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About. Joining us is mask expert and university of San Francisco scientist Jeremy Howard. Good to see you. Hi, there. Lets start with the headlines. I know youre wachg stories out of several different countries. Take us through some of the examples and what they mean for us he about the impact of schools on covid19 transmission is super complicated. Heres the problem. Normally we figure out what is going on with transmission, using contact tracing, and go and see if they have covid19. The problem s kids almost never get significant enough symptoms that they end up as a recorded case. So theres a huge amount of unrecorded transmission in kids. And sweden, they did not close down the School System and they went around and surveyed lots and lots of people at random and tested them. And it turned out, kids 4 about as much covid19 as adults did. It turned out the transmission was just as bad. We have no reason to believe the kids cant go pass it on to their teaches and parents and grandparents just as easily as adults. S so what we have seen, for example in israel, they all right, we are back with Jeremy Howard of masks for all, wiped out the virus. And they were down to schools and a usf Data Scientist talking i think yesterday they about the importance of masking. I would like to ask you if you recorded 1,000 cases in 24 have any more data with regard hours. But what happened and what did it have to do with schools . To the ef facy, and i think for the people who are mostly in the strearl did a lot of things bay area are con finished about Wearing Masks, but in case they right. They had mandatory masks early on, and they kind of gradually where sitting there, any new brought schools back in a safe data to offer . Way, small classes. They did it it if two weeks and yeah, plenty. Against the guidance of the just this morning, i gave a health experts, the government presentation to the World Health Organization than on. Great timing. Soge of the most interesting said everything open and within a month, massive outbreak, we data is ecological data. Have seen the same thing in my lets look at the places that town of melbourne in australia. Have put in mask requirements, what happened before, and a nearly eliminated the virus. Really great study of that, they and the biggest outbreak in a estimated if the rest of the school, about 150 people. Count introduced mask man dates, its a real worry what were it would add seeing in recent weeks. It seems like school can be a real transmission source. And similar studies show we are we looking at what is going saved 300,000 cases in the middle of may through the on . Maindates in the u. S. The schools in are they not able in the u. S. , one of the things to socially distance . Have they done a deep dive into we have really seen in the data is that american rss generally what happened . Not Wearing Masks until we tell them you have to, and once we what twe do know in the mel say they have to, they are, and dourn australia case is the there is not surprising. School focused on cleaning of it was all over the place for a classrooms. They dont have masks. Long time, and we see over 70 on reporting that social distancing the live in places where they actually have to wear a mask. Was poor. Reporting in israel that masks okay, you put out something i were not widely used in schools. Thought was very interesting it so seems like the respiratory today, which is cleaning solution ingredients that work i know a lot of people are virus is transmitting through interesting in this. Tell us what are the ingredients breathing, speaking and coughing in an indoor environment where and what should we have in the house . Do no i do not remember there is lots of talking going off the top of my head. On. Eechd school county, what do i will run through it with you make of Orange County voting you. What we got in the singapore is the under laying chemicals. On the reopening, and if they you dont have to look at every were to consult you, what would brand. I cant say the names of the. You say . I would say this is a real worry. You can put it on the screen, look, kids can wear masks. Look atcals. My 4yearold refuses not wear a kbaus clay they clasly have the mask. She sees adults around her. Same thing. And we have dix simpbt bottles she has a fun, cool mask. Kids can wear masks. Of cleaning fluid and five of them have chemicals that are its fine. And at school, its really hard to have them distancing all the effective against coronaviruses. Time. What are the products, kids will be kids. So we know that when you wear a mask, it means that that droplet hydrogen peroxide, benzo cloud, the germ cloud, is small interdistancing works better so chloride. Yeah, its just like bleach. Its going to make us more they are just the chemical names likely to be able to open faster for bleach and stuff like that. And better and more safely if they are really, standard normal the children are Wearing Masks. What do you make of the things. The other thing i looked it an argument that you heard from some really young kids, they is the research in masks, could wear it in aun safe way, protecting the wearer, not just leading to more touching and protecting others swrks there is transmission and the social it a lot of interesting tough going on there, you can now buy emotional issues, not being able to read cues when you cant see pieces of fimter paper that are the facial expression. Designed to protect the wearer. And maybe they will get one i really like i dont get frightened. What do you make of those paid for any of this, its arguments . I think the first one, we are told that people are not capable called filti. Of wearing a mask. We are capable of wearing socks, originally, they made air conditioning fitters and they underwears, we can make rasks, and if we if we do it wrong switched to mask fitters and its tested on the same there is something covering our equipment as medical masks and face. Its actually getting the same if we touch it, its better than level of filtration. If you go to etsy, you can buy touching our face with no mask, as fared learning, i dont know what to say. From Community Div crafters, it really is a compromise. It really is tough. I dont know what the right masks with the pockets that are going to do a fantastic job answer is with schools but heres the thing. Protecting you and the people we do know that if we have big around you. Oh, i do see a lot of that. Outbreaks in schools, theyre going to close down and theres filti fabric. All right, thank you so much. You always have interesting going to be no learning and no child care, no jobs for the advice for us and we appreciate teachers. It. Thanks for spending the time. So in the end, i think we do have to think about what take care. Compromises we are willing to all right. At it doing to a lot of the make to give our kids a chance to learn. I thought a lot of people have questions the efficacy of bare area businesses. And as soon as we get the next guest up, we will take a close look at Santa Clara County, masks. I think the director fehr records at ucsf said that masks jose in particular. Can protect you of more severe because of government nors new orders that came down yesterday, he called it a dimmer switch. Diseases. You can explain that . Yeah, what we have seen in the population of Wearing Masks, they are the indoor operations that need to close now. The vast vart of the masks, and and statewide, we will talk about restaurants, wineries, over 70 of the u. S. Population movie theaters, family has to work masks. And not only do the number of cases drop but it seems the entertainment center, zoos, and ball bars must close, whether number of deaths drops fast they operate indoors or outdoors intermore. We think the reason for that is and right now, i want to show that the viral dose is what you is happening on the watch list. The 31 counties or so on the decreased. Less of watch list. They have further restrictions, fitness centers, gyms, places of mask, and it results in less would w worship, personal care, severe symptoms and less barbershops and malls. Fatalities and less significant Santa Clara County had just transmission. And wearing a mask is good in gotten on the watch list. That means this doesnt apply to both directions. You hear youre wearing it to them yet but we believe as of protect the other person. But this is suggesting it can pt tomorrow, the rules will, and by tomorrow, they have to shut down the sectors after just being protect you as well. There is an ailiblety of allowed to reopen monday. Joining me now is carrie surgical masks and they do bennett, the owner of two beauty provide a better protection to the wearer. I do want to ask you, there is something cultural about salons in san jose. Wearing masks here and president thanks for joining us. Trump recently wore one in my pleasure. Thanks for asking me. Public for the first time, and you are coming to me from one of the salons. Cdc director Robert Redfield what one . Im at stio said the key to opening is have to a you, you were masks, and dpu think attitudes have changed and significantly making preparations to open. I know you actually didnt open in the last couple weeks . Very significantly. Yesterday on the first day. But tell me what kind of unfortunately, the thing that made it change, is the big preparations and money, and outbreaks in states like texas and florida, its kind of Financial Investments you made. Brought it home that this is a we have been working on things for four months. And yesterday, we had just wreal risk and started training our staff in two locations, two locations, the governor in texas is wearing and 45 employee, and because of masks where there is a significant number of cases. The restrictions, we are starting day one, and training more than 20, and donald trump, when theres an outbreak in the on the tenpage county white house, he required directive, for social everybody in the white house to wear them, and he is now, being distancing, and sanitation a role model himself and being protocols. We are already doing sanitation. So we started that, as far as seen wearing a mask. As people start to wear masks what we have done to prepare, we more, and actually still debate have basically kind of did a whether or not they should, there is lots of confrontations in the streets, strangers sarks, miniremo should you be wearing one and miniremodel, and we bought someon dont need to partitions, we stocked up on wear one now. Thousands of disposable mafrks im not near people. You can tell us the scenarios that people know, so they dont li masks like this, hand sanitizer, need to confront each other . Yeah, i mean, i dont we probably spent about 15,000 confront people about masks. On two locations on procuring you know, we have Better Things to do. And doing things to get us ppe its more likely to cause danger ready. And its all just than doing nothing. I start off by saying, i if you all right. See something with a not over yeah, carrie, i have to imagine their nose, dont worry too after spending 15,000 to be put much. It doesnt reduce the on hold again, we are going to ask you for a tour of some of effectiveness of protecting you. And given that, where do you the partiti need a mask . How about poor fred wilson . You need them indoors when youre around people you dont see all the time. What a shame. Not your family or roommates, so soon after retiring. I hear his wife needed help with the funeral expenses. Bhafr, and particularly if youre closer than six feet. Thats ridiculous he had social security. When my brother died, even outdoors, if there is no his wife received a check from social security, all right wind, if you have to be close to somebody for more than 15 for 255 minutes, i would say that is a risky situation too. The funeral costs were well over 8,000. In the bay area, we have to wear them outside any way. How on earth did she pay for it . I think 30 feet is the limit. For me, i think that is overkill. Fortunately, my brother bought additional Life Insurance before he retired. Whew i bet that cost from a practical point of view, you know, i would say i focus on a pretty penny, huh . Not with Colonial Penn. The indoor public spaces, public Coverage Options start at just 9. 95 a month. Transsport. I know that 30 feet in san less than 35 cents a day. Fr counties. I have it myself. We both do. What if youre walking in the both of you . Thats right. Neither of us had to answer any Health Questions neighborhoods on wide streets or take a physical exam. And you no e to avoid each other. You get over on the other side of the street. Do you need a wear a mask for in fact, no one our age can be turned down. Nope. Hm. Is this a plan that offers that . Not really. I would say dont worry about it. Look, some people are more a lot cautious than others and they might want to put a mask on in befit nev decreas iet older. Rs that situation. But i dont really think thats your rates go up every year, right . No, not at all. An important. The transmission right outdoors is 20 times lower, and friends keep telling friends about guaranteed acceptance whole Life Insurance transmission occurs when you are from Colonial Penn Life Insurance company. Close to somebody for a period of time, and there a chance for with this coverage, your premium never increases for any reason, a germ cloud to form. And your benefit wont decrease simply because you grow older. Thats not going to happen unless they sneeze at you or options start at just 9. 95 a month. Something. That would be bad. Well this is not coming at if youre age 50 to 85, you but a viewer wants to know you cannot be turned down because of your health. What if you are walking behind Colonial Penn specializes in protection something who is not wearing a mask in. Yeah, its possible. For mature men and women. Its pretty speculative. To find out more, call now. male announcer call now and youll also get this free beneficiary planner i havent seen kmexamples, and this free prescription savings card documented cases. It doesnt mean its not that can help you save up to 80 on prescription drugs. Possible. I would be a little more cautious myself in that situation, i try not to walk straight behind people across the road. All right, Jeremy Howard, always great talking to you. Thank you so gain soon. 90 seconds. All right, we are back on air with carrie ben it in, who operates a couple salons in Santa Clara County, they know, we just started training for the reopening and we have to put things on hold. So carrie, you have no idea when you guys are reopen. And you furloughed more people, send them home again, had you started booking appointments . Im sure there were a lot of people waiting for hair cuts. Well, no because we had so many people we were going to have to make phone calls. We had to rebuild our books. So we basically had just sentd out an an email to our data base of clients asking us to email us with their requests. I had an online request form, and we had clients that have been cancelled from march 17th until now, that we were going to start bringing our staff back on to payroll to make the phone calls. You know, imry i want to see the what yola ss safe as possible. Here are the partitions. We have tons and tons and tons of ppe. We have socially distanced the salons and we have a hepa filtration circulator they use in hospitals to change the air here every 3 1 2 minutes. And then i just restocked my shelves with retail. All of this. I hope it doesnt gatr dust. We hope so too. I tell you, carrie taking t me a sharing your we are coming back on tv. Joining me now is layne hendricks, the Public Information expert from marin county. We were discussing what the numbers are looking like for marin county. Why they are better than other counties, you are on the governors watch list, so i tell you, what does it mean for the businesses that are allowed to be open, versus the ones that have to be closed. Something asked about nail salons and pet grooming. Just run through the businesses not allowed now. So you can find those that are watching that want to review the extensive list, you can find it an marinrecovers. Com. That is the central hub for business reopenings and where with have guidelines for businesses. In terms of yesterdays announcement, marin county, we took a more cautious approach. It didnt affect us as badly as others. We dont have a lot of Industries Open yet. But the businesses include indoor hair salons and barbershops and we had already been forced to close Indoor Dining a week ago because we were on the watch list. It also affects our nonessential office space. So those dizs that are considered nonessential by the original shelter in place that is our interpretation of what the state means and the bars are forced to close, if they serve food, outdoor, they are allowed to proceed as long as the food and alcohol are one transaction. We have 20 seconds. What is the latest with the parks and trails and beaches at this point. They are still open. That was not affected. But we are still in a shelter in place. People should stay home as much as possible, avoid the temptation to travel from county to county. All right, laen hendricks, thank you so much for your time today. See you soon. And thanks for joining us today on this interactive show, tonight, the u. S. Now surpasses 136,000 deaths from coronavirus. And tonight, the head of the cdc warning that this coming fall and winter will probably be, quote, one of the most difficult times that we will experience in American Public health. Also, e new in tonight, inside hospitals across the south. Icus running out of space. In one hospital alone, 29 patients waiting for a bed. Hardhit florida reporting a Record Number of deaths in one day. Los angeles on the brink tonight of ordering a stay at home order. And dr. Anthony fauci on any potential vaccine, and his sobering prediction on when americans may no longer have to worry about this virus

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