Jennifer connelly, chat and music from indigo girls, an all new closer look. Featuring the 8g band with jay weinberg. [ cheers and applause ] and now, seth meyers. Seth good evening. Im seth meyers. This is late night. We hope youre all doing well. And now, if you dont mind, were going to get to the news. When one of former President Trumps lawyers asked Stormy Daniels yesterday if she hates trump, daniels said, quote, yes. So, as it turns out, trump does have a type. [ laughter ] President Biden today visited Gateway Technical College in wisconsin, an appropriate choice for joe biden, the Safety School of president s. [ laughter ] the New York Times today published a report on independent president ial candidate robert f. Kennedy jr. s health issues, including a dead worm in his brain. Or as thats known in libertarian circles, a running mate. [ laughter ] in a new interview, former President Trump said the south dakota governor kristi noem has had, a quote, rough couple of days. Yeah, she needs more bad press like she needs a hole in her dog. [ laughter ] [ audience oohs ] [ laughter ] if you see me wincing, its because i know whats coming. [ laughter ] thats right. Former President Trump said that south dakota governor kristi noem has had a rough couple of days. Said noem, who said rough . [ laughter ] [ audience oohs ] [ applause ] i hope those arent hooray, its over laughs. Former House Speaker paul ryan said in a new interview that he will not vote for former President Trump and will instead write in a better candidate, like that dead worm in robert f. Kennedy jr. s brain. [ laughter ] after a meeting with House Speaker mike johnson yesterday, amid her attempts to remove him from power, congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene told reporters that the ball is in Johnsons Court and added that she is, quote, so done with words. Really . Based on your state of the union outfit, i thought you were a huge fan of words. [ laughter ] you have more words on you than a southern womans kitchen. [ laughter ] Norwegian Cruise Line recently announced its partnering with a specialty travel company next year to host an 11day nude cruise for 2,300 passengers, including up to two women. [ laughter ] oh, pam, whyd we do this . Thats right. Norwegian cruise line is partnering with a specialty travel company to host an 11day nude cruise. And i cant even decide what the most horrifying part oh, right, the limbo. [ laughter ] and that was the monologue, everybody. We are off and running. [ cheers and applause ] we got a great show for you tonight. Shes an Academy Award winning actress you know from a beautiful mind, requiem for a dream and top gun maverick. Shes currently starring in dark matter on apple tv plus. Jennifer connelly will be here, you guys. [ cheers and applause ] they are grammy Award Winning musical icons whose career documentary indigo girls its only life after all is out now. Amy ray and Emily Saliers of indigo girls are here to chat and perform for us later in the show. [ cheers and applause ] before we get to all that, its been a humiliating week for maga politicians as donald trump came facetoface with Stormy Daniels in his criminal trial and one of his leading vp contenders, south dakota governor kristi noem was grilled repeatedly after she got caught lying in her book. For more on this its time for a closer look. [ cheers and applause ] seth trumps trial keeps making history. Its already the first ever criminal trial of an expresident. Its the first time an expresident has been found in contempt and threatened with jail time, and now its also the first time an expresident has come facetoface with a porn star he had an affair with while she describes the position they were in, the silk pajamas he was wearing, and the magazine she spanked him on the ass with. [ laughter ] i mean, unless you count the time john adams was caught in a compromising position with adult daguerreotype model rocky waters and a copy of the farmers almanac. [ laughter ] oh, they left that out of the Paul Giamatti miniseries. Oh, abigail, i am vexed. And horny. [ laughter ] good news for giamatti, all the kinky stuff they took out of john adams, they put right into billions. [ laughter ] i have a sincere question. How are they going to teach this era of history in high school . They cant say most of the words. A frazzled gym teacher will have to cover it in sex ed. All right, kids, settle down. Were going to be covering stds here today. The dos and donts of safe sex. And all right. 45th president of the united states. [ laughter ] seriously, how are teachers supposed to handle even news anchors cant report the news without turning red. In the courtroom, our reporters in there are sending us notes, updates every second that they can. And mr. Trumps defense attorney, susan necheles, is saying, quote, were informed the second witness today worldwide Stormy Daniels. We want to renew our objection to her testifying particularly about any details of any sexual acts. That is mr. Trumps attorney there. Do you mean more than just, we had sex, judge merchan asks the defense attorney, susan necheles. Yes, your honor, necheles says. So judge merchan there establishing that, beyond we had sex, is what theyre talking about. Hoffinger, the Prosecutor Says theyre being careful to admit some details that are, quote, too salacious. again, this is where we are as a country right now that we are having this discussion and this debate in the courtroom. Prosecutors is also saying, quote, in terms of the sexual act, it will be very basic. I cant believe i have to read this on television. [ laughter ] its not going to involve any descriptions. Better you than me, jake tapper. Its not going to involve descriptions of anything in particular. [ laughter ] just read it. Read it on the screen. Seth theyre bullying jake tapper. [ laughter ] im surprised his voice didnt crack. Its not going to involve any descriptions of say the words, dork, sexual acts [ laughter ] journalists are reacting to the news the way my friends and i reacted when the principal caught us looking at a playboy during recess. You hold it, jake. No. Youre the one who found it. Whos this loser on the cover anyway . [ laughter ] no wonder they left this one in the woods. Heres what they wouldnt say. A prosecutor told the judge that any sexual descriptions elicited from her team would be very basic and include no descriptions of genitalia. I had two different simultaneous reactions when i heard this. Thank god and why not. [ laughter ] because when someone says were going to talk about his genitalia, but dont worry, we wont get into specifics, its impossible to think, but what why . What are the specifics . [ laughter ] i really, dont get me wrong. I really dont want to hear about Donald Trumps weird penis, but also, i kind of want him to have to hear it. [ laughter ] someone reading a description of your weird penis in court sounds like a dream youd have after eating a hot pocket you found on the train. [ laughter ] it would be so funny to hear it described with him in the room. Just for the chance during stormys testimony trump would sneak a glimpse down at his pants and the courtroom artist would capture the moment. [ laughter ] or maybe just be so nervous as she was describing it that they would add sweat drops from a cathy cartoon. [ laughter ] all in all, it was not a fun day for trump and itll only get worse on thursday when stormy returns to the stand. Now, shes there to establish her credibility as a witness and recount what happened, given that its essential to the alleged crime. But fox news host sean hannity thinks prosecutors have an ulterior motive. Why was she in the courtroom . She was there for one reason. And this should scare every american. She was there to humiliate and embarrass donald trump. Seth look, if you dont want an adult film star testifying in a trial of a former president , dont vote for a president who slept with an adult film star. And you might say, but i didnt know. You might say you might say, i didnt know he slept with an adult film star before i voted for him. And the reason you didnt is because he paid her off so she wouldnt tell anyone. And thats why shes in court. And thats the reason. The fact that hes also humiliated and embarrassed is whats called, the legal term, a bonus. [ laughter ] also, sean, you dont need a grand conspiracy to humiliate and embarrass donald trump. You just need to play video clips of donald trump. No one could embarrass him more than hes embarrassed himself. He definitely dances like nobodys watching. [ laughter ] he dresses like darth vader if the death star had a softball team. [ laughter ] theres nothing Stormy Daniels or anyone else can say that would be more embarrassing for donald trump than this. We are a nation that just recently heard that saudi arabia and russia will oh. [ laughter ] seth true story. Thats the same noise trump made when stormy spanked him with the magazine. [ laughter ] hit me one more oh. [ laughter ] so, trump was humiliated in court and yet he was somehow not the most humiliated republican politician this week. Because theres also south dakota governor kristi noem. You might remember her as the leading trump vp contender, who in a book, with her name on it, volunteered the information that she once killed a puppy. Out of nowhere. No one forced it out of her. She sat down at the old remington and thought, whats a good yarn for my new book . [ light laughter ] something that lets everyone learn what makes kristi tick. Oh, right. Blew dogs brains out. [ typewriter noises ] [ laughter ] hello, typewriter repair shop . [ laughter ] i think mines haunted. [ laughter ] how long does he want me to play the typewriter . [ light laughter ] until he stops moving his fingers . But im not looking at him. [ laughter ] oh, boy. Well, in the same book where she bragged about killing a dog, she also claimed to have met north Korean Leader kim jongun. And now it turns out that did not happen. In the aptly titled memoir no going back noem writes, i remember when i met with north korean dictator kim jongun. Im sure he underestimated me having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants. I had been a childrens pastor after all. And tonight the Governors Team is admitting that the story is not true. Kristi noem never actually met with kim jongun. On sunday the books publisher said the passage is being removed at noems request. As soon as it was brought to my attention, we went forward and have made some edits. Seth as soon as it was brought to my attention is such a weird thing to say about a book you wrote. [ laughter ] so clearly, what were finding out, noem did not actually write or even really Pay Attention to what was in this book, when it was being written by some other person. Did they at least tell the ghost writer who kristi noem was or did they just hire a coked up hollywood screenwriter and tell them to go nuts . [ snort ] yeah, man. So shes from north dakota, so this book could be a real snooze. Im thinking we put in that she stared down kimjongun and also, maybe, i dont know, should we say she shot a [ bleep ] dog . [ laughter ] should we do that . You want to sell books or you want to sell books . [ laughter and applause ] but even if noem wanted to claim the book was written entirely by a ghost writer, oh, is that earlier the typewriter. [ laughter ] does sound effects think thats what a ghost writer is . [ laughter ] but even if noem wanted to claim the book was written entirely by a ghost writer who made up the story without her knowledge, that wouldnt hold up either because she read the audio book. She even posted clips of herself recording it. Perhaps the most significant takeaway so far is that more freedom, not more government, is the answer. Seth probably knowing noem, she would probably say, as you could see in the clip, i wasnt wearing headphones. So there was no way to hear the words coming out of my mouth. [ laughter ] so, noem presumably made up this story, or at the very least, read the part about meeting kim jongun and didnt raise any objections about the fact that it didnt happen, and now shes going on what can best be described as a humiliation tour, where she tries to promote the book in interviews but ends up getting grilled. Every interviewer across the political spectrum has been fairly asking her the same simple straightforward question, did you did you, though, meet kim jongun. And she keeps giving the same robotic answers. Did you meet kim jongun . Well, you know, as soon as this was brought to my attention, i certainly made some changes. So, you did not meet with kim jongun . Thats what youre saying . Ive met with many, many world leaders, many world leaders. Ive travelled around the world. Ive travelled around the world. I should not have put that anecdote in the book and at my request, they removed it. That specifically didnt happen . Im saying that im not talking about that meeting. Im not talking about my meetings with world leaders. Its a simple question. Did you or did you not meet with kim jongun . Thats thats the answer that i have for you is that im it will be adjusted and as soon as i became aware of it, that content was removed. Why did you remove it . Is it because its untrue . Because no, i been this is something that i think is im not going to talk about. I dont talk about personal meetings with world leaders. And im gonna continue to stay there. But clearly if youre taking it out of the book, its because its untrue. Ive given you my answer. No. And thats not the answer. I would say that, you know, this is something that i asked to have adjusted and have the content and that name removed. And that is truly what the action has been. So, you didnt have a conversation with kim when you were at the dmv . I dont have conversations about by conversations with world leaders. But the anecdote indicates that it happened, right . Im not going to talk about my conversations with world leaders. Seth man, she nailed it. [ laughter ] put the controversy to bed. This is the smoothest pr tour ive seen since Prince Andrew claimed he lost the ability to sweat in the faulklands war. [ laughter ] its amazing that virtually every interview shes done on every network from cbs to fox to newsmax goes the exact same way. I bet when she sits down to dinner with her family, even her kids are like, but did you meet kim jongun . [ laughter ] obviously she didnt. She lied, got caught lying, and now shes removing the anecdote but is doing this bizarre thing where she just wont admit it, leading to mind boggling exchanges like this one. You said you when you learned of it, you immediately took action. You recorded the whole book and the audio book. You read this whole passage out loud. Why didnt you take it out then when you read the audio book . You know, ive travelled for years. Ive been involved in policy for almost 30 years. And so, ive gone all across the world. Ive met with world leaders. So you didnt realize when you recorded the audio book . When it was brought to my attention, and it was i had asked the publisher if they would remove the name and they did. Okay. I just but you didnt answer my question. When you record you posted pictures and video of yourself recording the audio book. When you recorded your own audio book, you didnt notice this passage . Im not going to discuss about my meetings with world leaders. Im not asking you to. Im asking you about recording the audio book. Did you want to talk about Something Else today . No, i just wanted to know i mean i were just trying to get a straight answer from you. You did. Seth shes digging a hole so deep she could bury a dog in it. [ laughter ] [ audience oohs ] [ applause ] kristi noems getting grilled harder than criminal defendant donald trump. Not only is she making trump look good by comparison, shes making kim jongun look good by comparison. [ laughter ] for all we know, she was going to meet him and then right before, he said, wait, isnt that the lady who killed her puppy . No thank you. [ laughter ] im a monster but im not that. [ laughter ] arguably the worst part for noem is that shes been told multiple times to her face by right wing media figures that shes no longer in the running to be trumps vp. Governor, if you asked me a month ago whos at the top of the list to run with donald trump, i would have said your name. If you asked me that same question this morning, i dont even think youre on the list. Oh, my goodness. Oh wed be consumed with emails saying, i wont vote for this person. I wont vote for trump if he puts her in the Vice President ial spot. Well i tell you, stewart, im sorry youre not hearing from real americans that live on farms and ranches. Seth shes right. Real americans know what life is like on the farm, herding the cattle, tending the soil, lying about meeting kim jongun. [ laughter ] you know, down home, salt of the earth stuff. Ill admit that my knowledge about farm life begins and ends with the song about old mcdonald, but as far as i can remember, there wasnt a verse about a dog that ended with a bang bang here and a bang bang there. [ laughter and applause ] but this is the perfect encapsulation of the maga movement. It always leads to humiliation, its a lesson everyone who has ever associated themselves with donald trump has learned. If you want to be in his orbit, you have to be willing to trade your dignity. And trump himself is now experiencing that reality firsthand. Althought, from what weve heard in court, he seems to be enjoy being humiliated. When stormy testified, he could be heard saying oh. [ laughter ] seth this has been a closer look. [ cheers and applause ] well be right back with jennifer connelly, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] announcer for more of seths closer looks, be sure to subscribe to late night on youtube. Bombas makes absurdly comfortable underwear. 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Unlike your eternal elation. Ok, settle down. Shop online or book an exam at americasbest. Com. [ cheers and applause ] seth give it up for the fantastic 8g band, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] back again on drums tonight, hes a fourtime Grammy Nominated drummer who began his career at age 17 with Bruce Springsteen and the e street band. For the last decade, he was behind the kit for metal band, slipknot. Now catch him on tour with skate punk legends, suicidal tendencies. For more information, check him out on instagram. Jay weinberg is here, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] thank you so much, jay. Our first guest tonight is an Academy Award winning actress you know from films such as a beautiful mind, requiem for a dream and top gun maverick. She stars in dark matter which is streaming now on apple tv plus. Lets take a look. What was the name of that hotel that we stayed in . With which . You remember last thanksgiving we stayed in that hotel. You were obsessed with it. What was it called . Mahakal. Mahakal. Thats it. Mahakal. It was beautiful. We loved it. Seth please welcome back to the show jennifer connelly, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome back. Hi. Thank you. So nice to see you. Seth that was a really good, creepy clip. [ light laughter ] yeah. Somethings brewing. Seth yeah. Its tricky because this is this is a book i read, a Science Fiction book i read that i loved. Yeah, its of the same title. Seth and im very happy that it was adapted into a book, but its tricky to find a clip because theres so much to the story. And i feel like that was a really good one because youre like, whats going on with these two . Yeah. cause the basic premise is theres a guy and hes abducted into an alternate version of his life. Meanwhile, someone else is living his life. So seth i like that thats the excuse im going to give my wife when i cant remember a hotel we stayed at. [ laughter ] yeah, yeah. Seth im gonna be like, here long story short, i have been abducted. Yes. [ laughter ] seth did you were you we had your costar, Joel Edgerton here yesterday. And he said one of the nice things about this adaptation is that, blake crouch, who wrote the book, is also the show runner and wrote the scripts for the show. That must be a nice thing to have somebody who originally came up with this, you know, very unique idea also on set. It was amazing. You know, its different shooting a film, the director is really the person, your goto person on set. And in the show, we have different directors. We had, you know, one director who did the first three episodes and then you have a different director for the next two, you know, in different blocks. But blake, who is our show runner and who wrote the novel and wrote many of our scripts was there. He was the person. He was the, sort of, the through line. So, it was wonderful. It was wonderful having him there. And i think for fans of the book, they know, they know that its really his vision. Hes part of every decision. Seth i think especially i dont want to be hard on them as a fan base, but i do think Science Fiction fans also sometimes in particular like to know that it is in a safe pair of hands of the people who came up with the idea in the first place. Yeah. Of course. If you love a book, you know, you want to feel that its adapted in a way thats faithful seth and i did love the book and i do think its a wonderful adaptation. Did you know of the book, like when it first came to you, how much did you know . No, i didnt i hadnt read the book. And i obviously subsequently did and really enjoyed it and referred back to it many times, you know, because it was like a great it was like a journal for my character to have, you know. Seth its also, and i think this is true of all the best scifi that its you know, theres a lot of big ideas, but its also about really human stuff. Its about like family and marriage and grief. Yeah. Seth did you field like the groundedness of it is also what makes it so much thats a part of what i loved about it. I mean, yeah, hes kind of hes traversing these incredible worlds, but hes doing that hes also navigating the landscape of his marriage, you know, and, sort of, the choices that hes made in his life, you know, as hes wondering, like, you know, should i have done this . Should i have made this choice . Should i have had a family . What if i had pursued my career . And thats kind of playing out. The sort of domestic questions are playing out in this really spectacular way. Seth you i would imagine, even if you dont like watching yourself on camera, you must be fascinated to see how something in a scifi world looks when you watch it again. Yeah, well, theres like in this, theres so much i wasnt a part of and i didnt see. You know, like all of that other world that hes in as hes, you know and also interesting is it was its different realities but theyre different versions of his own city that he keeps going back to, which i thought was pretty cool. And i wasnt part of that stuff in the show. So it was really fun for me to see. Seth thats great. All of that. Yeah. Seth now we talked to joel yesterday about what other path. If he hadnt because, again, this is about the choices you make and where you end up. If he hadnt been an actor, what would he have done . He pretty much admitted hed i think he would just he has no other skills. I mean, thats [ laughter ] im paraphrasing. Well, hes really talented as an actor. Seth hes really good at acting. So, that works out well for him. Hes really, really good at it. Seth yeah, but it does seem like a giant step down. A career two for joel. What about you . Do you think about like what else you could have done . You know i actually thought about it in this version of my life because i started working when i was so young. I started working when i was 10 years old. Seth thats crazy. And it wasnt, like it wasnt something that i had pursued. Like i never even did a school play. Like i didnt even watch movies. I was, like it was my moms idea and i started working. And then at a certain point, when i got a little bit older, i was like, do i really want to do this . Like this isnt what i chose for my life. But i well, here i am. So i rechose it. But after investigation and really thinking about it. Seth thats good. Your children actually have a they have a take on what would be a good second career for you. Oh, yeah. My son, stellan, he thinks that i would have been a pretty good detective. [ laughter ] seth i think that tells us a lot about what kind of mom you were. [ laughter ] exactly. Im like, im not sure thats a compliment. Am i really like hypervigilant mom who sees everything . [ light laughter ] seth do your kids give a lot of feedback on your work . Are they honest . They havent gotten to see a lot of it, to be honest. Seth i guess thats true. Which is probably for the best. Seth yeah. You havent done a lot of yeah. They watch this show actually, and they really enjoyed it. And they said very nice things about it. Seth great. [ light laughter ] agnes, you know, they all have grown up coming to work with us. Agnes is the most vocal and cut throat. Yeah. Theyll come and theyll like sit at the monitor and put headphones on and listen and watch. Yeah, shell sit there and watch. And she is really she does not mince words. So, shell be like, yeah, mom , ill come up after, shell be like, yeah, mom, so in that take, you put your hand on his shoulder. Not working. Try another [ laughter ] next take try not doing that. Ill be like, okay. [ laughter ] sure. Thanks. And shes right. Shes usually right. Seth oh, really . Yeah, yeah. Seth oh, thats the heartbreaking thing. I know, right . [ laughter ] seth my wife has advice all the time and the most heartbreaking thing is how right she is. Is she . Seth you know though, youre being hard on your work. My kids are eight, six, and two. You know what their Favorite Movie is . What . Seth house of sand and fog. [ laughter ] it maybe seems like youve gotten it a little bit better than your husband. When paul was here, he said that he went on maybe it was the netflix account or some account where they changed the icon, his icon, it was paul bettany, wonderful actor, to his face and they changed the name to worst avenger. Yeah, its true. [ laughter ] [ audience oohs ] it was like, his avatar, theres a picture of him as vision. He plays vision in yeah. And theres a picture of him, and it says, worst avenger. Seth i will say its true. It was very funny, though. Seth its very funny to burn your dad in a way that youre not there when he finds out. Yeah. [ laughter ] seth like you got to have a lot of confidence as a kid to be like, hell get there, eventually. [ light laughter ] this will age fine. Yeah, theyre good at that. Theyre good at those kinds of pranks. I have one we have this well this is a long story, maybe i shouldnt go into it. But we have this painting that i loathe that someone gave us thats an oil painting of my husband thats, like, they took was it, like, a playgirl thing . Was it Burt Reynolds . Seth oh, yeah. I remember, yes. The famous picture . The cover . Seth where hes like leaned out, yeah. So they did an oil had commissioned an oil painting of that with my husbands face on it. Seth yeah, thats no good. And its so disturbing to me. [ light laughter ] and paul tried to put it like over our mantle and i took it down and i hid it, and then it became this game where then hed find it and hed put it someplace else. And then now its become a game with the kids. And they torture me with it. So last time, id hidden it, and i found some place really good where theyd never find it. And i went to go to sleep at night. And they, while i was out, they had rigged it with fishing wire. [ laughter ] it was hanging from the ceiling. Like im looking up and it was seth thats really good. There must be a moment where youre like both mad and also, like, you know what . Im really proud, yeah. Im proud. A little proud, because thats a good joke. [ laughter ] seth anybody who puts the time in, youre like, you do love me. I know. [ laughter ] seth thanks for being here. Congrats on the show. Thanks for having me. Seth such a delight. [ cheers and applause ] thank you. Seth jennifer connelly, everyone. Dark matter is now streaming on apple tv plus with new episodes available on wednesdays. Well be right back with indigo girls. [ cheers and applause ] are you happy . Of course i am. I love you echoing jason whats happening . How did you get in here . I live here with you. 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And we didnt have to be polite women that were singing and sitting down with our little guitars. Seth please welcome to the show indigo girls, amy ray and Emily Saliers. [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome to the show. Its such an honor to have you both here. Its good to be here. Seth very exciting time with both the documentary and then of course, closer to fine featured in the barbie sound track. What a cool thing that must have been, to be a part of. I mean, it fell out of the sky. [ light laughter ] at first we were like, barbie . I dont know weve got to check our political consciousness. [ light laughter ] and then its like greta gerwig . Okay. Seth yeah. What about with the documentary. Did you have hesitation about sort of, you know, doing a film about the last 40 years of this incredible career . You know, when we met alexandria bombbach, the director, we just had a really good feeling about her and had seen her other films. And our basic, you know, reply to her about a documentary was, we wanted it to be sort of about the community and not really like a vanity piece, just about indigo girls. And she was down with that. And i think that was her vision too. We just had faith in her. We kind of handed everything over to her and its her baby. She did it. Seth how soon into your career, emily, did you realize the community you had with your fan base . Well, at first our community was our parents, because they were the only ones that, like i mean, we started in high school. We got fake i. D. S, we started playing in bars with the blessing of our parents. But little by little seth no hesitation on the parents back in the day . [ light laughter ] no, but i mean, you know well, there was one a couple of gigs maybe. We called them fern bars. You know, like, sort of, applebee type places. Seth okay, gotcha. [ light laughter ] they always had ferns. So we played a lot of those, but the truth is seth fern bars yeah. Thats what we called them. Seth okay. But the truth is that very early on we found a community of musicians like athens was rich with music and atlanta was rich with music and there was a lot of support in the communities. There was a lot like a real motley crew and Diverse Group of people, musicians who hung out together. So very early on when we started to play, we found a community. Then when we started to do small acts of activism like finding about a local, like womens shelter or women and childrens center, we found, oh, lets just play music and raise awareness. A little bit of money. We never could raise very much at that point. And then give a voice to this place. And then once then we really started to find our community through our activism. Seth thats really great. You mentioned athens. And you went on tour early on with r. E. M. , which must have been some pretty big shows. And you guys were repaid the favor back to community. I know Brandi Carlile would go out on tour with you in the early days. Was that something was it nice to be able to, you know sort of, throw that ladder down to the next generation . I mean, its the way we were brought up. You know, like, we played during peoples breaks when we were kids and they let us have gigs with them. And then and its not just like were not like oh, let us help you up. Its more like, we find people that were just big fans of. We heard brandis music. We were like, shes amazing. You know, we had this band called the shadow boxers, three 5 human. Like i mean the list goes on. Weve had Lucy Wainwright roche was just touring with us. So its just people we really love their music and then sometimes its someone like brandi who becomes huge. Seth yeah. Thats really nice. Yeah. Seth did you going back and looking both at archival footage and looking at early songs you wrote before maybe even before you recorded your first album, was there anything you found cringey to read . [ light laughter ] i think you know when you think about young people writing, thats often can be like, oh, son of a gun. [ laughter ] there are songs that well never play again. I mean, theyre so cringey. And then there i mean, i even can think of a song that we still play where i actually changed the lyric because i couldnt stand it anymore. [ laughter ] it was so terrible. Seth and do you does the audience know. Are they singing along and theyre like, woah, woah, woah . Well, because were very transparent, ill say, like, guys im going to change the lyric right now, so youre going to notice it if you know the song. And then its like that seth gotcha. And do you, be honest do you feel like when they hear the change, theyre like, oh, thank god she changed it. [ laughter ] probably. Seth yeah, okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Nobody is like purist, theyre like, woah, this is way better. Yeah, yeah. Like, what took you so long . [ light laughter ] seth it also seems like you have an incredible wealth of photos, old photos. Was this something you guys were doing maybe more than another young band was doing at the time. Were you aware . Or did you just like the idea of capturing what you were going through . For me, i mean my dad was an archivist, like a hoarder of like film and photography. He had a dark room and i learned a lot about photography and film from him. I was obsessed with doing that just for us, just for me, just for us. And then when he passed on, my mom handed me a bunch of boxes of things. And it was, like, a plethora of videotapes. And then fans would send us stuff. And i just kept everything. You know, and then sony had some great archives of our stuff. So its and emily and russell, our manager. Adrian, his son, everybody worked together and we just yeah, we had a lot of stuff. I took pictures a lot. Seth you mentioned you started playing together in high school. Metten Elementary School. Yeah. Yeah. Seth this is a real, be nice you know, if any Elementary School kids are watching. [ laughter ] you never know who your careerspanning partner will be. I mean, that is true. Seth do you have any memory of the day you met or do you just, kind of, remember the era you met . I had this little band called the blue skies. We were in seventh grade, i guess. I was aware of amy because she was that other girl who played guitar in Elementary School. Seth yeah. But i dont remember the moment or the first time. Because we really didnt become, like pals until we went to high school together, which started at eighth grade where we were. Seth okay. And we joined the chorus and then we became like really like best friends and then that, all the playing together and learning songs and our a. P. English teacher, ellis lloyd, who supported us, it all sprung out of that. Seth wow. I do remember seeing her in the cafeteria with the blue skies. Across at a table or something. I just have this memory of seeing her singing and thinking, like, so much more than i can do right now. Im going to do learn how to do that. Seth i i mostly im just like, i cant believe i didnt go to that high school. [ laughter ] like i never walked in the cafeteria and was like, is that the blue skies . [ laughter ] im so glad you guys are going to stick around and do some music for us as well. [ cheers and applause ] amy ray, Emily Saliers, everybody. Indigo girls its only life after all is on demand right now. Well be right back with a performance from the indigo girls. [ cheers and applause ] indigo girls. [ cheers and applause ] nlocal intel. Just you wait. marci right. So, tell us about this corn festival . stylist 1 oooh you got your corn pudding. You got your corn chowder. marci so. 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[ cheers and applause ] who are you when you are on your own all by yourself coming home do you take off the clothes that you wore to work peeling the paint from the wood do you dream in the dark of the roots and trees the scars and all the uncovering yeah whenever that shame tries to bury you i hope you will find your way through remember i am i am i am when the face on that moon is just a deadpan for your rhyming, when its just denying yeah we get to be what we wanna be when the sun in the morning is just a reason to keep on sleeping when youre just breaking even yeah we get to be what we wanna be youre more than the worst thing youve ever done youre more than the worst thing youve ever known ill tell you mine and you tell me yours and we will know we are more and remember when you feel you go astray who made the rules for us anyway yeah we get to be what we wanna be when the face on that moon is just a deadpan for your rhyming, when its just denying yeah we get to be what we wanna be when the sun in the morning is just a reason to keep on sleeping when youre just breaking even yeah we get to be what we wanna be all i know, yeah all i know when i let go of all this woe youll be my valentine of sorts ill be loves echo and reports together well dance under that turning sky like tumbling bats as the stars arrive and the face on that moon is gonna laugh and swoon and flightless birds will find their groove cause we get to be what we wanna be yeah we get to be what we wanna be when the sun in the morning is just a reason to keep on sleeping, when youre just breaking even remember i am i am i am yeah we get to be what we wanna be hey its good to be you and its good to be me [ cheers and applause ] seth indigo girls everyone indigo girls its only life after all and glitter and doom are out now. 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