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Announcer tonight on late night with seth meyers mandy moore, chat and music from jeff tweedy, an allnew a closer look. Featuring the 8g band with fred armisen and now, Seth Meyers Seth good evening. Im seth meyers and this is late night. Hows everybody doing tonight . Thats great to hear get to the news. President elect joe bidens Transition Team announced today that he has selected longtime adviser and Foreign Policy veteran Antony Blinken as his secretary of state you know, i think im a little scarred, because my first thought was, which season of the apprentice was he on . President Trumps Campaign issued a Statement Last night distancing itself from lawyer Sidney Powell after shed repeatedly made unsupported claims of widespread voter fraud. Man, youve got to be pretty crazy if Rudy Guiliani thinks youre a liability sorry, ms. Powell, but youre a loose cannon now if youll excuse me, im late for a press conference where i say joe biden is the hamburglar. The Pharmaceutical Company astrazeneca announced that one of its coronavirus regimens is up to 90 effective. And it says something about how upsidedown 2020 is that were now all rooting for pharmaceutical Companies Come on, astrazeneca you can do this. Pfizer aint got nothing on you. But dont you give up, pfizer. Were counting on you, too. Today was Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumers 70th birthday. Or as they call it in the senate, barely legal. [ light laughter ] Infectious Disease expert doctor recent interview that santa claus is immune to the coronavirus. Oh, good for him, said an elf being forced to come into the workshop during an outbreak. The music store Guitar Center has announced that its filed for bankruptcy turns out a lot of men dont buy guitars when they cant hit on women anymore. And finally, adult video website pornhub has released a new line of holiday apparel, such as sweaters, scarves and you guessed it, one sock scollins and that was the monologue we got a great show for you tonight. You know her from this is us, and she has new holiday songs out now called how could this be christmas . Mandy moore will be here and, you know, back when i was an actor, mandy and i were in a movie together i played her agent if she can remember my characters name or even that i was in it, i will be shocked for the record, it was called american dreamz, and i played chet krogl true story, hugh grant was also in that movie, and i showed him a picture of us acting together in a scene and he had zero memory of it [ light laughter ] thats the kind of impact i make on a movie set plus, he is a grammy awardwinning musician and the frontman of wilco. His latest solo album love is the king, along with his book how to write one song, are out now. Back on the show to chat and perform for us, one of my favorites, jeff tweedy is here thrilled about that. But before we get to all of our guests, president elect joe biden is continuing with the transition and announcing cabinet picks. Meanwhile, outgoing president squatters rights fired one of his lawyers, after she claimed the election was rigged as part of a vast conspiracy involving the cia, the republican governor of georgia, and the former president of venezuela, who died seven years ago. For more on this, its time for a closer look. Seth you know, i hate to jump the gun here and prematurely call the election, but its starting to look like donald trump lost by a lot joe bidens popular vote lead is now over six million, and in total he has more votes than any president elect in history or, to put it another, i dont know, more fun way, more people came out to vote against donald trump than have ever come out to vote against any president ial candidate in the history of the United States and donald, if you ever get mad when you see president biden, know that it likely only happened because of you. Joe biden ran for president a bunch of times before this and, like, never finished in the top tier but against you, it turns out he was the Perfect Choice biden was like that weird kid in school that nobody hung out with because he smelled like garlic, and then a vampire attacked prom and everyone said, quick, get stinky kevin and hell never say it, but you know when biden told obama he was going to run for president again, obama must have thought, im sorry, you didnt think being my Vice President was the best job you were ever going to have you thought it was a steppingstone to bigger things . Thats like a walmart greeter getting hired and saying, one day im going to one this place. But thanks to donald trump, it happened because more people came out to vote against donald trump than have ever come out to vote against any president ial candidate in the history of the United States. And, sure, we all know that in the back of our minds, that millions of people did vote for donald trump, and that speaks to a great darkness we cannot fully handle but that thought isnt going to get you up and on the peloton in the morning, so lets just bookmark it. On top of bidens historic vote totals, georgia just certified its results after a vigorous hand recount, and the Trump Campaign lost a major court case in pennsylvania, where the judge, a republican member of the federalist society, did not hold back in his contempt for the Trump Legal Teams incompetence a federal judge in pennsylvania completely tearing apart the trump legal strategy that was spearheaded by Rudy Guiliani. The judge in this case, matthew brann, tearing apart the claims by the trump team that they wanted to invalidate the vote in pennsylvania and throw out nearly seven million votes the judge in this case saying this one might expect that, when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption. That has not happened. Instead, this court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. Seth thats about as harsh as it gets for a federal judge thats like hearing Paul Hollywood say underbaked. Just devastating netflix should really put up a warning at the top of that show. I also like the part where the judge says youd expect the Trump Legal Team to come armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof. Judge, take a hint when they dont come in with briefcases. Lawyers normally have things with them, papers and such, called evidence. They have younger lawyers behind them with file boxes rudy and his greasers walk in with iphones and cliff bars and a thermos they all share they think this is a High School Forensics Team Competition where the kid with the weirdest adult energy wins by talking longest why would you expect this crew to roll in with proof . Its like expecting my burnout cousin to come to thanksgiving on time with sweet potatoes. You know hes gonna show up at 10 00 pm with meth and a woman he met at a casino hey, this is sapphire, and shes gonna be a stripper magician show em your stuff, babe by the way, i dont want to know how rudy and his gang keep Getting Court dates to even bring this to a judge. Theyve had multiple days in court and the election was, what, three weeks ago . Do you know how long it takes for regular people to get a court date in 2017 i was driving a zip car in manhattan my dog frisbee jumped in the front seat and started scanning radio stations and i was startled and i swerved into a halal cart near the curb. It was the most yelling ever heard in new york city the halal vendor sued me, zip car countersued both me and the halal guy. Meanwhile, frisbee is suing Sirius Satellite Radio for changing 40s on 4 to channel 73, the confusion that started this whole debacle this happened three years ago, and we have a hearing scheduled for 2025, and that was only because i pulled some strings. Anyway, i think i was talking about something. Oh, right. And now, prominent republicans, such as the governors of arkansas and ohio, and michican congressman fred upton and pennsylvania senator pat toomey are calling joe biden the president elect and saying the transition should begin. Even longtime trump friend and ally Chris Christie had this to say about the Trump Legal Teams efforts to overturn the election ive been a supporter of the president s. I voted for him twice. But elections have consequences, and we cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didnt happen. Quite frankly, the conduct of the president s legal team has been a National Embarrassment. They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom, they dont plead fraud and they dont argue fraud. If youre unwilling to come forward and present the evidence, it must mean the evidence doesnt exist seth you know its bad when Chris Christie, whose main job for years was standing behind trump at press conferences like bobby baccala waiting for his next humiliating errand, calls you a National Embarrassment but christies other point is important, too trumps lawyers only claim theres fraud when theyre outside the courtroom, never when theyre inside the courtroom, because court is different from tv. In court, you get in real trouble for lying, but when theyre in front of tv cameras, you hear all of these Trump Lawyers say crazy, ambiguous, debunked stuff about dead voters, and Election Software and affidavits or whatever in fact, in that very hearing Rudy Guiliani ultimately lost, he seemed confused about basic legal terms like strict scrutiny, and admitted in court that the campaign was not actually alleging that fraud had taken place. Which, it should be noted, is like saying in a murder trial, hi, im the alleged victim and im still alive. Prosecutor, review should i apply in this case a motion to dismiss well, i mean, i think the normal one. Are you arguing then that strict scrutiny should apply here no, the normal scrutiny should apply here. If we had alleged fraud, yes but this is not a fraud case seth actually it is a fraud case, in the sense that its a case brought by frauds like when someone bring a guitar case, they are also probably a fraud. If this wasnt a fraud case, then whats was it you guys keep saying theres voter fraud in public but then not arguing theres voter fraud in court its like how you say in front of your kids, better be good this year or santa a might not come. And then at 3 00 a. M. , youre on the floor in your living room drinking scotch trying to tie a bow around a light saber, screaming, [ bleep ] paper keeps ripping oh hey, why dont we just have it, like, peeking out from behind the couch . Just like a little piece of light sa all right ill wrap it i just think it would the thing is they get it as a gift okay in fact they havent alleged any actual voter fraud at all because it doesnt exist instead they resorted to bat [ bleep ] crazy conspiracy theories about Election Software and International Communists and you know, one thing im definitely not going to miss about the trump era is the mad lib style news reporting every time you hear about something the trump team said its like an old Dennis Miller joke from the 80s brian kemp and hugo chavez are teaming up to steal this election like kitty and Peter Carruthers going for the gold in sarajevo kay, babe . [ laughter ] another thing i wont miss is trying to follow the rotating cast of fringe rightwing weirdos that come in and out of the trump world. Like, do you remember this guy, Joseph Digenova . The trump lawyer and right wing lunatic who looks like he got busted for trying to sneak his own pasta sauce on to a pan am flight what you guys got is no better than ketchup he basically got banned he got banned from fox news for antisemitism. Thats like getting kicked off bravo for drinking wine in a hot tub. Digenova was briefly one of trumps lawyers during the Mueller Investigation and then got dumped like a week later, even though hes the only question hes ever he answered is, what if dennis franz wasnt so sexy . He was standing alongside Rudy Guiliani at that Insane Press Conference they held last week where rudy reenacted a scene from my cousin vinny, called the Philadelphia Eagles a basketball team, and had what looked like droplets of cerebrospinal fluid leaking from his brain. I guess rudy dyed his hair frantically in a gas station bathroom like Richard Kimball in the fugitive. I mean, if i saw that coming out of my radiator i would be pounding on my supers door. Anyway, these are the only people trump has left, because no legitimate lawyer wants to be a part of this unhinged assault on american democracy. In fact, last week the Trump Legal Team tried to delay that hearing in federal court to overturn the election because in pennsylvania, as reuters reported, most of his lawyers quit at this point the Trump Legal Team is like cvs at midnight sure, theyre open, but nobody actually works there and trump is like the guy trying to pay for arizona iced tea at the photo station register, who will wait for eternity and doesnt seem to mind but by far the craziest addition to the trump cinematic universe, has been a lawyer named Sidney Powell. And if you thought rudy was bonkers, this lady is crazier than a cereal mascot she was also at the Trump Campaigns press Conference Last Week and has been all over rightring media claiming not just that the election was rigged, but that millions of ballots were somehow faked or stolen, or whatever, as part of an elaborate conspiracy involving the republican governor of georgia, the cia, and the late venezuelan leader hugo chavez, who died in 2013. Until now, powell might have been best known for playing the uptight teacher in every heavy metal video, or for going on lou dobbs show and making claims about despeate migrants fleeing poverty and violence that were too insane even for lou dobbs. We simply cannot tolerate the continued invasion of this country when americans are suffering every day, the National Debt is exploding we have diseases spreading across the country that are causing poliolike paralysis of our children its one thing after the other sidney, you cant very well blame that disease on Illegal Immigrants we dont know the cause of it. I dont know that thats i dont think thats fair. A lot of, you know but there are plenty of reasons to keep this country secure, including including making sure that everyone is healthy when they are brought in to the country, without question right . Is that fair that is fair, but that is part of the problem we dont know where the diseases are coming from. Well, thats you know what i think that with that were going to leave it. Seth its always fascinating to watch these people have a brief moment of selfawareness youd think after that interview lou dobbs would have maybe, i dont know, pulled it back a little its like when youre at a party and everyones feeling good, then it gets late and someone says, lets get on the roof and jump in the pool and everybody else says, yeah but then you remember the apartment is 12 stories high, and theres not a pool, so you quietly sneak out the back but then, the next night, theyre like, were having another party and youre like, all right. Anyway, thats a psycho who showed up to the official Trump Legal Teams press conference on thursday and claimed not just that mailin ballots were fraudulent or that dead people had voted, but that there was a vast International Communist conspiracy involving a dead venezuelan leader to subvert the election what we are really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through venezuela, cuba, and likely china, in the interference with our elections here in the United States the dominion voting systems, the Smartmatic Technology software, and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well not just dominion were created in venezuela at the direction of hugo chavez. Seth you know, she doesnt make a lot of sense, but at least she has the same voice as an orphanage headmistress whose catch phrase is, you aint never getting adopted. Still nice to know that dead people who are voting are hugo chavez . Who else voted in this election . Boutros boutrosghali . So powell alleged a vast conspiracy involving hugo chavez to help joe biden win the president ial election, and yet curiously, she kept refusing to provide evidence of this vast scheme when pressed, even by friendly fox news hosts who were basically desperate to agree with her, as long as she could provide a shred of evidence. So sidney, you feel that you will be able to prove this do you have the software in your possession, do you have the hardware in your possession . How will you prove this, sidney . Well, ive got lots of ways to prove it, maria. But im not going to tell on national tv what all we have so we invited Sidney Powell on the show. We would have given her the whole hour we would have given her the entire week, actually, and listened quietly the whole time at rapt attention. Thats a big story but she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests. Not a page when we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her seth wow, you know youre in full loony territory when even Tucker Carlson wont go along with what youre selling he was begging her to come on his show good lord, its easy to get on television these days. Unhinged people used to have to stand behind a reporter on location and jump up and down yelling, baba booey. Anyway, the point is Sidney Powell was somehow even too insane for the Trump Legal Team, which, by the way, repeatedly told everyone they considered her a member of that legal team they tweeted many times that she was working with rudy in an official capacity for the Trump Campaign the official gop account tweeted out a clip of her remarks, and she appeared at the official Campaign Conference on thursday. But i guess she went too far even for trump over the weekend, when she went on the far right newsmax channel and claimed that the republican governors georgia, a staunch trump ally, was somehow part of the plot, along with hugo chavez and also the cia. Georgias probably going to be the first state im going to blow up, and mr. Kemp and the secretary of state need to go with it, because theyre in on the dominion scam, with their lastminute purchase, reward of a contract to dominion of 100 million. The state bureau of investigation for georgia ought to be looking into financial benefits received by mr. Kemp and the secretary of states family about that time and another benefit dominion was created to reward is what i would call election insurance. Thats why hugo chavez had it created in the first place but i also wonder where he got the technology, where it actually came from because i think its hammer and score card from the cia. Can you tell us anything . Can you make some news with us here tonight tell us anything new that youre going to present in that filing in georgia well, i cant say that yet. But hopefully this week we will get it ready to file sidney, whats it will be biblical seth okay, wow so the governor of georgia is being bribed by an Election Software Company Created by hugo chavez as part of a vast plot involving the cia to spread communism across the globe because first of all, the cia loves helping out communists we all remember when the cia helped install fidel castro in the famously successful bay of pigs invasion. Second of all wait, why am i saying second . Why am i breaking this down pointbypoint, like anyone watching this is still on the fence thinking, okay. All right, but what about your next point . And apparently im not the only one who feels this way, because the Trump Campaign issued a statement yesterday suddenly distancing itself from powell. Just over a week after President Trump named attorney Sidney Powell to his legal team in his effort to overturn results of the 2020 election, the president s legal team now says that Sidney Powell is not a member of his legal team Rudy Guiliani and jenna ellis, two of the attorneys for the president s effort, saying in a statement, quote, Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own she is not a member of the Trump Legal Team she is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity. Seth its both insane that theyre trying to pretend that she was never part of the legal team when she was literally standing at an official Trump Press Conference, and also believable that someone could wander into a Trump Press Conference and say theyre his lawyer i mean, she was identified on tv as his lawyer, so theres no getting out of that one. What about digenova . Id buy he heard there was a thing where you dont need a mask and showed up hey, brought my own sauce okay just if you need it. By the way, as a side note, you dont need to announce whos joining and leaving the legal team a lot of times people show up to court, and the lawyers are there, and then you know not everyone tweets ive retained januzzi and januzzi in my wrongful arrest for a dui look forward to pleading down to time served. Personally, im just diappointed because powell kept promising blockbuster evidence of fraud, and now i guess well never see it she even used an especially memorable phrase this looks like the effort to to carry out an endgame in the effort against him do you concur . Oh, absolutely. And its been organized and conducted with the help of Silicon Valley people. The big tech companies, the social Media Companies and even the Media Companies. And im going to release the kraken seth i guess the only crackin we ended up seeing was in Rudy Guilianis hair dye. They have no evidence, which is why lawyering keep quitting or getting fired or laughed out of court because this whole thing isnt actually about evidence. Its about manufacturing a Conspiracy Theory that will animate trumps base for years to come. Its just another scam, like trumps many previous scams. In terms of actual legal arguments, the trumps team case is deader than hugo chavez seth this has been a closer look. Well be right back with mandy moore. Announcer for more of seths closer looks, be sure to subscribe to late night on youtube. Go, subaru created the share the love event. Where our new owners could choose a national or hometown charity. And subaru and our retailers would proudly make a donation. But now, in times like these, companies are having a hard choice to make. But subaru is more than a car company. And as charities struggle, we cannot just stand by. Which is why we plan to donate over twenty four million dollars, again this year. 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Seth were so happy to have fred armisen back leading the 8g band this week. I hope youre checking out freds latest show moonbase 8 sundays on showtime. Give us a wave, fred and fred, i really do enjoy the show, but i also think you know the normal size of holdups here and i think its a little aggressive that you sent one this big for your show and i would just wonder if youd like to take a moment to explain that i see what youre doing, fred, and i dont really appreciate it our next guest tonight is emmy and golden globenominated actress for her work on nbcs this is us, which returns with new shows in january her new holiday songs released is a twotrack single, how could this be christmas, are available now. Please wcome back tohe s tw our friend mandyoore m hi, mandy. How are you . Im well. How are you . Seth im doing wonderfully this has been a weird time in between your visits to the show. The last time you were here was in september 2016. So you have waited for the entire Trump Presidency until you came back. I know i just completely, like, wanted to boycott the show, i guess, during the Trump Presidency. Seth you were like, i dont want to have any part of that. No. Seth its lovely to see you again and congratulations. Youre about to have a baby. How far along are you . I am seven months seth oh, my goodness yeah. Im getting getting towards the end here, but, thank you very much. Seth and youre having a boy, which i can tell you from experience is a wonderful thing. And i know when you were here, you know, we talked about how you watched youtube videos of people going through labor to have triplets, because of your show does that make it a little bit easier knowing that youre just going to have the one . Is that not normal . To watch youtube videos of people having triplets seth well, at least you had a reason it would be weird if you had no reason to do it. Yes ive tried to actually forget the trauma that i endured watching those videos, because some of them are just downright terrifying so, yes, im very grateful that im just having one child at a time seth you guys are back to filming again, and youve decided to sort of take headon the times were living in from things like the George Floyd Protests to living under quarantine is it surreal to be doing a show that is also, you know, art imitating life, i guess . I mean, i kind of would expect nothing less from this is us. Like, we are a modern show, and so much of our show sort of takes place in, you know, modern times. And so, it would feel weird, i think to leave such pressing issues unaddressed it certainly is weird because, yeah i mean, were living through covid, as everybody else is and were shooting in the midst of covid. And we have all of these, like, crazy covid protocols, which im sure you do as well at your show so its certainly strange to, like, have to initially, i think were sort of past this point now, but like as an actor when youre in a scene and youre looking all around you and the entire crew is not only in masks, but also in face shields and other ppe, to just sort of let that go and to kind of be in the moment it was definitely, you know, a bit strange at first, but now, it feels, it feels like, you know, second nature. Seth i also, i know early on obviously, in the first season of the show, you had to wear a fake pregnancy belly are you a little upset now that they have not written your real one into the show . I know. Its funny because the trajectory of our show is we sort of jump around all the time so i am constantly in fact, the very First Episode i was in we sort of like took it back to going to the hospital to give birth to the triplets that day. So i was in, like, the full, heavy, like, eightmonth prosthetic triplet belly and boobs and like the whole thing and im like, geez, louise, could we not like postpone this for just a few more months and i could, you know, help out a little myself with my own body but, of course, i think, like, true to form by the time i am, like, waddling around at nine months pregnant, wed probably be shooting something where im supposed to be like 25 and getting married or something ridiculous. Seth right so, just just what i sort of, come to expect from this job. Seth so you decided to record a couple of holiday songs. How did this come about . The decision to want to do this . So i put out a record called silver landings earlier this year and we were literally four days from going on the road. My first time touring in 13 years and covid hit and obviously, the world sort of had to shift and so, ive been home with my husband, obviously, like most people quarantining for the last eight or nine months and a couple months ago, it just sort of struck me that in order to expend sort of this like pent up creative energy, it might be fun to not only record a cover of like a classic christmas song, but then, try our hand at writing one, and i think how could this be christmas was the original that we wrote, and its sort of really reflects on, like, this very specific and strange holiday that were all going to be living through and sort of rooted in the idea that, really, its about togetherness and connection and thats something that is going to look a little different this year you know seth when you decided a cover, like, did you have a lot of choices in front of you or was it obvious [ laughter ] sure. You know, considering that we were going to acknowledge what this holiday was, specifically in 2020 with how could this be christmas, we thought it would be like a perfect book end to the most wonderful time of the year. Like by Andy Williams just, i mean, i felt it covered like the spectrum of emotions that wre ae going to be feeling during t holheays. Seth i feel like everyone will slowly be rotating back and fortbetween those two of, this is the most wonderful time of the year. Oh, my god this is hell i dont care how many ornaments are on a tree. I mentioned, in the tease, you probably werent on yet, but we were in a film together. You remember the name of the film, right . American dreamz, yeah seth yeah, well guess what hugh grant was on the show and he had no memory that he ever worked with me oh, that is so deflating and disappointing. [ laughter ] but i guarantee, by the way, he probably has no idea that he worked with me either. Seth no. When i told him the name of it, hes like, oh, with mandy moore. She was wonderful. [ laughter ] no, really . Seth no, but still yeah, see exactly. I swear, i crossed paths with him at an award shows, i was like, hi, and he looked at me like i had four heads. Seth wow hes a lovely man, but you know, he does a ton of movies. I dont know, but i will never forget i had the best time with you seth we had a great time i came out of that project going, like, seth meyers is probably the funniest person id ever met in my life. Seth right you were like, not the best actor [ laughter ] like, i wouldnt be surprised if this was one of his last movies. [ laughter ] mandy, i have great memories of that and it is always just so lovely to see you. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you for having me good to see you. Seth her new holiday music, how could this be christmas, is available now well be right back with jeff tweedy. D along the way, we noticed something was missing. 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As you know, im a longtime fan of yours and of wilco and i had this great honor you asked a bunch of friends of yours to be in the video for your new song, gwendolyn, and i was lucky enough to be one of those people how did you come up with this idea here i am, its basically the bottom half of my face, top half of yours how did you come up with the idea i saw a post on social media from steve martin, where he was joking that nobody something was weirding a guy out in public, so he made a sign to wear over his head that said, this is steve martin. And it made me think that i have a lot of friends that are sort of celebrities, and and they dont get to use that part of their face very much anymore so i thought maybe i could take advantage of that and get everybody to donate their face to my video. Plus, just masks just work really well as a green screen. So i just thought id take advantage of our moment in that way. Seth well, i really appreciate being a part of that moment you recorded this album with your family, and i imagine at this point wilco must feel like family when you record songs, but it must also still be so different to do with your actual family. Whats that like its playing music with your family is just the most amazing gift i can, i can ever imagine being given. Its you know, music relies upon trust and, you know, just faith that youre going to be there in a supportive role for each other, and musicians work long i dont know they work for a long time usually. A band has to be together for years to develop all of those types of trusts. And a family just kind of has it as a as a starting point, a base you know, level of trust that is, i dont know. It just feels like you just have so much more room to get intimate from there. So its its the best thing i can think of to do seth hey, congrats on the book this is basically, youre trying to give people advice on how to write one song, and one of the things that you sort of stress is how important it is to to let inspiration in to invite it in. Can you explain that a little bit . Well, everybody i think, imagines that artistic processes require like a bolt of lightning, an inspiration. And that my argument is that nobody that, nobodys just walking down the street and has no intention to write a song is going to get hit by a bolt of lightning and decide to write a song you basically have to put yourself in the path of that kind of inspiration, and i think you do that by just working at it when youre not inspired. Working at it as a daily you know just a practice that you have a habit that you have. To remind yourself to just kind of be open to things, and then it happens all the time. It tends to happen almost every every day for me that i get a little bit inspired and sometimes i get a lot inspired, but it wouldnt happen at all if i didnt pick up the pencil or pick up a guitar, and thats thats what i just think everybody should do. Seth you mentioned its important to, you know, build it as a skill and make it work and sit down and do it with that said, are there still times, and when you think of a lyric and you just know right away, oh, thats really thats really good [ laughter ] sometimes, yeah i was driving on, out on the toll way the other day, and there was a hearse stuck at a toll plaza like, the guy driving the hearse didnt have change and he didnt have an ezpass or anything like that and i just felt i was hit over the head with the worlds greatest metaphor. [ laughter ] and i i sang it into my phone. Before i even pulled over. You know seth well, a classic case of someone elses loss is your gain [ laughter ] like what a way to go seth hey, one of the things thats always fascinating to me about the grammys more than any other awards show is just the breadth of the kind of artists you have at a grammys versus, you know, just different kind of actors or, you know, a comic and dramatic actor your first grammys is a perfect example of this. Some of the people you bumped into yeah. I think my most notable encounter was i was with a big group of people, the wilco guys, and wives and girlfriends, and somehow i ended up outside one of the bathrooms at the Staples Center holding everyones program for the grammys. I just had a stack of, of grammy programs, and p diddy walked up to me, and he thought i was an usher handing out programs he tapped the programs in my, that i was holding with a cane [ laughter ] he said, give me one of those. I said, no. Theyre mine. It didnt it didnt become it didnt escalate, thank goodness but i was also mistaken, every time ive ever gone to the grammys, ive been mistaken for a seat filler. [ laughter ] go get out seth what i like to think is that p diddy thought you were handing out programs and also recognized you and then said, you know that lead singer of wilco is also an usher. [ laughter ] yeah, that would have been just as plausible. Seth hey, thank you so much for being here thanks for sticking around to do some music for us. And congratulations on the book. My pleasure great to see you again seth great to see you, too how to write one song and love is the king are both out now. Jeff will be performing a song off his new album after the break. Well be right back. Ok. Lets see what youve got, oculus. Dont look down, dont look down ooh. Shouldnt have looked downnn whoo its ok. Im ok. Lets go. Hey. How do i. . Relax. Get into it yeah ive got it whoa. Rated e for everyone. Pizza. Tacos. 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I dont think i can tak another da oh i dont kno how i could ever say im okay being so far awa oh i dont think that i can take another da and gwendolyn when she starts to spea to a county police with a plastic cup between her teeth the sun beating dow like a big trombon thats right when i start missing home she holds my hand between her knee its like a drea i never know what it means i only know im feeling alon thats right when i start missing home honestly gwen im not ashamed to say between you and me im relieved they put you away sun coming u like a piece of toas thats right when i started heading hom thats right whe i started heading home thats right whe i started heading home well thats right when i started heading home seth my thanks to jeff tweedy. His album love is the king is out now. Well be right back. Give you my world. How can i, when you wont take it from me. You can go your own way. Xfinity mobiles fast nationwide 5g network meets the first iphone with 5g. 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