lots of noise. Everyone is comet 52ing for attention and time in the media. What matters is the actions that we take, the discussions that we had. We have come a long ways. And we worked not only yesterday while i was in doha, we were kabul. They made a declaration. There was a commitment from the afghan government, too. Weve made a lot of progress. No one is under any illusion that this will be straightforward. We built an important base where we can begin to bring american soldiers home, reduce the risks of the loss of life of any american in afghans afghan peope can build a peaceful resolution to their for now what for them is a 40year struggle. Brennan putting 5,000 or up to 5,000 fighters back in the field would have a Significant Impact on any implementation, one would think. Do you expect this action to happen . There have been prisoner releases from both sides before. Well know who these people are. We are work to build a set of confidence measures that will do for america what President Trump has committed reduce our cost in blood and treasure and keep america safe from terrorism. I dont think any american can doubt President Trumps seriousness of that. Brennan wasnt very happy with you this week, she released a public letter saying there are problems with this. You are pretending that the taliban can be counterterrorism partners and saying the taliban is still allied with al qaeda, and pointed out you personally, when you were a member of congress, she suggested, wouldnt accept a deal like this, that you raised concerns about secret side deals that the Obama Administration had cut with iran back then. So that any i remember it well, yes. Brennan she says there are secret annexes to this deal. Im happy to talk with her. Brennan are there . There are no annexes that members of Congress Wont have a chance to see. Brennan meaning there are classified details that will be shared with congress . The Public Document was released yesterday. There are two implementing elements that will be provided. They are secret. They are military implementation documents that are important to protect our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines. Every member of congress will have a chance to see them. There werent any side deals. The side deals i was complaining about were the deals america never got to see. This is a fully transparent agreement. Brennan so theres no deal to keep a certain u. S. Military presence in afghanistan . The document that was made public yesterday is the complete agreement. The implementing elements of that will be available for every member of congress to see. Know this i saw what aous amou of respect for her. The American People should know, donald trump is not going to take words a paper. Were going to see if the taliban are prepared to live up to the commitments they made. The Bush Administration and the Obama Administration both tried to get the words that were on the paper yesterday, that the taliban would break from al qaeda publicly. We got that. Thats important. Now time will tell if they live up to that commitment. It is our expectation. They have promised they will do so, and we will be able to see on the ground everything they choose to do. 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Virus man the markets are plunging for a second straight day. Vo Health Experts warn the us is underprepared. Managing a crisis is what Mike Bloomberg does. In the aftermath of 911, he steadied and rebuilt americas largest city. Oversaw Emergency Response to natural disasters. Upgraded hospital preparedness to manage health crises. And hes funding Cutting Edge Research to contain epidemics. Tested. Ready. Mike im Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message. Brennan that was businessman tom stier doing a little preprimary dance in South Carolina. He did come in third, but he had hoped to do better. Night. Dropped out of the race the rest of thdans tis tuesday4 states will hold contests, among them, california and texas. We have some new cbs news Battleground Tracker numbers for both of them. Out in california, senator support. Former Vice President joe biden and massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren come in beind sanders with 19 and 18 , respectively. Former new york city mayor Michael Bloomberg has 12 , and the rest of the field comes in at under 10 . Looking to texas, the race is tighter. Bernie sanders is in the lead here with 30 , but joe biden close behind him with 26 . And Elizabeth Warren comes in at 17 support. Michael bloomberg is at 13 , and the rest of the field comes in at 6 or less. Joining us once again is cbs News Elections and surveys director Anthony Salvanto. And we want to bring in cbs news Political Correspondent ed okeefe. Ed, this was a big and muchneeded win for joe biden in South Carolina. What does this mean for him going into tuesday . Reporter well, his team would tell you this is the momentum they need to convince any latedeciding voter who is not a fan of Bernie Sanders to side with them instead. Their hope is that by the end of tuesday, he emerges as the clear alternative to sanders. Its pretty mathematically impossible, based on what polling is showing us right now, for somebody to surpass sanders, especially because hes going to have such a big win, it looks like, in places like california. But theyre hoping, the biden team is, in the next few days theyre able to raise millions of dollars and, again, convince people he is the leading alternative. Brennan does he have the enthusiasm that you say sanders supporters have . Reporter that remains a key difference between these cndidates which is Bernie Sanders supporters are the most enthusiastic of all the top candidates. Thats why his numbers remain so stable. Those folks turn out for him. But joe biden still has a challenge in that regard. His supporters are less enthusiastic about him. Can he motivate them to turn out . I think it remains a key question. Look, to that point, when you look at california, texas, at these big delegate hauls, the democrats give out delegates just to top finishers. So they could very conceivable end up splitting the delegates along with these other candidates and we move on into the spring. Brennan and there are a lot of delegates at stake here on tuesday. 1,344, about 30 of whats needed for the nomination. So, ed, how do the candidates sort of crack the threshold . Explain some of the math here. Reporter so there are essentially two numbers to look at on tuesday night. Theres the perception number who wins the state . Who can say they walked away winning the most states . But the more important number ultimately is the nomination number. Who gets closest to get the 1,90 or 91 delegates you need to get over the threshold and win that take off. Reporter it is not. You have to hit 15 in each Congressional District and in the states. So the numbers to look for are pif you look at our california and texas numbers right now, Mike Bloomberg is in trouble because hes not hitting 15 . This could have been a very expensive overuse of his money if he cant hit 15 in those two states. This is why, despite not winning anything so far, Elizabeth Warren is still in this race. Because she sees shes doing well enough in california and in texas and in a few of these other states, likely, that she can get above 15 and keep a pool of delegates that keeps her in the race going into later march and april. And that bloomberg number you talk about is so critical because if he does do just well enough to pick up delegates, f he picks up delegates in some regions of these states, even he doesnt win them, that changes the math for everybody else. Now, hes a player, but if he falls just short of it, then all those delegates can do to other top candidates, to a baden or to a sundayers and that changes the mact Going Forward for them. Brennan can 200 million in ad spinp reportlduying threteadvertino talk about the coronavirus. And trying to cast himself as somebody who is a competent manager, who could probably help solve this problem, and would have tackled it sooner than the president. He can spend as much as he wants, but if he doesnt hit 15 in these states on tuesday, it will have been for naught, essentially. Certainly, they believe that they can go on into florida and arizona and illinois next and try to compete in later march contests. But perhaps the biggest loser last night in South Carolina was Mike Bloomberg because joe biden did so well. They need biden to stumble or only win narrowly to help make the argument he support better alternative. Brennan it couldnt have felt good for tom steyer to have spent almost it wil 300 millio. South carolina was his petri dish. If he could do it anywhere, but he couldnt. Brennan headlines are now saying this is a twoperson race but there are still multiple people on the field. It remains a multiperson case. If you look at Bernie Sanders, despite the enthusiasm he has, can he grow it . When we ask folks, most of the people supporting sanders say theyve already liked him. Theyve liked him for a long time. But far fewer have said theyve taken a second or third look at him as hes won these early states. Can we translate any success hes had into momentum Going Forward and build on that 25 , that 30 that hes already got . That, i think, remains a question. Reporter this will not be clean. It will be a messy contest. Because we have so many candidates. We are down to seven, the magnificent seven, going into tuesday. Will the field shrink after tuesday . Probably. If youre somebody who can hit viebility, 15 in these states. Brennan if makes for political watching. Reporter and very little sleep. Brennan well gear up for that with both of you. Thank you. Well be right back. 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He expects excellence out of everyone, but he also provides the kind of support that allows you to be that person. Mike called to tell me, you should be proud of what youve done and your name should be on that project. He has faith in you, he believes in you. It was about always showing up and doing your best. I always knew that he had my back. He was raised by an extraordinary woman, she supported him all along the way and thats very much a part of who he is. Mike supports women, he promotes women, and he respects women. Quijano for a closer look at how prepared we are for the coronavirus here in the u. S. Wt. Commissioner and physician dr. Scott gottlieb. Good to you have here. You served in the Trump Administration. What do you think the administration is doing now that is right, wrong, in its handling of the virus . Well, certainly expanding the diagnostic capability is the right move. Were going to have the capacity by the end of the week to diagnose 10,000 people a day or screen 10,000 people a day with the Public Health labs, 100 labs doing 100 tests a day. By the end of the week will bring on another 10,000. We will have Testing Capacity perhaps as much as 20,000 a day once we bring on the academic labs. That was the critical step, bringing on the academic labs and bringing on their capacity. These are the Major Medical centers. What we need to do now is make a real concerted effort to make a therapeutic. We dont know when its going to end and our savior is going to be our technology, and we need toic make a really robust effort to try to. Bnnan meaning a treatment. A treatment or vaccine. A treatment will be more likely to be available. A vaccine is longer way off. We knew once the onceinageneration strain, what we would have to depend on is our science, and something to stop it, like a treatment or vaccine. A treatment we could have by september, october, potentially. Brennan more testing means more positive results . Youre saying basically to expect the number of those being diagnosed with the virus to increase . Its going to increase. Right now there are probably hundreds or low thousands of cases. Brennan hundreds or low thousands of cases in the United States . That havent been reported yet. Its a big country. So anyones individual risk is still very low. But we need to get those cases diagnosed and identified so we can start getting people quarantined and into treatment and prevent more spread. We need to start mitt gaith the the spread. Theres an analysis out by trevor bradford, looking at the gic strains in Washington State, and looking at the strains and the drifts of the people who have been diagnosed there, he suggested there are perhaps hundreds and may low thousandses of cases. Its an interesting analysis. There probably are more cases. We have Community Spread in Washington State, california, perhaps illinois, oregon. So certainly hundreds of cases. Brennan has the administration been slow in its avel, which was controversial at the time, clearly bought us time. It slowed the introduction of the virus into the country. The virus was probably here at that time, but it slowed additional cases. The question is what did we do with that time . I think there are some things we did that were very smart. We got the country prepared. One of the mistakes, one of the challenges was getting the diagnostic testing in place. I think what we should have done i dont want to armchair quarterback this we relied on the c. D. C. , we always rely on the c. D. C. In a Public Health emergency. But simultaneously to that we should have been reaching out and trying to get the laboratorydeveloped tests into the game and the manufacturers who have the diagnostic capability. We have done that. A couple of weeks went by, and they did that. That is now in place. Those labs are going to be coming on line. We course corrected. I think what it teaches us, if you are,lying back, what is a teachable moment, dont take a linear approach to these crises. Take an alloftheabove approach. We cant put all of our eggs in vaccine basket. We need to be looking at an all of the above approach. If case one doesnt work out, we have other options. Brennan you are suggest thata catn the armaceutical companies. I think we need to look at the companies that can develop the antibod prophylactics as r a small molecule drug currently on the shelf, trying to epurpose it. Brennan the n. I. H. Director, anthony fowchy from what hes seen, if you get infected you are unlikely to get reinfected. If someone has mild or moderate symptoms, how do you know to go and get tested . Thats the challenge here. You dont. There isnt the the spectrum of disease here is wide. A lot of people are a symptomatic but they are still infected and can still transfer the virus and a small percentage get sick. Its probably the 80 that are mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic that are spreading it. Those who get sick dont get sick right away. The time to hospitalization is nine to 12 days. They start off with coldlike symptoms and get progressively more ill. There was a very interesting analysis in the new england journal of medicine two weeks ago that looked at viral lode and viral spreading across the spectum are of disease, and the people mildly symptomatic spread as much virus as those sick. Thats atypical. Typically the amount of virus you have to shed, in some diseases, comports with how much virus you have. Brennan doctor, thank you very much for coming on aur ana. Well be back in a moment with a look at super tuesday and more. Grow with google is here to help you with turning ideas into action. Putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. So, in case youre looking, weve put all the ways we can help in one place. Free training, tools, and Small Business resources are now available at google. Com grow to give his money to charity, giving pledge when this californian walked away from his billion Dollar Company for good. He drives a chevy volt, flies commercial, and spends his days building grassroots campaigns for social and environmental justice. Why . Tom steyer believes every child deserves the same opportunities as his. A healthy planet. Good schools. Quality healthcare, living wage jobs, and life without fear of discrimination. Tom im tom steyer and i approve this message. Brennan were back with our panel we brought in two of the big guns from the the New York Times today. Edward wong is a diplomatic correspondent, and Michael Crowley is a White House Correspondent covering Foreign Policy. Good to have you both here. Thanks, margaret. Brennan i want to start on what we havent mentioned thus far in the show, that the president has made a choice to run the intelligence community. Hes going to renominate a congressman, john ratcliffe. Is he actually going to go through and get nominated and confirmed . Well, thats a big question. , you know, President Trump was getting close to nom nath congressman ratcliffe back in the summer. And he met so much resistance from Senior Republicans in congress who said this man is not qualified. Hes only been on the Intelligence Committee for a year, may have inflated his resume, and is a much mo have held that job. The president pulled back and didnt do it. Theres not a lot of evidence to that, but there may be a little bit of a game going on here because the president has install the richard grenle, his ambassador to germany, in that job, on an acting basis and because of complicated things that have to do with how long acting directors can serve. By nom nath a new person, even if President Trump doesnt think ratcliffe can get confirmed, that allows rick grenle to stay in that job for a longer amount of time. Theres another theory that rick grenle is even more unpalatable than ratcliffe so ratcliffe may be the more acceptable alternative. There is a lot going on and people are trying to figure out whats real and what isnt. Brennan it brings up what we have been talking about today in terms of confidence in professionals versus political choices made for political reasons, and confidence in hard fact and in intelligence. Ed, i know youve been following, as you always do, you lived in china for so long, and you followed the origins of this outbreak of corona, when you heard the administration this week change its language so many times in describing and characterizing response, what. Did you make of that . And what do you make of what is actually known in terms of what china is sharing with the u. S. . I think that everyone agreed that full transparency or a large amount of transparency on this virus is necessary, both to, you know, push forward with expertise on addressing the virus, plus calming public fears over it. I think when an administration or government appears to be nontransparent on it, then that creates problems. And i think that the Trump Administration really grappled with that this past week when you saw President Trump come out and say it was a new hoax by the democrats or when brennan and his chief of staff went out and said the medias covering this because they think its going to take down the president. Right. And i think that theyre trying to adjust the language now, from what i can tell. But i think that, you know, theres valid criticism of that. And i think if you compare that to the way beijing reacted, there are some parallels in that communist party officials, chinese officials really covered up the start of the virus, and theres a lot of information coming out these days that perhaps it other staked earlier, and that they kept the public from learning about it. Whistleblowers, dr. Lee, tried to warn Health Care Professionals in a private chat group about it. And he was taken in by the police because of that and admonished. Brennan michael, i mean, does the president now have the credibility and the trust of the public in a moment of crisis when you need it most . No, thats a huge problem here, margaret. Think back to what happened when hurricane dorrian was hitting the United States last summer. President trump made an inaccurate comment about the hurricanes path and was criticized for it. And a day or two later hes holding up a math showing the storms forecasted path in the oval office and it appears to be doctored by a sharpie pen that President Trump uses to sign documents. It looked like they were altering information given to the public to cover up a mistake the president made. The president has bungled basic thatriyesterday was a of v tnk step in the right direction. Having all those Health Experts there, particularlywe questionst whether he was being muzzled. He said he was not. One of the nations foremost authorities on these things. And i think President Trump understands he wants the markets to bounce back. The markets want to see that kind of expertise in trump expertise and credibility. And at least yesterday, there was a step in that direction. Brennan well, we will see when the markets open tomorrow what they thought of it. But, certainly, for the public, well continue to follow the details of this as we have on face the nation. Thank you all today for watching and each week as you do. Well see you tuesday night for cbs news special coverage of the super tuesday results. We go on the air here on cbs at 8 00 p. M. Eastern, 5 00 pacific, and our cbsn coverage starts at 5 00 p. M. As well. For face the nation,m maaret brennan. Captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org vo in life, there are talkers and there are doers. Mike bloomberg has spent his life getting things done. Startea companfrom scratch creating 20,000 good paying jobs. Thats getting it done. As mayor, he rebuilt a shaken city after 9 11, created over 450,000 jobs. Expanded healtare to 700,000 and raised teacher pay. Elected for three terms because he got things done. Mike beat the nra, strengthening gun laws. He beat big coal, closing over 300 dirty coal fired plants. Mike is still getting things done. So ask yourself. For president , do you want a debater or a doer . 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