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The office of speaker of the house is hereby declared vacant. George speaker Kevin Mccarthy ousted. The conservative agenda was being paralyzed. These eight individuals torpedoed the conference. George can the party unite behind another leader . We need to resolve our differences inside this house chamber. I think im better equipped to unite the conference. George well get the latest from rachel scott on capitol hill, plus ken buck and pete aguilar. And while the ashes may have settled, our hearts still ache. George two months after the west maui fires, mola lenghi reports on the return of tourists and the lahaina residents pushing back. George good morning, and welcome to this week. Allout war has broken out in the middle east and all signs point to a long and bloody war. It began with a surprise attack to hamas. It came by land, sea, and air with paragliders, speedboats, motorcycles and rockets. Hundreds have been killed. Hostages have been taken. Its being called a 9 11 moment for israel, and Prime Minister netanyahu promises that they will retaliate with a might and scale the enemy has not yet known. Tanks are rolling towards the border. The shock waves are spreading across the region and the world. Foreign correspondent James Longman starts us off from tel aviv. Good morning, james. Reporter yeah, good morning, george. Im at a strike site in central tel aviv. You can see this building entirely destroyed. The cleanup operation has started. Cars all along this street destroyed as well. This doesnt happen in an area like this. People are in shock. They should be enjoying their weekend. Instead this is a country at war because the fighting is continuing in six locations along the border with gaza where hamas militants infiltrated, and the images are truly shocking. Taking them by surprise, killing them on the spot where they found them. We now understand at least 500 israelis have been killed and as many as 2,000 injured. Hostage situations are also ongoing both here in israel and in the gaza strip. Hamas says theyve taken dozens of hostages, men, women, children, and the elderly, and that is going to further complicate israels response. Yes, weve seen air strikes overnight as many as 250 palestinians dead, but will israel send in Ground Troops . Weve seen them amassing on the border with gaza, and what will that do to the region . Weve already heard this morning of an altercation between hezbollah and israel from lebanon, and so there is deep concern about regional security, but make no mistake. This is the beginning of israels wider response, george. George and james, you talk about the shock right there. Some even calling this worse than the attack in 1973, the start of the yom kippur war. Reporter yeah, george. Its extraordinary. I have been to this country already this year just four times for various different terrorist attacks and incidents. Theres a level of kind of resolution that israelis have come sadly to expect, terror incidents in their country. This is completely different. Terror, shock, desperation, and seeing image of women and elderly people being transported on motor bikes and in cars over into gaza. They want a resolution quickly, but that doesnt happen overnight anywhere in this region and certainly wont in this situation, george. George thanks very much. Lets bring in steve ganyard. The big question, how could this happen . What a massive intelligence fail year. Yeah, and george, theres a saying. Complacency kills and certainly complacency was part of this huge intelligence failure, but theres also a deeper systemic failure that the israelis will have to figure out. The 73 war was the only other war where they had this sort of failure, but that was very different. It was nation states, israel and egypt and it was force on force. This is hamas and hamas working in small groups, using personal encrypted communications, infiltrating into israel. So very different kind of failure, but a failure that is inexcusable nonetheless. George weve only seen the beginning so far of the israeli response. All but certain to go into gaza with Ground Forces . Yeah. Netanyahus going to have to go into gaza, but hamas knew this, and so hamas has likely beefed up its internal defenses because urban warfare is particularly horrible. Think about bakhmut or even when israel went into beirut. Its very, very difficult, and so this phase one will be much less bloody. The phase two when israel has to go into gaza will be much bloodier for israel. George but steve what makes it for complicated is that israeli hostages are being held inside gaza right now and israel hasnt wanted to go into gaza for more than a decade because its so difficult to control. Exactly. So netanyahu has some very difficult choices to make. Does he go all the way into gaza and retake all of gaza . Very bloody, very long, very expensive, or does he go and do something punitive . Very tough choices and none of them are good. George meantime, we know the United States has been trying to broker a peace deal between saudi arabia and israel. Is that dead . It is dead for now, but this the brilliant on its die boll ball, but its brilliant on irans part. They used hamas as its proxy. They go in knowing that u. S. And Saudi Arabian talks are going well. Thats to show a united front against iran, and iran uses its proxy of hamas knowing that only hamas will pay the price. George steve ganyard, thanks very much. Lets go to secretary blinken. Thank you for joining us this morning. I know you have been working through the day and through the weekend. What is the United States doing right now . What comes next . Well, george, first to put this in perspective and as some of your correspondents just said, this is the worst attack on israel since 1973, the yom kippur war almost exactly 60 years ago. There was a fundamental difference. That was state to state, country to country, army to army. This is a massive terrorist attack that is gunning down israeli civilians in their towns, in their homes and as weve seen so graphically, lit i dragging people across the border with gaza, including a holocaust survivor in a wheelchair, women and children. So you can imagine the impact this is having throughout israel and the world should be revolted at what its seen. We have immediately engaged our israeli partners and allies. President biden was on the phone with Prime Minister netanyahu yesterday to assure him of our full support. I was on the phone with the israeli president , the foreign minister. The entire government has engaged early on to make sure to build support for israel and make sure every country uses whatever means it has and whatever influence it has to pull hamas back and also to make sure we dont see conflict erupt in other areas. The president sent a very clear message that no one should try to take advantage of this elsewhere. George how do you explain this intelligence failure, especially especially on the anniversary of the yom kippur war . George, there will be time to look at that, and to make determinations about what may have been missed, and right now the focus has to be on the effort to get to repel the aggression by the Hamas Terrorists, to push them back, and to put israel in a position where this doesnt happen again. George but there are implications for the United States as well, of course. We rely on Israeli Intelligence, dont we . We have a very close relationship with Israeli Intelligence as well as with the israeli military, as well as with israel more broadly, so yes, of course, this is something they and we will be looking at, but the effort right now has to be in dealing with the aggression from hamas with these attacks. There remains intense fighting around gaza. We continue to see that, and the rest of the country right now seems to be calmer, but the intensity of the fighting is real, and we had about 1,000 hamas militants who infiltrated israel. Most of them seem to have been killed or have gone back into gaza, but as i said, intense fighting remains, and thats also the focus. The focus is also taking steps to make sure to the best of their ability for israel this doesnt repeat itself. George can israel control gaza if they go in . Look. I dont want to get ahead of what israel may or may not do when it comes to gaza. What they need to be able to control one way or another is as i said, putting in place measures so this doesnt happen again. No country should be expected to live with the fear, the possibility, and now the actuality of terrorists crossing a border, coming into peoples homes, gunning them down in the street, dragging them across the border, and making hostages of them. That is intolerable for any democracy. Its intolerable for israel, and one way or another, theyre going to have to take steps to make sure to the best of their ability this doesnt repeat itself. George as i discussed with steve ganyard, there were negotiations between saudi arabia and israel. What happens to that now . George, its no surprise that those opposed to the efforts to normalize relations with countries throughout the region and beyond, who opposes it . Hezbollah, hamas, and iran. To the extent this was designed to control the efforts that were being made, that speaks volumes. Now we have to deal with this attack, deal with hamas, and well come to the normalization efforts which by the way are incredibly difficult when it comes to saudi arabia and is israel. Lots of hard issues to work through, but if we could get there, that would significantly advance stability in the region. It would offer so many greater prospects for people in all of these countries, and theyre basically two paths that are before the region right now. One is the path of normalization, of integration, of people working together, and by the way, in that and on that path, its not a substitute for resolving the differences between israelis and palestinians. On the contrary, it needs to be used to advance that effort as well. Thats one path. The other is what weve seen from hamas, terrorism, horror, and something that offers not only nothing to people throughout the region. It offers nothing to the palestinians. On the contrary, everything that hamas does makes their situation, their plight even worse. They bring nothing but death and destruction not only to israelis, but to palestinians. So the paths are clear. We know which path we want to follow. Were determined to do, that but right now the focus has to be on helping israelis as it defends itself against this terrorist attack. George does dealing with hamas mean dealing with iran . Was iran behind this . So theres a long relationship between iran and hamas. In fact, hamas wouldnt be hamas without the support its gotten over the many years from iran. We havent seen direct evidence that iran was behind this particular attack or involved, but the support over many years is clear. Its one of the reasons that over the last couple of years we have been resolutely working against irans support for terrorism, for destabilizing actions in other countries. Weve sanctioned more than 400 iranian individuals and entities precisely for the kind of support theyve offered hamas in the past, and its something weve remained extremely vigilant about. George many are laying blame on the Biden Administration in the wake of the deal to unfreeze iranian assets that were unfrozen for humanitarian purposes in return for the release of those american hostages. Heres what Steve Scalise, one of the candidates for speaker put out yesterday. The Biden Administration must be held accountable for the appeasement of these Hamas Terrorists including handling over billions of dollars to them and their iranian backers. Your response . Im not going to comment on specific comments, but i can say this. Its unfortunate that some are in effect saying things that may be motivated by politics at a time when so many lives have been lost and israel remains under attack, and the facts are these. They should be well known. This involved iranian resources, not american taxpayer dollars. These were resources that iran had acquired from the sale of its oil that were stuck in a bank. In this case in south korea. They have always been entitled to use those funds under our law and our sanctions for humanitarian purposes, and the funds were moved from one bank to another to facilitate that. By the way, not a single dollar from that account has actually been spent to date, and in any event, its very carefully and closely regulated by the Treasury Department to make sure its only used for food, for medical equipment. So some who are advancing this false narrative, theyre either misinformed or theyre misinforming and either way its wrong. George are we in for a long war . The challenge for israel and the challenge for all who support israel and oppose horrific acts of terrorism is again, to take measures that provide for accountability for whats happened and also to do our best to ensure that this doesnt happen again, and that is likely to take some time, and its fraught with very difficult decisions for the israelis to make. I dont want to speculate, get ahead, get into hypotheticals, but this is now were 24 hours or so into this. As i said, there remains intense fighting in the gaza area, and the focus has to be on helping israel recover the territory that has been taken briefly by hamas, protecting its citizens, and taking whatever measures are necessary to avoid this repeating itself. George mr. Secretary, thanks for your time this morning. Thanks, george. George lets get a gop response now from president ial candidate Chris Christie. Chris, thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you. George if you were in the oval office, what would you be doing . What i would be doing is making sure one, that israel has everything that it needs to be able to take whatever actions it needs to take, and this is the problem with not having a speaker right now, george, and the actions taken by some members of my party were wholly irresponsible without this going on. Theyre now even putting a brighter light on the irresponsibility of not having someone in place, but first make sure they have everything they need. Second to be talking to our allies in the region, and trying to make sure that this doesnt escalate. Youve got to be talking to the saudis, and to others to make sure jordanians that we make sure we keep things contained in that area, and three, then speaking to the Prime Minister netanyahu and making sure that youre a sounding board for him to think through the ramifications of every step theyre going to take to defend themselves, and to try to do the best they can to eliminate the leadership of hamas has made the decision to do something as horrific as what was done this week. George you mentioned the gop dysfunction in the house right now, getting rid of Speaker Mccarthy. I want to talk about, that but first, your campaign. You have been the most openly critical of donald trump, and nothing you or the other candidates are doing seems to be putting a dent in his lead and he seems to be calling all the shots right now including in that House Speaker situation. Look. This is the problem. Theres always been when you look at it though, george, its a very small element of the members of the house who made this happen. You have eight members who made it happen, and i dont know what Donald Trumps influence was or wasnt over them, but in the end, those eight members are the ones who are responsible. On the larger question, look. I think there is progress being made in places like New Hampshire for certain against donald trump, and theres been polling thats indicated that in the last week or so. This is going to take some time. Its patience and persistence to put forward the message that he cannot win a general election. He doesnt deserve to be the nominee of this party based upon his conduct in office, and his conduct after office, and, you know, im making that argument all over the country, but particularly in New Hampshire and south carolina, and im hearing people respond to it, but were not going to see it show up in polls until much later i suspect, if not, as late as election night. George is it going to show up in polls as long as hes not in the debate, as long as he has this stranglehold over the Republican Base . You even see these House Republicans say they want him to be speaker even by their own rules, someone whos indicted cant be speaker. This is them knowing what he likes. Which is kiss his rear end in public. If you do that, you he says nice things about you, even if what youre saying is demonstrably untrue, right . Thats part of the problem with this, but you talk about the stranglehold. It manifested itself this week. Ramaswamy and i, where we would have had 40 minutes of air time, the rnc prevented us from doing it because they dont want to have more pressure put on donald trump or anybody else to be speaking out. More information is better than less, and by trying to restrict how much we can interact with each other, just only on those debate stages, i think its a mistake for the party near term and long term to do that, and i expressed that to Ronna Mcdaniel when we had our conversation earlier this week, but let me be clear, george. She made it clear to me if i did that conversation i would be banned from future debates by the rnc. George we dont know how long it will take to find a new speaker of the house. Do you have a favorite candidate . I dont have a favorite. I dont know jim jordan well at all, so i cant really speak to him expect for what i see publicly. I know Steve Scalise and i like Steve Scalise, and i respect him, but i wont weigh in and endorse somebody, but i know steve and i think hes a responsible and good guy. George if this continues to go and donald trump gets the nomination, you said he cant win. Any doubt about that . None in my mind, george. To get back to your other question, i believe hell show up at the debates. I think it will happen at some point. I think when it gets narrower, but the rnc is trying to kick people off the stage too. They increased the number of donors you need by 40 between debate two and debate three, and, you know, let the voters make these decisions, george. Lets not have, you know, 1 donors be making these decisions, but speaking of them, go to chrischristie. Com and be a 1 donor, and ill stay on the stage, but the debate needs to be had, and donald trump needs to engage in the debate. If he doesnt, hes disrespectful to the people of our party and country, and were not going to know what were buying in this version of donald trump. I want to force him on that stage and challenge him. George Chris Christie, thanks very much. Round table is coming up, and House Speaker looking for a new speaker. Well speak with key members of both parties next. Embers of both parties next. Known as a passionate artist. Known for loving the outdoors. Known for getting everyone together. No one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. Keytruda is known to treat cancer. Fdaapproved for 16 types of cancer, including certain earlystage cancers. One of those cancers is triplenegative Breast Cancer. Keytruda may be used with chemotherapy medicines as treatment before surgery and then continued alone after surgery when you have earlystage Breast Cancer and are at high risk of it coming back. 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George jim jordan trying to become the speaker. The party is divided. Congress at a standstill, and first votes on finding a new speaker come this week. Senior Congressional Correspondent rachel scott is tracking it all. Reporter it was a moment never seen before in american history. The yeas are 216. The nays are 210. Reporter the house voting to remove its speaker. I fought for what i believe in, and i believe in this country of america. Reporter five days after a handful of rebel republicans turned against Kevin Mccarthy for working with democrats, the house is speakerless. The chamber now paralyzed. Weve got find someone and coalesce around that person and get work done. Reporter but republicans dont appear to be any close tore coalescing around any one person to become speaker. Our bench is deep. There are a lot of people that could serve very well in that position. Reporter two republicans are officially vying for votes, but so far no clear frontrunner has emerged. Steve scalise of indiana. I had a lot of really good conversations about how we keep focusing on the things we need to do to get our country back on track. Reporter but there are major questions about his health. Six years after being shot and seriously wounded at a congressional baseball practice, scalise is now undergoing aggressive treatment for blood cancer. He is a known survivor, and insists hes ready to take the gavel. My doctors looked and ben, its going phenomenally well. Reporter scalises main competition, jim jordan of ohio. The combative chairman of the house judiciary committee, jordan is one of the republicans leading the impeachment inquiry into President Biden, and hes the founder of the farright House Freedom caucus that often caused headaches for mccarthy. The conference. I have had a lot of people reach out to us and see if we could do it. Reporter hes running with the support of former president donald trump, but that may not be enough to push him across the finish line. Trump also endorsed mccarthy, and it still took 15 rounds for him to be elected as speaker. A drawn out battle that many republicans are hoping to avoid. We need to sort this out in the next few days, and rock and roll. Weve got a lot we need to do. Reporter House Republicans plan to meet behind closed doors tomorrow and again on tuesday with the hope of coalescing around one candidate by wednesday. The pressure is on the for the house to get back to business. The plan to fund the government is november 17th, that fight that could be a real test for the next speaker, george. George rachel scott, thanks very much. Were joined by ken buck. Thank you for joining us this morning. Do you have a candidate . I do not. I am not going to support anybody until the conference figures out spending. It was one of the issues with Kevin Mccarthy was there were a number of promises made. Weve got to come together over a spending number and then start looking at the candidate whos going to get us there. George how are you knock get agreement on that before you get agreement on a speaker . Isnt that what brought mccarthy down . No. I think what brought Kevin Mccarthy down first of all is he made a number of promises to a number of different groups and when the time came, the continuing resolution, he could not deliver on those promises and so we had 90 more than 90 republicans vote against his continuing resolution that he put on the floor. The speaker issue is going to be brought to conference. Were going to be able to have a family discussion. When we leave that family discussion, i believe were going to be united. I think its going to happen on wednesday or thursday of this week. George youre one of the many republicans who signed a letter calling for this conference to meet because youre requesting a rules change dealing with the election. What are you looking for . Im sorry. Rule change with what . George regarding the election of the speaker. You signed that letter i guess about 90 republicans signed it to elise stefanik. What are you looking for . Im looking for we make a decision inside the conference so we have 218 votes and dont go to the floor and have another 15round session of votes. I think its important we have these discussions and were honest with each other. We get behind one candidate and we stay behind that one candidate for the rest of this congress. George thats interesting. Youre saying you dont want to put a candidate up until all 218 republicans or at least a majority of the republican conference has already agreed on the candidate. That means this could play out for some time, doesnt it . Its better to play out in private where the cameras arent on and we dont have people trying to get attention over certain issues than it is going out on the floor and having a series of debates. For those folks that think we are projecting a chaotic image, it makes a lot more sense to do this behind closed doors and get it finished before we go to the floor. George its pretty clear that the democrats at least in the senate are not going to in the house and in the senate wont agree to the spending numbers youre talking about. Does that mean were heading to another Government Shutdown in about a month . No, i dont think so. I think what we need to do is come up with a good, responsible number, and make an argument for it and go into the senate negotiation conference with a compromise in mind, but we have to start where we believe the lowest possible number for discretionary spending. George what happens if the House Republicans cannot agree on a candidate by midweek . Well, then well agree on a candidate by the end of the week or well agree on a candidate over the weekend. I think we lock the doors and we have a very limited bathroom breaks and food breaks and make sure we get the job done. George your former colleague liz cheney has spoken out against jim jordan because of his involvement in january 6th. Heres what she said. Lets listen. Jim jordan was involved was part of the conspiracy in which donald trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election. George should that be a factor in this election . Well, both jim jordan and Steve Scalise voted to decertify the election. I dont think that will be a factor at all. I think the factor will be we continue to perpetuate a lie about the 2020 election being stolen, that we talk about the january 6th events as an unguided tour of the capitol, that we are pretending that the people who assaulted Police Officers and destroyed federal Government Property are political prisoners. That hurts our ability and credibility to move forward with the American People and tell the American People that we have a serious issue with spending. We as republicans can do a better job securing our border. We know how to deal with inflation. We can deal with the crime issue in our cities. Thats the problem we have when we continue to perpetuate the myths were perpetuating. George the man leading that effort and the most is of course, donald trump. You have dozens of your colleagues suggesting he should be speaker of the house right now. Thats not going to happen. George should it happen . No, it shouldnt happen, and, you know, we have a lot of talent inside the house. Well settle this inside the House Republican conference, and we will elect someone that will have the unity and the backing of the full conference. George will you support him for president of the United States . I will support the republican nominee for president of the United States because i am so concerned about what President Biden has been doing, and where the Democrat Party is taking this country. George even if he is convicted of one of the four felony hes been charged with . I have said i dont believe a convicted felon should be a president of the United States. So i believe that my fellow republicans will not elect a will not nominate a convicted felon for the position. We have a lot of good candidates running for speaker. I think theyve done great in the debates and i think that when it comes time for us to make that decision to elect a new president , we will not be electing a convicted felon. George ken buck, thanks very much for your time this morning. Were joined by pete aguilar. Congressman aguilar, thank you for joining us. This morning, you just heard ken buck right there say that he wants the republican conference to come to an agreement on spending before he elect a speaker. It sounds to me at least like that could take some time. Well, let me just first say tuesday was a sad day for the house of representatives. Clearly based on what ken buck said, its going to be some time, and i would just note that republicans and democrats did come together. Democrats providing a majority of votes, to avoid the debt limit that sets these spending levels. So i dont know what republicans are planning to do to revisit those spending levels that are now law. Democrats provided the votes to avoid the debt limit. Democrats provided the votes to pass the continuing resolution to fund government. Democrats are the ones leading here. This is a Republican House conference who has an inability to govern and to lead. Thats why were in this moment. Our constituents didnt send us here to vacate the chair. They sent us to washington, d. C. To work. Thats what House Democrats want to do. Thats what we look forward to doing. George but you heard ken buck right there say that even if the republicans agree to the spending bill, it wont lead to a Government Shutdown. Do you agree with that . Well, i think theres an element within the House Republican conference that is dead set on shutting down our government, to walking up to the breaching the debt limit or not funding government. There were many of them in the Public Domain who were cheering for us to shut down the government. Thats just terrible for the country. Its terrible for our governance, and it just shows an inability to lead among the House Republican conference. George given the fact there were so few House Republicans required to actually take down Speaker Mccarthy and you had just eight vote against him and it imperiled his speakership, what do you make of those critics who say democrats should have come together to save him, and be careful what you wish for now that hes gone . I dont buy that. For the good of the institution, this is someone, Kevin Mccarthy, who did not vote to certify the election. Kevin mccarthy walked away from a deal that he negotiated with President Biden. This is somebody who has an inability to govern and to lead his conference. I dont i dont buy that, that for the good of the institution because this is someone who just didnt have the credibility to show that he put the institution first. He would not work even until the bitter end, hours before the vote, he said that he wasnt going to ask for democratic votes and by the way, i would just say 220 republicans enabled Kevin Mccarthy because theyre the ones who changed their rules and they changed threshold so one person could topple the speaker. He negotiated that change and he got 220 republicans to go along with it to start the year. George we heard ken buck say, whoevers going to win has to get the support of 220 republicans this time around. What difference will it be whether its Steve Scalise or jim jordan . Well, thats something for the republican conference to figure out. You know, our job as House Democrats is not to pick their leader. I nominated and i had the privilege of nominating our democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries to be speaker. I plan to do that on the house of the Democratic Caucus again. Our job is not to pick the republican speaker, but i would agree with liz cheney in what she said about jim jordan. 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What will this look like as israel launches its counteroffensive in gaza, and then will this really spread to the wider region . George that is the big concern right now. It is pretty clear, donna, you saw in my earlier interviews, hopes for a peace deal between saudi arabia and israel brokered by the United States at best on hold. No question, but israel must defend itself. Defend its people, defend its border. That was an act of terrorism. Thats going to get ugly, and especially in light of the fact that hamas clearly kidnapped people, killed innocent individuals who were out at a dance party. Theres no question its going to get ugly. Israel must defend itself and the United States must stand by her ally. George we heard Chris Christie talk about the fact it may be more complicated for the United States to stand by israel with a dysfunctional house. I think that may be true. As Kevin Mccarthy noted, at least were not in a Government Shutdown. Whether an active speaker can join gang of eight, is beside the point at this moment. Youre seeing is sort of the new world when america has pulled back from the world stage. You see it with russia feeling like they can invade ukraine. You obviously see it with hamas believing that this is a good political move for them to attack israel in this just incredibly violent manner, and i think for a lot of people, were thinking about china. Were thinking about taiwan. How is that not next . I mean, you have moms thinking about the draft here, you know, wondering what does it mean if the u. S. Has pulled back. If this is the chaos thats on the world where theyre not afraid of u. S. Power or u. S. Intervention anymore, thats a real problem i think were seeing. George we see it playing out in our politics. You see the people blaming the Biden Administration for that hostage deem with iran even though this was not United States money. This was iranian assets held by south korea. They immediately seized on that, and secretary blinken pushed back on that. That hasnt stopped republican candidates in the past. I think in your interview, it was interesting that long pause when you asked him, is this going to be a long war . This really does threaten to complicate things for some democrats. I think back to 2020. That was a domesticfocused election. That was about george floyd, and coronavirus, and things happening here. 2024, in ukraine, and things that kicked off over the weekend, i think youll see that gaze casted internationally, and for democrats who have been more uncomfortable on those issues and have not had a partywide message there, itll be interesting to see how the Biden Campaign contends with that. George different backdrop for the campaign. I think youre right about that. Lets turn back to the home front. Sarah isgur, lets talk about what happened this week. Kevin mccarthy is gone. Its unclear whos going to replace him. Absolutely. Weve gone already from three speaker candidates down to two speaker candidates and really the two left, you know, Steve Scalise is in some ways the heir to Kevin Mccarthy. He was in leadership and hes well known by elected republicans up and down. Hes a prolific fundraiser within the party and you have jim jordan sort of representing that new Republican Party if you will, the donald trump up and coming more populist, more isolationist wing. What i think that will be more interesting is will be the instance of the speaker vote, which everybody had to be on the record, this speaker vote for republicans will be anonymous. It will be behind closed doors. Well see where republicans actually are when donald trump cant get to them in their homes because he wont know how they voted. George ken buck said they have to come in anonymity, thats a very high bar. If you look at how this party is divided and how theyll get to that point, itll be fascinating, but i agree with sarah. This is whats so interesting about trumps decision to also jump in because his so much of his power over republicans is holding them to account publicly over where they are visavis trump, right . Now theyre in a situation where they have the ability for some to go against him privately. How many of them will take that opportunity . I think it remains to be seen, but there are so many personal dynamics at play here, so much history that goes, you know, far beyond trumps own, you know, role in the party that i think this one is not kind of a black and white decision for a lot of them. George i dont know if it makes any difference as far as the democrats are concerned, donna because the dynamics will bed a play when theyre dealing with a small minority hold a whip hand over the majority. They have a razorthin majority can they should have taken a chapter or page or even the entire nancy pelosi playbook on how to manage a caucus that is, you know, ideologically divided with some members who are not, you know, focused on governing. So i think its going to be tough to come up with a consensus candidate. Thats why Hakeem Jeffries and others are floating the idea that maybe its time for them to seek a bipartisan consensus so that the house can function as one of, you know, a coequal branch of government, but without that, well see ourselves in 40 days back where we started which is a house that cannot come up with a solution to keep the government functioning. George there doesnt seem to be an appetite on either side to bring in a by partisan coalition, certainly among the candidates for speaker of the house right now. I think they reflect the reality of the Republican Base. Theres an app site for fighting back against democrats and doubling down on said values. I think what we see in the house is really a refection of what is coming from the base of the party. I mean, i think that its going to be a real open question how they can find the person who can get to 218, but from the day that this became a kind of slim minority after the midterms, we have not seen republicans govern on a bipartisan consensus, and what theyre doing in the president ial race reflects that. If they wanted the nikki haleys or someone who represents a republican ideology of the past, they would be doing better. Theyre reflecting where their base is, which is doubling down rather than reaching out. George you mentioned what they do in private. The most politics happens in public, and donald trump still has that stranglehold. And voters at this point are not demanding congress do legislation. Theres been no punishment for the endless crs weve seen, continuous resolutions instead of a budget process, and nobody seems to care that congress hasnt been legislating. George there will be a punishment if theres a Government Shutdown. Will there . Weve done that before too, and maybe, you know, i think that at this point when you have voters instead rewarding fighting, opposing, the matt gaetzes of the world do better when their party loses and they want to be against something. Especially when youre in the majority and you dont control the senate and you dont control the white house. I think republicans arent going to be punished for not legislating. George they may not be punished, but donna, i wonder lets say the government shuts down. That would show dysfunction in the Republican Party, but thats not necessarily a good thing for President Biden. Its not good for anybody. Its not good for those men and women in the military who want to get paid. Its not good for people who need headstart program. Its not good for the american economy, and right now we know that the world looks to america look. There will be pain at the ballot box if the republicans once again fail to come up with a solution to keep our government functioning. I dont understand why were still talking about republicans because its clear to me they dont want to govern. They dont want to lead. They dont want to have different ideas and a vision. Right now its about revenge and retribution, and what happened immediately after Kevin Mccarthy was taken down is they took Nancy Pelosis office. They they told her to vacate. This is a party that wants revenge. This is one of the impacts of gerrymandering though. Republicans only have to worry about losing from the right. They dont create incentives for him to reach across the aisle. Thats why theyre acting like this. I think donna is right. This is what some Republican Voters want. They do want revenge and they do want to muck up the system, and they dont want to legislate. They do want to be seen as fighting against the establishment. That has proven to be an incredibly powerful message, and for some of them, there is political benefit to doing that. George we will see all the consequences play out in the next several weeks as we have all this turmoil on the world stage. Thank you all for joining us today, and up next, west maui is reopening to tourism today two months after the devastating fires in lahaina. Mola lenghi is on the scene when we come back. Fires in lahaina. Mola lenghi is on the scene when we come back. An infrastructure. Megawatts of power, rails and open road, and essential services of every kind. All running on countless invisible networks, making it a prime target for cyberattacks. But the same aipowered security that protects all of google also defends the systems running americas infrastructure. For these services. For the 336 million of us living here. After advil dual action back pain yo. Who. Haha. [dog barks] what . My back feels better. [rewind sound] before advil [grunts] oh. 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George west maui is reopening for tourism today two months after the hisri wildfires ravaged the town of lahaina, but it has prompted outrage from some residents. Mola lenghi spoke with some of them. Reporter today on the twomonth anniversary of the lahaina fire, tourists officially welcomed back to west maui. Tourism is hawaiis top industry and employs the most people. Visitor spending is way down. The estimate is about 11 million a day its down in maui. Reporter the crisis has housed more than 7,600 survivors across 40 hotels. Less than 24 hours we were given to move and have all of our stuff out by 12 00. Reporter displaced residents like Nicole Ellison forced to relocate. More than 4,000 people signed a petition to delay the reopening of tourism. That will be the only conversation with people, is did your house burn down in the fire . Thats something people will bring up over and over and over again. Reporter and while many of the wildfire victims in this community rely on tourism for work, their grief is now matched with anger that the reopening is happening at the expense of their home. Weeks before the reopening, hundreds crammed into this City Council Meeting uncertain of their future. Should we open . I dont think so. I dont think so. Reporter residents like charles my house burned. Its completely gone. Reporter charles says what they need now is time, not tourists. Are we supposed to be jovial when tourists are here in their bathing suits frolicking in the surf, driving these roads like theyre on a racetrack, drinking mai tais and partying in our face . Reporter charles was placed in a timeshare by the red cross, but he may once again be on the move after being served an eviction notice. This morning, i wake up to an email saying that i owe 21,589. 55 for the room im staying in. Reporter courtney lazzo has been an outspoken at advocate. It seems like its profit over people. Reporter her familys future hangs in the balance and her Housing Status changes by the day. What is it like living in that kind of uncertainty . Its hard, especially when you have kids. Reporter shes frustrated that decisions had been made without lahainas residents. Lahaina hasnt had time to process it all. Reporter for courtney, her biggest concern is lahaina. Were going to push back and fight like hell to make sure that we get the lahaina that we want. The lahaina that we had, but better. Reporter mola lenghi, abc news, maui. George thanks to mola for that. Well have more coverage tomorrow, and well be right back. More coverage tomorrow, and well be right back. George that is all for us today. Thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news tonight and ill see you tomorrow on gma. And ill see you tomorrow on gma. Her home in the future. And happy sunday to you. A gorgeous view outside where there is dense fog along the shoreline line. 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