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He was nobody. He looked like a putz. They wanted her, but not him. I think for paul, losing her to peter, a huge star, director, was the ultimate insult. I knew he was dangerous. And somehow or other she didnt see that. Are you really shy, sensitive, and romantic . Yes, im getting over my shyness fast. But i am very sensitive. And im very romantic. Thats the type of girl a lot of men fantasize about. A lot of men like the girl next door. Are you the girl next door . Because it seems to me that ive never lived next door to anyone who looked like you. Well, when i came from the town that i came from, i lived with my family still. Id just graduated from high school. I worked in a dairy queen for four years, wearing pigtails and no makeup. Whose playmate are you supposed to be when youre the playmate of the month . I think im supposed to be the playmate, whoever chooses me as their fantasy. Dorothy stratten in many ways was almost like a fantasy of what the playboy reader or the playboy fan would want. Shes blonde. Shes well built. She has the innocence about her. Dorothy stratten was an angel. She just was a sweet, effervescent angel. I said, shes gorgeous. And this town will destroy her. She was just breathtakingly beautiful. There was something very otherworldly about being with her. Time would stop and you just felt you were in a frozen moment. She was a young girl from vancouver, british columbia. She was very naive, high school student, really had no worldly experience. She is the daughter of a woman who came over after world war ii. She has almost never known her biological father. Dorothy really wanted people to love her. She had felt abandoned by any kind of male figure that was in her life. She was being raised by her mother. I think that her mother, nelly, was a very hard worker. And she worked in a school cafeteria. It was difficult. Dorothy went to work. Because her mother needed the money. She took care of me a lot. Because my mom wasnt around. Taught me how to tie my shoes, was there for every school function. Sports day, talent day, she was there. Dorothy had started working at this dairy queen when she was 14. And she was really pleased to have a found a job that young. I can kind of picture this beautiful blonde girl, still young and Beautiful Skin and beautiful eyes and long legs and saying to you, do you want vanilla or chocolate . Right . Shes still working at that dairy queen when shes 18. And shes still in high school. And that is where she is the day that paul snider, a local pimp, walks in to the dairy queen and sees dorothy and both of their lives will be changed forever after. Paul snider is an interesting character, a scary one but undeniably interesting. He didnt keep a low profile. In that he drove a black corvette, wore a mink coat, star of david encrusted with jewels that he hung on his chest. He was called the jewish pimp. And he cultivated that. Paul snider was dressing in exactly the way that he thought successful men were dressing in disco clubs. It was almost like he was looking at what John Travolta was wearing in saturday night fever. And that was the image he was also trying to convey with the shirt that was open and gold jewelry hanging down, and his hairy chest hanging out, that was the look of the time. I found him to be basically a very streetwise individual trying to basically make a buck any way he could, especially on the backs of others, using others. He was an opportunist and he was always looking for his opportunity to make money. He was not on the up and up, you know. If you shake hands, you count your fingers after you do it. He made a pretty good living as a promoter for automobile shows and cycling shows. But it wasnt enough to accommodate his extravagant tastes so he began to procure girls and pimp them on the side. He had a stable of several girls. They called him the jewish pimp. He would find them and then exploit them to build his own power. Paul snider was a predator. You think of him, and you think of a wolf, and you think of him stalking his prey. So he sees a sexy girl at a dairy queen. Shes a child, basically, but you know, hmm. Hmm. What can happen for me through her is of interest to me. And he decides to groom her like a lot of people like this do. You look at them and you wonder, my goodness, this is the perfect victim for snider. You had this innocent, untouched young piece of canvas. He had a good eye. He saw the playboy playmate of the year behind a counter at dairy queen. He saw the possibility. Thats an eyeball. Thats a good eye. And he was right. She was spectacular to look at. And she was also sweet, and likable, and approachable, and nice. He bought her beautiful jewelry, beautiful clothes. So she was totally taken in by him. There was a bit of a pathology about her in the sense that when this guy paid attention to her and showered her with gifts, she grabbed onto that. There was something missing in her life. As a 26yearold man, he goes to her high school prom. He buys her the gown that shes going to wear for the prom. It was a very beautiful ruffled dress that highlighted her features. So in the movie that i was in, star 80, paul snider comes and takes dorothy to her prom, her high school prom. And its it really does feel uncomfortable. After the dance, took her to a professional photographer who took her first professional photo. And it was in this very chaste but luxurious gown. Paul snider worked her insecurity and gave her compliments in the places where she felt most vulnerable. And when youre insecure, you hear those words, they fill holes that you feel youre made up of. People at school would tease her about her lips being so big. And she felt awkward. She wasnt comfortable in her own skin. Paul snider saw this young girl, who was almost old enough, at the dairy queen as the sexy girl next door. Now, thats what Playboy Magazine would advertise all their girls as, the hot girl next door. She could live next door to you, pal. Really . You think . Let me look. And if shes not there, shes in this magazine. Hes telling her, my goodness, you could be a playboy bunny. You could be this. You could be that. And in her world, working at dairy queen and not seeing a future for herself, that could be something. She was very shy at the time too. So this is a whole new world for her. And it took him a little while to talk me into agreeing to taking some test pictures. I had never taken my clothes off for anyone i didnt know. And eventually she said yes. It was just this gradual experience of saying just a little bit more, and a little more, until you suddenly find yourself as a part of this completely different world. And its hard to look back and measure how far youve come. She was afraid her mother would not like it. And she didnt feel comfortable doing it. There was arguing going on. I recall that. Dorothy crying and paul trying to convince her that this is right, that itll be fine. Its not the worst thing in the world. Go ahead, do it. She was enamored with him. He saw that in me . Oh, my god. And to make her happy to be her, happy to be her with him. So it was artificial. But it was a relationship. And it was wonderful. It was great. And she trusted him. I think the early devotion to dorothy was partially an act. He considered dorothy class merchandise. And i thought, this guy is a real con artist. L saidyoure beful. And you know the effect that those words can have on a woman. Only lexus asks questions like these, because we believe the most amazing machines are inspired by you. Experience the rewards of our curiosity. Keep being you. And ask your doctor about biktarvy. 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People forget that hugh hefner was in some ways a visionary. When it started, playboy was kind of a shock. I mean, whered this come from . Playboy magazine, up until the mid70s, was a nono in everybodys house. Only if you were really hip was it okay to, yeah, i have playboy. So . But if you werent hip, you were probably nasty. The 1970s were as sexualized a decade as weve really ever seen. You have movies like deep throat and the devil in miss jones becoming mainstream box office successes. It was an era that felt liberated all of a sudden. It was very exuberant. Women were feeling free sexually. This was the first generation that had the pill. And the idea of more and more sexual frankness and candor is kind of in the culture. In the 70s, playboy had established itself as a dominant commercial force. Hugh hefner was an icon, he was a legend. He managed to find a way to thread the needle where he could have pictures of nude women that were indeed attractive and compelling but it didnt feel dirty. He kind of scraped the word dirty off the idea of dirty pictures or dirty movies and thats what made him famous. I read it for the articles, would be one of the most familiar lies of the 60s and the 70s as it related to playboy. Playboy was trying to say, lets have fun, innocent fun. Why are we being so puritanical about this . But it wasnt dozens of men in bikinis roller skating around in a circle while women cheered. Somehow, the sexual revolution didnt cause us to reexamine the fact that women were going to be the ones on display. To commemorate their 25th anniversary, playboy had a big playmate hunt. Looking for the 25th anniversar outreach and theyre going to be lots of prizes and things like that. And so dorothy was one of the runnersup. Playboy was looking for a 25th anniversary playmate, they were having a great playmate hunt, they called it. I brought her down. It was her First Airline flight. It was her first limo ride. It was a sunday afternoon. Dorothy stratten talked about that day in an interview with playboy. I remember driving up this driveway and i see this huge castle and my legs would not move. I was shaking so bad i thought everyone in that room could hear my knees knocking. I was so, so shy. Well, thats what they liked, they liked the innocence and they liked the sexuality. And thats what they saw when they saw dorothy. They saw someone fresh, almost seemingly unaware of the effect that her nudity had on men. The 25th Anniversary Special was supposed to be, like, the biggest centerfold ever. And i think it came down between candy loving and dorothy, and do she needed a lot of grooming. So they knew she wasnt ready yet, even though she was as beautiful as candy loving and could easily have been that special playmate, she wasnt ready. She was a total babe in the woods. I cannot remember another playmate being that, i dont want to say naive, inexperienced. Unused to her surroundings and not used to thinking that she was really beautiful. Can you imagine having never left this small town, and working at the dairy queen to come to hollywood, to end up at parties where people are drinking cocktails. Yet youve never seen a cocktail before. Everything about your experience is brand new. So when dorothy first came to hollywood for playboy, she was just 18. She had only just graduated high school. The whole thing was just one big trip after another, going from one world into another. I got a call from paul. Max baer was jethro on the beverly hillbillies. How do you gentlemen like your tea . We dont know, maam. We aint tasted it yet. And, of course, we all still think of him that way, but its been a few years. And it turns out that he was friends with paul snider. He said he had met this girl and she was gorgeous, and they took some pictures of her and they sent them down and playboy is really interested in her. And, he said, shes gonna be a star. I said, oh yeah. Of course. She had to have felt excited, overwhelmed, scared. So paul was the only person that was from back in the world that she came from that she knew. And so she held on, she held on tight. She was on the phone with him daily when we shot her. She would call and tell him how great it was going. She thought that whatever success she was having, and it was embryonic at that point, was totally due to paul. She leaned on him. And so if stuff ever got too big or too scary, he was the one who was going to be in her corner. And so for him, thats an incredibly powerful position because the more and more power that she builds, the more he gets to be the person who is the foundation for it all, and who benefits from it all. Paul was a smalltime hustler who found the golden nugget. Paul thought he could ride his golden girl all the way to the top. This wasnt love, per se. This was love and business. This was desire and business. He came to los angeles. He had an idea and lets face it, he wasnt wrong. He told her, take these pictures. Lets go to hollywood. Lets meet hefner. And, in his mind, im a hugh hefner. I can see myself having a big mansion, and this girl could be the beginning of that. This is about discovering your world is not the world that you thought it was. It was women being there to satisfy mens lust. He definitely looked at her as a commodity and used her from the very beginning. This is the hollywood dream this is the hollywood dream gone wrong. Ere. 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The club is really an extension of the concept that was developed in the magazine. Its an attempt, as much as possible, to kind of bring to life many of the notions that are popularized in the magazine. A playboy bunny was someone who worked in the clubs, learned the bunny dip, which was a particular way of serving a drink. Okay, once again, lets see the bunny dip done just so. Thats absolutely correct. So a bunny is sophisticated, but shes also naive. A bunny is available, but also you cannot touch her. All of playboy is about these contradictions between one idea and another, and then trying to live inside of them. We take blatant sexuality and then try to layer over it a bunch of childlike, charming, asexual aspects as if that kind of cleans it up. Thats like doing heroin and taking vitamins. Playboy is an attempt to put together a quality entertainment magazine for an adult male audience which brings together things of an erotic and sensual nature with things of an intellectual nature. Faster. Very good. Around the table. So i think it was a very traditional approach to mens roles and womens roles. Were attempting to do in a very real way is were trying to give sex a good name. You wouldnt think that would be so difficult, but it is. The clubs were still an operation at the time that Dorothy Stratten came to playboy. And when she needed a job, both to get her green card and maybe to make a little extra money, she wound up working as a playboy bunny at the los angeles playboy club. I dont think she was allowed to serve alcohol, because she was only 18, so she was kind of a door bunny that would greet people coming in. From a business standpoint, that was a pretty good move. A lot of women come to playboy and they want to be published in the magazine. And theyre beautiful, theyre gorgeous, but they are not hugh hefners idea of the girl next door. They are too worldly or womanly. A lot of men like to have their women as, as not, you know, having not been around too much. She was so thrilled and happy to be part of it. The innocence is what you want to keep. Hef saw they, everyone saw that. You couldnt spend a minute with her and not be in love with her. I wanted her on the next plane. It was a big day for me. They knew me out the next sunday. They brought me up to the mansion the same day. I introduced her to people. She relaxed a little, but not a lot. It was very exciting, very nerveracking. And she came in the next morning, bubbly and ready to go. I thought, wow. So, how do you do a nude layout . Do you just walk into a room, take off all your clothes . Do they work up to it gradually . Take a few shots with, just, like, a bare chest and work up to a nude shot, or how do they do it . How do they make you feel comfortable . Depending on, i think depending on each individual girl and how nervous she is were you nervous . Yes, very. I think even when her pictures first came in, they knew right away. Because she came right back to the mansion. And they shot her very quickly. And it all happened very fast for dorothy. I worked for playboy for 43 years. It was pretty easy to know if a girl was going to make it or not. Luminescent, angelic, she lit up a room. All the corny phrases were true about dorothy. So playboy did a documentary called portrait of Dorothy Stratten, in which you can see them filming her photo shoot. And you can see what it is that goes into that thing that made playboy so successful. Obviously the bits that they chose for these documentaries were very flattering. Little more. Now it happens, look at that. And yet still she laughs so much. She spends so much time just seeing how silly it is. I called her a womanchild. When you looked at her, she was a total lady. Had this statuesque look. But when you talked to her, she was still a little girl. She was thrilled about the whole session. I noticed in the first centerfold that we ran, that if you look at it, that shes looking up so you kind of saw the whites of her eyes. And im not going to say it exaggerated, in a sense, because i dont even think she recognized what power she had at all. That picture told me a lot. That was the male fantasy. That she was this innocent, almost virginal young woman making herself available, maybe for the first time, to the man of her dreams or to every man and his fantasies. She was about as naive as anybody that ive ever met in los angeles. And i said to paul, i said, paul, do you care about her . And he said, yeah. I said, well, if you really care about her, take her and take her back to vancouver. She doesnt belong here. And then the photos are incredible, and hefs thrilled, and the next thing you know, you know, you get your month. She was really happy then. Thats when i think it was starting to change with paul. Paul tried to keep tabs on her. I know he did, but it wasnt, i dont think, jealousy. It was protecting his interest. Paul snider had shaped her like pygmalion, to be a certain type of woman. But then she came to playboy. And then the playboy world started to shape her. This is how you answer a question. This is how you arch your back. This is how you look good in pictures. They were trying to give her the level of sophistication that would make her succeed more in the world. That was at the same time about, maybe paul is not the man for you. He found out, when he turned up there, they didnt want him, right. The gates were closed to him. They wanted her, but not him. Why is that . Because a guy like hugh hefner and a place like playboy is about maximizing the female archetypes. They didnt need paul snider. They could handle that kind of thing on their own. This is hals heart. Its been broken. And put back together. 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Havent you missed enough . Ask an asthma specialist about fasenra. If you cant afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. The movie that bob fosse directed is called star 80. Star 80 is a reference to the vanity plates that paul snider had taken out to put on his mercedes. That was a declaration of what he thought was going to be the future for dorothy. It stars Mariel Hemingway as Dorothy Stratten. And it stars eric roberts as paul snider in a really kind of breakout role. Snider. Paul. Im having this conversation. Ith myself in a mirror thats im this important, see . Thats where his confidence came from. Because he didnt have it built in. So he had to make it up somehow. So it was all in the presentation. Paul, if anything, certainly had trappings of inadequacy from the very beginning. He was orphaned at an early age. His family fell apart. And he dropped out of school in the seventh grade to support himself. I know he was very, very vain. Very much into body building. He worked out every day. So he was really pushing for the exercise. He felt he was too skinny. I always had the feeling there was something of a little man syndrome about him. He didnt know if he was a pimp, a manager, an agent, actor, a weightlifter. Paul snider wanted to be anything that would make him money, that would get him on the in with the in people, the elite. He wanted to be somebody. And he was nobody. Paul really admired hefner and the whole hefner philosophy. And to him, having easy access to the mansion was the pinnacle of human achievement. The whole idea of the playboy mansion was to be cool. Look, there are hot and cold running women here. Just be cool. Paul snider didnt know how to do that. And he knew that dorothy was his meal ticket. Who was gonna give him access to anything . He looked like a putz. I mean he had the fur coats all the way to the floor. The chains, the silk black shirts, i mean, he was such a cartoon character. Paul was offensive. Paul was also he looked smalltime. He dressed smalltime. He sounded smalltime. He acted smalltime. And hef didnt. Dorothy made this incredible impression. Everybody loved her. And almost everyone was universally put off by paul. He was a wheelerdealer, a very obvious one. Hefner took one look at snider. And one word came into his mind. Pimp. That was the dirtiest word you could say at the playboy mansion. The mansion was that friday night party that you need to be at with the greatest movie stars and the greatest cars and the greatest credits and the most indulgent egos. Its hollywood. Its everything you think it is. It was grandiose. And it was glamorous. Its flashy. People are drinking a lot and hobnobbing with a lot of celebrities and a lot of directors. Bill cosby was always there. Johnny carson was there, robin williams. Whyd he have great parties . Beautiful broads. Theyre coming up here for the girls. There was a grotto famously where young women would come. And men would sit in this hot tub. And its kind of like this sybaritic place you can go and have fun and act like a hedonist. Even for me, it was like, holy mackerel, this is wild to me. So can you imagine dorothy coming into that situation. While hugh hefner himself would deny that it was this licentious palace, it was in fact a place where men could meet women and have sex. I can remember paul feeling inadequate when he was at the playboy mansion and feeling im part of it now. But in reality youre looking only through a gate. Paul snider fits into the playboy mansion like a pair of brown shoes in a room full of tuxedoes. Hey, hef, got this idea. Isnt this great . I got that idea. Im sure that he was trying to do that. Hef was kind of rolling his eyes to himself and going, god, i got to listen to this guy. But he was polite. Dorothy was a ticket to something that he wanted. It was a connection with hollywood. It was a connection with playboy. It was a connection with celebrity. Paul was a weak man. Paul couldnt take it. Paul had to be more. Paul seemed to be like a promoter. He had done, like, a Farrah Fawcett lookalike contest, or a John Travolta lookalike contest. I got a call from paul. And he said, max. He said, i have an idea for something. And id like to talk to you about it. And i said, what is this about . And he said, well, this is about male dancers. I said, dancers. What kind of dancers . He said, male strippers. I said, is this for, like, a gay joint or Something Like that . He says, no, no, no. He says, ill talk to you about it when i get there. He was the founder, or had the idea of chippendales, which at the time was a great idea. And the fact that the chippendale dancers have the cuffs and collars that are exactly the same as the playboy bunnies came directly from paul. Because dorothy was working as a bunny at the playboy club. Paul was one of those kind of idiot savants. He knew what people liked. He was a pretty good promoter. And that was the only good idea that i ever heard him say. It was a monumental success. He had a gift. He had a lot of gifts. Paul was not a soft banana. But also you have to understand that just having the idea is different than bringing the idea off. It went nowhere under his guidance. But then of course became huge, huge business for chippendales. The partners that he was involved with took the idea, liked the idea, and then kicked him out of it. So he said that he got ripped off on that. He wanted to win. He just didnt know how to win. And thats why he used other people. It didnt take a Rocket Scientist to see that this was a sleazy guy. You got the heebiejeebies. He was creepy. He would be in the grotto trying to make out with other girls. And you have the most beautiful girl at the mansion. And youre a scumbag. Security caught him with another girl. So they kicked him off the property. And the only time he could come up is if it was with her, otherwise he wasnt allowed. In the movie star 80, the scene that sticks with me the most is the moment that they walk into the mansion and him being so out of place and so oblivious to being out of place, and so wanting to be accepted there. God, i feel heffy and i are old friends, you know. I think we even have some mutual buddies. Is telly at this bash . Telly . Telly savales, hes an old pal. Ive seen that guy a million times. They will do anything to get this thing. Its just this raw hunger. And there are no boundaries. That is always a dangerous person. The fact of the matter is Playboy Magazine and hollywood and all kinds of Industries Need people like him. He was a guy out there, bottomfeeding and getting people that he ended up bringing to the playboy mansion. And the playboy mansion then basically said, thanks, well take it from here. When hef introduced her a real money manager and took the ability of him to have the checkbook away, it really affected him. He was not a happy camper. So paul was left out. Paul was not part of the package. I can remember paul kind of feeling like dorothy forgot about him, when he was, when they were up there. Hollywood is clearly trying to saw this guy off the gangplank. He was just a conduit to find her. There was an article saying, the unforgivable sin of paul was that he was smalltime. And thats the theme of the movie star 80, hes too smalltime, and he knows it, and it makes him crazy, and it leads to dorothys destruction. But after we had roman, we wanted to move closer to home. I found this job as an area manager on linkedin. They were recruiting veterans with my experience. I applied, and i ended up getting the job. Im starting a new chapter in my life and its all about family. Starting a business means i have to be well rested, every night of the month. Always overnight pads have up to a 2x larger back for up to 10 hours of protection. It catches leaks, so you can catch zzzzs. 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And then in 79 playboy did an hourlong special for the Abc Television Network Featuring the Village People and richard dawson, who was then the host of family feud. Playboy has clearly already decided that there is Something Special about Dorothy Stratten. Hey, dorothys coming. Ill bet you 100 shell pretend not to see me. So dorothy is kind of the ingenue thats being pushed as the star of tomorrow, even throughout this wacky little playboy special. I couldnt believe how little actually happens in this special, and how little they felt like needed to happen. I will say she gets up there with victor willis, the lead singer of the Village People, and she kind of drops to the ground. And you go, okay, okay. You didnt learn that in vancouver. Well, she was already a star with playboy and then the abc roller disco and that was on National Television and then that started steamrolling in to other movie parts. Her move into movies is very rapid. Its small in the beginning, tiny parts, but considering from the moment in 1978 where the photographs were taken, you know, by 1979 or 1980 shes starring in hollywood pictures. Ive done it for you. I love you, sergeant thor. She plays galaxina, who is this perfect female robot. Sexy, but you cant actually have sex with her. Perfect only as a tool to the men around her. Galaxina. She became sought after by basically every man in the world, even if it was only in their minds. And a lot of them said, i want to know her. I want to hold her hand. I want to touch her. I want a picture with her. A lot of men were entering my life all of a sudden and a lot of them wanted me. No one was ever pushy or forceful, but talk can be very powerful, especially to a mixedup little girl. She couldnt believe that all this was happening to her. And every minute there was something new and exciting. And people were fawning all over her. Paul snider would say, were on a rocket ship to the moon its like we, we, we. He saw her Business Career beginning to increase and improve, and the volume of attention and agents calling and wanting to sign her, and now she has a hollywood agent. Does she really need him now . She was the meal ticket. He loved her fame, but he was jealous because he was afraid that he could lose her, which he did. At this point, he was pressing dorothy to marry him, thinking that she would then support them and they would have a lifetime bargain. And i immediately said, live with him. Dont marry him. But she, she loved paul, and she cared about him, and felt very much gratitude towards him. She came to me very much as she might to her father and told me that she was going to marry paul. I urged her against it, but i did it gently because i really thought it would be inappropriate for me to say what i really felt. And so over the disapproval of the playboy empire she married paul snider. When they got married we were kind of like, really . What is she thinking . People were just like, no. This cant be happening, she did not marry this guy. Everybody was upset. There wasnt one person who was happy for her. He pushed her to marry him, she, i dont think, really wanted to. Pressure, she felt that she owed him that. So she just kept hoping for the best. Now he had a subtle handcuff on her. At the very worst, if she got popular and he got divorced hes getting something. Dorothy saw the good in everybody. But paul scared me, cause he had that need to control. As a woman, i knew that he was dangerous. And somehow or other, she didnt see that. I wonder if people really marry for love, maybe its loneliness or maybe its just that they dont want to be left out. So the nearest person of the opposite sex or the same sex that pays any amount of attention at first is good enough, and each one is content that they wouldnt do any better. 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He was an opportunist, and hes looking for ways to make money. I thought she would be playmate of the hear. Hefner wanted her but not him. I think for paul, losing dorothy to peter was, like, the ultimate insult. When youre comparing filet mignon to a hot dog on a theres a big difference. Paul did not want to lose dorothy. She drove to his house. All of us said, dont go. She parked her car out front, went in, and never came out. This is the hollywood dream gone wrong. Dorothy stratten has become someone who represents all manner of things. Power between men and women, sexual exploitation, the kind of fundamental notion of the fantasy factory in hollywood and how it exploits people. Dorothy is photographed a number of times by playboy. She is photographed to be a playmate in 79 and then the playmate of the year for 1980. When the editor of playboy told me that i had won playmate of the year, the first thing out of my mouth was, are you sure . I mean, if you think about it she was 17 when she was in vancouver at the dairy queen. And then all of a sudden she becomes playmate of the year in 1980. And so in those few years she had a monumental splash. And she was so excited to be playmate of the year. She was very excited. In the documentary, shes at the playboy mansion. Theyre announcing her centerfold. Im sure this has been many a girls dream. During that particular day it was clear that there was trouble between her and paul. She was kind of avoiding him. So theres a shot in this documentary that was done in the 80s where she is sitting at this table next to one of her coworkers. And hes sitting next to her. And you can see him grab onto her hand. And she sort of squeezes it but then shes also sort of pulling away. And i think he wanted to be able to stand by her to go like, you know, yeah, im the one that brought her here, kind of a thing. Well, it was way beyond that. Theres pictures of it. And its in the documentaries of the things that playboy did, where he was getting too close at the playmate of the year party. And dorothy had to wean him away. These are triggers. Its the smallest things that happen like that, that create the biggest darkness, this realizing that hes just nobody to anybody. There are shots of hefner talking to him also. Hefner never looked super comfortable to me. But he looks particularly uncomfortable in those shots. I dont know of anybody who moved that fast because ive been following the movie industry for many years. Hef gave dorothy what her husband and she wanted. And that was to be playmate. And then she was playmate of the year. And she got a lot of money for that. I got a 65,000 russian fur sable coat. Oh, i didnt see that one here. A 26,000 jaguar, and a 25,000 check. A 15,000 diamond necklace, a diamond ring, a handbuilt brass bath tub worth 13,000. So many things i could hardly remember. See, thats not a bad deal. No, its not a bad deal. He calls me on the phone and he says, max, i want to show you all the stuff that dorothy got for being playmate of the year. He would go through each one of them and say, what do you think i could get for this one . What do you think i could get for this one . And i remember the tub was a big, beautiful, you know, like gold fixtures on it. A standalonetype tub. It was just a beautiful tub. But he wanted to sell everything. When dorothy made a little money, based on her being playmate of the year, he took that money and tried to buy a hot car for himself, not for her. Pulled her off the set of a movie and tried to get her to approve all this money. I think he really thought, this is mine. He wanted ownership of her. He wanted to say that he owned something. That he did something. I think he thought he made her. It didnt say anywhere in the magazine that you were married, did it . No. How does your husband feel about this . About your playmate of the year . Hes very encouraging. Hes very proud of me. Its great for his ego. Yeah, i suppose. She was always subservient to his wishes. I know that he made certain demands. And whether she was happy or not, she would do it. Marilyn grabowski, i think, would say to her, you are responsible for the success. He didnt develop anything in you. You were always this person. He was just the first to recognize it. Dont think he gave you anything. You always had it. That was her message to dorothy. By the time she became playmate of the year, dorothy was pretty confident in herself. And she could say, no. No, paul. This is not im not doing this. She grew a pair, yes. She did. While dorothy was slowly leaving him, he was trying to find new hustles and new ways to do things. He kept trying to promote young women as playmates. I was actually working in a Grocery Store then, and finishing high school. He was telling me that his wife was playmate of the year. And that i was really pretty. And that i should consider doing playboy sometime. But of course i wasnt old enough yet. He was hoping patty could turn into Something Like dorothy, as a matter of fact. Its probably becoming inescapable to him that unless he gets her back on his side or finds somebody else, this hollywood dream is over. He managed to find Dorothy Stratten, who really was actually very good at all of the skills that you needed in order to be a fantastic playmate. You cannot just pick off any other girl and then assume that you can groom her into being that same person. Nothing against patti. She was an attractive young lady but turning anybody into a Dorothy Stratten is a pipe dream. Dorothy stratten was once in a lifetime. Are you going into movies . Is this the logical its not logical for a playmate or playmate of the year to go in to the movie business. But so many doors are opened to them that they have a very good chance. A lot of the girls are married when they become a playmate. Youre married arent you . Mmhmm. I know that there were a lot of fights and lot of problems. He wanted to own stuff. He wanted to rip things apart that werent working, and control the things that were. They both started to have other lives. And being the kind of possessive man he was, he didnt want her to have this other life. In one session in particular, i do remember we were interrupted, she left the room or the studio. Went into a room, locked herself in for about five to ten minutes. Came out. Started crying. I asked her what was wrong. We found out later that she was talking to paul. And she was very upset with that conversation. Of course it was maybe a month before she was killed. As she started to slip away, he started to realize he owned nothing. He wasnt doing anything. Nobody was admiring him. Hugh hefners not going to call him back. And then this deep, deep, deep, freaky thing that was going on inside of him took control. And he lost it. 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That had won tatum oneal an oscar. It kind of looks like he can do no wrong. So that combination of hubris and the times creates a guy who is somewhat successful, but also too big for his britches. Peter bogdanovich has made a movie in color. He was a real ladies man. He left his wife for Cybill Shepherd during the filming the last picture show. By the mid70s, hes down on his luck. He cant get any projects, he and shepherd are breaking up, and he starts to hang around the playboy mansion and thats when Dorothy Stratten meets Peter Bogdanovich. Hef and peter were extremely close. When youre comparing, you know, filet mignon to a hot dog on a stick, theres a big difference. He ostensibly sees someone he wants to cast for a part in his movie. Oh, its just a small role, but you would be perfect. She was so mesmerizing. When he met her, he was compelled to actually take a role and create it for her. When i met dorothy i thought it would be great to have her in the picture. So the movie evolved and i went to los angeles and wrote it. This was a cinderella story. He was, like, picking her up from just being this nobody, and elevating her to be the queen of hollywood. Ms. Stratten is with us this morning. Good morning, dorothy. Good morning. Dorothy thought, let Peter Bogdanovich make her into what paul couldnt make her into. Im in the middle of another movie right now that im shooting in new york, called they all laughed. With Peter Bogdanovich is directing, audrey hepburn, and ben gazzara starring. Do you have some talking parts . Oh, i have a costarring role. Oh, good, good. Hes valuing her in a different way than just, lets get more of these nude photographs. She had a kind of glow and the way she talked. The way she moved. Her laugh. I remember driving her to the airport to start filming and she was very excited. Director Peter Bogdanovich is in new york city to shoot his new comedy, they all laughed. Peter wanted to make a love story in new york about how falling in love could be a mistake. The john ritter character in the movie is modeled on bogdanovich and he cast Dorothy Stratten as the object of his desire. Being in love with dorothy is what inspired the picture and i think it has the feeling of being in love, the picture. Are you okay . Im very well, thank you. How are you . It has a certain sparkle to it that none of my other pictures have had. They all laughed was absolutely a movie about peter. It was very autobiographical. She and ritter have dialogue where he goes, will you marry me . She goes, yes. As soon as my divorce comes through. Will you marry me. Okay, i will. You will . Well, yes. After my divorce. Those were the words that Peter Bogdanovich was happier to write than any he ever wrote before or since. There was fireworks. And i could tell that he was crazy about her. She moves, essentially, out of the hotel shes staying in for production, and moves in with him. They try to keep it secret, but the world finds out theyre in love. I was in love with her the way i have never have been before or since. It just seemed like we had wings. Every little thing had power. When i heard that she was, you know, having this affair with him, i wasnt happy, really. He did confide in me that he was madly in love with her. And i just cautioned him. I said, peter, be really careful because you have no idea who this guy is that she is separated from. I knew she was unhappy in her marriage and i knew her husband was a bit of a pain in the thats all i knew. Rosanne katon, a friend of mine, approached me on the set about paul being a potentially dangerous person. Colleen said, well, what do you think of paul . And i just said, i think hes, like, really bad news. She said that this guy is not going to let dorothy go. I just knew that he was capable of doing harm, and that peter should be really careful, because i think hes the kind of guy that could kill him. I think the minute dorothy got interested in peter, paul felt like he got left behind, like he got shafted. For paul, losing dorothy to Peter Bogdanovich was, like, the ultimate insult, because peter in his own way was a much bigger paul. He had discovered a star, just like when paul found dorothy at the dairy queen, she was nothing. When a person knows theyre inadequate, and they can feel that inside but they wont say anything and they try and put up a front. He probably did that. He put his best face on, when really inside he was probably crying. He was injured, bruised, and cut with a sharp knife in his soul and heart. Paul veered into that dark place, you just didnt know how it would manifest itself. But you knew it was coming. Shes becoming more independent. People are helping her become more independent. He got the dear john letter as proof that he was losing her. She just said that she doesnt think that the marriage is working right. And she doesnt want to hurt him. There was no in her. As far as i was concerned, my limited knowledge of her, no paul started telling me, i cant get through. And peter was telling her to fire all their people that represent her and have his people represent her. Hes starting to control her and take over for her. Lawyers, agents. She got bogdanovichd. Gone. Pauls last hope for a big score was a project begun a month or so before he and dorothy were married. He had worked out a deal with dorothy. They would print a poster that they hoped would sell a million copies and net 300,000. He figures this is his one last kind of attempt to cash in on her. Peter was very against her doing this poster, and he felt that she was being used by paul. So we hop on a plane, fly to new york. She opened the door and saw them and she said, oh, my god. What are you doing here . I said, we want to show you this poster, you know. We talked about it with paul, and all that. She took it with her inside the room, comes out moments later. 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In other words, she went from being naive to be able to see what he was. Even now, looking back on those videos, i see this desperate boy, paul snider, who wanted to be hugh hefner. He needed her to make him. He was a eunuch. He got his balls from her success. He didnt have any balls. I never saw him naked, but id have bet he didnt have any. She moves into bogdanovichs house. But shes trying to figure out some way to settle with him. All of us were pretty happy when we heard dorothy was gonna divorce paul. We were happy for her. I think by that time, it was pretty well established that they were going their separate ways. At least in her mind. Snider expected that he would receive 50 of everything she did from that point forward because he was the one, he was the creator. He looked at this as not her being a human being, but her being a commodity. I dont know if paul was capable of real love. Theres those people out there that theyre just, theyre users. They dont have a capacity to love enough to let someone go for their own good. People begin to tell dorothy, you never have to see him again. This can all be handled by people. Clean as a whistle. But she didnt think that was right, for some reason. He had a meeting with her and she said, hey, we can work this out. Were going to have a separation. And maybe we can still be friends. Theres a way i can take care of you. And there might be some settlement. Itll be okay, paul, because youre the one. Youre the reason im here. And itll be fine. My understanding, talking to people who knew her, that she was compassionate. And that she wanted to make this as easy as possible for snider. That was a revealing moment to me because it said that deep down, she was worried about his welfare. Hes listening to that. Hes not hearing any of those words. Hes hearing abandonment. Looking on hindsight, probably there should have been an attorney negotiating with paul and giving him some money to walk away. He had lost his ticket to his life in california. His whole world was crumbled. Paul was distraught. He was sad. He was like, gosh, she didnt even tell me she loved me or kiss me. There were times when he talked to me and he would start crying. He would sit on the couch and play his guitar. And he had wrote songs to dorothy. Those who saw him during the five days prior to the murder caught only glimpses of odd behavior. In retrospect they appear to form a pattern of intent. He was preoccupied with guns. It was after dorothy confessed to him that she loved bogdanovich, and wanted to make a financial settlement with him, that he first started talking about the guns. Paul had borrowed a. 38 revolver and had gone to Peter Bogdanovichs home. Why would you give a crazy guy going through a divorce, angry at his wife, why would you give him a gun . His transition was, first he went to the house and scouted and was a peeping tom, if you will. Hes replaying his choice of thoughts. Thats a dangerous road. Hes not a happy person. Very angry, very upset. Thats what drives him, his pain. So now here he is wondering, how do i handle this . All my friends think im a loser. And my girls screwing around on me with another guy. Its humiliating. So what do i do here . He sat outside the gate of peters mansion for two hours apparently with a gun in his hands. There was a belief that he was going to kill himself. I dont know how accurate that is. But i know that he did go up there. And he got tired of waiting. They, by luck, avoided that situation. Paul snider was at a point where he was willing to sacrifice everything versus losing control. And thats when he was perpetual motion was at full rpm, going as fast as he could. First, a friend of him lends him a. 38 caliber pistol. But the friend then decides to take it back. 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Were petsmart. The day of the murder, dorothy decided against everyones direction to go to paul and try to negotiate a payment settlement with him. All of us said, dont go. Go home. Go back to where you were. Dont go there. Hef and peter kind of forbid her from going to see him. They forbid it. She had to sneak. She had to lie. Nobody knew she was going there except a few people. She never told peter that she was going to paul sniders that day. But she just misjudged that guy so badly. She just had that little flaw that was her flaw. Not being able to see the evil in people. So she drove to his house and met with him there. Parked her car out in front, went in and never came out. He had already had it all planned and brought her to his house, made sure his roommates were gone. I believe i left in the morning, because she was supposed to be there around noon or so. It was the worst day in my life. It was a thursday that ill never forget. The doctor had the upstairs with a bedroom, and paul and dorothy had the downstairs and the back of the house. I saw her car was there. I went in the house, and her purse was on the stairs. I remember patti saying that she had arrived sometime that afternoon. Stephen has a dog, too, which was in the backyard. I guess the dog was barking a lot. Patti and i were watching television and talking. They hear sniders phone going and nobody answering the phone. Stephen was sitting up there. And he goes, its so weird. I havent even heard the toilet flush. Finally, after many, many hours, one of the roommates convinces the doctor to open the door. We knocked on the door. Stephen did the knock, like kind of knock, and no answer. I then opened the door. The first thing you see is paul laying on the carpet. But instead of a whole head, its like his head is, like, this thick, because he blew the whole front of his face off. She was sort of against the fire wall. They were both naked. Shes dead. Hes dead. It looked like it was a horror movie, a staged horror movie, like, mannequins and fake blood. Thats a picture that never goes away, a mental picture thats stuck in here forever. Were you in the house when the bodies were discovered . Yes. You were . Yes. Were you in the house when the shooting occurred . No. You were not . No. Its a brutal murder. And scary. Very, very scary. She was violently raped by paul before he killed her. I think that if you look at the control factor of forcing sex upon her, i think thats all a part of his regaining his position of power. I think it was more realizing that he had no future without her and didnt want anyone else to have a future without her. Snider apparently shot stratten in the face with a 12gauge shotgun. Shooting someone in the face, obliterating the most familiar thing about her. The sort of entry point to her stardom, just completely demolishing, not just ending her life, but preventing anyone from ever looking at her again. Thats what he did. I think there was a moment there that he really realized what had happened. But it just seemed to me, at one point, he knew he had to kill himself. There was nothing left. He shot himself in the left temple. Right behind his eyes. And killed him instantly. He knew, by taking her, he was done. So he also took himself. What a weakling. He ultimately had to do what he did and basically to hefner, to bogdanovich, everybody else, to society in general, put up not one but two middle fingers and say, thats what you get for messing with paul snider. There was one photo taken that fosse copied as the last shot of the movie. It was the overhead shot. That was shot from the crime scene. What stood out was the smallness of our lives, two little limp bodies all bloodless, lying there together. Were all so insignificant when were done. And they werent supposed to be, especially her. Come on. Nkles and theres nothing you can do about it . 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Part of him died. Part of all of us died, because dorothy was special to us. I remember driving in the limo with hef to the funeral and i remember his take on life and death. He said, you know, its the luck of the draw. Bogdonavich is desperate. He fell apart in every respect. He wrote the inscription thats on her grave. He chose it from ernest hemingway, a farewell to arms. Its poignant and a little disturbing. It talks about how the world will kill you. How pure yourself is, the world will kill you all the same. No one wanted to see a movie in which its charming ingenue had brutally murdered. So he took the tragic decision of taking it back from its exhibitor and attempting to distribute it himself. It went through all of this money. It was really traumatic and tragic. There was so many things that he just wanted to not lose, that he wanted to control because he certainly couldnt control what had just happened. Five years after her death he publishes a book about stratten. I think the killing of the unicorn was a way for him to sort out what had happened and look at it almost like a murder mystery. How did this event happen . He went after hugh hefner with both barrels. Dorothy, when she got to hollywood, found herself maneuvered by hefner in to a sexual situation that she found very shocking and in fact it traumatized her. For the record, did you seduce her . No, i didnt and for the record i never tried to. Hef was so devastated, its truly what led to his stroke. I remember being up there for a Big Press Conference and he was indignant. Dorothys tragic death was motivated not in any way by her assoation wi pyboy, but clearly by the with Peter Bogdanovich. What a bizarre spectacle. It was just all guys yelling at guys about women. How crazy. And so you got this jockeying of these two very powerful, very bigname men in hollywood who were carrying tremendous guilt and grief about dorothys death. One of the tacit tenets of playboy philosophy, that women can be possessed, had found a fervent adherent in paul snider. He had bought the dream without qualification, and he thought of himself as perhaps one of playboys most honest apostles. Teresas story would say two things that playboy didnt like. One was that hefner was frustrated with the fact that his playmates didnt become stars. The other thing was, and this was the unforgivable thing to say if you were playboy, was that what paul snider did to Dorothy Stratten in the final minutes of her life was just the extreme of the whole playboy continuum. It would seem that these were kind of lonely people, i mean, trying to have a relationship with somebody whos on a piece of paper. Sure, sure. How do you feel about that . Well, im happy to make them happy. Peter supported the family for years. He had tremendous guilt. And so, when news later came that Peter Bogdanovich and when i think of what my imagination looks like. 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Would you like to be just like your sister when you grow up . Yeah. Why . cause her. Peter always took care of the hoogstraten family after dorothy died. Peter supported the family for years. He had tremendous guilt and sadness. Whats funny about the years after, we didnt see much of them. But we heard that the mother and the daughter were living at bogdanovichs house. Hes always just helped our family in family matters. And helped me get through the pain and sorrow. He paid for their rent. He sent louise to school. He said, if id married dorothy, this would be my family. So i wasnt going to stop being their family because she was dead. He was really there for me and some sort of connection i had with him. And he became a lot of roles in my life. It seemed natural to gravitate towards dorothys sister. It didnt seem unusual. We both felt blasted, so we kind of helped each other. That grew to be another kind of love. Peter eventually married Louise Stratten when she was 20 years old. They were on the boat of grief together. Because only one person in the world understands what youre feeling. When i heard that Peter Bogdonavich had married dorothys sister, it made me very sad for her. It wasnt gonna last. Because she was so young. In 2001, 13 years after they got married, Louise Stratten filed for divorce from Peter Bogdanovich. I think its really interesting that the relationship that he developed with louise, it was a real relationship. It continues to this day. Theyre business partners. They produce movies together. It wasnt like this was just some passing guilt phase. He has stayed close and connected and in love with that family ever since he met dorothy. Whether or not Dorothy Stratten would have fulfilled her extravagant promise cant be known. She was only 20, so young. So young. In the end Dorothy Stratten was less memorable for herself than for the yearning she evoked. In snider, a lust for the score. In hefner, a longing for a star. In bogdanovich, a desire for the eternal ingenue. Where does ones career go from here . Are you worried that you have to make it quickly . I think the acting career, actually, cant be taken too quickly. Because if you rush things and you make the wrong decisions, it could be over very quickly. The real tragedy of dorothys life is that she couldnt live long enough to really ever tell her own story. She never was able to say, okay, this is what got me here but now these are the things that i want to be. Heres who i actually am. The rays of the sun are slowly shining brighter. The evening will be forever yet time was not enough. Her life cut short at just 20 years old. She never got the chance to define herself. Thats 20 20 for tonight. Im david muir. And im amy robach. For all of us at 20 20 and abc news, good night