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Without his eye for the outrageous, without his willingness to unpack the complicated stories most reporters would tell you are impossible to tell on television. Most of all, without his elegant, spare writing that serves the story without ever calling attention to itself. As kroft and everyone here just calls him kroft says, its always about the story. Kroft whats the headline here . You ever seen anything like this before . Everybody in town is talking about it, why . Why . Why didnt anybody anticipate that . So you had two wives. Really . Was it dangerous . Were you angry . Did you enjoy this . Whats going on . Stahl we had some questions of our own when we talked with the 74yearold newlyretired correspondent at his waterfront home on long islands peconic bay. 60 minutes. Kroft mmhmm. Stahl people do not walk away from this, steve. And theres a lot of people want to know why. I want to know. I tried to talk you out of it. Kroft right. Stahl im surprised. How can you walk away from this . Kroft ive always felt like, i had great amount of respect for people who whove left their professions when they were on top. And, i felt that that this was the time for me to to go. That there were other things that i wanted to do, that i still had the energy to do it, and i still had the interest in doing it. Stahl 30 years ago, when kroft joined 60 minutes, giants roamed the halls. Hold it a minute, god dammit stahl mike wallace and morley safer. Ed bradley and harry reasoner. Kroft the best that can be expected is. Stahl kroft was a veteran of the cbs London Bureau and the newsmagazine west 57th, but 60 minutes was a whole new league. Was the red carpet out for you . Did you have a tough time in the beginning . Kroft well, i think everybody who comes to that show as a correspondent has a tough time at the beginning. Its very intimidating, and stahl but didnt you once say that there that there was a hazing period for you . Kroft it was more a period where i was like a junior partner in a law firm. Stahl ah, there you go. Kroft thats the way it felt. You know, if you were fighting over a story, there wasnt any question stahl forget it, yeah. Kroft who was going to get it. I was not going to get it. Stahl right. Thats kind of hazing. We go we all go through that. Kroft yeah, yeah. It wasnt like a level playing field. Hold it, hold it. Kroft there was seniority involved. And the place was very competitive, you know, and i never quite felt like i made it. In part, because in some ways, if i did really a good story, it just created more antagonism, particularly for mike. laughs ah, come on keep going stahl yeah, he would be jealous. Kroft he would be jealous. What the dickens are you insecure about . I really dont understand. Kroft and then hed try to steal the producer. laughs stahl the producer but what about didnt dan rather sort of give you a warning . Kroft he said its like a jungle, and theres a lot of big cats over there. And they can just, with one swipe of the hand, youll be limping for, like, a year. laughs stahl welcome to 60 minutes. Kroft welcome to 60 minutes. And he was pretty much right. laughs he was pretty much right. Stahl very early on, you were doing stories that are iconic stories for 60 minutes, that people want to see again and again. Kroft right. Stahl like chernobyl. Wasnt that your very first season . Kroft yes. Stahl and you just walked into radioactive city. laughs i remember watching that and thinking, is that guy crazy . russian music kroft the only sign of life is the music, piped in continuously to keep the decontamination crews that have to be here from going crazy. Its hard to imagine a Nuclear Accident worse than this one, right . Its hard to imagine. In some hot spots, we found radiation levels 100 times normal. Stahl were you ever nervous about that, or. . Kroft i wasnt nervous, because we had done a lot of research. Stahl people dont appreciate how Much Research goes into our stories. Kroft oh, yeah. Stahl not just on whether were going to be in danger or not, but kroft thats what makes them so good. Youre sure of the mileage . Stahl before he was a familiar face on sunday night, kroft went undercover in houston to explore the classic scam of rolling back the odometers on used cars. Aww, well make a deal. Stahl he met bill whitlow, who was a master of the art. Kroft he was a crazy texas character. And everybody in the used car business brought them to bill, and bill would roll back the odometers. This is not exactly legal, right . Its not exactly legal, no. laughs kroft he laid out his whole scam for us. I want to show you one thing. All right. Kroft and when it was all over, i thought we needed to give him a heads up. Kroft see that picture . Theres a tv camera back there. Yeah. Kroft weve been taping this whole thing. Well, all right. Stahl and then, one of the great lines theres the good news and the bad news. Kroft right. laughter the good news is, were not cops. Well, i didnt think so. laughs kroft the bad news is, is were 60 minutes. Stahl a few years later, a 60 minutes team talked with bill whitlow in federal prison. He was no longer unperturbed. I think you can scrape the bottom of hell with a fine tooth comb and never come up with a man like steve kroft. Stahl kroft keeps a needlepoint pillow with whitlows words on his couch. As a badge of honor kroft as a badge of honor. My occupation has been crook most of my life. Stahl you know, youve interviewed a lot of grifters and scammers. Kroft con men, yeah. Stahl yeah, con men. Kroft you made your living ripping off little old ladies . Little old ladies and men, both, i wasnt sexist that way. Kroft how much money did you steal from medicare . About 20 million. Kroft 20 million . Yes. Kroft was it easy . Real easy. Stahl what category of person do you most like to talk about, interview, write about . Kroft one of my favorite interviews was john martarano, who was a hitman for whitey bulger, who killed Something Like 26 people. A lot of people would say youre a serial killer. I might be a vigilante, but not a serial killer. Stahl why was that your favorite . K really interesting, and he came to play. These are the rooms you dont want to go in. Kroft you could engage with him and he would talk to you. Thats the trap door for the cellar. Kroft anybody go down there and never come up . I think so, yeah. Kroft he was very honest about how he got in the business and he just kind of considered it a job. Okay, everybody settle. We have tape rolling. Steve, whenever youre settled. Kroft okay. Stahl krofts bestknown interview, and perhaps most historically important, came on super bowl sunday, 1992, when the thengovernor of arkansas, bill clinton, and his wife hillary, tried to save his president ial campaign from a tabloid sex scandal. Kroft governor, who is Gennifer Flowers . Well, i. Stahl they wanted to go somewhere that had a good reputation and answer the questions. Kroft right, one time. They wanted to answer the questions once. Stahl one time. Kroft so there was a lot of pressure to keep asking the questions. I want to go back and ask you the question again. Who is Gennifer Flowers . I met her. Kroft and they wanted hillary to be part of it. Stahl well, she came on to defend him. Kroft she did. You know, im not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man, like tammy wynette. Im sitting here because i love him. Stahl it is said that this interview saved his president ial campaign. But it also almost killed them. Kroft oh, right, with the light falling down . Stahl yeah. Can you walk us through what youre seeing . Kroft a wallmounted lamp, a highpowered a television lamp, like stahl one of these things . Kroft right. It just sprung off the wall. Jesus, mary and joseph wooowooowoo. Kroft it sounded like an explosion. I didnt know what had happened. Stahl well, she jumped. And it really did come close to her. Do you remember what she said . Kroft jesus, mary and joseph. Jesus, mary and joseph wooowooowoo. Stahl not what i would have said. Kroft not what i would have said, either. laughs stahl so youve covered politicians, celebrities, athletes, eccentrics. Kroft con men, mobsters. Stahl were you ever scared . Kroft no. Because, first of all, youre in a room, like we are right now, where you have lots of people here. Stahl protection. Kroft because you stahl you have laughs your producers protecting you. Kroft right. So i was never really worried that i was going to come under any physical threats. explosion but i was nervous the whole time i was in beirut. And i spent a lot of time in beirut. But instead of protecting him i was nervous the whole time i was in zimbabwe where we had done a really tough interview with robert mugabe. Would you be happy to see all the white people leave zimbabwe . No. Ive said so out of anger. Kroft and then we were followed by the secret police. And there was a group of marauders that came over, and i was pretty nervous. Stahl yeah. The craziness of kroft the craziness. Stahl all of this. Kroft it was fun. You know, it was a huge adrenaline rush. As churchill said, the most exhilarating moment in life is to be shot at without result, and its true. laughs hey stahl kroft insists that covering politics is never exhilarating for him. You guys are too fired up stahl so its ironic that his most frequent interviewee was a politician. Kroft you think the country is ready for a black president . Yes. Stahl for ten years, beginning in 2007, from the campaign trail to the oval office. Steve stahl . He covered barack obama. Good to see you, sir. Stahl i think you interviewed him 16 times. Kroft uhhuh. Its a lot. Stahl did you have a relationship . Kroft the only thing we had was a reportersubject relationship. Have there been moments when you said, what did i get myself into . laughs kroft i think he knew that we were not going to burn him, that we were going to ask tough questions. Kroft afghanistan . The health care bill. The unemployment problem. This is a tough business. I just want to say that. Kroft but we were going to let him answer them. Stahl and you ran them. Kroft well, we edited them down, but we were really careful to be able to distill what he was saying. And i think he appreciated that, and was comfortable with it. What else you got . laughter kroft everybody would come up to me in the white house and ul ththe on time, in thentervis, when you see the guy we see every day. And in all the interviews we did with him, i never once saw him lean on an aide or ask for a clarification or, am i saying this right . Or anything. Because he understood the issues. I dont think ive ever interviewed a politician quite like that. You interview lots of people in congress some of them cant answer anything without four aides in the room, you know, stopping them saying, well, thats not exactly right, and, you know. Stahl did you ever feel that you should have pushed harder . Kroft i dont think it was a matter of pushing hard. I think that that criticism came from the fact that i didnt get angry with him. And at the time that i came up and started doing interviews with the president , there was a long track record of how people did interviews with the president. Stahl you showed the office respect. Kroft yes, you showed the office respect. Steve, asked and answered. Lets move on. Kroft okay. Stahl oldschool standards come naturally to him. You grew up in kokomo, indiana. Kroft kokomo, indiana. Stahl what do you think you brought from kokomo that perhaps makes your sensibility different from your east west coast colleagues . Kroft well, i think that, i still think of the midwest as being the heartland of the country. Different values. Very religious, for the most part. Or, more religious than stahl east west coast. Kroft than the east west coast. And a lot of the people that i know in new york who have been very successful came from the midwest. And i thought, you know, they send kids off to fight wars. Stahl including kroft. He graduated from syracuse university, with an eye on madison avenue. Kroft then i got drafted, and then i ended up in vietnam. And i decided i didnt want to be in advertising anymore. I wanted to be in journalism. Stahl because when you were in the service, you were writing for stars and stripes . Kroft i was a correspondent photographer for stars and stripes, which was the highest journalism job in the army, and a great job. Stahl and you got to meet a lot of the Network Correspondents then. Kroft yeah, i knew immediately that thats what i wanted to do. Thats when i wanted to be, a foreign correspondent. Stahl when we come back, a look at some of the superstars, odd balls and politically powerful kroft met over 30 years at 60 minutes, and a look at his talent to unsnarl the most tangled financial stories of the great recession. ticking cbs money watch sponsored by capital one. Whats in your wall . Et. Quijano good evening, stocks could reclaim their alltime highs this week after the fed talked up the economy friday. Investors get a read on inflation and august retail sales. And apple wednesday is expected to show off its newest iphone 11, three of them. Ill elaine quijano, cbs news. 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Stahl and spoke with the most chilling. Kroft do you consider yourself a serial killer . Stahl . And the most quirky. The silence is so wonderful. Stahl . Among them, americas last lord of the manor. Kroft can you hear me now . I was in politics, so i can bellow. Stahl and the leatherclad First Citizen of interior design. Would you think youre talking to a bright architect, looking at a guy like me . Stahl kroft took a look into the life of spyturned spy novelist john lecarre. Each book feels like my last book and then i think, like a dedicated alcoholic, that one more wont do me any harm. buzzer stahl and explained the financial weapons of mass destruction behind the great recession. You took on the task of explaining really complicated economic swaps and secularizations and laughs kroft securitization, derivatives. Stahl that that kroft savvy investors figured out that the cheapest, most effective way to bet against the entire Housing Market was to buy credit defaults swaps. In effect, taking out inexpensive insurance policies that would pay off big when other peoples Mortgage Investments went south. Stahl i no one else would have even thought of writing those stories that you wrote. And you then were able just to make it so understandable. Kroft im not an expert on that kind of stuff. So it had to be put into language that i understood, that i thought i could explain. Stahl have you done a lot of stories, that, that ended up with changed legislation or changed rules, or changed the world . Kroft there was a story called the insiders. It was a story about Insider Trading in congress, and the fact that there were no laws against it. So congressmen get a pass on Insider Trading . They do. If you are a member of congress, and you sit on the defense committee, you are free to trade defense stock as much as you want to. If youre on the Senate Banking committee, you can trade bank stock as much as you want, and that regularly goes on. Stahl kroft reported how middle class politicians became millionaires, profiting from inside information they learned on capitol hill, while a reform bill, called the stock act, languished in obscurity. Congressman, congressman . Kroft we stood outside the capitol and talked to congressmen who were coming up. You know anything about the stock act . Nah, i dont think so. You ever heard of the stock act . The what . Stock act. Know anything about it . No. The stock act . Kroft after the story ran, the bill was passed. Stahl mmhmm. But when youre working on stories like that, arent you in a rage, just furious, the injustice, the unfairness . Kroft some of the times stahl the sliminess . Kroft a lot of the times, my reaction is, like, i cant believe i cant believe this is going on. I cant believe that nobody has discovered it, nobody has tried to put a stop to it. You know, i love stories that have a bit of absurdity to it. And my favorite stories are government stories where you say, youre not going to believe this is going on. Its been going on for a long time, and nothing has ever been done about it. Stahl one of the stories you did that had a huge emotional impact was bob dole. Kroft mmhmm. Stahl in 1993, bob dole was the Senate Minority leader and preparing a president ial run against bill clinton. When he was telling you about what happened to him in the war. Kroft did you realize how badly you were wounded . No, i didnt have any idea. I just knew i couldnt get up. Stahl did he break down . Kroft he did. I remember my dad coming up one christmas, he had to stand all the way on the train. The trains are so crowded. He got up there, his ankles were swollen. crying kroft i think we stopped the cameras. I think also its selfassuring. If you see somebody that loses control, you say, lets just stop the cameras. And let them stahl collect themselves. Kroft collect themselves. And the you need to be judicious at it. Too many times on television, its just cheap you know, its just cheap emotion. Jailhouse lawyers are prisoners who. Stahl kroft took particular care with the instudio introductions to his stories. His writing could be light and irreverent. Kroft racially, he is half black, half white, and in terms of political experience, green. Stahl . Or transform the potentially morbid into amusing. Kroft dead celebrities can be just as lucrative as many live ones, and in some cases, a lot less trouble. Stahl he labored over every line of every script, and then would rewrite his rewrites. Well into his 60s and 70s, kroft was pulling allnighters like a college sophomore, trying to make sure his term papers were always an a. Kroft its not an easy process. People think if youre a good writer, you just sit down and do it. It takes a lot of work. And all it takes a lot of time to do it. And to make it good stahl well, i heard that they would that the boss would approve your story, done, wrapped, finished, and youd get a whole new idea and start rewriting all over again, after it had been approved. Kroft i think mostly it was kind of like, this is pretty good, you know. And id say, well, id like to run it through the typewriter one more time, and theyd say, all right. Stahl yeah, in the middle of the night. Kroft in the middle of the night. laughs stahl come on. Fess up. laughs kroft its not exactly, i mean, youre im not disagreeing with the spirit of what youre saying. Okay. Stahl because youre notorious for working very late at night. Kroft very late. So, normally at noon is about when i would get laughs stahl start. Kroft started. I would get in the mood to write, and then you know, hopefully was out of there by i sometimes, we stayed till, you know, like, 4 00 for a screening the next day. Stahl 4 00 a. M. . Kroft yeah. laughs stahl but it was hard for you, am i right . Kroft yeah. Stahl i mean, that kroft well, eventually you eventually you come up with a hard deadline. laughs stahl yeah, like, 7 00 p. M. On sunday. Kroft thats it. Usually before that. Stahl what about people you interviewed who completely surprised you . You thought they were going to be one thing, but they turned out to be completely different. Kroft the one that immediately comes to mind was Clint Eastwood. Im crazy. Kroft i did not think i was going to like him based off of the kind of movies that he had made. Stahl he was a tough interview. Kroft he was sort of a tough interview, but the person was completely different okay, accione. Stahl didnt he just stare you down or you stared him down . Kroft yeah, but that question was kind of like when we said we have to talk about all the wives and all this stuff and i thought okay, so i tried to, like, frame the question in a way that it was likely not to get him really angry. Seven kids with five women, not all of them you were married to. No. Kroft he just reacted by just staring at me in silence. I dont think ive had anybody look at me like that before. Its a real Clint Eastwood look. Some of the most effective television, you know, everybody feels like everything has to be, like, no silence, you know . Like five seconds on television of silence is just like an eternity. How good is that . Its great. Stahl kroft had a way with celebrities and the famous, when he chose to do them. What is the question . Stahl which wasnt often. Kroft what is the most difficult part of your job . Besides dealing with people like me . laughs how long, how long kroft one of my favorite stories was the eagles. You know, they were together, they broke up, they had a singles career, they got back together, they broke up again, and glenn frey and don henley clearly did not like each other very much. Were in business together. Kroft i think it was frey that was talking and henley was just like, rolling his eyes. Stahl and you got the shot laughs kroft like it was so much b. S. laughs its the one thing everybody remembered from the piece. laughs thats just silliness. Kroft some people open up and let you see and do anything you want. Stahl Supreme CourtJustice Clarence thomas fit that category. This is what we spent our time doing, this, still got it. laughter kroft do you, um. . Hes had a stroke, can we stop . Oh, sorry, i was ready to jump in with the paddles. Kroft those are really the ones that are the most fun, because you get to see them over in different settings. Samuel l. Jackson was like that. You got like eight pages of stuff. Kroft i know, man. I am not that interesting. Roft Dustin Hoffman was like that. This is stardom, this is what stardom gets you, this is pretty good. Yes. Kroft tom hanks was pretty much up for anything. Are you nervous now . Very nervous, because youre here. Kroft i can remember doing a profile on jerry seinfeld. Stahl it was hilarious. Kroft it was hilarious because he was hilarious. Steve laughter kroft he liked being interviewed, he loved the idea of being on 60 minutes because his mother was a big fan, and there wasnt anything you couldnt ask him. Stahl but there was one moment where you did ask him what couldve been an embarrassing question. Kroft you think youre immature . Oh, yeah. Kroft sexually . Yeah. Kroft why . I am not going to talk about being sexually immature on 60 minutes. Kroft but you think you are. Its not 60 swinging minutes. Kroft right, right. Can we get some powder on my face . Im sweating god. Kroft and then you get people. Stahl this is off limits, this is off limits. Kroft right. The most extreme example of that was beyonce. It depends on where we are. laughs kroft she controlled everything. laughs we had a couple of brief moments with her, and a short interview, and a couple of walkthroughs and that was it. Theyre probably going to show this on 60 minutes, so can everybody tickticktick . Stahl you know, when you told me you were going to leave, i thought, of all the important things you had done for the show, and those stories that you wrote about the collaterization and all of that, you gave the show a dimension, an important dimension that we hadnt had before. Um. Were really going to miss you. Kroft well, im going to miss you too, lesley. But im not going to be a complete stranger. Im going to be, you know, ill, im im sure ill see you. Stahl but im saying something not about personal. I mean, its about your contribution over your 30 years to the show, that was huge. You gave us depth. You you brought 60 minutes to places that no other Television Journalism could ever have gone, without you. And i think we still need it. And a lot of us are very unhappy that youre leaving. And we dont think that 74 is old. laughs some of us, anyway. Kroft look, i thank you. It means a lot to me to hear you say that. And, the 60 minutes will be fine, just fine. ticking cbs sports hq is presented by progressive insurance. Im james brown with the scores from the n. F. L. Today. Philly overcomes a 17point deficit to win its opener. Baltimore scores a franchise record 59 points to crush miami. Minnesota scores 21 points off of turnovers to beat atlanta. Buffalo storms back to sink the jets. Sammy watkins had three scores as k. C. Rolls. For 24 7news and highlights, as k. C. Rolls. For 24 7news and highlights, visit cbssportshq. Com. Announcer ride the totally realistic traffic jam. Beep, beep, beep, beep children traffic jam announcer and the worlds first never bump bumper cars. 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Tonight, were taking you to eigg, or the peoples republic of eigg, as its jokingly referred to in scotland, a country where half the privatelyheld land is owned by fewer than 500 people. A lot of it is tied up in huge estates owned by lairds, who often run them as fiefdoms. 20 years ago, after two centuries of servility, the people of eigg drove away their laird and seized control of their own destiny, establishing the first communityowned estate in scotlands history. We wanted to see what theyve made of it. Just three miles wide, six miles long and ten miles off the scottish coast, eigg is part of the inner hebrides, surrounded by the isles of rum, muck and skye at the edge of the north atlantic. It is an ungroomed masterpiece of nature, too wild to tame. A craggy isle of incredible beauty populated mostly by sheep, and the dogs that keep track of them. The people do their best to stay clear, while taking everything in. So whats your average day like . Charlie galli some people would say, very lazy. I like to think i just make the hard work look easy. All depends on your outlook. Kroft Charlie Galli is the taxi driver on eigg, and the only source of Public Transportation up and down the islands furrowed main artery. Its a niche he claimed for himself when he arrived from the mainland with his wife and this aging volvo four years ago. Plenty of time to get the feel of the place. You know everybody on the island . Galli i know them and their shoe sizes. And like i say, theres no secrets on an island, so. Kroft so what are they talking about this week . Galli mainly you. bagpipes kroft its not like they dont get visitors. 12,000 tourists came here last year, most of them to spend only a few hours. There are very few places to stay. We were going to be here for days, asking questions about eiggs quirky history, and everyone directed us to maggie fyffe, the island secretary, who landed here 41 years ago after touring afghanistan in a camper. Maggie fyffe i never imagined that i would spend the rest of my life here. laughs kroft does that mean you like it . Fyffe i think so, yeah. laughs kroft it was 1976, just after the entire island had been purchased by a wealthy english toff named keith schellenberg, who became the seventh laird of eigg. Keith schellenberg welcome to eigg. Kroft under scotlands feudal landlord system, he had absolute power over virtually every aspect of his estate. What kind of impact did he have on peoples lives . Fyffe he had that control over everything. And people, jobs, houses. And he wouldnt give anybody a lease on anything. Kroft by all accounts, schellenberg used the island as his personal playground, lavishly entertaining guests, and driving about in a 1927 rolls royce, while most of his tenants lived in poverty without electricity. Was there a rebellion . Fyffe eventually, yep. laughs kroft it started with a slow burn, that burst into flames one night in 1994, when schellenbergs beloved rolls royce met a fiery end, burnt to a crisp like a slice of bacon under circumstances still unexplained. Fyffe a mysterious fire, spontaneous combustion, who knows . Kroft so did you ever figure out what happened to the rolls royce . Fyffe no. Kroft headline writers all over britain couldnt believe their luck. There was scrambled eigg, burnt rolls, and eigg comes to the boil. It went on for a year, until schellenberg gave up, expressing his disdain for the islanders in this bbc interview. Schellenberg i think that my ultimate failure with eigg is that i cant be bothered to try and get on with them anymore. Kroft his final act was to sell the island to a wacky german, who called himself maruma, and claimed to be an artist of note and a professor. He turned out to be neither. Up to his beret in debt, maruma stopped paying peoples wages, and within two years, creditors put eigg up for auction. Maggie fyffe and others thought, why not buy the island for ourselves . Fyffe by the time we got to maruma, and two years of somebody that was living in stuttgart and had only visited for four days, it had convinced everybody that we wouldnt have to do very much to do better than what hed done, which was nothing laughs kroft no one in scotland had ever tried a Community Buyout before, certainly not 64 residents on a depressed, undeveloped island with no cash or credit. But lots of people were familiar with their story, and fancied the idea of wee folk taking on the big gu in 1997, a public Fundraising Campaign brought in 2. 5 million to close the deal. The funds came from 10,000 individual contributors, and one huge check from an unknown woman. Fyffe the bulk of the money came from a mystery benefactor. Kroft a mystery benefactor . Sounds like dickens. Fyffe its a pretty crazy story, really. Kroft you dont know who she is . Fyffe the only string attached was that she remained anonymous. Kroft she ever been to the island . Fyffe not as far as i know. Kroft do you know why she did it . Fyffe i think shes given money to a lot of what she regards as good causes, and we were lucky enough to be one of them. Kroft that was 20 years ago. The eiggers and their friends marked the two decades of selfrule with a big blowout they call a ceilidh, with traditional music, dancing, and drink. We decided to cancel the next days shoot to allow time for recovery, but 24 hours wasnt enough. What time did you leave the ceilidh . Johnny jobson it was about 8 00 a. M. , i think, when we finally left, yeah. Kroft how long did it take you to recover . Jobson eh, itll probably be tomorrow. Kroft Johnny Jobson first experienced eigg in his 20s, working on a fishing boat as a scallop diver. Since then, a lot has changed. One, there is electricity now, which allowed him to move his wife and family here last year and edit a sports journal online from their tiny cottage. Its required some sacrifices, but they love the beauty of the place, and its eccentricities. Jobson youll look at the scenery or youll see a pod of donsomthrough, andou juucky you are. Kroft you ofcters on this l. Jobson yeah. Kroft were they normal when they came here . Jobson laughs yeah, not all of us. Kroft dean wiggin turned up in a kayak 14 years ago, and hes still here. Hes very good at fixing things. Jobs are extremely scarce, so you have to bring one with you or use your wits to invent one. Sarah boden its one of those places that really gets into your soul, i think. Its quite enchanting. Kroft sarah boden runs her uncles sheep farm on eigg. She grew up here, then left to work as a music journalist in london, where she met her future partner, johnny lynch, one of scotlands most popular musicians. She coaxed him to eigg. Did you think he was going to come . Boden not really laughter no, because i was living in a caravan at the time and yeah, it was all quite rustic. Johnny lynch yeah, you did look a bit shocked. Boden and johnnys, you know, a proper, suburban, city lynch what . Boden well, youre not a natural country boy, are you . Lynch if you mean, i look after my nails, then, then yes, yes i do. But, yeah, i knew from when as soon as i got here, i couldnt really see a reason for me to go back. And, just look at me now. See if you can spell it. Kroft when it comes to the essentials on eigg, there is basically one of everything. One Primary School for five students. One grocery shop where 100 islanders all choose from the same food. And one pub at the tea room down by the wharf, where the best beer is local. Stu mccarthy and gabe mcvarish, who are both married to women who grew up on eigg, got so tired of drinking the mass produced stuff from the mainland they started their own mini microbrewery two years ago. So this is it. Is this legal . Stu mccarthy its legal. Gabe mcvarish its legal. Kroft they make eight different brews, including i am the eiggman, which is very popular with the tourists. Theyre just beginning to turn a profit, but say theyve saved a lot of money drinking their own beer. Are you the biggestselling beer on eigg . Mccarthy thankfully, yes. Yeah, we can say that. Kroft none of these younger people would be here without the islands tiny but unique power grid that runs almost entirely on renewable energy, a combination of wind, hydroelectric and solar, the first time its ever been accomplished anywhere. Fyffe that is the biggest and most impressive project that weve done. Kroft its changed everything, right . Fyffe oh, yeah. Its made life so much easier. Kroft it was designed and funded with multiple grants, mostly from the european union, and engineers from all over the world have come to study it. Like Everything Else on eigg, it is run and maintained by revolving committees of islanders, the only visible sign of any sort of government. There are no offices, no court system, no police. Is there any crime on the island . Galli theres no crime or anything. Kroft never . Galli not that i can remember. Kroft nobodys snatched something or borrowed something . Galli they borrow it, and youll get it, usually within the week, you know. Returned to you, kind of thing. You just dont know where it is at that point in time, you know, when youre looking for it. But it will turn up again. It cant go anywhere. Its on an island, so, yeah. Kroft what happens if somebody gets sick . Galli you basically have to be sick on a tuesday. The doctor comes from skye on a tuesday and spends the day here. And thats, sometimes, weather permitting. Its really rough in the wintertime. Kroft eigg is dependent on boats for everything. When a ferry comes in with fuel and food, people flock to the wharf to help out. Its not a courtesy. Its a necessity, on an island where everyone is more or less scraping by. To ser other, and put up with each other. The island is too small for feuds or lingering resentments. Whats the difference between people who live on the mainland and people who live on eigg . Galli you know, the people on eigg, id have to say, are more evolved. Kroft Charlie Galli, the taxi driver and amateur philosopher, says most people here have done the whole life on the mainland thing and rejected it. Galli theyre all doing their hamster wheel thing, you know. Kroft hamster wheel . Galli yeah. You get a mortgage, you get a car, you get a job. You do this and the next thing. And they all get so involved, they forget to look about them and see whats actually going on in life, you know. birds chirping kroft you should know, eigg is not always served sunny side up. As the days get shorter, the windy, Rainy Weather turns to sleet, with gusts up to 100 miles an hour. The boats might not get through for a week, so people keep lots of beans and spam in the storeroom. Even the sheep dogs look forlorn. Boden if you accidentally open your mouth when a gust of winds coming, it involuntarily fills your lungs. Youre like, gasps . Kroft to live here, you have to be resilient, self sufficient and patient honking and not just with the sheep. Galli the cows like to go down and lie on the beach, on the sand. And theyll all trail down the road. So, you cannot argue with a cow, you know. It wants to do what it wants to do. And youve just got to give it plenty of time, you know. Kroft there are no grand ambitions here and no discernible interest in development despite the sea, the cliffs and the vistas. The owners dont want hotels or a donald trump golf course or hundreds of new residents. Fyffe i think were looking for one or two at a time. I think thats how, how it works here. Then it works a lot better. And weve got time to get used to new people. laughs kroft we would have liked to stay longer, in this stress free, nonconflict zone where everyone seems to be more or less on the same page but we were out of clean laundry, we had a ferry to catch, and hamster wheels to jump back onto. As for the people of eigg, i dont think they were sad to see us go. ticking stahl okay, so, the question youve been dreading all along. Kroft mmhmm. Stahl your favorite story . Kroft i mean, theyre so different. Out of 500, kroft picks ten. In full, and online, at 60minutesovertime. Com. Sponsored by prevnar 13. 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