Joker. Thats not what we found at all. One person we talked to who who knows you, says that youre a wonderful actor and a terrible movie star. Is that who is this person . I im but im not going to say. laughter ticking you are not laid back when you play tennis. translated no. I think im a very intense person with a lot of energy. I live life and sports at maximum intensity. Tonight we will try to explain how rafa nadal, the most intense tennis player of his generation, can come from a place like this the sleepy, sunny island of mallorca. The worlds number one player told us hell never leave. Have you jumped off that . Yeah. Yeah . A couple of times. Oh, man. ticking im lesley stahl. Im bill whitaker. Im anderson cooper. Im jon wertheim. Im norah odonnell. Im john dickerson. Im scott pelley. Those stories, tonight, on 60 minutes. ticking i have moderate to severe pnow, theres skyrizi. Things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free to bare my skin yeah thats all me. 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The periodic floods of venice have become more threatening and more frequent. This past november, a sudden storm surge overwhelmed nearly 90 of the city. Climate Scientists Say what happened that night exactly two months ago in venice is a warning to the world of whats to come, and not just in venice. Ever since the 5th century, venice has depended on the water for survival. This improbable italian city, knit together between islands, used water as a barrier against invaders, to become a jewel of the world. Then came the night of november 12. Streets ran like rivers. Squares became swimming pools. It was venices secondhighest tide ever recorded, more than six feet above sea level. Wind from a storm barreling up the adriatea accelerated omil less than 15 minutes. When the surge was over, the destruction totaled a billion dollars. Toto Bergamo Rossi its enough. I said to myself the other night, with the water until almost my underpants downstairs. I mean, this is ridiculous. This, we cant be like this. The power of the water was so strong. Dickerson toto Bergamo Rossi is known as venices unofficial mayor. A descendant of an ancient venetian family, he is a director of the venice heritage foundation. Rossi i feel like im the doctor of this kind of old patient, and i have to do it. I have to check, i have to help dickerson if venice is a patient, i tim la rossi i how you call that kind of department that they put you the mask and you are in laughs dickerson oh yeah, the intensive care unit. Rossi intensive care, exactly. laughs now we are in intensive care. Completely. sirens dickerson but it wasnt just one flood. For days in november, venetians woke to the sound of tones warning of more recordbreaking tides. Venice has always been vulnerable. The city is also slowly sinking, but the water is rising higher and more frequently. Three of the eight highest tides in venices recorded history occurred just in november. This is becoming the new normal, and waterlogged venetians wonder how much more this ancient city can take. Luigi brugnaro translated the frequency, its like an earthquake. When there are too many, then it means something is happening. I see it as an opportunity to wake up the world. Dickerson luigi brugnaro, a conservative and former businessman, is venices elected mayor. Are you convinced that the recent water rise, the frequency of the water rise is the results of manmade Climate Change . Brugnaro translated yes, of course. Yes, these are the effects of Climate Change. Dickerson thestr ening ny of venices masterpieces, like the 900yearold basilica of st. Mark, known as the church of gold. Its marble floors were swamped on november 12, and downstairs, water buried the crypt for only the second time ever. The water receded, but left behind salt, which italians call the cancer, because it eats away at mosaics and foundations. Pierpaolo campostrini, who helps manage the basilica, pled for his church and his city. Pierpaolo campostrini im emotional. Im also a bit angry about this. Dickerson who are you angry at . Campostrini its the fault of my generation. So i dont want to leave to my children this responsibility. My generation should act. Dickerson this past november, venice nearly lost another of its gems. Fortunato ortombina this is the most beautiful theater all around the world. Dickerson at la fenice, where verdi debuted his operas la traviata and rigoletto, novembers flood hit days before the season opener. Once the danger was over, fortunato ortombina, la fenices artistic director, relived the drama of the panic backstage. Ortombina can you imagine this tube with a water, pshuuu. Coming out like a fountain. It was completely under the water. Dickerson and its never supposed to have any water. Ortombina no, no, no, no. If the water arrives, on the cable, on the line, where you have electricity, it explode. It explode. Dickerson miraculously, it didnt. And with vacuums running around the clock, the water went down, so the curtain could go up. The opening scene from verdis don carlo . A prayer for the dead. Nice is facing an existential threat essentially to the city as it has been. Dickerson you say venice is dying. Those are the stakes for you . Oppenheimer those are the stakes. Dickerson Michael Oppenheimer is a professor of geosciences at princeton university. He was a lead author of a landmark report for the United Nations on Climate Change that found coastal cities are increasingly at risk from sea level rise. When people look at venice and what is happening in venice, more floods, faster and higher, what message should they take for the rest of the world . Oppenheimer the rest of the world should take the message that this is what the situations going to look like in many places that they live in. Venice is just, you know, as everybody says, the canary in the coal mine. Its happening there now. Dickerson Climate Change, oppenheimer says, is the major reason well see more floods for the ages across the globe, like the one that hit venice two months ago. Oppenheimer sea level is rising almost everywhere on earth. Not only is sea level rising, the rise is accelerating. Its happening faster and faster. Dickerson how much faster has that pace quickened . Oppenheimer so by the year 2050, which is only 30 years into the future, many places around the world, including in the u. S. , are going to experience their historical oncein100year flood level once a year, or more frequently. Let me repeat that. An event that used to cause severe flooding once a century, were going to get that same water level once a year. Dickerson and what cities are we talking about . Oppenheimer places like los angeles, san diego, key west, miami, jacksonville, savannah, honolulu. Dickerson but at least there is a plan to defend venice. We headed out to one of the three inlets where the tides from the adriatic sea flow into the lagoon that surrounds the city. Attrroject more than 30 years in the making, moses is supposed to deploy 78 retractable gates to block exceptional high tides, as this animation illustrates. Construction finally began in 2003, but corruption scandals and engineering challenges have delayed moses years past its due date. After all the tests are done, when are you saying that moses will be ready . Alessandro soru its now planned for the end of 2021. Dickerson in a tunnel 60 feet below sea level, we met alessandro soru, the projects lead engineer. So how many days a year was it planned that moses would be used . Soru say an average of ten days a year. Dickerson but the fear is, if the adriatic continues to rise past projections, the mosyr nearly eveay ofhis century. T the worst flood in venices history happened in 1966. It wasr than this past novembers. Back in 66, experts said the flood was a oncein800 year event. Nonetheless, thousands of venetians left for good. Shaul bassi it really was the major historic turning point in the recent history of the city, and we thought that Something Like that would not happen again. Dickerson shaul bassi is a product of that flood. A professor of English Literature at venices cafoscari university, his parents met when his mother went to venice to help the flood victims. They stayed, but how many will now that the seasonal high tides known as acqua altas are getting worse . Explain how it was different this time from previous acqua altas. Bassi so i think that people now feels far more vulnerable. Were hearing the sirens now. sirens in background acqua altas coming back. You see . This is what happened. Its happening every day now. This never happened like that. You know, it happens one, two, three days. Now its like, over a week that every day we have that. This is new. Dickerson when you hear the sirens, does that take you back . Bassi so i, you know, now it really makes me feel very nervous. Dickerson during our eight days in venice, we found the city on edge because the water keeps defeating the accommodations residents have already made to it. Bassi the real, real threat, as far as im concerned, is that it may actually push even more people away and will leave the city as a kind of ghost town, as a beautiful, empty museum. Dickerson the ground floors in this stooped and shrinking city have already been abandoned. Life is lived on the first story and above. Artisans like saverio pastor, one of the last who patiently crafts oar locks for the citys gondolas, are becoming scarce. While residents weigh moving out, the tourists keep marching in, donning neon booties and learning to walk on water or in single file on the hastily assembled footbridges that lace through what may be a doomed city. To give venice a future, its mayor wants to turn the city into a World Laboratory to combat Climate Change. Brugnaro translated why dont we do it here . Lets do it here, lets study it here. Lets study the water, lets study the pollution, the rising waters, the temperature. It could be an example of great mobilization at a world level. Dickerson is the message to the rest of the world, if you dont save venice, it will happen to you next . Brugnaro translated i dont want to worry anybody, but i think that id like a different message. Lets save venice to save the world. bells ringing ch, whh was t to commemorate the end of the 17th century plague that killed 50,000 citizens. This years ceremony, in the wake of the flood, had a special resonance. Bassi the festival is a festival about survival. Dickerson was it more well attended this year than it would have been in the past . Bassi absolutely. I think that it was more heartfelt. I think a lot of people this time felt, you know, this might not be there forever. I think this is what has perhaps changed, that a lot of us are feeling, well, we cannot take this for granted. Dickerson what would be lost is a city where so much of the art interprets the Natural Beauty of light that arrives twice a day, once from the sun, and once as it is reflected back off the water. But venice is no longer just something beautiful to look at. Its fragility is a warning to the rest of the planet that this ancient city is under pressures from forces it cannot control. Venice is not alone. In a world of warming temperatures and sea level rise. Tiing cbs money watch sponsored by lincoln financial, helping you create a secure financial future. Good evening. 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I would want to tell this little girl to keep pushing herself, your dream cooper if all you know about Joaquin Phoenix is the parts hes played, you might think hed be aloof, maybe even disturbed. During his nearly four decades as an actor, dark, complicated characters have become something of a trademark. His most recent role is the mentally ill clown arthur fleck, who becomes a deranged killer in joker. Its a daring, and complex performance thats earned phoenix critical acclaim, controversy, and talk of a fourth oscar nomination at just 45 yearsold. Phoenix has a reputation for being difficult in interviews, and we werent sure what to expect when we met him in los angeles. What we found was a shy, wry, welcoming actor who wasnt entirely sure he wanted to talk with us at all. Do you like being interviewed . Because it doesnt seem like, from other interviews ive read, that you like it. Joaquin phoenix its all right. But its not something if i had, like, the choice of, like, four different activities, i dont think laughs itd be one cooper this this would not joaquin that i would choose. Cooper be one of them . Joaquin no. Ummm. Cooper one person we talked to who who knows you, says that youre a wonderful actor and a terrible movie star. Is that joaquin who is this person . I cooper im but im not going to say. Joaquin oh, please. Youd be interested laughs what does that mean . Cooper it means that youre not interested in the trappings of being a movie star. You dont have an assistant. You youre not on social media. Joaquin well, hold on. Bu cooper and and youre not in a living in a mega mansion somewhere and driving, you know, lamborghinis around. Joaquin um, the lamborghinis in the shop. Cooper unlike many actors, phoenix isnt surrounded by an entourage. Joaquin i love you. Cooper just his two curious dogs, soda and oscar. He leads a relatively quiet life in the hollywood hills, unexceptional except for the fact hes widely considered one of the most talented actors of his generation. Hes played jesus. Joaquin hello, im johnny cash. Cooper and johnny cash. Joaquin lay off that whiskey and let that takesn emperor toule an empire. Cooper a cunning emperor in gladiator and a struggling loner in the master. Phillip Seymour Hoffman tell me why youre not with her if you love her so much. Joaquin i told her i id come back and i never went back, and now i just, i got to get back to her. Hoffman why dont you go back . Joaquin i dont know. Hoffman why dont you go back . Joaquin i dont know hoffman close your eyes. Cooper Joaquin Phoenix has appeared in more than 30 films. gunshots joaquin did i hit you . Cooper and has already received three oscar nominations. Yeah, were going to jackson and never comin back cooper they say success breeds confidence. Joaquin whats happening out there . Cooper but phoenix is still plagued by self doubt. Do you get nervous . Joaquin yeah, yeah, absolutely. Cooper on a set . Joaquin yes, petrified. Cooper what are you petrified about . I mean, youre youve been doing this for 30 years. Joaquin yeah. There are so many things that i want to express, like, when i take on a role. And i go through the script, i just, like, full of ideas. And so i guess im just nervouse to to find the right kind of space to express that. Cooper hes been known to get testy when asked about his acting process. We tried anyway. Joaquin its difficult to talk about because i dont really understand it, right . Im just trying to articulate something for you, but i dont cooper isnt it the fact that you didnt quite understand it that makes it so compelling . Joaquin yes. And its what makes doing interviews so frustrating, right . Um. Because it is theres a certain mystery that i love and i appreciate and im comfortable with. You think youre perfect . huh . noo cooper his characters. However, are often uncomfortable to watch. Especially his most recent role as arthur fleck in joker. Phoenix transforms fro c inta murderer joaquin there were times where i really felt for him. And there were times where i was disappointed and repulsed by his behavior, right . And i, i, i liked that. Cooper phoenix spent months talking through the script with his director, Todd Phillips. But the one thing hes loathe to do is rehearse with other actors. Joaquin it just it feels impossible to me. Cooper what do you mean impossible . Joaquin i dont know, its it just feels so fake. Cooper mmm. Joaquin i mean, the great thing about shooting a movie is shooting multiple takes, and you use editing and so you grab those best moments. So id rather discover those moments while were working um, than in the rehearsal process, and then feel like, oh, that was really good what we did. How do we recreate that . Cooper those moments he discovers while filming are often unscripted and unexpected. Like this pivotal scene in joker just after he commits his first murder. The script simply called for phoenix to hide his gun in a bathroom. Joaquin it felt like the character had moved way past that. And that there there was the the opportunity to express something else. But i didnt know precisely what that what that was. Cooper director Todd Phillips played him some cello music that had been composed for the film, and that sparked an idea. Joaquin and i thought there was some kind of, some kind of movement, that it was like some physical transformation, right, metamorphosis. Cooper as the cameras rolled, he found himself marking that metamorphosis into a killer with this haunting and macabre ballet. There is an intensity to all the characters youve been playing. Ntimesple elyeah, which i love. Like i identify and im expressing something of my own experience through the character. I think its because oftentimes the characters, um, have these lives and experiences that are so foreign to me, um that it it breaks my heart. Cooper that may be one of the most surprising things about Joaquin Phoenix. He is not his characters. Hes incredibly close to his family, and seems most relaxed when hes with them. What was joaquin like as a child . laughter joaquin be very be very careful. Be very careful with this mom rain phoenix i think we all should answer this one at a time. Joaquin yeah. laughs from my perspective, i was a terror. Cooper laughs you were a terror . Joaquin yeah, but i was hoping you guys were gonna go, like, thats not true. Heart phoenix that is so not true joaquin i know. Thanks guys, i know. Cooper he has Three Sisters rain, liberty, and summer. Thats his stepdad jeffrey and his mom, heart. If those names didnt tip you off, the phoenixes were a band of hippies. They had little money, but deep convictions. Heart and their late father, john lee phoenix, homeschooled the kids and in the 1970s they moved around constantly. For two years, they lived in venezuela with a cult called the children of god. Joaquin yeah, they obviously dont advertise themselves as a cult or else nobody would join, right . So it seemed like it was this community. Cooper you really did not have much of anything. Is that fair to say heart we were ministers. We were just living on the road and we shared our truth and we would get donations. Cooper but by 1977, they say theyd grown disillusioned with the cult and moved back to the u. S. , eventually settling in los angeles with no money and no real plan. Ming oe streets. s seajouion the right. Next to him his older brother, river phoenix. Gonna make it gonna make it gon cooper river was the first to get into acting and became a star in the hit film stand by me. Joaquin was ten when he landed his big break on an episode of hill street blues. What do you remember about it . Joaquin i remember that um are you guys gonna play the scene on this thing . And then im gonna answer it and its gonna be cooper you know what . laughs television is a visual medium. So, i mean joaquin my memory is that i felt like my entire body was buzzing. There was a certain kind of power that, right . I was in a room full of adults, and i felt that um i had, like affected them. Like, i i had i had changed how they were feeling. Cooper well, you punched one of them. Joaquin well laughter it wasnt cooper im sure you changed how she was feeling. Joaquin it wasnt real. It wasnt real, anderson. Youre daddys very sick right now. Joaquin my daddys not sick, dont say that about him. Dont say that about him cooper as a teenager joaquin became surprisingly picky about the roles he took and didnt act much. His brother, river phoenix, had become a household name, and at 18 was nominated for an oscar. But in 1993, it all ended. River phoenix died of a Drug Overdose outside this hollywood club. Joaquin and rain phoenix were with him. He was just 23. The family has rarely spoken about his death publicly. Joaquin we were so removed from, kind of, the entertainment world. We didnt watch entertainment shows. We didnt have the entertainment magazines in our house. You know, w i mean, river was a really substantial actor and movie star, and we didnt really know it. And so during that time in which youre most vulnerable, there are helicopters flying over. There are people that are trying to sneak onto your land. Certainly, for me, it felt like it impeded on the mourning process, right . Heart the grieving process happens out of nowhere, you know . Ill be driving and all of a sudden, i will feel it. And ill just cooper even now . Heart welcome it. Oh yeah, i mean cooper theres no timeline for grief heart i mean, there is no timeline or no place where, you know, it just happens. And i and i welcome it. Cooper the family has found creative ways to honor rivers life. His sister rain, a musician, just released an album dedicated to river. And the family runs a Nonprofit Organization named after him that works on social justice issues and conflict resolution. Joaquin says hes felt his brothers presence throughout his career which has been wildly successful and often unconventional. A decade ago, joaquin made a fake documentary about his own life called im still here. It was meant as a critique of fame and as part of the film, he announced he was quitting acting to become a rapper. I never betrayed you i never did what you thought i did still you came at me swinging, kid cooper it was all an act, but hardly anyone knew. Phoenix kept up the facade in public for more than a year. You may remember this disastrous appearance with david letterman. David letterman youre not going to act anymore . Joaquin no. Letterman why is that . Joaquin hmm, i dont know. I mean. laughter letterman so you have given it some thought. Cooper there were rumors he was on drugs or having a breakdown. The film was a flop, but phoenix says it made him a better actor, less afraid to make mistakes. Joaquin i think what i didnt know is how much it would impact and influence my career as an actor. Cooper what is the impact . Joaquin theres something liberating about public humiliation. Cooper so, to go through that sort of crucible is freeing in a way . Joaquin yeah, i mean, look cant get much worse, right . Cooper far from it. Joker has brought in more than a billion dollars so far, and is the highest grossi fueled in part by controversy. Some people thought the film glorified a killer. Others saw it as a case study of mental illness, and societys failures to address it. Joaquin ive described it as, like, a rorschach test. It says something about the person viewing it and what they think that its about. Thats really rare for a film to kind of have that effect on people. So, in some ways, i welcomed it. Cooper phoenix is already working on another film. When we last saw him, it was one of his few moments of downtime, and he was more than ready to see us leave. So, when youre not working what do you what do you do . I mean, do you like having time off . Joaquin i do. Yeah, i love it. I feel very comfortable with time off. What do i do . I, um, i think i do normal things. I like to cook. I really dont want to talk about what i do. Cooper okay, fine, fine. Joaquin you know what i mean, because i just feel like i go like, i like to cook, i like to go see movies with my girlfriend, and i just go like. But i mean i i, you know, i think i have very, um basic, like, needs. Cooper yeah, never mind, i dont care. Joaquin even better. laughter ticking to hear more about how his family is keeping river phoenixs memory alive, go to 60minutesovertime. Com. Sponsored by pfizer. 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Such is his intensity, nadal requires two sparring partners. His main coach carlos moya, was once the worlds number one ranked player himself, and even he struggled. Rafa nadal es facil. Wertheim that was easy, nadal joked. Hola good to see you. Nadal good to see you. Wertheim full disclosure ive covered nadal for 15 years on the pro tennis tour, but this was our first extended oncamera interview. Hes fluent in english, but expresses himself more freely in spanish. You are not laid back when you play tennis. Nadal translated no. I think im a very intense person with a lot of energy. I live life and sports at maximum intensity. This is how i feel it. Wertheim in 2019, the world felt it, perhaps the best six month eny dizzyingly high in june, he won the french open of course he did. It was his 12th title on the red clay of paris, more than any player in history has won any major. In september in new york, he reeled off the shot of the year. Watch this. If i didnt see it with my own eyes cheers and applause wertheim not over the net, but around it and yes, this is legal. On his way to winning the u. S. Open for a fourth time. By the time he carried spain to a davis cup title, he was all ready number one in the world, his fifth turn closing out the season on top. As one observer put it, even at this stage of his career, nadal plays like hes broke. So, what hardcharging corner of spain, what hive of cutthroatods rgs balearicmpehe islands. A patchwork of turquoise coves, mountain ranges, rolling meadows, mallorca floats comfortably in the mediterranean. Think of it as something akin to a tennis ball spain volleyed in the direction of italy. The usual historical suspects carthaginians, romans and moors all left their mark here. How many generations of nadals have been on this island . Nadal translated many. Quite a few. Wertheim what is it like to you coming back to mallorca after spending time on the road . Nadal translated for me, coming back to mallorca means coming back to a normal life. And normal life makes me happy. Im not just rafa nadal, the tennis player. I become rafa nadal the human being again. Wertheim nadal is so attached to the place, that when floods ravaged mallorca in 2018r volunteer. The island raised him. So, too, did his parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts. Three generations of nadals living together quite literally on top of each other in this apartment block in the small town of manacor. His uncle, miguel aangel, played professional soccer and gave rafa his first glimpse of life under stadium lights. Nadal translated he always managed to have a peaceful, normal life close to his family. And for me, that was a very good example. Wertheim but it was another uncle toni nadal, then a local tennis instructor who recognized rafas talent. Toni nadal translated normally, when you throw the ball to most kids, they wait for the ball to come to them. But when he was three years old, he went straight for it. Wertheim there were no perks to being the instructors nephew quite the opposite. Tepr. How hard were you on him . Toni i was hard. Wertheim you were . Toni i wanted to prepare my nephew for the future. And i thought the future will be very difficult. Wertheim you say you were tough. Were you too tough . Toni sometimes. Wertheim still, it was out of the question that rafa would leave home and his uncles to this day, the nadal family operates as a tightly knit clan. They attend rafas big matches together; they toast his successes together. And they had cause to celebrate right from the start. Nadal was an instant phenom. In 2005, the week he turned 19, he won his first french open. His stubborn refusal to surrender and the spin he can generate with a flick of the wrist have always made him near unbeatable on clay courts. And yet, the signature moment of nadals entire career came on grass wimbledon. In 2007, nadal was close to dethroning the sports reigning king, Roger Federer, to win the tournament for the first time. But then, in keeping with an unfortunate theme of nadals career, his body betrayed him. A knee injury this time. Do you remember how low you were after that 2007 wimbledon final . Nadal translated i was sad and i was angry with myself. Because i wasnt able to endure mentally the pain, the suffering, and the tension. Wertheim nadal got another shot the following year, in whats been called the greatest match ever played. He pulled ahead early, but federer stormed back. During a rain delay, rafa conferred with his uncle. Toni translated im telling you, at that point, i thought that rafael was more likely to lose than to win. And then he looked up at me and said, relax, im not going to maybe federer will win, but im not going to lose. Theres a new man at the helm of mens tennis Rafael Nadal Nadal translated winning wimbledon was a dream. And beating roger, and the way i won. Its something i will never forget. Wertheim nadal didnt just overcome federer, he confronted another persistent nemesis the doubt in his head. You once said to me, if i dont feel doubt, im going to be in trouble. Doubt is very important to my success. What do you mean by that . Nadal translated if you dont have doubt, it probably means that youre being arrogant. Wertheim most athletes might think the exact opposite, that doubts are bad. Youre saying doubts are almost a power, a strength. Nadal translated i think so, yes. I think its good for me, because then i feel alert. Because tennis is a sport where things can change very quickly. Thats the great beauty of our sport. Wertheim a great beauty of nadal, for all his focus and aggression, hes also unfailingly sporting, which sometimes distinguishes him from colleagues. You havent broken too many rackets in competition have you . laughs how many . Do you know the total . Nadal translated yes, si. Wertheim what is it . Nadal translated zero. Wertheim zero. Never broken a racket . Nadal translated uhuh. Wertheim what is that about . Nadal translated my family, they wouldnt have allowed me to break a racket. For me, breaking a racket means im not in control of my emotions. Wertheim in full control of his emotions, at least until the last point. Hes amassed 19 majors, only one behind Roger Federers record of 20. But in this unrivaled sports tohead matchups 2416. You ever done a long interview and not been asked about Roger Federer . Does it bother you . Nadal translated no, id be delighted. Wertheim a rival, a colleague, a friend what is your relationship . Nadal translated i think its a little bit of everything. Weve had a very intense rivalry throughout our careers, but its been a very healthy rivalry. An elegant, respectful rivalry. We have also reached a stage in our lives where we are able to appreciate that its not just about winning. Wertheim nadal did your rivals . Nadal translated yes. laughs sometimes i do. Its true that my rivals have faced fewer injuries than i have had to face. Wertheim one of the theories with your injuries is that you practice and play with so much intensity that it takes a physical price. Is that something you agree with . Nadal translated no, or i dont know. I was told that for many years, i was told that because of the way i play, i would never have a very long career. But, hey, im still here. Wertheim for this, the final set of nadals career, uncle toni has stepped aside and rafa has a new voice in his ear. Carlos moya is, naturally, a fellow mallorcan. What percent of his intensity did you have when you were a player . Carlos moya 10 . laughs wertheim 10 as intense as rafa nadal . Moya yeah. Wertheim and yet you come from the same place . Moya yeah, hes the different one, not me. Here in mallorca, we are like this. Wertheim hes the exception . Moya yeah, hes the exception, yeah. Wertheim nadal turned his sleepy hometown of manacor into a worldwide tennis destination. The Rafa Nadal Academy is a sprawling complex for enthusiasts and aspiring pros. When we asked nadal if he ever considered moving his operation, as if to emphasize the point, he switched to english to answer. Nadal honestly not. A lot of people does. Because of taxes. Wertheim not for you . Nadal for me it was difficult to take that decision because i have all of the people that i love here. And i will win much more money if i move to another place, but moving to another place if i am not happy could be very, very expensive. Wertheim last october, nadal married his longtime girlfriend, Maria Francisca perelloo. Yup, shes mallorcan, too. She helps run nadals Charitable Foundation and tends to avoid the public eye, though we found them together one night hosting a group of donors. How did you ask her to marry you . Nadal after 15 years, you dont need to talk much. Just, what do we have to do . laughs Maria Francisca yes, or not . Nadal well, here we are. Wertheim nadal took us to a plot of land he bought recently where he and his wife will eventually break ground on a new family home. He told us hed planned to have kids by now; then again he also thought hed be off the tour by now. Nadal this is the port of manacor. My parents living there. Wertheim oh, your parents live across the bay . Nadal yeah, other side. Yeah, its good, because i have the boat very close, too, very close. So that helps, because wertheim oh, you keep a boat here . Nadal yeah, yeah. So, in three minutes, i am in erthei threeutes youre in e boat, and youre t out in the mediteran nadal exactly. Wertheim only one problem with this spot. Nadal the problem here is the kids during the summer, they go there they jump. Because there is nobody in the house, they come up and they come back. They come from inside the property. Wertheim this is a hangout for mallorca because rafa is away playing tennis, so why dont we go out to his property and jump off his cliff. Nadal yeah, thats true. Wertheim have you jumped off that . Nadal yeah. Wertheim yeah . Nadal a couple of times. Wertheim maybe it was the effects of being back home. Maybe its because he is back on top. But we found rafael nadal ready to take the measure of his entire, surpassing career. Youve had some incredible victories and youve had some gutting losses. What is more intense . The joy of winning or the pain of losing . On the moment. Unfortunately, in life more often we remember the negative things because they have a greater impact on us. In tennis, its a little different, no . I think over my career that i have been happier with my victories than i have been upset with mdefeats. I think. ticking bsrt iesd progressive insurance im james brown from the n. F. L. Today. In the a. F. C. 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