Taliban wants to make a deal, and we are meeting with them and we are saying it has to be a ceasefire. They dont want, they didnt want to do a ceasefire but now they do. Dickerson it was announcement that confused many, including the Afghan Government and the taliban who nevertheless suggested they were willing to start talks again. It is like he is kind of for the sake of the country i hope he accidentally gets it right. Dickerson here at face the nation we will honor our own trainings giving tradition i cant we will talk with several of our favorite authors and historians about the presidency, politics and patriotism. Plus as some 2020 democrats spend their holidays looking for votes in iowa i am here today because of love. Dickerson new jersey senator cory booker is one candidate searching for something more meaningful. The truth of america is that we win when we come together and show the best of who we are. Dickerson but is that vision possible . As the country and washington prepare to get back to business. We will talk with senator booker and we will have political analysis on all the news of the week just ahead on face the nation. Nation. Dickerson good morning and welcome to face the nation. Margaret is off today. The House Intelligence Committee announced last night that their impeachment inquiry report will be ready tomorrow. Then tuesday the full committee will vote on whether or not to proceed to the next step, which is asking the Judiciary Committee to look at writing articles of impeachment against president trump. We will discuss those developments but we are also going to try to step back a little today to reflect on president s and partisanship and the pace of an age where one development follows quickly on the heels of another. We will begin, though, with campaign 2020, in jersey center, cory booker is one of the democrats trying to win his partys nomination and welcome, senator. John, it is great to be here. Dickerson thanks for coming off the campaign trail for a nanosecond to join us. You have a new ad out and i want to talk about the ad and where we are in american politics today. Your ad comes at a time when your campaign is struggling to stay alive, you are trying to get on the next debate stage, your next in the, message in the add you talk about love and unity, you talk about that throughout. Is that message not selling . It is in a sense that right now we see from local leaders in iowa and New Hampshire there is no candidate that has more 0 endorsements i do from folks on the ground trying to make things happen for american people. We see my favorite ability nub three is iowa, it is not translating to people choosing me in the polls, thats why we are pushing more ads and hoping more go to our website and give contributions but i didnt get into this election for any other portant thing we needed in this country is to try to affirm that lines that divide us are not as the ties that bind us, i am running for president because ick t putting indivisible into see his wasngton. We are so the partisanship is becoming tribalism and hating each other because we vote differently and we are not going to be able to get the big things done we need to get done like facing down climate change, the healthcare crisis that still persists, you need new american majorities do do that and a leader that will inspire that imagination. Dickerson president obama had a version of that when he ran for presidency and by the time he left he basically felt and the republicans have their view about him but he felt about the republicans they were not willing partners. If he couldnt do it, things have gotten worse since, why is president cory booker going to be able to do it . I am glad you mentioned he won with that mental. We need a leader who best inspires that obama coalition, but number 2 is when i took over a city known for crime and understandings i think most of the mayors before me were indicted and convicted people told me at all things we could not do, and my frustration was, hearing all of these things that people said couldnt be done, it undermined, sort of like was with a surrender to six similar i think we have to resist, cynicism, i am going to come to washington and do things differently, i am going to break norms of degrade and divide. Dickerson what norm are you going to break to make this city al all of a sudden break on and group hug . Thats not what i am looking for, i think our debates are important. There are going to have to be tough discussions, but this is what frustrates me. The majority of americans agree on common sense gun safety reform, the majority of americans agree on the need for massive infrastructure investment. The majority of americans agree that we need to raise the minimum wage. This is the frustrating thing is we have this wide berth in which we agree, the it is politics is not reflected the people and thats what i am going change as next president of the United States. Dickerson is your campaign facing a do or die moment as far as getting on the campaign stage. It is getting to one of these moments and the people responded to this before if you want me in this race if you want my voice and message which is resonating then i need help, we immediate people to go to corey booker. Com and contribute to do what i see a lot of the billionaires in the race doing which is just running nonstop ads to boost their poll numbers. I am not taking corporate pac money and a lot i am running on individual contributions and thats what we are going to need to keep going. Dickerson president obama a couple of weeks ago said the country is not really ready for a revolution and that what he hears coming out of the democratic race is maybe a little bit too much change. Where do you come down on that if a democrat is elected it is going to be after four years of president trump, with a there has been a lot of excitement. Will the country be ready for a lot of democratic version of excitement . Look, we need an inspiring, igniting leader next, one that can get folks energized because i am here because of revolutions, the Civil Rights Movement was a revolution. What happened at seneca falls was a revolution, these are revolutions that are consistent and resonant with our founding ideals. But the declaration of independence, they knew this was a nation that was an experiment. If you read that document, at the end, they actually have a declaration of interdependence, if america is going to make it we need to pledge our sacred on the hora, thats what we need the next revolution to be about, is about in understanding that our enemies they literally have read the intelligence reports, the russians the more we are divided against ourselves, they are using strategies, social media platforms to make us hate each other more, this next revolution has to be one where we understand we have a common cause, if your kids dont have a Great Public School my kids are worse off. Dickerson one thing you mentioned in the debate, you said this . The debates, we lost in wisconsin because of a massive diminution in the africanamerican vote, we need have someone who can inspire African Americans to the polls in record numbers. Polls show right now 0 that joe biden gets 49 percent among African Americans, that is 30 our points better than his closest rival. He seems to be doing exactly what you are saying, he is inspiring African Americans so who are you talking about . First of all he has got the loyalty in voting right now because he has 100 percent name rec in addition and former vice president. But you know this, that barack was behind Hillary Clinton amongst black voters until he won in iowa. This race most people have not made up their mind and as a guy who has shown statistically in new jersey when i am on the gal lot surges in africanamerican vote, i am confident i am the best person in this race not to just get the percent of the africanamerican vote but to increase the base, increase the turnout in a significant way. Thats the kind of leader we are going to need on the ticket in the next election. Dickerson senator cory booker thanks so much for become with us. Thank you very much. Dickerson and we will be back in one minute with our political panel. Dont go away. Problems. Nobody likes problems. But why is that . At ibm, problems actually inspire us, to fix things, to change things, to push the world forward. Which is why so many people who dare to take on problems work with ibm. Which is why so many people nicki hi, everyone. We just passed the one Year Anniversary of our 5g launch, so lets think about it. We were the first in the world to launch 5g mobile. We flipped the switch on 14 nfl stadiums and with 5g ultra wideband, we hit over 2 gigabits per second. And were gonna be in 30 cities by the end of this year. So thank you all. Dickerson and we are back after a quick change with your political panel. Amy walter is the National Editor for the coach political report, Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of the atlantic, ben domenech is the publisher of the federalist and Jamal Simmons is strategy gist that f ll tv and also a cbs news political contributor. Welcome to all of you. I dont know if you can hear the rain but we are going to pour down opinions right now. Benly start with you theut 11 whais t defense o is it wrong or is it that he did something wrong but it is not impeachable . I think that some republicans are taking from column a and most republicans are tabling there column b. The response you heard from will herd just a couple of weeks ago after the hearings were winding supervisor one i have heard from a lot of republicans that say they are uncomfortable with what the president did but they dont believe it rises to the level of impeachment. One of the things i think is actually aided in the republicans in this has become more of a process story as it has gone along one where athletic go into different radicals and directions as opposed to plowing ahead with the argument that the transcript itself is impeachable which was something we heard from democrats early on. Dickerson jamal what ben talks about the rabbit hole defense is what the clinton impeachment folks did, they try to evein but tnd th is the main thing, what is the main thing . The main thing is the president of the United States tends to use National Policy in whatever he does for his own personal benefit not for the impose the country, and if you look at this not just in the clinton example, unless you remember be bill clinton took responsibility for what he did in august of 1998 which gave democrats the permission to have led him before the election which donald trump is not going to do. Dickerson right. Lets take it out of that context and more of the Hillary Clinton benghazi investigation. Whether the, where the republicans branded Hillary Clinton in the benghazi investigation, where she was never really fully able to get out from underneath that shadow they cast over her in the process. Dickerson clinton is saying wrong but not impeachable, donald trump has said, i have done nothing wrong. Dont do that. He can and you were down in south carolina, and there were some ads running, antiimpeachment ads running. Yes. Dickerson tell me against Joe Cunningham . She a brandnew congressman from this district that trump won easily. Dickerson he is a democrat. Sea democrat. If you are a republican right now, your hope is it is putting people like Joe Cunningham who came in in this big wave in 2018 pledging to be something different, pledging to be bipartisan, a lot of what 0 senator cory booker was talking about, we are going to focus on the issues and break sort of this he said, she said in washington and a find solutions. Now, the knock on folks like Joe Cunningham and others the fresh plan is, you said you were coming here to fix things and now you just turned into a partisan democrat just like nancy pelosi or who else else in leadership and hoping that is going to work out in the election in 2020. My guess is, by the time we are even in the spring or summer of 2020, we are not going to be talking about impeachment at all. This is the most remarkable thing about this impeachment process is, this will be the third time in history a president of the United States will be impeached and i will bet you it is not an issue at all in the 2020 election. Dickerson so jeffrey, what amy is saying, then, basically is this is just another thing after the last thing and it will be super t other m works in the president s benefit this is just another thing. It is not only to his benefit, if he comes out a winner, he comes out a winner. I mean, he says i defeated this amendment to remove me that your tribune to the 60 million plus people who voted for him, it was a concerted attempt to remove me and i was not removed so therefore i am stronger now than i was before. And by the way going back to something you were talking about, you know, the argument, the best republican argument right now probably is this motion that all foreign policy, all National Security policy, all aid making is quid pro quo, right . But of course we want somethinge behalf of national interests, not personal interests, but he can muddy that very, very nicely if he tries hard. Lets not get past this. Impeachment stains are really hard to washout. You know, we have had three impeachment processes that occur and neither al gore, gerald ford nor horatio see mower the nominee in 1968 were able to take the white house after their party the president of their party went through the impeachment process, it is very hard a and with the bill clinton impeachment, while the democrats were able to hold on to or win the congress back, keep in mind, not just al gore, clarence ran for president twice and couldnt get the white house, it is very hard and havent seen an incurrently bent president rub for election before. At the same time i think it is impossible to say at this point that the president getting the approval of a bipartisan majority of the senate against removing him from office, one which would include potentially the votes of john manages and potentially other Democratic Senators as well, is not something. He is going to point to and say, look they just have been trying to get they all along, there is just a big hoax. Except opinions of this president dont thats what i am saying. How you feel about donald trump will tell you how you feel about this impeachment process. If you have disliked him all along you think this process has been aboveboard and it is exactly what democrats should be doing. If you like him, you think this process has been a witchhunt, and really very little that is going to come up between now and the election is going to change your opinion of that or of him. And so i dont know that it helps him necessarily to say, i won, because they are coming to get me. Opinions about him are he is as unpopular in many parts of America Today as he was before the impeachment process started. And he is as popular in places where he was before the impeachment process started. Dickerson jeffrey, the atlantic has a cover on the civil war and how to avoid one in this country. This seems to be for the moment, the civil war until we have the next fight over something else. Right. Dickerson what is your feeling about those larger clashing forces in america and how they play out through this . Impeachment is just a symptom of the Trump Presidency which is a symptom of larger cultural and political divides, even regional divides in some ways. Yes. The special issue of the atlantic we did is, we are not suggesting that it is 1860 right now or even 1850, we are just suggesting different demographic changes, the way we changes in the way we communicate with each other and a changes in a whole raft of area make it harder to think of america as a unified force, jim mattis, americas dont seem to have affection for each other the way we used to and just trying understand that. And again, trump for all of the obsession we have with talking about trump today, trump is a symptom of larger issues, and larger dislocations and large fer way in the talk to each other, and the understand a, what used to be a common reality. And there are down sides for the world of that type of divide within the american nation. As you look around the globe today, we see all sorts of Different Things happening. We see what is happening in hong kong, we see what is the happening in iran and see what is happening in the degradation of the state of mexico and see north korea, these are all areas where i think we should be focused on them. We are incredibly important and yet the focus inas wtohing and i think it is degraded the conversation that we ought to be having about these very important human rights issues n 1964 Robert Kennedy went to Convention Floor and gave a speech about america being strong abroad so we can handle our problems at home. Now we are in the reverse. Kamala harris said this, America Needs to goal the racial and Economic Issues at home and in order so we can be strong abroad, until we not just deal with donald trump but the economic dislocation of so many communities in this country, it seems like we are never going to be able to assert the American Leadership it took years to do both things at the same time. We have been able to project power, project our influence and also deal with 0 some of the issues that we have now. We are in a u ethatni we seem totally paralyzd and Everybody Knows we are paralyzed. Dickerson we will have to go out the door in at that moment but amyly give you the difficult task, dan wrote about the democratic race. The democratic president ial campaign produced confusion rather than clarity. Thats right. Dickerson in the 42nd wes have left clarify what the state of the democratic rate race ask for us. The state of the democratic race ask you have a National Front runner named joe biden who is losing in the first two contests, and in traditionally the winner of the first two contests iowa and New Hampshire have gone on to win the democratic nomination where joe biden succeeds is in the next two states, nevada and south carolina, which are populated with more voters of color, and so we are in a situation right now where you have four candidates right now who have the prospect at least of being calling themselves a front runner, but by the time we get through south carolina, we could have none of them as a front runner in that they all can claim a piece of it. Right. Which is when Mike Bloomberg thinks he will come in. Thats the end of it. Thanks to all of you and we will be right back in a moment. Stay with us. He couldve just been the middle class kid who made good. But Mike Bloomberg became the guy who did good. After building a business that created thousands of jobs he took charge of a city still reeling from 9 11 a threeterm mayor who helped bring it back from the ashes bringing jobs and thousands of Affordable Housing units with it. After witnessing the terrible toll of gun violence. He helped create a movement to protect families across america. And stood up to the coal lobby and this administration to protect this planet from climate change. And now, hes taking on. Him. To rebuild a country and restore faith in the dream that defines us. Where the wealthy will pay more in taxes and the middle class get their fair share. Everyone without Health Insurance can get it and everyone who likes theirs keep it. And where jobs wont just help you get by, but get ahead. And on all those things Mike Blomberg intends to make good. Jobs creator. Leader. Problem solver. Mike bloomberg for president. Im Mike Bloomberg and i approve this message. Johnsbut were also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. From the day youre born we never stop taking care of you. I realized i wanted to study the stars, i want to be a physicist. I had a tenth grade level of education. I find youtube videos on calculus, differential equations, statistics, algebra, trigonometry. Im now working as a scientist. I cant see a stopping point in me ever doing that. Dickerson for six years, billionaire Philanthropist David Rubenstein hosted dinners for lawmakers at the library of congress. Each featuring a modern historian, rubenstein has published a collection of the dialogues in the american story, conversations with master historians. We spoke with him last week and asked why knowing the past is so important to understanding the present. The theory of history is that we can learn from what we made mistakes about and what we did right before and then maybe we can do Better Things in the future. Civilization is all about improving things and if we dont improve in the past, how are we really advance civilization . Dickerson when members of Congress Come to these gathering, buy patterson do they ask questions with a specific it in their own lives . Nt to use it is like an era of good feelings when the dinners occur there is no bickering, members from the opposite party sit together, members of the opposite house sit together and you wouldnt ow how rancorous the atmosphere is in other parts of washington but a time they put a truce down and come together. Dickerson do you see anything or have the historians been able to give these members of congress any guidance on how they can break out of what they all agree is a time of hyperpartisan ship . I dont think the historians are trying to lecture members of congress on what they should. Do they are just saying, i wrote these books, let me tell you about these great figures and you take the lessons away from them that you will. Dickerson have you had a moment or time in your career where the lessons of history have really been applicable . Well, as a young man when my hair was dark and i was much thinner i worked in the white house under jimmy carter. I wish i had as much knowledge of history then as i do now. Dickerson he was a disrupter of the system. He had won the presidency when people didnt think he would. And they came to washington saying, we are not going to do things the old way. Would little lessons of history have been helpful to the carter team when they came in . Well, i think in hindsight we made some mistakes and i would this take the blame for it as well as other people who were involved in the system as well, but we did some very good things. We did say we are going to shake up washington with and jimmy carter came up with a very unique idea, he said i am not a lawyer, i am not from washington and that was unique at that time and he kind of you used that populist appeal. When he came to washington we probably didnt have as much breadth of knowledge of people who had served in washington before. But in hindsight, president carter was president for only four years and we did enormous number of things, and today the amount of legislation we passed in that fouryear period of time dwarfs what is getting done today. Dickerson one of the things you asked these historians when you talk them if you could talk to one former president and ask them a question, which one would it be . So for you what form her president if they were alive today would you want to talk to and what would you ask them . In my view in our long history in this country, the greatest american is abraham lincoln, he held this country together because it wasnt obvious to people that the country should stay together. I am not sure any other person elected president would say to the south no, we wont let you go by th away so i would ask hio questions if i had a chance to have dinner with him. One, why did you feel it was so important the south stay as part of the country and not let it go away . And secondly were you convinced that ending slavery for the emancipation progress cha nation was the only way to win the war . And are you pleased you ultimately freezed freed the slaves and why did you not do it earlier . Dickerson when you look at lincoln he came into that job with kind of a patchwork of experience and a lot of failures. What do you see in his background that tells us about lincolns success . He probably didnt have more than a second grade education. He taught himself how to read. He loved to read, but he really didnt have a classic college education. He didnt really two to law school. He took the people who were more likely to be president or president ial nominee of his party and he brought them together in his cabinet and he really took the best of their knowledge and in the end those people idolized him, abraham lincolns great talent he didnt take him self too seriously, had a great sense of humor, knew how to write well and had a way with words that no president has had since that time. Dickerson what president when you started to become a president ial historian yourself and became interested in them, which one was the first one that you really got turned on to in the presidency about . I think president kennedy was someone that took my generation and said, come in and give back to your country. Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Inspired me to go into Public Service and many people in my generation were similarly inspired. And you dedicated your life to Public Service in one form or another. What do you think is the state of that notion in america, the ask not notion . I think americans want to make the country a better country but i think what has changed from president kennedys time is many people think you can help your country as you can without having to go into Government Service. There are so many ngos today, so many ways to serve your country in nonprofit areas that do not require you to be on the government payroll, but i also think many people in our country dont feel that Government Service is as noble a thing as it once was and in fact we tend to denigrate Government Service much more than we should. Dickerson is there a danger to that . There is, for example, it is very easy to make fun of members of congress and you can always get a joke by making fun of members of congress, they are relatively modestly paid. They have an incredible life lifestyle in terms of how much work they have to put in and under enormous amounts of pressure and we dont realize the burden they often face but you can make fun of very few people in this country, you cana equity people and maybe fun of members of congress and you wont get criticized or making fun of members of congress but they are actually pretty good Public Servants and honor them more and actually pay them more. Dickerson we will have more from our interview when we come back. Whether tomorrow will be light or dark, all we see in you, is a spark we see your spark in each nod, each smile, we see sparks in every aisle. We see you find a hidden gem, and buying diapers at 3am. We see your kindness and humanity. The strength of each community. Weve seen more sparks than we can say. About 20 million just yesterday. The more we look the more we find, the sparks that make america shine. nicki hi, everyone. We just passed the one Year Anniversary of our 5g launch, so lets think about it. We were the first in the world to launch 5g mobile. We flipped the switch on 14 nfl stadiums and with 5g ultra wideband, we hit over 2 gigabits per second. And were gonna be in 30 cities by the end of this year. So thank you all. Dickerson some of our stations are leaving us now, but we will be right back with more on face the nation. Stay with us. Danafarber Cancer Institute discovered the pdl1 pathway. Pdl1. They changed how the world fights cancer. Blocking the pdl1 protein, lets the immune system attack, attack, attack cancer. Pdl1 transformed, revolutionized, immunotherapy. Pdl1 saved my life. Saved my life. Saved my life. What we do here at danafaber, changes lives everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Sarahs last tuition payment, sent off. Feeling good . Oh yeah. Now im ready to focus on my project. This is why we plan. You never cease to amaze me, maya. 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