You know, another fun thing you can do, too, is weve taken this log of creamy goat cheese and weve actually covered it in chopped parsley and some poppy seeds and a little bit of lavender flower. Mmhmm. And so thats a great way to kind of flavor something that is very creamy and has, like, a very natural, earthy flavor profile to it. Now, i got to ask you, salt and honey catering, thats your own business. Tell us about how that came to be, olivia. You know, it was it was a lot of hard work and kind of a dream. I was an avid home cook. I worked in restaurants in front of house but never in back of house, really. And so it, you know, learning every aspect of the business washing dishes, doing all of my own production, learning how to order. Its a labor of love. Mmhmm. I love what i do. All of the folks that ive been blessed to work with love what they do. Theyre very passionate. And its been such a great opportunity to really push myself and try something and work to be successful at it. Now i have one really important question. I know whenever im doing one of these plates, i never know how much cheese and meats to purchase. Is there a rule of, you know, 1 4 pound for every person . Or how does that work out . Yeah, so, i would say 2 1 2 to 3 ounces of each item per person. So, we have some crackers and some crostini, and these are things you can definitely add on to the board, you know, just to add some, like, visual interest and texture, as well. Again, texture is, like, the big thing with all of these different styles of boards. Or, you know, you can put it off to the side, but however you want it to be. Ooh we forgot the goat cheese. Yeah, do you want one for yours . Sure. Im just gonna put that guy right here in the corner. And this is the cheddar . Yes. That is the clothbound cheddar. Its aged 18 months. And then, uh. And all of this is local, too, so you can get it at most of your local Grocery Stores or at the farmers market, whatever works. That tastes so good. Yeah, isnt it good . All were missing is a glass of wine. Oh, man. I mean, we are at a winery. I know, we can fix that, cant we . [ laughs ] thank you so much, olivia. Thank you, lizzie. Theres so much to explore in the bay area, so well be back with more stories to share. In the meantime, we want to hear from you, so send us your favorite places, pictures, and videos of the bay area. Visit us online, join us on facebook, and follow us on twitter. All of this fun driven by your Northern California honda dealers. For more information on the vehicle featured in this episode, visit norcalhondadealers. Com. Im the one clocking in when youre clocking out. Sensing your every move and automatically adjusting to help you stay effortlessly comfortable. I can also help with this. Does your bed do that . Oh. I dont actually talk. Though im smart enough to. Im the new sleep number 360 smart bed. Lets meet at a sleep number store. Caregiver, theyre forced to piece together a life largely from donations, disability payments and Child Support from gypsys dad. A turning point seems to be when the family gets this home located at the aptly named intersection of hope road and volunteer way. I remember my mother gave me this little glass house and said one day this will be real and now it finally is. The blanchards moved into that house, built by habitat for humanity. A wheel chair ramp was built just for her. She was like one of the happiest people i had ever met and yet she was the most sick that i had ever met at the same time. Reporter in between hospital stays, gypsy frequently jetsets across the country. Ball games, galas, even disney world. Make a wish, they were taking her down to orlando, all expenses paid. Hi, everybody. Right now im in cinderellas castle. Eating some real mashed potatoes. Mmmm reporter she even got to meet country superstars Miranda Lambert and then husband blake shelton. Miranda lambert came to springfield two times and i think she gave dee dee and gypsy money. Reporter yes, she did. Look at this 3500 check from the singers personal account. But that wasnt all. Check her out posing with her favorite actors elijah wood and sean astin from lord of the rings. No no that sounds like a really awesome life, but, i mean, again, like, i mean, it, its not worth like what condition her health was in. Reporter but in private gypsy just wants to be regular teen and find love according friend and neighbor aleah woodmansee. She would show interest in like different boys and try to ask me advice on like, you know, how, how do you approach them . How do you like kiss a boy . Aleah says mom dee dee didnt approve of the girl talk. She said my daughter has the mentality of a child. Like youre talking to her about teenage girl things. Reporter but gypsy ignores her mother going behind her back and sets up this Online Dating profile. She soon connects with this man and pours out her soul. I need to tell you something. Im no model i have a medical condition, so i cant walk. I have a chair i use. Is that an issue . Why would that be a problem . You are an angel in my eyes. It will never make any difference in how i see u from the inside out. Reporter and with a few strokes of the keyboard, a secret online relationship blooms. But when we come back mother and daughter are nowhere to be found. Oh my gosh, somebody has kidnapped gypsy. Reporter the little pink house becomes a crime scene. Things arent as they always appear. Next. Reporter two of springfield, missouris most renown and revered citizens, Gypsy Blanchard and her mother dee dee taking center stage. I believe there are angels among us reporter at a relay of life event to raise money for the american cancer society. The reason i was born to be a mom. Reporter but the sickly and often secluded gypsy believes she too has found her guardian angel. Not at home in her mother, but online with a man. Nick godejohn. She was in love with him. She thought that he was going to be the prince that came and finally saved her. And got her out of her locked tower and theyd live happily ever after. Reporter look at some of the messages the lovestruck teenager sends a friend about her prince charming. I met a wonderful guy. Hes my first boyfriend. He gives me poems and is so romantic. She was talking about this new guy that she was now in love with, and that they had met on a christian dating site and that they were already planning on naming their children after him. We want a snow wedding in a gazebo with red and white roses. Honestly, what i was thinking whenever i saw these messages, is that these were just like fantasies and dreams. Reporter but on their shared facebook page, the harsh reality is what people saw. Dee dee presented as a very doting mother. This was her child. She knew she was sick, and she was just going to love her. Unconditionally, until she couldnt anymore. Reporter but then comes the day when Family Friends kim and david are horrified. When something very different popped up on gypsy and dee dees facebook page. A very vulgar post. It said the bitch is dead. I, instantly took it as, their facebook account had gotten hacked. Then we saw the second one, which said, and i raped her sweet daughter, too. Reporter kim and david race to the little pink house. No one seems to be home, but their new car is in the driveway. We circled the house, knocked on all the doors and windows. I called the police and let them know that we needed a Wellness Check done on a disabled mother and daughter. And they said that they would send somebody out. Breaking news. The body of 48yearold Dee Dee Blanchard has been found. Gypsy is still missing this morning. You just cant forget the pink house with the wheelchair ramp. I see a stretcher coming out of the house and theres sheet over the body and i just started sobbing. We found Dee Dee Blanchard deceased and of a violent nature. Still actively looking for gypsy. Then we really panicked because oh, my gosh, somebody has kidnapped gypsy. Tell me about the moment when you heard that something happened to dee dee and that gypsy was missing. I was shocked. Couldnt understand it. Why would somebody do this to this child . No wheelchair. No medication. They gonna just leave her for dead. Reporter authorities move quickly and hit pay dirt when they trace the ip address of those profane facebook posts to a small house 600 miles away in big bend, wisconsin, at the home of Nick Godejohn. Gypsys boyfriend. Who is Nick Godejohn . Hes functions at about 15 or 16yearold. He is a kid that is similar to gypsy from the standpoint of not really having a normal social interaction history that most kids wouldve had up to that point. They go to the house. Theres some standoff for a period of time. They have to bring the s. W. A. T. Team there. Reporter when authorities enter the home they take both into custody. We started hearing from various sources, that gypsy wasnt a victim. She wasnt kidnapped, that she was actually involved in this somehow. It was beyond shocking. We have located gypsy in another state. She is okay. We do have another person of interest in custody. Im detective hancock. Your mom is dead, okay . Now what i want to ask you, did you have involvement in this . Wait, go back. What . What happened with your mom that night . I dont know what happened to my mom. Why dont you just tell me. Just listen to me, okay, sweetheart . You know what happened to your mom, okay . You know exactly. Im not going to play around with this. Sir, i didnt do anything reporter while gypsy keeps mum in the interrogation room, what does the other one say. From what she told me, her mom kicked her out of her house. Reporter what happens next leaves everyone in springfield stunned in the newsroom its just chaos. Okay, this story has completely done a 180. I bet my mouth was reporter and, what a transformation youll hear from gypsy herself, next. Somesend you and your family overwhelrunning. Y can. Introducing febreze one for fabric and air. No aerosols. No dyes. No heavy perfumes. It cleans away odors for a pure light freshness. So you can spray and stay. Febreze one, breathe happy. Sailing the seas day and night. They knew where they were going, by watching the clouds move in the sky or the way their boats rocked. Thats how the waves and stars would speak to them. Guide them. Sometimes, you can find your way in the world, by getting lost in it. Let your legend begin at aulani, a oneofakind Disney Resort in hawaii this is the house where clauddina blanchard was found stabbed to death. It set off a roller coaster story. What would drive gypsy to plan the murder of her own mother . Gypsy Rose Blanchard could be the most unlikely murder suspect ever. A supposed paraplegic suffering from muscular dystrophy, epilepsy, leukemia, and confined to wheelchair. Is now under arrest both she and her boyfriend nick charged with killing her mother. People were saying well, maybe she was tricked into doing this. She met somebody online. He wanted to take her away and the mother wouldnt let her. They fought. Somehow the mother was killed. The prevailing thought that she was really innocent. The princess outfits now replaced with an orange jumpsuit. My vision was still of this fragile little girl and that was, that was shattered. It was hard to wrap your brain around. How can this young sick girl who cant walk be involved in her mothers death . It was shocking beyond shocking. Things are not always as they appear. Reporter the people of springfield might think they are witnessing a miracle, when astonishingly check out her appearance in court. Yes, thats her walking. No wheelchair. No signs of distress. Not even a limp. Gypsy crying through the proceedings and shocking many of those who knew her because she was walking and not using a wheelchair. I still did not want to believe that she could walk when they showed her on the news. In fact, i rewound it and played it, multiple times, because thats not who we knew. Just when you thought the Deedee Blanchard murder case couldnt get any stranger. Weve covered stories where you find out that someone you thought was so sweet, and innocent, and turns out theres a different side, but it was like a prize fight, where its just one hit after the other. I was happy she was walking. Big red flags. I felt so stupid. If she can walk, what else have we been lied to about . Later we will show you the astounding extent of those lies. But one thing that is real, her voice. That voice is something you dont forget. There were comparisons to cartoon characters saying that she was forcefully talking like a baby it sounded a little like maybe she had had some helium. Reporter take a listen, as gypsy calls her father from jail. Daddy, i understand that we havent had a chance to get close in a long time, probably my whole life. I have a lot of questions, obviously. You know, im confused. The stuff they say in the news is horrible and not true. You know i love my mama and you know that i would never hurt her. Just know that im innocent and know that im still your little girl. At her arraignment gypsy enters a plea of not guilty to her mothers murder. We are here in missouri and driving to visit gypsy rose in prison. The big question, is she a murderer or a victim . When she walks in to the meeting room, im immediately struck by her radically changed appearance. She has long curly hair, makeup and her once frail frame has filled out. She tells me about the genesis of that relationship with Nick Godejohn. Meeting him online and quickly falling in love. Even hatching an illfated plan to introduce him to over protective deedee at a screening of cinderella. How did it go . Awful. Oh, my god. She got jealous, because i was spending a little too much attention on him and, she had ordered me to stay away from him and needless to say that was a very long argument that lasted a couple weeks. An argument that lasted a couple of weeks. What does that look like . Yelling, throwing things, calling me names. Bitch, slut, whore. Did you hate your mother at that point . I didnt hate her. You wanted her dead. Yes, but it was not because i hated her, it was because i wanted to escape her. Gypsy says while deedee took her to the hospital to have her feeding tube replaced, seen here the last known image of deedee alive. Nick traveled to springfield from wisconsin. Thats him checking into a local days inn motel. Where he waited for gypsy to give word deedee is asleep. The gonna go down tonight. Just the gloves and knife . Duct tape too, to muffle her ill pre cut it. How are you feeling . Honestly, terrified, but then i had taken some medication that was not prescribed to me to calm me down. Gypsy says she hands the items to nick and hides in the bathroom while he goes into the bedroom. Matching nicks story to police. Okay, ill admit it, i did actually stab her mom. I will admit it. So when youre stabbing deedee, where is she at . Shes on her stomach. Did she scream or holler . Yes, she did. What was she saying. First she said, help, and then she called up for gypsy, but gypsy didnt do anything. I heard her scream once, and there was more screaming but not like the kind in a horror film. Just like a startled scream, and she called out my name three or four times. And at that point, i wanted to go help her so bad, but i was so afraid to get up. Its like my body wouldnt move. Then everything just went quiet. Moments later the couple says they have sex on gypsys bed. Dee dees body in the room next door. Before taking a cab back to nicks motel and there they are, caught on surveillance cameras. Its disconcerting to see how quickly they were able to turn off any kind of impact from the murder. It seemed there was no effect on us. Hi. Gypsy then shoots video of them in the hotel room, hes naked in bed. Youre eating a brownie. This is just hours after gypsy heard her mother screaming for her help, and nicholas killed her. Its like they shut a door and that part of the life is over, and now were on to our new life. Were you afraid of getting caught . That never crossed my mind. I honestly didnt think we were going to get caught. Oh, but they did, captured time and again on video cameras every step documented in receipts and eyewitnesses. This is like a crime i call hansel and gretel, where you drop the clues along the way as you go. I mean, they couldnt have laid it out better for the police. Look at them at the Greyhound Bus counter. And here hopping into janice buttrams taxi cab. She was in a very dark black, black hoodie. But she had a very odd looking wig on, it was an old looking cher wig, which i found very unnormal, the girl looked 12, sounded 5 and had a 40yearold attitude. Because she was not afraid to tell me off. I just knew there was something wrong. Reporter it might seem like an open and shut case, but next we go inside the little pink house. It was filthy. The thing that shocked me the most was the closet inside gypsys house. And what is found behind this locked door might unlock more than a decade of deedees closely held secrets and hold the key to freeing gypsy. I was like, holy [ beep ], yall need to get over here right now and look at this. Reporter stay with us. Its just my eczema again,t. But its fine. Yeah, its fine. You ok . Eczema. Its fine. Hey hi arent you hot . Eczema again . Its fine. I saw something the other day. Eczema exposed. Your eczema could be something called atopic dermatitis, which can be caused by inflammation under your skin. Maybe you should ask your doctor . Go to eczemaexposed. Com to learn more. Im going to childrens mercy hospital. Reporter Gypsy Blanchard is caught in a web of secrets and lies. Even her age is in dispute. My medical insurance has 23. Okay, so how old, actually, are you . 19. Me and my mother are Hurricane Katrina survivors, and my birth certificate was washed away in katrina and unfortunately they messed up the paperwork. Reporter shes behind bars and charged with murdering her mother. 48yearold Dee Dee Blanchard. Known to the community as a lovely caregiver for a sickly gypsy. How did you go from this to this . I only see as a fall from grace. I thought, back then, that i was a good person. And now i just see it as that was a fraud and i made a horrible mistake. Reporter a horrible mistake, because it turns out that little pink house, on hope and volunteer way, was actually the nerve center from which the socalled doting mother perpetrated an elaborate scam, preying on the sympathies of countless good samaritans. We have unearthed the appearance of a long financial fraud scheme, along with this tragic event. Reporter celebrities, charities, even cartoon characters, all conned. I was disappointed that i had been duped. And thats why i caution anyone not to put money into their accounts until we kind of figure out the extent of their deception. What medical conditions did you believe you suffered from . Leukemia, asthma, both vision and hearing impaired, muscular dystrophy and seizures. Did you always know you could walk if you wanted to . Yes. She told you, you had to stay in a wheelchair when you could walk . How did she convince you to do that . I was so young. So, me looking up to her so much and just believing she knows best. I didnt question it. Did you believe you were sick . There are certain illness that i knew i didnt have. I knew that i didnt need the feeding tube. I knew that i could eat and i knew that i could walk. But i did believe my mother when she said that i had leukemia. Tell me about dee dee. What kind of mom was she . Very protective. You think she protected you . No. Not in in certain ways yes, in other ways no. I think that she was very sick in her mind. For a long time i believe, like, we were like best friends, and when i was younger she was my best friend. She was your only friend. Yes, other than my stuffed animals. And so i thought that she was a great mother. No complaints, we got along so perfect. You know, i saw her as an angel that can do no wrong. Reporter but as gypsy got older and became curious about life outside the little pink house, she says mom dee dee began exerting more control. What happens when she got upset with you . It would go into an argument that would last a couple days or it could be something where she wouldnt feed me for two days, or so. Was she ever physical with you . It started to be physical in 2011. She would hit me with a coat hanger sometimes. Did you ever fight back . No. Because i was too afraid to. Reporter gypsy says she did try and runaway once. But dee dee found her a few hours later. And, there were consequences. She physically chained you to the bed . She physically chained me to the bed. And put bells on the doors. And told anybody that i probably wouldve trusted that i was going through a phase. And to tell her if i was doing anything behind her back. Did you ever consider, in a public place, if you stood up out of your wheelchair and walked, dee dees fraud would be completely exposed . I honestly didnt think about that. It never crossed your mind . No. So, instead of planning an elaborate escape, you planned a murder. Yes. Reporter public defender Mike Stanfield has the extremely daunting task of coming up with a Legal Defense for gypsy. The evidence against her keeps mounting. In my 10 years of practice, this case by far had the most discovery that ive ever had. Close to 100 cds worth of papers, photos, and digital information. Reporter but its a field trip, along side gypsys dad and stepmom he says proves to be the most helpful. While the outside of gypsy house is pretty in pink, the inside a chaos of clutter. Frankly it was a disaster. There was stuff everywhere. I could tell dee dee did a lot of just, hoarding. Just stuff piled up. I mean like, chest high to the back of the room. One of the bedrooms had so many items piled into it that you couldnt even walk into it. Reporter but amongst the photos on the wall and the den of disorder, some clues. The thing that shocked me the most, the closet inside gypsys house. I was like, holy [ bleep ] yall need to get over here right now and look at this. I mean, my mouth dropped. From the top to the bottom, full of so many medications. Reporter this isnt your ordinary medicine cabinet. Its dee dees personal pharmacy. A large linen closest fully stocked. She had even written on several of the bottles of gypsys medication as if she was writing it for a child. For the antiseizure medication it would say, shaky baby. The organization of the medications that was shocking to me, because in every other area of dee dees life, it appeared that she had absolutely no organization or cleanliness. Except when it came to these medications. It let me know from the very beginning that something here was seriously wrong. Reporter wrong because it turns out not only can gypsy walk, she says shes never been sick not cancer. Not epilepsy, not anything. The only thing that i have wrong with me is i have a little bit of a lazy eye. Not all the time, but i have better vision in this eye than i do that eye. Thats it. Thats it . Thats it. Nothing else . Nothing else. Reporter when we come back, operations, hospital stays. More than 100 doctors. Did they fail her . Reporter how did they not see through her . Next. Jimmys gotten used to his whole yup, hes gone noseblind. Odors. He thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this. Luckily for all your hardtowash fabrics. Theres febreze fabric refresher. Febreze doesnt just mask, it eliminates odors youve. Gone noseblind to. And try Febreze Unstopables for fabric. With up to twice the fresh scent power, youll want to try it. Again and again and maybe just one more time. Indulge in irresistible freshness. Febreze unstopables. Breathe happy. They like taking pictures thats for sure. Reporter rod and Kristy Blanchard try to piece together the puzzle of his daughter gypsy hunting for clues in photographs and home videos. Heres the reason i was born. To be a mom. That makes me sick. Reporter to sort out fact from fiction. Do you think that dee dee came up with this idea. These movies created sympathy, which generated News Coverage which generated money and free things. This one right here i dont think she meant for anyone to see this. Im about to dive off our porch into the pile of snow. You ready . Because everyone can see she is clearly moving her legs. Reporter but those old pictures only begin to tell the story. Too many to count. Reporter the paper trail is where the really fresh breadcrumbs are in this hansel and gretel fairy tale. Hope kids, jasons dreams for kids, kids wish network, so she would actually look up foundations and stuff that she could hit up and get help with. This one says shes born in 95, Everything Else is correct except the year. You can totally tell she changed the date but she didnt change it here. So it was 91 and changed it to 92 and then to 95. She just wanted to make gypsy younger and younger. Reporter and thats not all dee dee forged located under her bed. Was the prescription pad that dee dee stole from the hospital. Reporter but while the paperwork might be fake, the pills and procedures were dreadfully real including multiple gastrointestinal operations, eye surgeries, even the removal of her salivary glands. Reporter medical records reviewed by abc news show gypsy was treated by at least 150 different doctors. Walk me through what that appointment would typically be like. I would have a doll or a stuffed animal that i would play with, and mom would say, um, you know, dont talk. Just play with your stuffed animal and well do something fun after. The one things that absolutely common across every single medical record is that gypsy never spoke. Every single medical record says, mother reported, mother states. History by mother. Brain scans, muscle scans, blood tests, cat scans. And you were perfectly healthy. So how would she get the doctors to understand, when none of it was true . She had a very sweet personality. Very convincing. She would call it a Southern Charm and she would use her Southern Charm to get them to be friendly and get on their good side. And then she had no records. No. Because of Hurricane Katrina wiped out all the records, supposedly. The biggest question was though, how was dee dee able to con the doctors . Reporter hospitals we contacted declined to comment but we tracked down one of her former neurologists dr. Bernardo flasterstein my initial assessment, i saw a girl, a 14 Year Old Girl that was sitting in a wheelchair. Reporter who examined her for muscular dystropy and Cerebral Palsy and immediately saw red flags. The testing didnt seem to show the same type of um, disabilities that gypsy should be showing. There was nothing there to support either. That kind of made me very suspicious. Reporter and his suspicion only grew when he told dee dee what should have been exciting news gypsys prior diagnoses were wrong. Reporter but the mother was not happy with that and when she left the office in a storm and told my nurses that i dont know what im talking about and that shes not coming back. Dr. Flasterstein, ultimately said, i believe that the mother suffers from munchausen by proxy. That was one of the things that, i believe he bolded and underlined in that letter. What is munchausen by proxy . Munchausen by proxy. Its essentially when a caregiver will fabricate an illness or induce an illness in their child in order to get medical care. Dr. Jamye coffman is a Board Certified child abuse pediatrician. Its abuse on the child, but its to obtain attention or some kind of secondary gain for themselves. Sometimes its financial. It can be. The most common, though, is actually emotional gain. I look at it kind of like an addict who needs that fix. When you have a suspicion and hard is caused to the child you can report that to social services and say, i have a suspicion. I at the time did not think that it had enough information just to call. Reporter dr. Flasterstein didnt Call Child Protective Services but someone later else did according to this Police Report obtained by 20 20 a doctor alerted authorities when he could not find any symptoms that support what dee dee alleges to be wrong with her daughter. Two case workers later did visit the blanchard home. But they found nothing out of the ordinary and closed the case. How was dee dee able to get away with this for so long . Most of the time, these mothers are pathologic liars. Theyre very difficult to detect. Theyre very manipulative. I think she probably did like most of these parents, these mothers. She moved around from doctor to doctor. They go to different hospitals and different institutions. Reporter thats exactly what she did after storming out of dr. Flastersteins office. She moved gypsys care 3 hours away to kansas city. Why did your mom do this . I think that she was constantly seeking attention for herself because she didnt feel loved so lets make this baby girl sick so it forever needs you. And thats what i think is from. You know a lot of people see this and just wonder why. Why didnt you say anything. I know. I beat myself up about that all the time, but i have to understand my mind frame back then. I was always so afraid of her. Afraid of the consequences after. Next, gypsy in court, where the consequence could be life behind bars. The knife used in the homicide was found in nicholas home. And what about that boyfriend . Whats he got to say for himself and to gypsy tonight . His first interview ever when 20 20 returns. Reporter this is their only selfie together. Gypsy blanchard dressed as cinderella. Nick godejohn her prince charming. But their happily ever after, may never come true. The once loving couple now at odds and facing the possibility of life behind bars for the murder of gypsys mother Dee Dee Blanchard. Theres a big difference between someone who asks someone to kill someone and someone that actually does it. Is there . I think so because i would never kill somebody. I would never physically go through with killing somebody. I cant. My codefendant was putting my name out there in a bad light. Reporter thats nick himself, speaking to me via videoconference from jail. Its the first time hes ever spoken publically. Describe for me what gypsys role was and what your role was in the murder of dee dee. She was basically the mastermind behind it all. I was basically a hired hit man. In its own weird sense. Do you still love gypsy . The reason why i did do this is because i was so deeply in love with gypsy at the time. I still do love her. How do you feel about nick now . If you would have asked me that a, two years ago, i would have said, im still in love with him. But now, i dont hate him. I feel sorry for him. Why do you think he did it . He was very much like my mother. In certain ways. Both of them were very controlling. I feel like i was trained my whole life to do what i was told. We begin with breaking news this morning. Gypsy blanchard has pleaded guilty to her role in a plot to kill her mother. In a courtroom stunner prosecutors cut gypsy a deal. How do you plead to the class a felony of murder . Guilty. Sentenced to 10 years in a Missouri Department of corrections. Gypsys mother was holding her a prisoner. Gypsys mother did not allow her to spend any time alone with any other human being. Youre actually a prisoner now. How do the two compare . In some ways the same. But now im so much more freer. The prison that i was living in before with my mom was like i couldnt walk, i couldnt eat. I couldnt have friends. Over here i feel like im freer in prison than with living with my mom because now im allowed to just live like a normal woman. Prison isnt normal. No. Not for most. But for me it is. What do you think he would want to say to you . I dont think it would be anything nice. All i could hope is that from wherever she is that she still loves me in some small way. And i want her to know that i am sorry. Im so sorry. So many thorny issues to consider. So what do you think between gypsy and dee dee, who was the bigger villain . Let us know on facebook and twitter. Gypsy could be released from early as 2024 pending good behavior. Nick has pleaded not guilty and scheduled to go to trial in the fall. Many celebrities who donated money say they were duped. And thats our program for tonight. Im elizabeth vargas. And im david muir. 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