Guest post them on Facebook Live on the live stream. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Sure thing. Chris, im starting with you as the travel expert here what do we know about the number of americans flying this week . Higher or lower than expected . I think its about what we expected. There are about a Million People a day are passing through tsa security checkpoints. That started last friday which is typically one of the busiest day. A Million People a day up from about seven or 800,000 that we had been averaging before that. This time last year we were looking at 2. 3 million travellers per day passing through security. All right. Thats still a lot. Certainly not compared to normal years. In a pandemic, were reaching our peak. Do you expect packed lights or do you think airlines have adjusted. I think theyre people are going to pack the flights. You know, few planes that are flying are flying full. I flew back to atlanta about three weeks ago, expected somewhat unpacked flights and was surprised at just how busy it was. I flew united, not reserving a middle seat. I found Denver Airport to be just about as busy as i have seen it in prepandemic trips. Its busy out there. Goodness. Most people thankfully are taking precautions. Seems like were getting less. Which airlines are still keeping the middle seats blocked . Currently, delta, jetblue and Alaska Airlines are blocking middle seats. Southwest is only selling enough seats where if every seat on the plane is full, that seat will remain empty. But united and american who are the largest carriers havent been blocking seats nor will. Tell me from beginning to end what really concerns you in the whole journey . Chris was mentioning, when you have a Million People traffic in one day, think about the fact that there are so many points of potential exposure to one another ch whether its getting to the airport, the gate, you have the flight, restaurants, bathrooms. Think about this. Over the summer when we were talking about travel and people staying home for fourth of july, labor day, columbus day, whatever it may be, people are going to outside picnics. Now theyre going for thanksgiving dinner. You have to add that into the equation. Just giving you a feeling of uneasiness. What are airlines doing to make people feel a little more at ease. Talk about the cleaning procedures. Thats one of them. Mask enforcement. Do we have any surveys to know which airline is doing a good job on this. It depends on which airline you talk to. Every airline thinks theyre doing the best job. Weve seen the videos of the electrostatic sprayers. I have never seen cleaner planes in my life during the pandemic. Theyre skeeky good. It depends on how full the flight is and what the how much attention the flight attendants are paying to making sure everyone keeps their masks on and behave the way they should. If you have a flight go ahead. Im squeaky clean. Im saying this is not that bad. I can get used to this. Thats nice and reassuring. I want to ask you dr. Patel, if you have a plane full of a hundred people. What are the odds, proebltds that somebody on that plane has covid . Its hard to say unless you gave me specifics about where all the people are coming from. That in its own is par of the issue. If you look at sort of the country, people are coming from different communities with different case rates. In some cases it might be 20 the test positive, sorry. Elsewhere it could be one or 2 . For fun, one out of ever 2 ever getting exposed. Those people getting other people exposed. Its really high. Even if you have 200. That could turn into thousands and thousands of cases from traveling. We cant miss the contact tracing. Think about how much interception there is when you travel throughout the country. Its not just the people sitting next to you. Thats for sure. Quantityas airline in australian, announcing they might make it so that International Travellers may have to get the vaccine before theyre allowed to board. Were not there yet, obviously. Chris, do you think that could become the norm where have a test or a vaccine . Yes. I definitely think that that is the way of the future. Quantityas has not floent to the United States for many months. They dont plan on coming back to the United States until the end of the year. Theyre trying to keep the virus at bay. I think that the ceo of quantas came out and said graduations are going to be required and i think youre going to hear that from other airlines and we have a grip on what thats about. Ellie has a question. Are they, meaning the airlines, really checking the temperature on each individual flying . No. That is not a requirement. Its a suggestion. Theres only one airline which is frontier that is testing the that is checking temperature before you get on the plane, but its sort of scatter shot. My temperature has been taken but its not by any means across the board, and i think dr. Patel will agree with me that temperature take is not necessarily the best test to see whether or not someone has covid. Im waiting for his agreement right there. Oh, yeah. I totally agree. The only people who have a false sense of security, therefore youre safe. Thats just not true. Yeah. Hey, chris, what should people look up if they choose to fly in terms of what they need to know about that state, staying quarantine status. The rules vary all over the place. For a long time there are a lot of the states in the u. S. Were prohibited from flying to new york unless they were willing to put up with a twoweek quarantine. They say if you can show proof that you have had a test within 272 hours of your flight, youre welcome to come in, much like they did in hawaii. Here we have a suggested quarantine. Its not really being enforced. People coming in from out of state are being asked to quarantine for two weeks. I dont think people will quarantine for two weeks. Do you think perhaps a car trip would be safer for those who feel like they do need to travel . Oh, definitely. It just goes back to some of the main factors weve talked about. Weve highlighted it in something weve done for abc. When you have an enclosed space to yourself, youre not in contact or potentially sharing spaces with the people around you. If people have the ability to drive, that is definitely favored over flying right now. I know you dont have a crystal ball but im going to ask you what do you think travel will look like for christmas . I think much like its does right now. If it pans out that a lot of people are not paying attention to the recommendations right now, well probably see another surge around christmastime. A lot of people will be making reservation. A lot of people are canceling or postponing. The airlines are allowing us to do that. People may push that trip deemer into the winter until we get a vaccine. Just because i want dr. Patel to give you brownie points,ints, would adds that you ch ditched your thanksgiving day flanges. I was going to have family come in and of course a big celebration. We were all excited about it and when it came down last week, no, its not the year to do it. You made a responsible decision. Im raising a grass to you, sir. Cheers. Chris, thank you so much. Appreciate all that great insight into traveling right now. Dr. Patel will stick around because we have much more to cover including we are back. Were keeping the code conversation going right now with dr. Patel. Well get to the vaccines but ill start with thanksgiving. You might have heard l. A. County is closing restaurants and bars come wednesday. They announced this an hour ago. Even outdoors. That smart or useful or effective as a strategy . If anything, it sends a clear message. In terms of being effective, its possible theyll avoid some infections. Even if you shut everything down and restaurants close people still can operate in the privacy of their own home. So it goes hand in hand. Theres only so much we can do with regard to restrictions. People have to exhibit model behavior. Melissa wants to know is it common to get covid more than once . I can openly say we dont know yet. There might be cases out there we havent identified. Weve certainly found that its possible to have it more than once. Common sense would tell me if it was well documented, we would see a lot more of it. There might be a little immunity from getting it once and that might wear off. Something like that or strains may mutate which would mean they could get the disease twice. Thats something were looking out for. Theres a new poll done by Michigan Health that came out today. One in three say family gatherings are worth the risk of spreading covid 1. Are you surprised by that . And i want to know how real is the risk . In true scientific fashion when i look at this poll, i want to know where the people were and what age were surveyed. I can imagine in some parts of the country depending on state mandates and stuff like that, people saying thanksgivings important to us, i dont care, well go there. Well see what happens. Which isnt an attitude to have. Other risks will be lower less people would be put up with the risk. I cant imagine chronic illnesses or grandparents are ok with that. No. Hes stay away. Two truths and a lie thanksgiving dinner edition. I am ready. Game on. Play along with us on Facebook Live. Ok, if you know the answer go ahead and type it in. Pay attention. Round one, two truths, one lie. A wash hands often with soap and water for at least 15 seconds. Now during the holidays and at all times. B, in order to sanitize your hands use Hand Sanitizer with at least 60 alcohol, and your own food, drinks, plates, cups, and utensils if you do decide to meet live. Let me talk myself through my thinking here. Wash hands often with soap and water. I think you should do that always. Thats true. Bring your own food, drinks, plates, cups and utensils. Will donahue thinks thats a lie but i think its true. So i am going to go with b, like catherine says, use Hand Sanitizer with at least 60 . I think thats a lie. I think it has to be higher than 60. We can go ahead and say weve broken the rules in this game and theres one and a half lies. What you, you, you. You should wash hands for 20 seconds. Not 15. And Hand Sanitizer according to recommend las vegas should be 780 . We broke the rules in this game but 60 may or may not be fine. Id go with 70. Youre not sparing my feelings. People were paying attention. They were. Can i give a shoutout to brian, who got the answer right. Avery put a and b, so she was on to you. Amy. I cant fool our viewers anymore. This is great. We have a lot of great smart attentive fans on facebook. If youre asymptomatic with covid19, how contagious are you . Youre definitely contagious. Now, in terms of how contagious are you, thats tough to say. That depends on your age, how much viral load of the virus youre carrying. I dont think you can quantify but im glad somebody asked you that question, because if youre asymptomatic and you dont have fever, you shouldnt have the false reassurance that youre safe to go travel and be around your family. Got it. I want to talk about astrazeneca announcing good news. We heard it was 70 effective and then we heard 90 effective. Can you explain . It sounds like paradox. What they were doing in their trials is two separate dosing regimens. Both were two doses. One was half a dose and a full dose. The other was two full doses. The half dose and the full dose the other was 62 . It should be the other way around. Scientists and research es are looking at why that is. In the second dose, well wait and see. Thats actually better because you use less of the van seen. The astrazeneca one seems to have another advantage. It can be refrigeratored at more normalish temperature, not like that minus 94. Talk about why that might make it more distributable, if you will. We talk about the efficacy, the 90 versus 80 . Distribution is a big deal. Pfizer, negative 94 degrees. The moderna say it can be in a refrigerator for several months but the new one for astrazeneca can stay in refrigerator for up to six months. Thats a ground breaker. Making sure everybody gets one. I think the important thing at the end of the day is having multiple vaccines available. We can get them to different areas with different needs at different times. One thing about astrazeneca they pledged to make sure its distributed for free, which is a very big advantage when it comes to distribution. Sure. I realize there are a lot of unknowns still and not that we necessarily have a choice. But many of you are sharing on Facebook Live, which vaccine is going to be best . I mean, do we know the answer to that . I dont think we do. Weve already given it a snap shot right there. Dwre efficacy, moderna and pfizer are higher than as t astrazene astrazeneca. That could change once we get all the Statistical Analysis done. That can change when Johnson Johnson or another Company Comes out with their work. Anything above 60 to 70 is going to be a vick. Pay attention to what we mentioned earlier. Thats distribution. Each vaccine has its own victories on its own. I think we should take a step back. Getting this out in under a year. Thats pretty incredible when you consider how long it usually takes to develop vaccines. Dr. Patel, great chatting with you. Thank you so much for offering all that information and keeping it fun at the same time. Best way to learn. Thats how we roll. All right. Thanks so much. Well take a short break. Well look at San Franciscos response to this latest surge wi its made for this guy a veteran who honorably served and its made for her shes serving now we made it for all branches and all ranks whether they served one tour or made a career of it. We also made usaa for military spouses and their kids usaa is easy to work with and can save you money on auto, home and renters insurance. Become a member today. Get an insurance quote at usaa. Com quote usaa. What youre made of were made for welcome back. San francisco announced that it expects to move into the purple tier soon as early as yesterday. Now, that would trigger the state mandated curfew. Didnt happen yesterday but it could layer this week. Joining us to talk about San Franciscos latest response is assessor carmen chu. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. What is the latest in terms of when you think San Francisco might move into the purple tier and after that, how soon would the curfew start . Were watching and monitoring all the data with regards to case counts. Folks should know we have a lag in the data. That being said, were watching it. To the extent that we start we continue to see increasings in the number of cases that come in, we could potentially fill this week. Unfortunately we are not able to know until we see the data come through. Hard to say, but were preparing for in the case that we do get the purple tier. Ok. And would the curfew start right away . Would you give it a couple of days leeway . The state is pretty prescriptive when it comes to hitting a purple tier. Just to know, some of the things that would happen right away if San Francisco ended up being designated pu ed purple order. San francisco would have 48 hours to comply once the state designates that tier. So that would require that people would have to stay home except for essential activities from 10 00 p. M. At night until 5 00 a. M. The next morning. If we get designated to a purple tier well have 48 hours. Theres a second component that what happens if we got put into the purple tier. That would mean we also create more restrictions around the types of Business Activities or other things that we could be doing in San Francisco. Thats what i want to follow up on. Yeah. As head of the Economic Recovery Task force, how would you support businesses and also the folks who lost their jobs. What efforts are you guys currently embarking on . Its incredibly difficult, because weve been trying to take cautious step forward. Also to limit as much rollback as we can possibly do. We definitely hope that folks help us limit it and spread down that spread. What would happen be we got put into the purple tier would be that wed have to roll back a number of activities that we already have opened up. Things like having to open up, shutting down indoor operations for museums, indoor gyms, movie theaters, houses of worship, those are some of the things wed have to close down. We know that businesses have been struggling and we know a lot of workers just want to hope that we can all do our part to try to limit the spread of covid so that hopefully we dont have to end up back with breaking news. The gsa has just informed the biden catch that he has been determined to be the apparent tonight, several developing stories as we come on the air, the concern over millions traveling amid this pandemic. And breaking news as we come on the air tonight, the transition officially begins from President Trump to president elect joe biden, but first the virus. Despite the cdc urging americans to stay home, millions are now flying home. And tonight the new and alarming numbers. Governors from new york to North Carolina sounding the alarm saying these are dangerous times. The demand for testing before the holiday. Millions waiting for hours and tonight the news that new york city is planning a new field hospital. And the lines across this country, families in need this thanksgiving. And how you can help. The other major headline, news of a third vaccine, oxfords vaccine now being called highly effective. And tonight bob